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		<title>3 Days War</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Undo revision 21750 by Aviv (talk)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Sources}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Reddit-Discord Conflict&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a digital siege which occurred between April 1 - April 3 of 2023. This internet conflict took place between two Larson-oriented communities, the Daniel Larson Subreddit [[r/Daniellarson]] and the Discord known as &amp;quot;[[Daniel Larson QnA]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Numerous viewpoints have been offered on the subject, with some Larsonian scholars calling it the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Larson Civil War&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==Conflicting Viewpoints==&lt;br /&gt;
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===r/Daniellarson===&lt;br /&gt;
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The subreddit r/Daniellarson viewed the Discord server and [[management]] as the [[Gatekeeping|gatekeepers]] and worst [[manipulators]] of [[Daniel Larson]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/aW9rg&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The managers, who maintained control over Daniels whereabouts, activities, and interactions with the community, would begin to host QnA sessions on discord where users would be forced to donate an amount of $5-$20 to ask Daniel Larson a question. Any questions that were perceived as troll questions were removed without refunds, and were often seen as unfair.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/czu7z&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users became extremely frustrated and outraged with this new management, them alleging that Daniel was being limited in his content creation and that he was being enabled to make money on the platform. Reddit users suspected that Daniel would not return to TikTok and other social platforms as long as he was being managed and enabled by the Discord server, with the logic being that Daniel Larson was known to take the path of least resistance, and viewed the Discord as a new and easier way to gain donations with the help of his managers, most notably being his head manager [[IWishIHadADad]], who was a confirmed child abuser. Reddit users decided it was their time to take action and liberate Daniel from his new management.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/j7kkA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Daniel Larson QnA===&lt;br /&gt;
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The managers of Daniel Larson QnA viewed the discord as a way of making new Daniel Larson content and the subreddit as a bunch of trolls who wanted to hold Daniel back.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1299v75/daniel_larson_addressing_his_relationship_with/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Discord server, as its name states, hosted QnA sessions where the owner of the server would allow people to pay them to ask Daniel questions, with a revenue split between him and Daniel, this was often seen as an exploitation of Daniel&#039;s mental illnesses. Even though the managers never claimed to be [[gatekeeping]] Daniel Larson, the Reddit claims they fully understood that they had full control over Daniel and information pertaining to him.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129r55z/daniel_larson_rage_quits_after_no_one_was/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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They would spark controversy and infamy as there were claims that they started to work together to ensure that Daniel solely contacted them and that they were the keyholders to anything and everything about Daniel. Although the managers of Daniel would say that they were not seeking clout and or control of Daniel, it was clearly evident that IWishIHadADad had plans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/cFGNk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Driven by his need to be directly in contact with Daniel and their desire to have power over the situation, they intended to counter the subreddit&#039;s desire for Daniel content and tried to keep Daniel under their wing. This plan would ultimately fail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129yt52/daniel_larson_addressing_the_use_of_the_self/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==April 1 / Unrest on the Horizon==&lt;br /&gt;
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April 1st marked the first day in which Daniel Larson QnA began operating.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the night of April 1st we see the server host its first QnA event, where Daniel is brought onto the Discord stage to answer questions from fans. Little to nothing happens during these types of events. In most cases Daniel would get cold feet and leave the stage time and time again after receiving questions that he perceived would dox his location, or when Daniel was in situations that would overstimulate him. &lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel would continue with his regular antics, using the discord server to tag @everyone constantly and plugging his [[cashapp]], to the point the admins would take it away from him. He also would use the chat to say ridiculous and random things throughout the servers existence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although most of what came out of the Discord QnA server was a huge nothing burger, there were a few notable events.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Fake Plane Ticket&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Faketicketsent.png|200px|thumb|left|Fake ticket sent by management]]&lt;br /&gt;
On April 1st, users and management attempted to send Daniel a fake plane ticket in hopes that Daniel would arrive to Houston International Airport and go into an airport meltdown.&lt;br /&gt;
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Three fake tickets were created, with one of the tickets being an &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; poorly faked ticket, edited within what seemed to be snapchat. A discord user by the name of Clowny aided the server in creating two other tickets that seemed extremely realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
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The management, in a dash of extreme incompetence, decided to send Daniel the poorly faked original ticket. Daniel immediately knew that the ticket was fake, resulting in the plan failing entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Tina &amp;amp; Olivia Vanderwaal&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two trolls by the fake names of Tina and Olivia Vanderwaal worked to trick Daniel into thinking that he was having a conversation with the real members of the [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaal family]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Although Daniel was convinced that Olivia Vanderwaal was real, he had his doubts about the authenticity of the Tina Vanderwaal troll, who threw Daniel into a paranoid episode resulting in his exit from the stage. Olivia was able to convince Daniel that she had a fondness for Daniel, and that Daniel should consider a three-way with him, Grace, and Olivia.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Questionable Daniel Comments&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Although Daniel would mostly write nonsense into the general chat of the server, Daniel sent a few questionable comments into the general chats of the Discord QnA server. Two of the most notable comments being:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;You can have protected sex with guardian permission in Florida.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Me and Grace are having sex tonight.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;Enabled by the server to feed his delusions, Daniel convinced himself once more that his relationship with Grace was real and legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Operation Liberate Larson ==&lt;br /&gt;
Many reddit users became immediately upset with the entire situation understanding that this new management was up to absolutely no good. Reddit, in cooperation with other smaller lolcow subreddits, began initiating their first attack against the QnA server known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Operation Liberate Larson&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The plan was simple, find any way to report the Discord server to Discord Trust &amp;amp; Safety in hopes that the Discord server would be taken down for not enforcing punishments against users who were not abiding by Discords&#039; Terms of Service. According to sources, over 50 reports were confirmed to have been made to Discord through their website portal.&lt;br /&gt;
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This entire plan was based on the fact that Discord had recently changed its TOS, enforcing rules and violations on more servers and users in an ironfist fashion. Although this ultimately failed in taking down the server, it was confirmed by third party sources that over 15 users of the QnA server received account bans as a result of the reports.&lt;br /&gt;
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===FTC Debacle===&lt;br /&gt;
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It was discovered that the Daniel Larson QnA server was holding a raffle for Daniels&#039; famous [[scabies]] jacket he had during the [[Homeless Arc|homeless arc]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The discord server was selling 10 raffle tickets for $3.00 using Discord&#039;s subscription feature to sell the tickets. It is unknown how many subscriptions were purchased, but it was estimated that 5-10 subscriptions were purchased, resulting in an income of at least $30 through the Discord. Although the raffle was unsuccessful, redditors who were working to take down the server understood that the QnA server was in direct violation of federal law in regards to raffles and prizes enforced by the Federal Trade Commission.&lt;br /&gt;
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The server had no way of obtaining the jacket, had no ownership of the jacket, and had no plan of actual sending the jacket to the supposed &amp;quot;raffle winner&amp;quot;. Although the raffle inevitably never took place, the money was taken by the owner of the server [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users planned to report the owner and the server to the FTC if the raffle officially went through for fraud and a fake prize.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Uprising===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Untitled-1.png|200px|thumb|right|Reddit Rise]]&lt;br /&gt;
Redditors began to post to the subreddit sharing their disgust and hate for the new management, including propaganda being created to inspire redditors to take action collectively against the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
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This plan worked, as almost the entire community reddit began to work together to begin to topple imbalance of power. This marked the first day of the uprising and the beginning of the conflict, as the subreddit, Daniel Larson World discord server, and other small subreddits began to join forces to attack the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
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== April 2 / Dox Conflict / The Plane ==&lt;br /&gt;
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April 2nd marks the first day in which personal information about manager [[IWishIHadADad]] began to be released.&lt;br /&gt;
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Originally doxxed by a user of the Daniel Larson World Discord, information about the manager began to become widespread information. This attack exposed the manager as a money begging serial Twitter user, a father, and other personal information. &lt;br /&gt;
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As a result of this information being released, the manager began to get cold feet, saying on a stage press conference that he &amp;quot;may be leaving for a little bit&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Only a few minutes later he would retract this statement by stating &amp;quot;they want to scare me, I am going nowhere&amp;quot;. This would ultimately be his worst mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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Behind the scenes, an army of information gathering trolls began to gain the information of other admins should this information need to be released. This included the information of administrator Zen98. Although this information was never released, it is confirmed that their information was on hold and to be used if future plans were not to work.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Plane===&lt;br /&gt;
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Coordinated by manager [[IWishIHadADad]], Daniel sent $115 to the Cashapp of his manager. It was at this time that the manager purchased the ticket for Daniel using Daniels&#039; money from donations to purchase a planet ticket from Houston to Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
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This ticket purchase was confirmed to be real, Daniel’s manager also confirming in front of an audience of 300+ that Daniel also gave [[IWishIHadADad]] his debit card information, his email, and other financial details to purchase the ticket, even though they had only known each other for two days.&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users became outraged that this manager was enabling, coddling, and supporting a pedophile. This enraged the reddit and other discord users more, enabling the community to attack much harder.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was at this point that the resistance against the management became organized. Although a few discord users supported the purchase of the ticket, a large percentage of users did not agree with the situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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== April 3 / The Nuclear Dox / The Final Push / Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On April 3rd, Daniel was at Houston International Airport awaiting his flight. It was on this day that a Daniel Larson World discord user discovered the criminal history of [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The criminal history included child abuse charges with the detail of &amp;quot;great bodily injury&amp;quot;, which in legal terms, explains that the injury to the child was extremely vicious and potentially life threatening. IWish admitted to his child abusing past with no remorse, joking about the child abuse. He went on to say that there is &amp;quot;no reason to explain himself to internet trolls&amp;quot;, using his &amp;quot;baby momma&amp;quot;  and his use of Xanax as excuses. It was made evidently clear that IWish did not care about his children, family, or really himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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This information became widespread and spread like wildfire to the reddit. By the end of the day almost every subreddit user understood what IWish was really about, and understood his dark past. &lt;br /&gt;
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Warned by others before, IWish was not prepared for what would happen to him during his new management &amp;quot;career&amp;quot;. This is the first time in management history that a manager has been exposed for such heinous and horrible charges, and the first time that a manager has been researched to such an extent.&lt;br /&gt;
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With skeletons in his closet, IWish became debatably one of the most hated figures in Daniel Larson lore history, akin to [[Ox]] and [[Flexburger]]. Some users describe IWishes&#039; dox and exposure much worse and eventful that Oxes and Flexburgers ever was. Guided by ignorance and selfishness, IWish drove himself directly into a brick wall.&lt;br /&gt;
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Towards the end of April 3, the Discord server was deleted with an astounding Reddit victory. The deletion was due to the owner finally realizing the position he had put himself in, becoming an extremely hated figure and being ridiculed by hundreds for his horrible child beating past.&lt;br /&gt;
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It has been proven that IWish still has some contact with Daniel as of April 4 2023, but considering Daniel has returned to Tiktok and began begging for donations once more, order within the community has finally been restored.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On April 3rd, Daniel was convinced by trolls in the server, before its deletion, that the Vanderwaal family would be waiting to pickup Daniel after he had landed in Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was most notably performed by the Olivia and Dave Vanderwaal trolls on the QnA stage. During this QnA, they discuss paparazzi, Tina being in disguise holding a sign with a codeword, and planning what Daniel will do with the Vanderwaal family in New York City. Daniel falls for this and makes his way to New York anticipating the Vanderwaals. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Notable Reddit Resistance Figures / &amp;quot;Larson Purists&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Clowny&lt;br /&gt;
* JustinJust-In&lt;br /&gt;
* u/cumfart6_&lt;br /&gt;
* u/Astro&lt;br /&gt;
* u/HairyPussyQueefs&lt;br /&gt;
* Bobbybacala&lt;br /&gt;
* Alex Jones&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notable QnA Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[IWishIHadADad]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Zen98&lt;br /&gt;
* Detah&lt;br /&gt;
* PassiveObserver&lt;br /&gt;
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== Refrences ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Musical Endeavors of Daniel Larson to Musical endeavors of Daniel Larson&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;This article discusses Daniel&#039;s music career as a whole. For his music releases, see [[Discography]].&#039;&#039;{{Sources}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Something More cover.png|thumb|Cover for Something More.]]&lt;br /&gt;
One of [[Daniel Larson|Daniel&#039;s]] most pursued life-long aspirations (and delusions) is to become a world-famous singer. With the help of his mentor, [[Bob Proctor]], and occasionally [[Management|others]], Daniel has been able to produce multiple songs, although most of his [[discography]] has not been officially released. As of 2024, Daniel has published three official songs: &#039;&#039;[[Roaring Thunder]]&#039;&#039; (2021)&#039;&#039;, [[Something More]]&#039;&#039; (2022) and &#039;&#039;[[Merry Go Round]]&#039;&#039; (2023). &lt;br /&gt;
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The release of his music doesn&#039;t come without controversy, as it is believed that Daniel (or rather, Bob) simply buy the rights to a pre-existing song, providing nothing original except for vocals. It is also speculated that Daniel has not truly written any of the lyrics to his songs, given his limited vocabulary, which is most likely true given that most of Daniel&#039;s non-studio recorded songs are made by [[Management|managers]] who tell him what to say over a beat. The truth behind these allegations cannot be confirmed at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Daniel, it takes approximately two to four days to produce one song. The high cost of music production, in combination with his financial instability and [[Homeless Era|housing crisis]], has limited the amount of songs he&#039;s been able to create. From July 2021 to July 2022, Daniel claims to have made $400 from the song Roaring Thunder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&amp;amp;v=BnHMIG-xbyQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel has claimed multiple times that he is a world-famous singer, claiming in an [[Monkeyman Interview|interview with Monkeyman]] that he had 800 million to 1.2 billion fans of his music, although being obviously untrue, because if it were true, it would mean that 10% of the world&#039;s population would know who Daniel is, when they obviously don&#039;t. According to an interview with [[Luke]], Daniel genuinely believes he is a world-famous singer, mostly because he is regularly recognized in Denver. Luke says Daniel does not understand that he is infamous and no one genuinely likes his music, mainly due to his [[delusions]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DanielTheater.png|thumb|248x248px|Daniel seemed to be a passionate theater kid. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel&#039;s interest in music can be tracked back to his childhood. In his childhood, Daniel would be enrolled in several [[Musical Theater|musical theater productions]]. It in unclear who put him in these programs, but it is likely that his grandmother did, as she was the one who held custody over him during this time. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is also worth noting that his mother, [[Elisabeth Shimer]], had a keen interest in music. On her YouTube channel, she would share and post several covers of music. And just like her son, she shared delusions of having fans, although these delusions do not appear to be as severe as Daniel&#039;s. It is highly likely that this may have rubbed off on Daniel, as Elisabeth seemed to have an intense wants to be famous and have fans, going as far as attending photoshoots as if she was a real celebrity. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Musical Talent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Songwriting ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Unreleased lyrics.png|left|thumb|606x606px|Daniel shows off his songwriting prowess to an unknown individual.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In Daniel&#039;s CV, he mentions receiving voice lessons from someone named &amp;quot;Dulcimer,&amp;quot; although it is unclear who that is.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[:File:DanielMusicalPaper.png]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Most, if not all, of Daniel&#039;s songwriting output has been him singing over lyrics that are, more often than not, not written by him. Before any of his official musical releases, most of Daniel&#039;s songs were written by Daniel himself and with most help coming from [[Management|managers]], although their quality easily falls flat compared to his studio recorded songs. Daniel has written only a few truly original songs, but the results are riddled with multiple issues. &lt;br /&gt;
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Most of Daniel&#039;s lyrics appear to be somewhat autobiographical. The lyrics of &#039;&#039;Something More&#039;&#039; showed, although small, insight on Daniel&#039;s thought processes and struggles with schizophrenia, with its most quoted lyric being &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I&#039;m surrounded by people I don&#039;t see&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;. In his song, &#039;&#039;[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIBaMTLODM Grace and I Freestyle],&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIBaMTLODM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Daniel sings about his desire to date [[Grace VanderWaal]] and have sex with her even though at the time of release, she was still a [[Pedophilia|minor]]. This song very well aligns with his unbridled lust for her, and funnily enough, the most repeated lyric is &amp;quot;sex&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Secondly, Daniel shows an inability to understand the mood or context of songs. A good songwriter uses lyrics that reflect the music and paint an emotional picture, which Daniel is incapable of. This is most notably shown in Daniel&#039;s song, &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjmFJNj3DY Work],&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjmFJNj3DY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; where its themes are seemingly all over the place, switching from being a partial cover of &#039;&#039;Work&#039;&#039; by Rihanna, before abruptly switching to sexual innuendos and asking the listener to twerk. &lt;br /&gt;
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As talked about before, Daniel has a problem with repetition. In his song, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcA-kXaTt88 &#039;&#039;I Love Peanuts&#039;&#039;], the aforementioned phrase is repeated multiple times, lyrics barely ever changing. This is also shown in the song &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8Z65vfuXI STD Soaps],&#039;&#039; wherein Daniel repeats the phrase &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I got the STD soaps, that&#039;s why we&#039;re cleaning, that&#039;s why we&#039;re shovin&#039;, that&#039;s why we&#039;re coking up&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;. Lastly, in the song &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaP9-M57yRs Birthday Boy],&#039;&#039; Daniel repeats the lyrics &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I&#039;m a birthday boy, I&#039;m just working all day, and working all night&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;, (which is quite ironic as Daniel has not worked a day in his life) along with the lyrics &amp;quot;It&#039;s the start of my birthday celebration&amp;quot;. This would be fine if the instrumentals Daniels &amp;quot;sang&amp;quot; over weren&#039;t so repetitive, and if he actually changed up the lyrics once in a while.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even more, Daniel&#039;s attempts at figurative language fall flat. In &#039;&#039;[[Gang Life]],&#039;&#039; he boldly states &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;The bitch fell in love with me, pull her like a lasso, I nut on her face, turn that shit into a Picasso&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;. In &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UD9LpkxHbw Running From My Past],&#039;&#039; Daniel sings, &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;All the sins that move against me, move past, moving past&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I carry it up, like a past that I just forgot, and I carry you, like a weight on my jeans&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; which really begs the question as to what any of this means.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for Daniel&#039;s other songs, they are mostly him covering already existing songs, although Daniel insists that these are serious compositions and never once implies that the lyrics are in no way written by him. Most notably, Daniel&#039;s cover of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fKcf0BpwNY Wild Hearts] by [https://www.youtube.com/@KeithUrbanVEVO Keith Urban] (which was subsequently leaked by [[Flexburger]]), and his cover of [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q8AL01H5sJk Sex with Me]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q8AL01H5sJk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; by Rihanna, although the only notable change are the backing tracks/instrumentals. &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Singing ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel has a poor grasp on singing, which should be obvious given how much autotune and voice adjustment is used in his professionally recorded songs. Daniel, because of his delusions, has convinced himself that he is, in fact, a great singer who does not need any improvement in the field. &lt;br /&gt;
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His voice is unusually high-pitched, and often extremely quiet. He also speaks with rarely any emotion, almost always monotone. These issues with his voice show in full force whenever Daniel attempts to sing. In his song, &#039;&#039;I Love Peanuts&#039;&#039;, Daniel does not &amp;quot;sing&amp;quot; so much as yell over the track. At other times, Daniel&#039;s emotionless voice pulls back from the tempo and nature of the song. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is telling that not only does Daniel lack any sense of pitch in singing, but with melodies in general. This is evidenced in his cover of &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqtKRLVe2jQ Old Town Road]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqtKRLVe2jQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; by Lil Nas X, where he (all but barely) tries to sing to the melody of it, but ends up with a wildly unrecognizable tune that only vaguely resembles the original song, which is only due to the backing track. And not even a minute in, Daniel completely abandons the original lyrics and begins singing about completely unrelated things.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Daniel attempts to do a cappella, his voice is severely out of tune and barely matches the melody he wants. Daniel has trouble with tempo and entries, often pushing ahead or pulls back from the tempo of the song, making the whole musical composition fall apart. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Recording Method and Equipment ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Recording studio booking.png|thumb|Daniel, announcing that he&#039;ll be booking another recording studio session.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel&#039;s idea of making music is going to a recording studio in person and recording there, often deluded by ideas that he is a famous singer-songwriter, therefore he deserves to sing in a recording studio. This is odd, considering the huge losses in profit that come from it. More money (that [[Bob Proctor]] is spending, by the way) is spent booking and paying for these appointments than money earned from sales of Daniel&#039;s songs, which Daniel does not seem to understand at all, demanding this setup apart from others. Daniel is seemingly unaware of the incredible leaps and bounds that music recording has advanced and hasn&#039;t noticed that there are plenty of good multitrack sound editors available for free, and that going to a recording studio in person is not at all necessary. &lt;br /&gt;
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Even when Daniel does not record his music in a studio, the quality is abysmal as Daniel uses his phone (which are often cheap models for less than 200 dollars) to record himself singing, even though it&#039;s extremely easy to record and make music on your phone. &lt;br /&gt;
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There is always a huge quality loss when Daniel attempts to record on his phone, the audio being extremely hard to hear, most notably seen in &#039;&#039;Running from my Past,&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;:0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UD9LpkxHbw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; where Daniel is barely audible. The sound mixing on these songs could also use some work, as at most times, the instrumentals and backing tracks are always louder than Daniel&#039;s own voice.&lt;br /&gt;
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== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Music}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Daniel]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Talk:Enablers&amp;diff=21742</id>
		<title>Talk:Enablers</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Talk:Enablers&amp;diff=21742"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:12:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Talk:Enablers to Talk:Daniel Larson and enabling&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hi!&lt;br /&gt;
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I was reading this page after browsing via the random page link until I stumbled across the sections labeled &amp;quot;Others&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Sources&amp;quot;, to which I find have been left empty since June of this year. I find this to be rather problematic since the page I&#039;m writing about for is relying purely on screenshots as sources.&lt;br /&gt;
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Best regards,&lt;br /&gt;
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anon&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Enablers&amp;diff=21740</id>
		<title>Enablers</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Enablers&amp;diff=21740"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:12:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Enablers to Daniel Larson and enabling&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|If you&#039;re mentioned on this page, you&#039;re here for a reason. Regardless of what your intent is, do not give Daniel your money or do any of the actions listed below. They will not serve you in the long run.}}{{Quote|Daniel Larson is a bright and empathetic young man.|[[Michael Quinn]] [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/16r6oyf/daniel_larson_is_a_bright_and_empathetic_young/]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Enablers&#039;&#039;&#039; (sometimes called &#039;&#039;&#039;pedo-pals&#039;&#039;&#039;) are, by definition,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/enabler&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; people who encourage [[Daniel Larson|Daniel’s]] negative behavior and self-destructive habits by providing excuses or by making it possible to avoid the consequences of his behavior. It&#039;s important to note that there is a distinction to people who just assist him (EG [[Case Managers]]) and people who support him to continue his habits. Enablers are some of the most influential people in the [[Daniel Larson]] story, as it definitely would not have reached the state it is in now without enabling from a variety of people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Enablers of Daniel can be divided into three main classes: the first being &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Daniel Larson&#039;s Finances|financial]] enablers&#039;&#039;&#039;, who, for some reason, throw money at Daniel without a second thought, the second being &#039;&#039;&#039;delusion enablers&#039;&#039;&#039;, who endorse Daniel’s grandiose [[delusions]] of being a celebrity, and the third being &#039;&#039;&#039;behavior enablers,&#039;&#039;&#039; who vehemently defend Daniel despite proof of wrongdoing. Trolls are often delusion enablers and, in fact, often stoke his delusions.&lt;br /&gt;
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== History of Enabling ==&lt;br /&gt;
During Daniel&#039;s childhood, it can be argued that his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer|Nancy]], was his first known enabler. This is corroborated by a call made to Daniel&#039;s father, Travis Larson, wherein it was revealed that during an instant in Daniel&#039;s childhood where he colored on the walls, instead of being punished, he was instead rewarded with candy by his grandmother.{{Citation Needed}} &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s highly likely that Daniel&#039;s grandmother enabled his negative behavior, making him believe that his negative actions would be rewarded, however, it&#039;s worth noting that there is nothing proving these claims besides word of mouth, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Financial enablers ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|To be good to the vile is to throw water into the sea.|u/felixdemontemar[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17ixp1k/comment/k6xrprp/?utm_source=share&amp;amp;utm_medium=mweb3x&amp;amp;utm_name=mweb3xcss&amp;amp;utm_term=1&amp;amp;utm_content=share_button]}}&lt;br /&gt;
Though his situation is [[Homeless Arc|dire]], Daniel remains irresponsible with money. Despite this, financial enablers continue to try to win Daniel over, that being through his wallet. Providing him with the money he regularly requests, whether through constantly donating him money through his TikTok lives (that he doesn&#039;t know how to cash out, mind you). Over the years, Daniel has accrued thousands of dollars from his beloved fans through the form of &amp;quot;donations,&amp;quot; overpriced, shoddy videos on Cameo, and through others help.&lt;br /&gt;
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The issue with financial enabling is that it reinforces Daniel&#039;s idea that he is a celebrity, and keeps his constant notion of not wanting to work healthy&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Bob ===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Bob Proctor]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Bob has been known to give Daniel money, including paying for hotel rooms, but Bob cut all ties with Daniel in Decrmber 2023.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Cameo ===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Main Article: [[Cameo Arc]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Delusion enablers ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Delusions|Daniel&#039;s grip on what is real]] and what is not was never very good to begin with, and has undoubtedly worsened after years of being a well-known target of manipulation and trolling on the internet. Enablers exploit this fact by presenting Daniel with their own invented information about things in his life, or things he desires, such as his nonexistent connections with the [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaal]] family, or that he is truly a [[Music Career|celebrity]] with millions of fans. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Behavior enablers ==&lt;br /&gt;
Behavior enabling is probably the most common form of enabling and the easiest to fall into, where people either let Daniel&#039;s behavior slide (because of factors such as his mental illnesses, or child), or even encourage it. This is mostly exhibited by people who know next to nothing about Daniel, or trolls who wish to cause another incident.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Papa Gut ===&lt;br /&gt;
Main article: [[Papa Gut]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Ox ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Establishments==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Law enforcement===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(see [[Daniel&#039;s Criminal History]])&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Law enforcement enables Daniel in a less direct way. Daniel should obviously be committed to some sort of asylum or mental hospital for an extended period of time, but instead, time and time again, he&#039;s only given fines for his awful and repeated behavior. Cases are often dropped or ignored, and Daniel has never faced serious criminal punishments for his pedophilia or any other crimes he has committed.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Businesses===&lt;br /&gt;
Businesses, instead of pressing charges for Daniel&#039;s blatant and serial theft in the form of [[Dine and dashes|Dine and Dashing]], let him off with a ban despite him being blacklisted from a majority of restaurants.&lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily, the [[Las Vegas Arc|casinos seem to be much less nice to him]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ox/Oxis ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Ox]] is probably the most prominent enabler, being notorious for financially enabling Daniel, excusing his pedophilia and behavior with the mental illness excuse, and defending Daniel from seemingly every and all criticism. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Papa Gut==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Papa Gut]] is prominent enabler and defender of Daniel Larson.&lt;br /&gt;
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He constantly defends Daniel&#039;s poor behavior and has even gone as far as defending his pedophilia by using the excuse of mental illness and manipulation, despite him going out on his own volition to stalk [[Grace VanderWaal]] and message minors and him displaying on multiple occasions that he knows it&#039;s wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also uses the weak and somewhat worrying excuses of “They set him up because it was trolls pretending to be 14, not real 14 year olds!” and &amp;quot;Muh wife is a behavioral specialist! Therefore I&#039;m right!&amp;quot;. More can be found in his various YouTube videos about Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;youtube&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGBhUWy9EWA&amp;amp;ab_channel=PapaGut&amp;lt;/youtube&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(someone archive this and re-link it, please)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other enablers==&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Gatekeeping&amp;diff=21738</id>
		<title>Gatekeeping</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Gatekeeping&amp;diff=21738"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:12:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Gatekeeping to Gatekeeping Within the Larsonian Community&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Gatekeeping is defined as &amp;quot;the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something&amp;quot;. Daniel Larson&#039;s trolls/managers are well-known for this act, especially today. The reasoning behind gatekeeping often can vary, but within the context of the Daniel Larson community, information is often gatekept as a way to make things secret. Due to the rampant doxxing of individuals within the Daniel Larson community by other trolls and rival management teams, gatekeeping has become a way to put the individuals behind the management of Daniel in secrecy as to protect their privacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of gatekeeping ==&lt;br /&gt;
Lost media that gets leaked of Daniel has often been considered to be media that was originally gatekept. Some examples such as [[The Flexburger Leaks]] and the [[The 7/11 Incident]] are considered to be instances of private media that was not uncovered until later through leaks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Such individuals who have been known to gatekeep are&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Clark]], with his phone conversations with Daniel along with text logs, as demonstrated through [[November 1st - November 13th DLTFM Logs|these leaks]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Dylan Clark]], or Blark&lt;br /&gt;
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[[LBI Entertainment]], creating fake meetups and footage around the Olive Garden Incident&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Warren]], by not encouraging Daniel to go live to seal his location.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Quacko]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[IWishIHadADad]], who was known for charging money for questions asked to Daniel, resulting in a [[3 Days War|war]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Talk:3_Days_War&amp;diff=21737</id>
		<title>Talk:3 Days War</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Talk:3_Days_War&amp;diff=21737"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:11:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Blanked the page&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=3_Days_War&amp;diff=21736</id>
		<title>3 Days War</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=3_Days_War&amp;diff=21736"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:11:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Sources}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Reddit-Discord Conflict&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a digital siege which occurred between April 1 - April 3 of 2023. This internet conflict took place between two Larson-oriented communities, the Daniel Larson Subreddit [[r/Daniellarson]] and the Discord known as &amp;quot;[[Daniel Larson QnA]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Numerous viewpoints have been offered on the subject, with some Larsonian scholars calling it the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Larson Civil War&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==Conflicting Viewpoints==&lt;br /&gt;
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===r/Daniellarson===&lt;br /&gt;
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The subreddit r/Daniellarson viewed the Discord server and [[management]] as the [[Gatekeeping|gatekeepers]] and worst [[manipulators]] of [[Daniel Larson]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/aW9rg&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The managers, who maintained control over Daniels whereabouts, activities, and interactions with the community, would begin to host QnA sessions on discord where users would be forced to donate an amount of $5-$20 to ask Daniel Larson a question. Any questions that were perceived as troll questions were removed without refunds, and were often seen as unfair.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/czu7z&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users became extremely frustrated and outraged with this new management, them alleging that Daniel was being limited in his content creation and that he was being enabled to make money on the platform. Reddit users suspected that Daniel would not return to TikTok and other social platforms as long as he was being managed and enabled by the Discord server, with the logic being that Daniel Larson was known to take the path of least resistance, and viewed the Discord as a new and easier way to gain donations with the help of his managers, most notably being his head manager [[IWishIHadADad]], who was a confirmed child abuser. Reddit users decided it was their time to take action and liberate Daniel from his new management.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/j7kkA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Daniel Larson QnA===&lt;br /&gt;
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The managers of Daniel Larson QnA viewed the discord as a way of making new Daniel Larson content and the subreddit as a bunch of trolls who wanted to hold Daniel back.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1299v75/daniel_larson_addressing_his_relationship_with/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Discord server, as its name states, hosted QnA sessions where the owner of the server would allow people to pay them to ask Daniel questions, with a revenue split between him and Daniel, this was often seen as an exploitation of Daniel&#039;s mental illnesses. Even though the managers never claimed to be [[gatekeeping]] Daniel Larson, the Reddit claims they fully understood that they had full control over Daniel and information pertaining to him.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129r55z/daniel_larson_rage_quits_after_no_one_was/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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They would spark controversy and infamy as there were claims that they started to work together to ensure that Daniel solely contacted them and that they were the keyholders to anything and everything about Daniel. Although the managers of Daniel would say that they were not seeking clout and or control of Daniel, it was clearly evident that IWishIHadADad had plans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/cFGNk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Driven by his need to be directly in contact with Daniel and their desire to have power over the situation, they intended to counter the subreddit&#039;s desire for Daniel content and tried to keep Daniel under their wing. This plan would ultimately fail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129yt52/daniel_larson_addressing_the_use_of_the_self/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==April 1 / Unrest on the Horizon==&lt;br /&gt;
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April 1st marked the first day in which Daniel Larson QnA began operating.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the night of April 1st we see the server host its first QnA event, where Daniel is brought onto the Discord stage to answer questions from fans. Little to nothing happens during these types of events. In most cases Daniel would get cold feet and leave the stage time and time again after receiving questions that he perceived would dox his location, or when Daniel was in situations that would overstimulate him. &lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel would continue with his regular antics, using the discord server to tag @everyone constantly and plugging his [[cashapp]], to the point the admins would take it away from him. He also would use the chat to say ridiculous and random things throughout the servers existence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although most of what came out of the Discord QnA server was a huge nothing burger, there were a few notable events.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Fake Plane Ticket&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Faketicketsent.png|200px|thumb|left|Fake ticket sent by management]]&lt;br /&gt;
On April 1st, users and management attempted to send Daniel a fake plane ticket in hopes that Daniel would arrive to Houston International Airport and go into an airport meltdown.&lt;br /&gt;
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Three fake tickets were created, with one of the tickets being an &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; poorly faked ticket, edited within what seemed to be snapchat. A discord user by the name of Clowny aided the server in creating two other tickets that seemed extremely realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
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The management, in a dash of extreme incompetence, decided to send Daniel the poorly faked original ticket. Daniel immediately knew that the ticket was fake, resulting in the plan failing entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Tina &amp;amp; Olivia Vanderwaal&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two trolls by the fake names of Tina and Olivia Vanderwaal worked to trick Daniel into thinking that he was having a conversation with the real members of the [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaal family]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Although Daniel was convinced that Olivia Vanderwaal was real, he had his doubts about the authenticity of the Tina Vanderwaal troll, who threw Daniel into a paranoid episode resulting in his exit from the stage. Olivia was able to convince Daniel that she had a fondness for Daniel, and that Daniel should consider a three-way with him, Grace, and Olivia.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Questionable Daniel Comments&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Although Daniel would mostly write nonsense into the general chat of the server, Daniel sent a few questionable comments into the general chats of the Discord QnA server. Two of the most notable comments being:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;You can have protected sex with guardian permission in Florida.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Me and Grace are having sex tonight.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;Enabled by the server to feed his delusions, Daniel convinced himself once more that his relationship with Grace was real and legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Operation Liberate Larson ==&lt;br /&gt;
Many reddit users became immediately upset with the entire situation understanding that this new management was up to absolutely no good. Reddit, in cooperation with other smaller lolcow subreddits, began initiating their first attack against the QnA server known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Operation Liberate Larson&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The plan was simple, find any way to report the Discord server to Discord Trust &amp;amp; Safety in hopes that the Discord server would be taken down for not enforcing punishments against users who were not abiding by Discords&#039; Terms of Service. According to sources, over 50 reports were confirmed to have been made to Discord through their website portal.&lt;br /&gt;
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This entire plan was based on the fact that Discord had recently changed its TOS, enforcing rules and violations on more servers and users in an ironfist fashion. Although this ultimately failed in taking down the server, it was confirmed by third party sources that over 15 users of the QnA server received account bans as a result of the reports.&lt;br /&gt;
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===FTC Debacle===&lt;br /&gt;
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It was discovered that the Daniel Larson QnA server was holding a raffle for Daniels&#039; famous [[scabies]] jacket he had during the [[Homeless Arc|homeless arc]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The discord server was selling 10 raffle tickets for $3.00 using Discord&#039;s subscription feature to sell the tickets. It is unknown how many subscriptions were purchased, but it was estimated that 5-10 subscriptions were purchased, resulting in an income of at least $30 through the Discord. Although the raffle was unsuccessful, redditors who were working to take down the server understood that the QnA server was in direct violation of federal law in regards to raffles and prizes enforced by the Federal Trade Commission.&lt;br /&gt;
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The server had no way of obtaining the jacket, had no ownership of the jacket, and had no plan of actual sending the jacket to the supposed &amp;quot;raffle winner&amp;quot;. Although the raffle inevitably never took place, the money was taken by the owner of the server [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users planned to report the owner and the server to the FTC if the raffle officially went through for fraud and a fake prize.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Uprising===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Untitled-1.png|200px|thumb|right|Reddit Rise]]&lt;br /&gt;
Redditors began to post to the subreddit sharing their disgust and hate for the new management, including propaganda being created to inspire redditors to take action collectively against the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This plan worked, as almost the entire community reddit began to work together to begin to topple imbalance of power. This marked the first day of the uprising and the beginning of the conflict, as the subreddit, Daniel Larson World discord server, and other small subreddits began to join forces to attack the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== April 2 / Dox Conflict / The Plane ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
April 2nd marks the first day in which personal information about manager [[IWishIHadADad]] began to be released.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Originally doxxed by a user of the Daniel Larson World Discord, information about the manager began to become widespread information. This attack exposed the manager as a money begging serial Twitter user, a father, and other personal information. &lt;br /&gt;
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As a result of this information being released, the manager began to get cold feet, saying on a stage press conference that he &amp;quot;may be leaving for a little bit&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only a few minutes later he would retract this statement by stating &amp;quot;they want to scare me, I am going nowhere&amp;quot;. This would ultimately be his worst mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Behind the scenes, an army of information gathering trolls began to gain the information of other admins should this information need to be released. This included the information of administrator Zen98. Although this information was never released, it is confirmed that their information was on hold and to be used if future plans were not to work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The Plane===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coordinated by manager [[IWishIHadADad]], Daniel sent $115 to the Cashapp of his manager. It was at this time that the manager purchased the ticket for Daniel using Daniels&#039; money from donations to purchase a planet ticket from Houston to Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This ticket purchase was confirmed to be real, Daniel’s manager also confirming in front of an audience of 300+ that Daniel also gave [[IWishIHadADad]] his debit card information, his email, and other financial details to purchase the ticket, even though they had only known each other for two days.&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users became outraged that this manager was enabling, coddling, and supporting a pedophile. This enraged the reddit and other discord users more, enabling the community to attack much harder.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was at this point that the resistance against the management became organized. Although a few discord users supported the purchase of the ticket, a large percentage of users did not agree with the situation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== April 3 / The Nuclear Dox / The Final Push / Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On April 3rd, Daniel was at Houston International Airport awaiting his flight. It was on this day that a Daniel Larson World discord user discovered the criminal history of [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The criminal history included child abuse charges with the detail of &amp;quot;great bodily injury&amp;quot;, which in legal terms, explains that the injury to the child was extremely vicious and potentially life threatening. IWish admitted to his child abusing past with no remorse, joking about the child abuse. He went on to say that there is &amp;quot;no reason to explain himself to internet trolls&amp;quot;, using his &amp;quot;baby momma&amp;quot;  and his use of Xanax as excuses. It was made evidently clear that IWish did not care about his children, family, or really himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This information became widespread and spread like wildfire to the reddit. By the end of the day almost every subreddit user understood what IWish was really about, and understood his dark past. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warned by others before, IWish was not prepared for what would happen to him during his new management &amp;quot;career&amp;quot;. This is the first time in management history that a manager has been exposed for such heinous and horrible charges, and the first time that a manager has been researched to such an extent.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With skeletons in his closet, IWish became debatably one of the most hated figures in Daniel Larson lore history, akin to [[Ox]] and [[Flexburger]]. Some users describe IWishes&#039; dox and exposure much worse and eventful that Oxes and Flexburgers ever was. Guided by ignorance and selfishness, IWish drove himself directly into a brick wall.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Towards the end of April 3, the Discord server was deleted with an astounding Reddit victory. The deletion was due to the owner finally realizing the position he had put himself in, becoming an extremely hated figure and being ridiculed by hundreds for his horrible child beating past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has been proven that IWish still has some contact with Daniel as of April 4 2023, but considering Daniel has returned to Tiktok and began begging for donations once more, order within the community has finally been restored.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On April 3rd, Daniel was convinced by trolls in the server, before its deletion, that the Vanderwaal family would be waiting to pickup Daniel after he had landed in Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was most notably performed by the Olivia and Dave Vanderwaal trolls on the QnA stage. During this QnA, they discuss paparazzi, Tina being in disguise holding a sign with a codeword, and planning what Daniel will do with the Vanderwaal family in New York City. Daniel falls for this and makes his way to New York anticipating the Vanderwaals. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable Reddit Resistance Figures / &amp;quot;Larson Purists&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Clowny&lt;br /&gt;
* JustinJust-In&lt;br /&gt;
* u/cumfart6_&lt;br /&gt;
* u/Astro&lt;br /&gt;
* u/HairyPussyQueefs&lt;br /&gt;
* Bobbybacala&lt;br /&gt;
* Alex Jones&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable QnA Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IWishIHadADad]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Zen98&lt;br /&gt;
* Detah&lt;br /&gt;
* PassiveObserver&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refrences ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Talk:3_Days_War&amp;diff=21734</id>
		<title>Talk:3 Days War</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Talk:3_Days_War&amp;diff=21734"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:10:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Talk:3 Days War to Talk:Daniel Larson Reddit-Discord Conflict&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I feel like “3 Days War” is a bit much as the discord never really had any counter attacks. I feel like “Revolt of R/Daniellarson” would be a bit more fitting.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=3_Days_War&amp;diff=21732</id>
		<title>3 Days War</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=3_Days_War&amp;diff=21732"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:10:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page 3 Days War to Daniel Larson Reddit-Discord Conflict&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Sources}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Reddit-Discord Conflict&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a digital siege which occurred between April 1 - April 3 of 2023. This internet conflict took place between two Larson-oriented communities, the Daniel Larson Subreddit [[r/Daniellarson]] and the Discord known as &amp;quot;[[Daniel Larson QnA]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Numerous viewpoints have been offered on the subject, with some Larsonian scholars calling it the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Larson Civil War&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==Conflicting Viewpoints==&lt;br /&gt;
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===r/Daniellarson===&lt;br /&gt;
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The subreddit r/Daniellarson viewed the Discord server and [[management]] as the [[Gatekeeping|gatekeepers]] and worst [[manipulators]] of [[Daniel Larson]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/aW9rg&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The managers, who maintained control over Daniels whereabouts, activities, and interactions with the community, would begin to host QnA sessions on discord where users would be forced to donate an amount of $5-$20 to ask Daniel Larson a question. Any questions that were perceived as troll questions were removed without refunds, and were often seen as unfair.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/czu7z&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reddit users became extremely frustrated and outraged with this new management, them alleging that Daniel was being limited in his content creation and that he was being enabled to make money on the platform. Reddit users suspected that Daniel would not return to TikTok and other social platforms as long as he was being managed and enabled by the Discord server, with the logic being that Daniel Larson was known to take the path of least resistance, and viewed the Discord as a new and easier way to gain donations with the help of his managers, most notably being his head manager [[IWishIHadADad]], who was a confirmed child abuser. Reddit users decided it was their time to take action and liberate Daniel from his new management.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/j7kkA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Daniel Larson QnA===&lt;br /&gt;
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The managers of Daniel Larson QnA viewed the discord as a way of making new Daniel Larson content and the subreddit as a bunch of trolls who wanted to hold Daniel back.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1299v75/daniel_larson_addressing_his_relationship_with/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Discord server, as its name states, hosted QnA sessions where the owner of the server would allow people to pay them to ask Daniel questions, with a revenue split between him and Daniel, this was often seen as an exploitation of Daniel&#039;s mental illnesses. Even though the managers never claimed to be [[gatekeeping]] Daniel Larson, the Reddit claims they fully understood that they had full control over Daniel and information pertaining to him.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129r55z/daniel_larson_rage_quits_after_no_one_was/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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They would spark controversy and infamy as there were claims that they started to work together to ensure that Daniel solely contacted them and that they were the keyholders to anything and everything about Daniel. Although the managers of Daniel would say that they were not seeking clout and or control of Daniel, it was clearly evident that IWishIHadADad had plans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/cFGNk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Driven by his need to be directly in contact with Daniel and their desire to have power over the situation, they intended to counter the subreddit&#039;s desire for Daniel content and tried to keep Daniel under their wing. This plan would ultimately fail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129yt52/daniel_larson_addressing_the_use_of_the_self/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==April 1 / Unrest on the Horizon==&lt;br /&gt;
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April 1st marked the first day in which Daniel Larson QnA began operating.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the night of April 1st we see the server host its first QnA event, where Daniel is brought onto the Discord stage to answer questions from fans. Little to nothing happens during these types of events. In most cases Daniel would get cold feet and leave the stage time and time again after receiving questions that he perceived would dox his location, or when Daniel was in situations that would overstimulate him. &lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel would continue with his regular antics, using the discord server to tag @everyone constantly and plugging his [[cashapp]], to the point the admins would take it away from him. He also would use the chat to say ridiculous and random things throughout the servers existence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although most of what came out of the Discord QnA server was a huge nothing burger, there were a few notable events.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Fake Plane Ticket&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Faketicketsent.png|200px|thumb|left|Fake ticket sent by management]]&lt;br /&gt;
On April 1st, users and management attempted to send Daniel a fake plane ticket in hopes that Daniel would arrive to Houston International Airport and go into an airport meltdown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Three fake tickets were created, with one of the tickets being an &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; poorly faked ticket, edited within what seemed to be snapchat. A discord user by the name of Clowny aided the server in creating two other tickets that seemed extremely realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The management, in a dash of extreme incompetence, decided to send Daniel the poorly faked original ticket. Daniel immediately knew that the ticket was fake, resulting in the plan failing entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Tina &amp;amp; Olivia Vanderwaal&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two trolls by the fake names of Tina and Olivia Vanderwaal worked to trick Daniel into thinking that he was having a conversation with the real members of the [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaal family]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although Daniel was convinced that Olivia Vanderwaal was real, he had his doubts about the authenticity of the Tina Vanderwaal troll, who threw Daniel into a paranoid episode resulting in his exit from the stage. Olivia was able to convince Daniel that she had a fondness for Daniel, and that Daniel should consider a three-way with him, Grace, and Olivia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Questionable Daniel Comments&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Although Daniel would mostly write nonsense into the general chat of the server, Daniel sent a few questionable comments into the general chats of the Discord QnA server. Two of the most notable comments being:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;You can have protected sex with guardian permission in Florida.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Me and Grace are having sex tonight.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;Enabled by the server to feed his delusions, Daniel convinced himself once more that his relationship with Grace was real and legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Operation Liberate Larson ==&lt;br /&gt;
Many reddit users became immediately upset with the entire situation understanding that this new management was up to absolutely no good. Reddit, in cooperation with other smaller lolcow subreddits, began initiating their first attack against the QnA server known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Operation Liberate Larson&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The plan was simple, find any way to report the Discord server to Discord Trust &amp;amp; Safety in hopes that the Discord server would be taken down for not enforcing punishments against users who were not abiding by Discords&#039; Terms of Service. According to sources, over 50 reports were confirmed to have been made to Discord through their website portal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This entire plan was based on the fact that Discord had recently changed its TOS, enforcing rules and violations on more servers and users in an ironfist fashion. Although this ultimately failed in taking down the server, it was confirmed by third party sources that over 15 users of the QnA server received account bans as a result of the reports.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FTC Debacle===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was discovered that the Daniel Larson QnA server was holding a raffle for Daniels&#039; famous [[scabies]] jacket he had during the [[Homeless Arc|homeless arc]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The discord server was selling 10 raffle tickets for $3.00 using Discord&#039;s subscription feature to sell the tickets. It is unknown how many subscriptions were purchased, but it was estimated that 5-10 subscriptions were purchased, resulting in an income of at least $30 through the Discord. Although the raffle was unsuccessful, redditors who were working to take down the server understood that the QnA server was in direct violation of federal law in regards to raffles and prizes enforced by the Federal Trade Commission.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The server had no way of obtaining the jacket, had no ownership of the jacket, and had no plan of actual sending the jacket to the supposed &amp;quot;raffle winner&amp;quot;. Although the raffle inevitably never took place, the money was taken by the owner of the server [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users planned to report the owner and the server to the FTC if the raffle officially went through for fraud and a fake prize.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Uprising===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Untitled-1.png|200px|thumb|right|Reddit Rise]]&lt;br /&gt;
Redditors began to post to the subreddit sharing their disgust and hate for the new management, including propaganda being created to inspire redditors to take action collectively against the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This plan worked, as almost the entire community reddit began to work together to begin to topple imbalance of power. This marked the first day of the uprising and the beginning of the 3 Days War, as the subreddit, Daniel Larson World discord server, and other small subreddits began to join forces to attack the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
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== April 2 / Dox Conflict / The Plane ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
April 2nd marks the first day in which personal information about manager [[IWishIHadADad]] began to be released.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Originally doxxed by a user of the Daniel Larson World Discord, information about the manager began to become widespread information. This attack exposed the manager as a money begging serial Twitter user, a father, and other personal information. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a result of this information being released, the manager began to get cold feet, saying on a stage press conference that he &amp;quot;may be leaving for a little bit&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only a few minutes later he would retract this statement by stating &amp;quot;they want to scare me, I am going nowhere&amp;quot;. This would ultimately be his worst mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Behind the scenes, an army of information gathering trolls began to gain the information of other admins should this information need to be released. This included the information of administrator Zen98. Although this information was never released, it is confirmed that their information was on hold and to be used if future plans were not to work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The Plane===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coordinated by manager [[IWishIHadADad]], Daniel sent $115 to the Cashapp of his manager. It was at this time that the manager purchased the ticket for Daniel using Daniels&#039; money from donations to purchase a planet ticket from Houston to Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This ticket purchase was confirmed to be real, Daniel’s manager also confirming in front of an audience of 300+ that Daniel also gave [[IWishIHadADad]] his debit card information, his email, and other financial details to purchase the ticket, even though they had only known each other for two days.&lt;br /&gt;
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Reddit users became outraged that this manager was enabling, coddling, and supporting a pedophile. This enraged the reddit and other discord users more, enabling the community to attack much harder.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was at this point that the resistance against the management became organized. Although a few discord users supported the purchase of the ticket, a large percentage of users did not agree with the situation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== April 3 / The Nuclear Dox / The Final Push / Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On April 3rd, Daniel was at Houston International Airport awaiting his flight. It was on this day that a Daniel Larson World discord user discovered the criminal history of [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The criminal history included child abuse charges with the detail of &amp;quot;great bodily injury&amp;quot;, which in legal terms, explains that the injury to the child was extremely vicious and potentially life threatening. IWish admitted to his child abusing past with no remorse, joking about the child abuse. He went on to say that there is &amp;quot;no reason to explain himself to internet trolls&amp;quot;, using his &amp;quot;baby momma&amp;quot;  and his use of Xanax as excuses. It was made evidently clear that IWish did not care about his children, family, or really himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This information became widespread and spread like wildfire to the reddit. By the end of the day almost every subreddit user understood what IWish was really about, and understood his dark past. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warned by others before, IWish was not prepared for what would happen to him during his new management &amp;quot;career&amp;quot;. This is the first time in management history that a manager has been exposed for such heinous and horrible charges, and the first time that a manager has been researched to such an extent.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With skeletons in his closet, IWish became debatably one of the most hated figures in Daniel Larson lore history, akin to [[Ox]] and [[Flexburger]]. Some users describe IWishes&#039; dox and exposure much worse and eventful that Oxes and Flexburgers ever was. Guided by ignorance and selfishness, IWish drove himself directly into a brick wall.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Towards the end of April 3, the Discord server was deleted with an astounding Reddit victory. The deletion was due to the owner finally realizing the position he had put himself in, becoming an extremely hated figure and being ridiculed by hundreds for his horrible child beating past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has been proven that IWish still has some contact with Daniel as of April 4 2023, but considering Daniel has returned to Tiktok and began begging for donations once more, order within the community has finally been restored.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On April 3rd, Daniel was convinced by trolls in the server, before its deletion, that the Vanderwaal family would be waiting to pickup Daniel after he had landed in Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was most notably performed by the Olivia and Dave Vanderwaal trolls on the QnA stage. During this QnA, they discuss paparazzi, Tina being in disguise holding a sign with a codeword, and planning what Daniel will do with the Vanderwaal family in New York City. Daniel falls for this and makes his way to New York anticipating the Vanderwaals. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable Reddit Resistance Figures / &amp;quot;Larson Purists&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Clowny&lt;br /&gt;
* JustinJust-In&lt;br /&gt;
* u/cumfart6_&lt;br /&gt;
* u/Astro&lt;br /&gt;
* u/HairyPussyQueefs&lt;br /&gt;
* Bobbybacala&lt;br /&gt;
* Alex Jones&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable QnA Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IWishIHadADad]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Zen98&lt;br /&gt;
* Detah&lt;br /&gt;
* PassiveObserver&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refrences ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=3_Days_War&amp;diff=21731</id>
		<title>3 Days War</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=3_Days_War&amp;diff=21731"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:10:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Sources}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Reddit-Discord Conflict&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a digital siege which occurred between April 1 - April 3 of 2023. This internet conflict took place between two Larson-oriented communities, the Daniel Larson Subreddit [[r/Daniellarson]] and the Discord known as &amp;quot;[[Daniel Larson QnA]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Numerous viewpoints have been offered on the subject, with some Larsonian scholars calling it the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Larson Civil War&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==Conflicting Viewpoints==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===r/Daniellarson===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The subreddit r/Daniellarson viewed the Discord server and [[management]] as the [[Gatekeeping|gatekeepers]] and worst [[manipulators]] of [[Daniel Larson]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/aW9rg&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The managers, who maintained control over Daniels whereabouts, activities, and interactions with the community, would begin to host QnA sessions on discord where users would be forced to donate an amount of $5-$20 to ask Daniel Larson a question. Any questions that were perceived as troll questions were removed without refunds, and were often seen as unfair.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/czu7z&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reddit users became extremely frustrated and outraged with this new management, them alleging that Daniel was being limited in his content creation and that he was being enabled to make money on the platform. Reddit users suspected that Daniel would not return to TikTok and other social platforms as long as he was being managed and enabled by the Discord server, with the logic being that Daniel Larson was known to take the path of least resistance, and viewed the Discord as a new and easier way to gain donations with the help of his managers, most notably being his head manager [[IWishIHadADad]], who was a confirmed child abuser. Reddit users decided it was their time to take action and liberate Daniel from his new management.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/j7kkA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Daniel Larson QnA===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The managers of Daniel Larson QnA viewed the discord as a way of making new Daniel Larson content and the subreddit as a bunch of trolls who wanted to hold Daniel back.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1299v75/daniel_larson_addressing_his_relationship_with/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Discord server, as its name states, hosted QnA sessions where the owner of the server would allow people to pay them to ask Daniel questions, with a revenue split between him and Daniel, this was often seen as an exploitation of Daniel&#039;s mental illnesses. Even though the managers never claimed to be [[gatekeeping]] Daniel Larson, the Reddit claims they fully understood that they had full control over Daniel and information pertaining to him.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129r55z/daniel_larson_rage_quits_after_no_one_was/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They would spark controversy and infamy as there were claims that they started to work together to ensure that Daniel solely contacted them and that they were the keyholders to anything and everything about Daniel. Although the managers of Daniel would say that they were not seeking clout and or control of Daniel, it was clearly evident that IWishIHadADad had plans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/cFGNk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Driven by his need to be directly in contact with Daniel and their desire to have power over the situation, they intended to counter the subreddit&#039;s desire for Daniel content and tried to keep Daniel under their wing. This plan would ultimately fail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129yt52/daniel_larson_addressing_the_use_of_the_self/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==April 1 / Unrest on the Horizon==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
April 1st marked the first day in which Daniel Larson QnA began operating.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the night of April 1st we see the server host its first QnA event, where Daniel is brought onto the Discord stage to answer questions from fans. Little to nothing happens during these types of events. In most cases Daniel would get cold feet and leave the stage time and time again after receiving questions that he perceived would dox his location, or when Daniel was in situations that would overstimulate him. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel would continue with his regular antics, using the discord server to tag @everyone constantly and plugging his [[cashapp]], to the point the admins would take it away from him. He also would use the chat to say ridiculous and random things throughout the servers existence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although most of what came out of the Discord QnA server was a huge nothing burger, there were a few notable events.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Fake Plane Ticket&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Faketicketsent.png|200px|thumb|left|Fake ticket sent by management]]&lt;br /&gt;
On April 1st, users and management attempted to send Daniel a fake plane ticket in hopes that Daniel would arrive to Houston International Airport and go into an airport meltdown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Three fake tickets were created, with one of the tickets being an &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; poorly faked ticket, edited within what seemed to be snapchat. A discord user by the name of Clowny aided the server in creating two other tickets that seemed extremely realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The management, in a dash of extreme incompetence, decided to send Daniel the poorly faked original ticket. Daniel immediately knew that the ticket was fake, resulting in the plan failing entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Tina &amp;amp; Olivia Vanderwaal&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two trolls by the fake names of Tina and Olivia Vanderwaal worked to trick Daniel into thinking that he was having a conversation with the real members of the [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaal family]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although Daniel was convinced that Olivia Vanderwaal was real, he had his doubts about the authenticity of the Tina Vanderwaal troll, who threw Daniel into a paranoid episode resulting in his exit from the stage. Olivia was able to convince Daniel that she had a fondness for Daniel, and that Daniel should consider a three-way with him, Grace, and Olivia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;Questionable Daniel Comments&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
Although Daniel would mostly write nonsense into the general chat of the server, Daniel sent a few questionable comments into the general chats of the Discord QnA server. Two of the most notable comments being:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;You can have protected sex with guardian permission in Florida.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Me and Grace are having sex tonight.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;Enabled by the server to feed his delusions, Daniel convinced himself once more that his relationship with Grace was real and legitimate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Operation Liberate Larson ==&lt;br /&gt;
Many reddit users became immediately upset with the entire situation understanding that this new management was up to absolutely no good. Reddit, in cooperation with other smaller lolcow subreddits, began initiating their first attack against the QnA server known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Operation Liberate Larson&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The plan was simple, find any way to report the Discord server to Discord Trust &amp;amp; Safety in hopes that the Discord server would be taken down for not enforcing punishments against users who were not abiding by Discords&#039; Terms of Service. According to sources, over 50 reports were confirmed to have been made to Discord through their website portal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This entire plan was based on the fact that Discord had recently changed its TOS, enforcing rules and violations on more servers and users in an ironfist fashion. Although this ultimately failed in taking down the server, it was confirmed by third party sources that over 15 users of the QnA server received account bans as a result of the reports.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FTC Debacle===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was discovered that the Daniel Larson QnA server was holding a raffle for Daniels&#039; famous [[scabies]] jacket he had during the [[Homeless Arc|homeless arc]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The discord server was selling 10 raffle tickets for $3.00 using Discord&#039;s subscription feature to sell the tickets. It is unknown how many subscriptions were purchased, but it was estimated that 5-10 subscriptions were purchased, resulting in an income of at least $30 through the Discord. Although the raffle was unsuccessful, redditors who were working to take down the server understood that the QnA server was in direct violation of federal law in regards to raffles and prizes enforced by the Federal Trade Commission.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The server had no way of obtaining the jacket, had no ownership of the jacket, and had no plan of actual sending the jacket to the supposed &amp;quot;raffle winner&amp;quot;. Although the raffle inevitably never took place, the money was taken by the owner of the server [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reddit users planned to report the owner and the server to the FTC if the raffle officially went through for fraud and a fake prize.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Uprising===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Untitled-1.png|200px|thumb|right|Reddit Rise]]&lt;br /&gt;
Redditors began to post to the subreddit sharing their disgust and hate for the new management, including propaganda being created to inspire redditors to take action collectively against the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This plan worked, as almost the entire community reddit began to work together to begin to topple imbalance of power. This marked the first day of the uprising and the beginning of the 3 Days War, as the subreddit, Daniel Larson World discord server, and other small subreddits began to join forces to attack the QnA server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== April 2 / Dox Conflict / The Plane ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
April 2nd marks the first day in which personal information about manager [[IWishIHadADad]] began to be released.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Originally doxxed by a user of the Daniel Larson World Discord, information about the manager began to become widespread information. This attack exposed the manager as a money begging serial Twitter user, a father, and other personal information. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a result of this information being released, the manager began to get cold feet, saying on a stage press conference that he &amp;quot;may be leaving for a little bit&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only a few minutes later he would retract this statement by stating &amp;quot;they want to scare me, I am going nowhere&amp;quot;. This would ultimately be his worst mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Behind the scenes, an army of information gathering trolls began to gain the information of other admins should this information need to be released. This included the information of administrator Zen98. Although this information was never released, it is confirmed that their information was on hold and to be used if future plans were not to work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The Plane===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coordinated by manager [[IWishIHadADad]], Daniel sent $115 to the Cashapp of his manager. It was at this time that the manager purchased the ticket for Daniel using Daniels&#039; money from donations to purchase a planet ticket from Houston to Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This ticket purchase was confirmed to be real, Daniel’s manager also confirming in front of an audience of 300+ that Daniel also gave [[IWishIHadADad]] his debit card information, his email, and other financial details to purchase the ticket, even though they had only known each other for two days.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reddit users became outraged that this manager was enabling, coddling, and supporting a pedophile. This enraged the reddit and other discord users more, enabling the community to attack much harder.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was at this point that the resistance against the management became organized. Although a few discord users supported the purchase of the ticket, a large percentage of users did not agree with the situation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== April 3 / The Nuclear Dox / The Final Push / Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On April 3rd, Daniel was at Houston International Airport awaiting his flight. It was on this day that a Daniel Larson World discord user discovered the criminal history of [[IWishIHadADad]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The criminal history included child abuse charges with the detail of &amp;quot;great bodily injury&amp;quot;, which in legal terms, explains that the injury to the child was extremely vicious and potentially life threatening. IWish admitted to his child abusing past with no remorse, joking about the child abuse. He went on to say that there is &amp;quot;no reason to explain himself to internet trolls&amp;quot;, using his &amp;quot;baby momma&amp;quot;  and his use of Xanax as excuses. It was made evidently clear that IWish did not care about his children, family, or really himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This information became widespread and spread like wildfire to the reddit. By the end of the day almost every subreddit user understood what IWish was really about, and understood his dark past. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warned by others before, IWish was not prepared for what would happen to him during his new management &amp;quot;career&amp;quot;. This is the first time in management history that a manager has been exposed for such heinous and horrible charges, and the first time that a manager has been researched to such an extent.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With skeletons in his closet, IWish became debatably one of the most hated figures in Daniel Larson lore history, akin to [[Ox]] and [[Flexburger]]. Some users describe IWishes&#039; dox and exposure much worse and eventful that Oxes and Flexburgers ever was. Guided by ignorance and selfishness, IWish drove himself directly into a brick wall.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Towards the end of April 3, the Discord server was deleted with an astounding Reddit victory. The deletion was due to the owner finally realizing the position he had put himself in, becoming an extremely hated figure and being ridiculed by hundreds for his horrible child beating past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has been proven that IWish still has some contact with Daniel as of April 4 2023, but considering Daniel has returned to Tiktok and began begging for donations once more, order within the community has finally been restored.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Vanderwaal Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On April 3rd, Daniel was convinced by trolls in the server, before its deletion, that the Vanderwaal family would be waiting to pickup Daniel after he had landed in Newark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was most notably performed by the Olivia and Dave Vanderwaal trolls on the QnA stage. During this QnA, they discuss paparazzi, Tina being in disguise holding a sign with a codeword, and planning what Daniel will do with the Vanderwaal family in New York City. Daniel falls for this and makes his way to New York anticipating the Vanderwaals. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable Reddit Resistance Figures / &amp;quot;Larson Purists&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Clowny&lt;br /&gt;
* JustinJust-In&lt;br /&gt;
* u/cumfart6_&lt;br /&gt;
* u/Astro&lt;br /&gt;
* u/HairyPussyQueefs&lt;br /&gt;
* Bobbybacala&lt;br /&gt;
* Alex Jones&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable QnA Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IWishIHadADad]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Zen98&lt;br /&gt;
* Detah&lt;br /&gt;
* PassiveObserver&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refrences ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Incidents&amp;diff=21729</id>
		<title>Incidents</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Incidents&amp;diff=21729"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:07:24Z</updated>

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{{SpecialMessage|Message=Keep in mind that, while these are listed chronologically by year, they are not listed chronologically by month/day}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
An &#039;&#039;&#039;incident&#039;&#039;&#039; is an event or occurrence of something. In terms of Daniel Larson, an incident represents an event which Daniel does something notable, such as a [[Meltdowns|meltdown]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Most well-known incidents ==&lt;br /&gt;
These incidents are significant and well known.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2021 ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[May 6th]] - first major use of the term and was a turning point for Daniel&#039;s social media &amp;quot;career&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Likee Meltdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2022 ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Porch Charging Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[December 10th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2023 ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Planet Fitness Bathroom Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bodega Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Häagen-Dazs Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[August 31st Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Panera Bread Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Olive Garden Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== &#039;&#039;&#039;2024&#039;&#039;&#039; ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[April 6th Meltdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Extreme incidents ==&lt;br /&gt;
These incidents display an extreme amount of violence, sexuality, or criminality&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2021 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[May 6th]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Likee Meltdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2022 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[The Toothbrush Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Miss P|October 16th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[December 10th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2023 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bodega Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[July 3rd Community Tab Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;May 2023 flexburger leaks&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Pencil incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[The Bottle Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[The Shower Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Big Dick Muscle Man Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[August 28th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[August 29th Meltdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[August 31st Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Häagen-Dazs Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Panera Bread Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Christmas Day Meltdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2024 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[April 6th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Public incidents ==&lt;br /&gt;
These incidents happened in public buildings, particularly businesses&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2023 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[May 17th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[The Golden Hotel Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Planet Fitness Bathroom Kickout]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drone Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IHOP Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Colorado Mills Mall Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Olive Garden Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[The Golden Hotel Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2024 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[January 5th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[March 23rd Meltdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[April 6th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other incidents ==&lt;br /&gt;
The term is commonly used for any non-public or not very notable/extreme incidents&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2022 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Porch Charging Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sleepy Joe|Sleepy Joe Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2023 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Machete Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[The Anti-Semetic Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Justin Bieber Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[March 30th Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[July 24th Meltdown]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fake Security Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2024 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mountain dew incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fart Spray Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Today ==&lt;br /&gt;
Following [[Second Jail Arc|his arrest and subsequent imprisonment on serious legal charges]], Daniel is no longer out in public and able to to be provoked or manipulated by [[trolls]], [[management]] or other such people into causing an incident (like a meltdown or terroristic threat). As such, these current circumstances seem to spell the end of Daniel&#039;s story, and with it, the many incidents within Larstory.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Case_Managers&amp;diff=21727</id>
		<title>Case Managers</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Case_Managers&amp;diff=21727"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:05:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Case Managers to List of Daniel Larson&amp;#039;s Case Managers: cmon&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;For the trolls who claim to be Daniel&#039;s business managers, see [[Management]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A &#039;&#039;&#039;case manager&#039;&#039;&#039; is an occupation that coordinates services on behalf of an individual in different settings such as health care, nursing, rehabilitation, social work, disability insurance, employment, and law.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not to be confused with the [[trolls]] who pretend to manage Daniel&#039;s music career and his other affairs, [[Daniel Larson]] has had many case managers throughout the years. He has hired and fired them due to minor inconveniences, and despite being constantly disrespectful to them, has alleged abuse at the hands of his case managers, most notably [[Jonas]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Because of this alleged “abuse”, Daniel has effectively stopped working with case managers, instead opting to [[Homeless Era|live on the streets.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List ==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+&lt;br /&gt;
!Name&lt;br /&gt;
!Hired&lt;br /&gt;
!Fired&lt;br /&gt;
!Notes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Reva]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Circa October 2020, &lt;br /&gt;
rehired July 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021, fired again&lt;br /&gt;
April 2023 or earlier&lt;br /&gt;
|[[The Dark Ages|Took away his phone for 6 months]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Ian]]&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p4fmb1/whos_the_mysterious_man_that_plays_guitar_when/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
|January 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|Replaced with Andrew, and hated by Daniel&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jodie]]&lt;br /&gt;
|March 2022&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/tiu56l/my_new_assistant_case_manager_jodie_is_trying_to/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|July 2022 or earlier&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Andrew]]&lt;br /&gt;
|January 2022&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/shk7rn/daniels_new_case_manager/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|July 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|One of the most notorious case managers, a common scapegoat for Daniel Larson.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jonas]]&lt;br /&gt;
|July 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|December 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Daniel often accused Jonas of hitting him or abusing him in other ways&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Case managers]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Case_Managers&amp;diff=21726</id>
		<title>Case Managers</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Case_Managers&amp;diff=21726"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:05:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: /* List of case managers */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;For the trolls who claim to be Daniel&#039;s business managers, see [[Management]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A &#039;&#039;&#039;case manager&#039;&#039;&#039; is an occupation that coordinates services on behalf of an individual in different settings such as health care, nursing, rehabilitation, social work, disability insurance, employment, and law.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not to be confused with the [[trolls]] who pretend to manage Daniel&#039;s music career and his other affairs, [[Daniel Larson]] has had many case managers throughout the years. He has hired and fired them due to minor inconveniences, and despite being constantly disrespectful to them, has alleged abuse at the hands of his case managers, most notably [[Jonas]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Because of this alleged “abuse”, Daniel has effectively stopped working with case managers, instead opting to [[Homeless Era|live on the streets.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List ==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+&lt;br /&gt;
!Name&lt;br /&gt;
!Hired&lt;br /&gt;
!Fired&lt;br /&gt;
!Notes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Reva]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Circa October 2020, &lt;br /&gt;
rehired July 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021, fired again&lt;br /&gt;
April 2023 or earlier&lt;br /&gt;
|[[The Dark Ages|Took away his phone for 6 months]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Ian]]&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p4fmb1/whos_the_mysterious_man_that_plays_guitar_when/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
|January 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|Replaced with Andrew, and hated by Daniel&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jodie]]&lt;br /&gt;
|March 2022&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/tiu56l/my_new_assistant_case_manager_jodie_is_trying_to/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|July 2022 or earlier&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Andrew]]&lt;br /&gt;
|January 2022&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/shk7rn/daniels_new_case_manager/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|July 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|One of the most notorious case managers, a common scapegoat for Daniel Larson.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jonas]]&lt;br /&gt;
|July 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|December 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Daniel often accused Jonas of hitting him or abusing him in other ways&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Case managers]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Management&amp;diff=21724</id>
		<title>Management</title>
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		<updated>2025-03-07T08:03:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Management to Daniel Larson&amp;#039;s Management History: specificity &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;For information on Daniel Larson’s professional case managers, see [[Case Managers]]&#039;&#039;{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|The Daniel Larson Wiki, and the community at large, strongly advise AGAINST trying to manage Daniel. While Daniel desires help, he does not want anything that is of true meaning to him, wanting to remain delusional. As good as your intentions may be, It is best to not interact with him, as many have tried and failed.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|Management needs to stop telling me how to live my fucking life, before I fire everyone!||author=[[Daniel]], in a rare moment of self-awareness. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17g95n9/that_didnt_take_long/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NewClarkImage.png|thumb|300x300px|Clark, one of Daniel&#039;s most infamous managers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Management,&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;Managers&#039;&#039;&#039; is an umbrella term that described people or groups (who are oftentimes [[trolls]]) who had significant power over Daniel’s actions, and seek to influence Daniel under the guise of being a legitimate manager or management company. Some of the most infamous events in Daniel Larson history have been caused by these managers&#039; influence. Managers are also known to have produced a generous amount of Daniel&#039;s [[Discography|non-studio recorded music]], though this appears to have ceased past 2022.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, the management label is not to be confused with Daniel&#039;s [[Daniel Larson&#039;s case managers|&#039;&#039;case managers&#039;&#039;]], whose job it is to assist Daniel and provide resources for him. Rather, these managers were more often than not manipulative trolls who sought to humiliate Daniel in exchange for their own amusement, or for self-righteous goals.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is worth noting however that not all “managers” are created equal. Some did genuinely wish to help Daniel, and had provided him with donations, necessities, and advice. However, these managers were in the minority, and most notable ones have quit due to Daniel refusing their help, and his behavior toward them. Managers are also often known for [[gatekeeping]] content of Daniel from the masses, as to not reveal their identities, or to keep Daniel&#039;s actions secret from the community to not cause outrage, ironically enough.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following the April 30th arrest and the subsequent [[Second Jail Arc]], management of Daniel largely ceased (though [[Clark]] still retained contact with him over the phone). With his transfer to and subsequent institutionalization at MCFP Springfield, management has effectively come to an end, or at least won&#039;t return for a period of several months, if not years. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Impact on Daniel ==&lt;br /&gt;
Managers first started to appear in 2020, the first of which that was being [[Rectus Abdominus#Graduate Records|Graduate Records]], a legitimate record company, though would not sign with him them. The first label he signed with can be identified as [[Fine Dining Records]], though it&#039;s unclear if they were truly the first. Groups, as well as individual people, tried to manage Daniel when he first began going viral on TikTok. Many of these early groups of people would invite him to [[Zoom Meetings|Zoom meetings]] or Discord calls, attempting to troll him and making Daniel say racial slurs. Many of these trolls had their names on Zoom or Discord set to well known record labels or talent agencies, and offered to sign him if he auditioned by doing irrational and disturbing things on camera.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel, with [[Delusions|dreams]] of becoming a [[Music Career|famous music star]], would fall victim to these trolls frequently (though, his gullibility has significantly gone down over time). These meetings were often recorded, which has led to many infamous clips of Daniel doing irrational things in order to become a professional singer. These include but are not limited to saying racial slurs, explaining how he wants to legalize child molestation, or exposing his genitals for people to see.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even so, what must be known is that not all managers have negative intentions when interacting with Daniel. Many managers, such as [[Ox]], LootBox Productions, and Bianka, have attempted to improve Daniel&#039;s life by supplying him with a steady flow of cash to spend on various expenses. However, what must be noted is that these managers are in the minority, due to Daniel evidently not wanting to accept the help given to him. A notable example of this is [[Bianka]], who quit after months of verbal abuse from Daniel and him denying any sort of help, opting to indulge in his delusions and deny anyone who said other words.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List of managers ==&lt;br /&gt;
Here is a list of all of Daniel&#039;s managers, oldest to newest. &lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+&lt;br /&gt;
!Manager&lt;br /&gt;
!Start of Service&lt;br /&gt;
!End of Service&lt;br /&gt;
!Reason&lt;br /&gt;
!Active?&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Fine Dining Records]]&lt;br /&gt;
|May 2020&lt;br /&gt;
|Late 2020&lt;br /&gt;
|It is unknown as to why Fine Dining ended their tenure with Daniel Larson. Though, given Daniel&#039;s comments about them, it may seem that his relationship with them were strained.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Roach Records]]&lt;br /&gt;
|October 2020&lt;br /&gt;
|November 2020&lt;br /&gt;
|Quit after becoming aware of Daniels pedophilia following the Pinterest leak.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Flexburger]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Early 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021?&lt;br /&gt;
|Cut off by Daniel following after exposing Daniel for pedophilic behavior. Flexburger still serves a large role within the Daniel Larson community today.&lt;br /&gt;
|Yes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Party House Records]]&lt;br /&gt;
|March 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Flexburgers management company, which managed Daniel at the same time of Flexburger managing him. After Flexburger was fired following him exposing Daniel&#039;s pedophilia, he signed with Party House. Flexburger was blackmailed into giving up the manager position to Samantha. &lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lil Sid]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Mid 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|September 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|While information on Lil Sid is somewhat scarce, we know that she ended her tenure with Daniel in September of 2021. Still active in the community.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Samantha]]&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|December 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Was fired by Daniel after she confronted Daniel for his pedophilia, as well as being doxxed. &lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Combotter]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Early 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|November 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Stopped managing Daniel after being doxxed.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jared]]&lt;br /&gt;
|August 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Late 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Left the community after being doxxed through blackmail. Also worked alongside Samantha. &lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Quacko]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Late 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Mid 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|Left the Daniel Larson community after the subreddit had doxxed him for gatekeeping Daniel. &lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Bianka]]&lt;br /&gt;
|January 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|March 26, 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|Quit being Daniel&#039;s manager after finding it difficult to work with him, as well as his pedophilia. &lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Ox]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Summer 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|January 15, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|Quit being Daniel&#039;s manager after finding it increasingly more and more difficult to work with him, and due to Daniel&#039;s active warrants.&lt;br /&gt;
|Maybe&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[IWishIHadADad]]&lt;br /&gt;
|April 1st, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|April 3rd, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|Ended his tenure after being doxxed for gatekeeping Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Daniel Larson HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Early 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|April 2023?&lt;br /&gt;
|The 2 individuals who posed as Daniel&#039;s fake Vanderwaal managers may have ended their tenure, though evidence shows that they may have been active up until the [[Jail Arc]].&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[KOK Records]]&lt;br /&gt;
|2020&lt;br /&gt;
|2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Information on KOK Records is scarce, however with the available information it can be determined that KOK Records had left Daniel around the same time Roach Records left due to the same reason.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Platinum Elite Records]]&lt;br /&gt;
|November 13, 2020?&lt;br /&gt;
|November 18, 2020?&lt;br /&gt;
|It is unknown as to why Platinum Elite cut off Daniel, though it is probable that Daniel himself stopped contacting them. Platinum Elite has expressed desire to manage Daniel once more in 2023.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jay]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Early 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Late 2021&lt;br /&gt;
|Left the community after being doxxed.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lootbox Productions]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Early 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|Late 2022&lt;br /&gt;
|It is unknown as to why Lootbox cut off contact with Daniel.&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Warren]]&lt;br /&gt;
|June 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|Late 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|It is unknown who Warren is, let alone why he left. &lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[LBI Entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Fall 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jail Arc|February 3rd, 2024]]&lt;br /&gt;
|One of the current management groups of Daniel, though has not been mentioned since the [[Olive Garden Incident]].&lt;br /&gt;
|No&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Clark]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Fall 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|present&lt;br /&gt;
|Most likely &#039;&#039;&#039;the last manager&#039;&#039;&#039; of Daniel Larson prior to his incarceration. He has been behind each call to Daniel while he was in jail, providing 4 calls between him and Daniel, as well as being behind the [[UCLA Arc]]. Clark had officially announced his retirement from managing Daniel on the 1st of March, 2024, however in April of 2024 he came back as manager. Clark officially departed from management sometime in May 2024 following Daniel&#039;s arrest, making him the last ever manager of Daniel Larson. However in September of 2024 it was revealed that Clark continued contact with Daniel, and does so to this day.&lt;br /&gt;
|Yes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lil Sippy]]&lt;br /&gt;
|October 2024&lt;br /&gt;
|present&lt;br /&gt;
|The current individual speaking with Daniel while he is behind bars. He contacts Daniel about once per week, and currently has a beef with Clark.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Management| ]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Celebrity_in_the_Hospital_Incident&amp;diff=21723</id>
		<title>Celebrity in the Hospital Incident</title>
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		<updated>2025-03-07T08:02:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Celebrity in the Hospital Incident to &amp;quot;Celebrity in the Hospital!&amp;quot;: this page revolves around the origin of the phrase, and thus is less of an incident&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[&amp;quot;Celebrity in the Hospital!&amp;quot;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Celebrity_in_the_Hospital&amp;diff=21722</id>
		<title>Celebrity in the Hospital</title>
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		<updated>2025-03-07T08:02:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Celebrity in the Hospital Incident to &amp;quot;Celebrity in the Hospital!&amp;quot;: this page revolves around the origin of the phrase, and thus is less of an incident&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Videos Need Archiving}}{{Quote|THERE IS CURRENTLY A CELEBRITY IN THE HOSPITAL! WE ARE ASKING THAT THE MESSAGE GETS OUT!||source=Daniel shouting in a restaurant before being kicked out}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Celebrity in the hospital&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a phrase used by [[Daniel Larson]] in 2021, the aforementioned celebrity being [[Grace VanderWaal]]. This is one of his most notable and strange ramblings, taking place on July 13, 2021. In December 2023, it was eventually revealed that Daniel had been told by trolls / management, more specifically [[Party House Records]], that Grace had died of a &amp;quot;stress-related heart attack&amp;quot;, and that her final words to Daniel were that he needs to carry on her legacy, presumably by announcing her death.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel ran around in public, screaming this phrase at random people at the request of [[Management|managers]]. He proceeded to go in restaurants, yelling the phrase before being subsequently kicked out, interrupting a soccer game, screaming in a bar, going up to a random man pumping gas, and announcing to his TikTok followers about the infamous celebrity in the hospital. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Background==&lt;br /&gt;
It was clear from the start that Daniel was manipulated into doing this by trolls, as Grace was not only alive but also had never been in contact with Daniel anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In December 2023, a video shown by [[LarsonLeak]] revealed previously unseen footage, in which Daniel appears to be talking to [[Management]] while on a video or Discord call. It seems that management is giving Daniel instructions on what to do in the video. This would also inadvertently reveal that the videos were not uploaded by Daniel himself, as he was on the video call during the ramblings. This explains the low quality of the videos and confirms that management at the time had access to his TikTok account(s).&lt;br /&gt;
{{#ev:youtube|sVdhASGNW5o||center|Segment from 2:26-5:15|frame}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Man eating ===&lt;br /&gt;
It can be inferred that the trolls were instructing Daniel to go up to someone and spread the news of Grace&#039;s death, as Daniel is heard saying, &amp;quot;I could try this person.&amp;quot; Daniel goes up to a random guy eating outside a Smashburger at Tavor Center in Denver. He tells him that Grace VanderWaal died as of 6:30, and walks away after the man gives him a confused look.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Cheesecake Factory ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel is talking to management again, saying &amp;quot;I don&#039;t even know what the hell that place is,&amp;quot; referring to a Cheecake Factory restaurant with a clearly visible sign. Daniel walks into the restaurant, but is then presumably told by management to spread the message on the patio. In fact, Daniel can even be heard refusing orders from management, saying &amp;quot;No... You want to me act- I&#039;m not gonna do that&amp;quot; and complying anyway. He then proceeds to once again spread the message, saying her record label wanted the message out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Fan ===&lt;br /&gt;
Following this, Daniel was spotted by a fan, who asked him for a picture. Daniel proceeds to tell the fan that Grace passed away from a stress related stroke, then switches the reason to a heart attack and tells the fan &amp;quot;Allah Akbar&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Restaurant===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel went running into a different restaurant, screaming aloud to the crowded restaurant about the celebrity in the hospital. An employee almost instantly kicked him out. Despite this, he ran back in and accused him of assault, and promptly left again, arguing the whole way out.{{#ev:youtube|r_sW2_qcAGI||center||frame}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Transcript ====&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: There is currently a celebrity in the hospital! We are asking that the message gets out!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(employee quickly walks towards him)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;...let&#039;s go.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;That&#039;s very rude of you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;And you&#039;re talking gibberish, let&#039;s go.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Daniel attempts to return to the restaurant and is physically blocked by the employee)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;That was assault, by the way&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;No, it wasn&#039;t.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Yeah it was, I have it all on film.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;Ok, film me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;No, I&#039;m not going to because you tried to grab me&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;I did not try-&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Yeah, you did! Yeah, you did, it&#039;s all on film&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;Ok, bye.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;It&#039;s all on film...&amp;quot; [&#039;&#039;video abruptly ends&#039;&#039;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Bar ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel walked up to the host and hostess of a bar and told them that a celebrity named [[Grace VanderWaal]] was in the hospital and died at 6:30 that night. He asked them to spread the message that Grace was dead. The host actually believed him and seemed surprised, but the hostess looked less convinced. He left shortly after and was not kicked out.{{#ev:youtube|UYHJQc4vAxk||center||frame}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Transcript ====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Daniel walks up to hostess table&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Hello, there is currently a celebrity of the name of Grace Vandewaal that just passed away as of 6:30 tonight, we&#039;re asking that the message get spread. Do you guys think you could spread the message through here?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;Grace...?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Grace VanderWaal.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;Isn&#039;t she from AGT?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Yes&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;She died?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;She &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; died&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;Stop it.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;(shocked)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Yeah. I&#039;m currently- I was actually supposed to do a collaboration with her and she just passed away just as she died.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;Shut up.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Yeah-&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Employee: &amp;quot;This better be fake news.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;It&#039;s not. It&#039;s actually- I&#039;m gonna be honest it just happened so the news has not picked it up yet but they will be shortly.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Soccer field===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel ran into the middle of a public park&#039;s soccer field during a game. There, he told the players that there was a celebrity in the hospital. He was interrupted once, but ultimately was not kicked out and left on his own volition.{{#ev:youtube|6hXbyjrJJSQ||center||frame}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Transcript ====&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;There is currently a celebrity in the hospital! We are asking that the information gets loose! Thank you everyone! Please spread the message! There is currently a celebrity-THERE IS CURRENTLY A CELEBRITY IN THE HOSPITAL! PLEASE SPREAD THE NEWS! There is currently a celebrity in the hospital! Please spread the news!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Daniel runs off and screams / laughs)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Gas Station===&lt;br /&gt;
During his rampage, Daniel went up to a man pumping his gas at night and letting told him about the celebrity in the hospital. The man did not care and let Daniel know. Daniel, seemingly upset by the man&#039;s lack of empathy, expressed, &amp;quot;dang..,&amp;quot; and whimpered.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{#evt:&lt;br /&gt;
service=archiveorg&lt;br /&gt;
|id=there-is-a-celebrity-in-the-hospital-n-4r-gvvo-9-uas&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Transcript ====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Daniel walks up to a man pumping gas.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Excuse me. There is currently a celebrity in the hospital-&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Man: &amp;quot;I don&#039;t give a fuck. Back the fuck up before I [&#039;&#039;unintelligible&#039;&#039;].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel: &amp;quot;Dang...&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;(whimpers)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other ramblings ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===TikTok live===&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85aCH03q3T8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel asked his family to pray for the VanderWaal family, saying that Grace was both in a car accident and jumped out of the window of a burning building.{{#ev:youtube|r_sW2_qcAGI||center||frame}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Delusions&amp;diff=21720</id>
		<title>Delusions</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Delusions&amp;diff=21720"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T08:00:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Delusions to Delusional Behavior of Daniel Larson: Specificity&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Rewrite|reason=Needs more information, citations}}{{Stub}}{{Delete|Can be merged into [[Daniel and psychiatry|Daniel and psychiatry]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|I wanna say that I&#039;m about, 10 to 15 percent of the world population... As far as how many people have seen my videos... I wanna say it&#039;s about 700 million.|source=Daniel when asked about how many fans he has in the [[Monkeyman Interview]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:FameREAL.png|thumb|This is what Daniel truly believes. ]][[Daniel Larson]] has many &#039;&#039;&#039;delusions&#039;&#039;&#039; due to his [[Daniel and Mental Health|mental illnesses]] and manipulation by trolls.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
One answer as to why Daniel experiences delusions is because of his various mental illnesses, most notably Autism, PTSD, Bipolar Disorder, and Schizophrenia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.ph/y3b1S&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Delusions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Fame ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel believes that he is a world-renowned international celebrity [[Music Career|singer-songwriter]] with billions of fans; despite this he has also referred to himself as an &amp;quot;up and coming artist.&amp;quot; While Daniel does have [[fans]] (and on a &#039;&#039;far&#039;&#039; smaller scale), it is not because of his music. It should be noted that the #DanielLarson hashtag on TikTok has over 1 billion views, but this does not come from people being interested in whatever music career Daniel &#039;&#039;thinks&#039;&#039; he has.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To further put things into perspective, Daniel has around 19,500 monthly listeners on Spotify; while Michael Jackson has 41.9 million; Taylor Swift, the top artist on Spotify, has 114.6 million. Needless to say, Daniel has a long way to go until he reaches the top charts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, this delusion of grandeur causes Daniel to continually believes that he needs a contract with a [[Management|record label]] or [[management]], leading to trolls manipulating him under the guise of it being for his music career.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Grace VanderWaal ===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Grace VanderWaal#Delusions|Grace VanderWaal]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many of Daniel&#039;s delusions involve [[Grace VanderWaal]], where as Grace had never even publicly acknowledged Daniel until April 2024, and definitely not in the positive light Daniel was hoping for. Due to [[trolls]] (as either [[management]] or Grace impersonators,) Daniel has been duped on multiple occasions into believing that he is in direct contact with Grace VanderWaal. He has been fed false information about Grace by trolls, especially around [[Grace VanderWaal#&amp;quot;Rest In Peace Dave and Grace VanderWaal&amp;quot;|Grace&#039;s supposed death]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some examples include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Believing that he is in an active relationship or otherwise in direct contact with Grace or her family.&lt;br /&gt;
** Daniel has been manipulated into doing [[August 29th Meltdown|basically]] [[The Toothbrush Incident|anything]] that he believes has something to do with Grace or his relationship with her.&lt;br /&gt;
* Believing that Grace is [[Celebrity in the hospital rambling|dying]] or dead.&lt;br /&gt;
* Believing that he will be collaborating with Grace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Isabella Larson ===&lt;br /&gt;
Sometime in December of 2021, Daniel was convinced that he had a sister named Isabella Larson who was pregnant. {{More Citations Needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Law enforcement ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel regularly believes that FBI (as well as other law enforcement and investigation agencies like the CIA,) are in direct contact with him. In some cases, he also believes that the FBI is cooperating with him such as during the [[The Flexburger War]], despite the fact that he has a [[Daniel&#039;s Criminal History|criminal record]]. Trolls are probably contacting him and pretending to be part of these organizations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A notable example of this was in the [[Olive Garden Incident]] where Daniel was completely convinced that the FBI was going to raid the building and shut down Olive Garden, even proceeding to attempt a citizens arrest on the employees.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Stalking ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel occasionally believes that he is being stalked by random parties. During his time in Texas Daniel believed that he was being stalked by a homeless man, as well as a while pickup truck.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Finances ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Daniel Larson&#039;s Finances}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nomoney.jpg|thumb|Daniel claiming to have his bank account robbed &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;as a result&#039;&#039;&#039; of&#039;&#039; not being able to pay for lunch... casually leaving him with 8.6 million dollars of debt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel will use fake bank account apps or budget tracker apps to create a &amp;quot;situation&amp;quot; in which he needs money. He is probably attempting to trick fans into giving him money by doing this, that is, he&#039;s begging with extra steps. Sometimes Daniel will declare an emergency about being a few billion dollars in debt.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/16qkxna/daniel_is_7_billion_dollars_in_debt/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Manifestations ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Daniel]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Discography&amp;diff=21719</id>
		<title>Discography</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Discography&amp;diff=21719"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T06:25:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;This article discusses music released by Daniel. For information on Daniel&#039;s music career as a whole, see [[Music Career]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DanSpotify.png|thumb|387x387px|Daniel&#039;s Spotify profile.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] has released &#039;&#039;&#039;multiple songs&#039;&#039;&#039; over the course of his internet micro-fame, claiming himself to be a professional singer-songwriter. Despite these claims, Daniel has recorded very few songs in professional studios, and those he has were paid for by [[Bob Proctor]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Studio singles ==&lt;br /&gt;
These songs were recorded in a professional studio, paid for by none other than [[Bob Proctor|Bob]]. It goes without saying that Daniel did not write any of these songs himself, rather, they are clearly generic, prewritten and pre-produced songs which he just provided the vocals for. These songs utilize heavy autotuning and various vocal effects to conceal Daniel&#039;s lack of singing ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Roaring Thunder ===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Roaring Thunder]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel&#039;s first professionally recorded song. Released July 15, 2021, but seems to have been re-released with a different cover on September 25, 2021.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6YbSxu2_OI Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Something More ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Something More&amp;quot; is Daniel&#039;s second professional song, released June 30, 2022.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlN42Nx4zo Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Merry Go Round ===&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike the previous two songs, &amp;quot;Merry Go Round&amp;quot; was leaked before release. The first of these leaks would come from a [[r/Daniellarson]] post on November 17, 2022, leaking lyrics and ideas for them seen in a note.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yxvo14/exclusive_informationdaniel_larsons_new_song/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Then, [[Murk]] leaked the song to the subreddit on February 10, 2023. Daniel threatened suicide to a fan who informed him of the leak.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12sjus9/daniel_reacts_to_merry_go_round_being_leaked/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The song would eventually release officially on June 29, 2023, and sounded different from the leaked version, suggesting it was unfinished when leaked. Then, as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]], two early versions leaked. The first, &amp;quot;Merry Go Round - Vocaltracks ready to mix.mp3&amp;quot;, sounds identical to the version leaked by Murk. The second, &amp;quot;Merry Go Round - Mix 2.mp3&amp;quot;, appears to be a slightly earlier version of the final mix.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_ggPrBsbA Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Scrapped studio singles ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Wild Hearts ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel recorded a cover of &amp;quot;Wild Hearts&amp;quot; by Keith Urban. Although it is rough and unmixed, the studio-quality vocals suggest that it was recorded in the same studio as the other songs. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was originally leaked as part of [[The Flexburger Leaks]]. Then, the original file leaked as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRC6vYlY25E Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unofficial projects ==&lt;br /&gt;
These songs are released under Daniel&#039;s name, though they are considered &#039;unofficial&#039; as they are clearly intended to troll or mock him. Consequently, the songs are intentionally bad.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGApp2P41CBh2BhWy1pDdb6hDpqYTFPAC King of Denver]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&amp;amp;list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Denver’s Most Wanted]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&amp;amp;list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Fame Game] (Quacko Album #1)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nS--4rwuto&amp;amp;list=PLkjzFvYYwfwf9GI-lNXEqTqL8RZGERGpp New World Order] (Quacko Album #2)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Club Penguin [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcAwHdg5Fo 1], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8wvaw0TF4 2], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNYPDR3qdtc 3], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzzKZpFekE 4].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/little-girls Little Girls]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8-joTfXdCo&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarson Funky Western Days]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX0oG9Q18D8&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarson Stay Tuned]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eKpZad8dKw Grave]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI8eId9vuz8&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarsonMusic Love Status]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yUawzIIrY&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarsonOfficialMusic Fortnite Freestyle] &#039;&#039;&#039;(features heavy use of [[Daniel Larson&#039;s Racism|racial slurs]])&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jmBuS5hod0 MANIPULATOR]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXptfI5a6RU Chimi Changa]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== SoundCloud projects ==&lt;br /&gt;
These projects are a mix of &#039;unofficial&#039; (made by trolls) and &#039;official&#039; (endorsed by Daniel.){{Citation Needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-ep &#039;&#039;DANIEL LARSON EP&#039;&#039;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/cp-ep &#039;&#039;CP EP&#039;&#039;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-vs-the-world &#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Vs. The World&#039;&#039;] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/im-sorry-grace I’m Sorry, Grace]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/gambling-freedom &#039;&#039;Gambling (Freedom)&#039;&#039;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/vlone-spit-feat-batman8142 Vlone Spit]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lost Music ==&lt;br /&gt;
These parts of Daniel&#039;s discography are considered [[Lost Media|lost media]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Platinum Elite Records|Superstar]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohefsS1zGJU Hey There Delilah (copyright blocked)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Big Bank Records|&#039;&#039;Pray 4 Denver (album)&#039;&#039;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Discography&amp;diff=21717</id>
		<title>Discography</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Discography&amp;diff=21717"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T06:22:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Discography to Discography of Daniel Larson: bruh&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;This article discusses music released by Daniel. For information on Daniel&#039;s music career as a whole, see [[Music Career]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DanSpotify.png|thumb|387x387px|Daniel&#039;s Spotify profile.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] has released &#039;&#039;&#039;multiple songs&#039;&#039;&#039; over the years, claiming himself to be a professional singer-songwriter. Even so, Daniel has recorded very few &amp;quot;actual&amp;quot; songs (i.e. in a professional studio.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Studio singles ==&lt;br /&gt;
These songs were recorded in a professional studio, paid for by none other than [[Bob Proctor|Bob]]. It goes without saying that Daniel did not write any of these songs himself, rather, they are clearly generic, prewritten and pre-produced songs which he just provided the vocals for. These songs utilize heavy autotuning and various vocal effects to conceal Daniel&#039;s lack of singing ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Roaring Thunder ===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Roaring Thunder]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel&#039;s first professionally recorded song. Released July 15, 2021, but seems to have been re-released with a different cover on September 25, 2021.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6YbSxu2_OI Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Something More ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Something More&amp;quot; is Daniel&#039;s second professional song, released June 30, 2022.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlN42Nx4zo Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Merry Go Round ===&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike the previous two songs, &amp;quot;Merry Go Round&amp;quot; was leaked before release. The first of these leaks would come from a [[r/Daniellarson]] post on November 17, 2022, leaking lyrics and ideas for them seen in a note.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yxvo14/exclusive_informationdaniel_larsons_new_song/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Then, [[Murk]] leaked the song to the subreddit on February 10, 2023. Daniel threatened suicide to a fan who informed him of the leak.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12sjus9/daniel_reacts_to_merry_go_round_being_leaked/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The song would eventually release officially on June 29, 2023, and sounded different from the leaked version, suggesting it was unfinished when leaked. Then, as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]], two early versions leaked. The first, &amp;quot;Merry Go Round - Vocaltracks ready to mix.mp3&amp;quot;, sounds identical to the version leaked by Murk. The second, &amp;quot;Merry Go Round - Mix 2.mp3&amp;quot;, appears to be a slightly earlier version of the final mix.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_ggPrBsbA Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Scrapped studio singles ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Wild Hearts ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel recorded a cover of &amp;quot;Wild Hearts&amp;quot; by Keith Urban. Although it is rough and unmixed, the studio-quality vocals suggest that it was recorded in the same studio as the other songs. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was originally leaked as part of [[The Flexburger Leaks]]. Then, the original file leaked as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRC6vYlY25E Listen on YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unofficial projects ==&lt;br /&gt;
These songs are released under Daniel&#039;s name, though they are considered &#039;unofficial&#039; as they are clearly intended to troll or mock him. Consequently, the songs are intentionally bad.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGApp2P41CBh2BhWy1pDdb6hDpqYTFPAC King of Denver]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&amp;amp;list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Denver’s Most Wanted]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&amp;amp;list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Fame Game] (Quacko Album #1)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nS--4rwuto&amp;amp;list=PLkjzFvYYwfwf9GI-lNXEqTqL8RZGERGpp New World Order] (Quacko Album #2)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Club Penguin [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcAwHdg5Fo 1], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8wvaw0TF4 2], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNYPDR3qdtc 3], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzzKZpFekE 4].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/little-girls Little Girls]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8-joTfXdCo&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarson Funky Western Days]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX0oG9Q18D8&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarson Stay Tuned]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eKpZad8dKw Grave]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI8eId9vuz8&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarsonMusic Love Status]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yUawzIIrY&amp;amp;ab_channel=DanielLarsonOfficialMusic Fortnite Freestyle] &#039;&#039;&#039;(features heavy use of [[Daniel Larson&#039;s Racism|racial slurs]])&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jmBuS5hod0 MANIPULATOR]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXptfI5a6RU Chimi Changa]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== SoundCloud projects ==&lt;br /&gt;
These projects are a mix of &#039;unofficial&#039; (made by trolls) and &#039;official&#039; (endorsed by Daniel.){{Citation Needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-ep &#039;&#039;DANIEL LARSON EP&#039;&#039;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/cp-ep &#039;&#039;CP EP&#039;&#039;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-vs-the-world &#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Vs. The World&#039;&#039;] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/im-sorry-grace I’m Sorry, Grace]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/gambling-freedom &#039;&#039;Gambling (Freedom)&#039;&#039;]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/vlone-spit-feat-batman8142 Vlone Spit]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lost Music ==&lt;br /&gt;
These parts of Daniel&#039;s discography are considered [[Lost Media|lost media]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Platinum Elite Records|Superstar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohefsS1zGJU Hey There Delilah (copyright blocked)]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Big Bank Records|&#039;&#039;Pray 4 Denver (album)&#039;&#039;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Music_Career&amp;diff=21715</id>
		<title>Music Career</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Music_Career&amp;diff=21715"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T06:21:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Music Career to Musical Endeavors of Daniel Larson: cmon guys. Music career? gotta be a little more specific than that&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;This article discusses Daniel&#039;s music career as a whole. For his music releases, see [[Discography]].&#039;&#039;{{Sources}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Videos Need Archiving}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Something More cover.png|thumb|Cover for Something More.]]&lt;br /&gt;
One of [[Daniel Larson|Daniel&#039;s]] most pursued life-long aspirations (and delusions) is to become a world-famous singer. With the help of his mentor, [[Bob Proctor]], and occasionally [[Management|others]], Daniel has been able to produce multiple songs, although most of his [[discography]] has not been officially released. As of 2024, Daniel has published three official songs: &#039;&#039;[[Roaring Thunder]]&#039;&#039; (2021)&#039;&#039;, [[Something More]]&#039;&#039; (2022) and &#039;&#039;[[Merry Go Round]]&#039;&#039; (2023). &lt;br /&gt;
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The release of his music doesn&#039;t come without controversy, as it is believed that Daniel (or rather, Bob) simply buy the rights to a pre-existing song, providing nothing original except for vocals. It is also speculated that Daniel has not truly written any of the lyrics to his songs, given his limited vocabulary, which is most likely true given that most of Daniel&#039;s non-studio recorded songs are made by [[Management|managers]] who tell him what to say over a beat. The truth behind these allegations cannot be confirmed at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Daniel, it takes approximately two to four days to produce one song. The high cost of music production, in combination with his financial instability and [[Homeless Era|housing crisis]], has limited the amount of songs he&#039;s been able to create. From July 2021 to July 2022, Daniel claims to have made $400 from the song Roaring Thunder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&amp;amp;v=BnHMIG-xbyQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel has claimed multiple times that he is a world-famous singer, claiming in an [[Monkeyman Interview|interview with Monkeyman]] that he had 800 million to 1.2 billion fans of his music, although being obviously untrue, because if it were true, it would mean that 10% of the world&#039;s population would know who Daniel is, when they obviously don&#039;t. According to an interview with [[Luke]], Daniel genuinely believes he is a world-famous singer, mostly because he is regularly recognized in Denver. Luke says Daniel does not understand that he is infamous and no one genuinely likes his music, mainly due to his [[delusions]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DanielTheater.png|thumb|248x248px|Daniel seemed to be a passionate theater kid. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel&#039;s interest in music can be tracked back to his childhood. In his childhood, Daniel would be enrolled in several [[Musical Theater|musical theater productions]]. It in unclear who put him in these programs, but it is likely that his grandmother did, as she was the one who held custody over him during this time. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is also worth noting that his mother, [[Elisabeth Shimer]], had a keen interest in music. On her YouTube channel, she would share and post several covers of music. And just like her son, she shared delusions of having fans, although these delusions do not appear to be as severe as Daniel&#039;s. It is highly likely that this may have rubbed off on Daniel, as Elisabeth seemed to have an intense wants to be famous and have fans, going as far as attending photoshoots as if she was a real celebrity. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Musical Talent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Songwriting ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Unreleased lyrics.png|left|thumb|606x606px|Daniel shows off his songwriting prowess to an unknown individual.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In Daniel&#039;s CV, he mentions receiving voice lessons from someone named &amp;quot;Dulcimer,&amp;quot; although it is unclear who that is.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[:File:DanielMusicalPaper.png]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Most, if not all, of Daniel&#039;s songwriting output has been him singing over lyrics that are, more often than not, not written by him. Before any of his official musical releases, most of Daniel&#039;s songs were written by Daniel himself and with most help coming from [[Management|managers]], although their quality easily falls flat compared to his studio recorded songs. Daniel has written only a few truly original songs, but the results are riddled with multiple issues. &lt;br /&gt;
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Most of Daniel&#039;s lyrics appear to be somewhat autobiographical. The lyrics of &#039;&#039;Something More&#039;&#039; showed, although small, insight on Daniel&#039;s thought processes and struggles with schizophrenia, with its most quoted lyric being &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I&#039;m surrounded by people I don&#039;t see&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;. In his song, &#039;&#039;[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIBaMTLODM Grace and I Freestyle],&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIBaMTLODM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Daniel sings about his desire to date [[Grace VanderWaal]] and have sex with her even though at the time of release, she was still a [[Pedophilia|minor]]. This song very well aligns with his unbridled lust for her, and funnily enough, the most repeated lyric is &amp;quot;sex&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Secondly, Daniel shows an inability to understand the mood or context of songs. A good songwriter uses lyrics that reflect the music and paint an emotional picture, which Daniel is incapable of. This is most notably shown in Daniel&#039;s song, &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjmFJNj3DY Work],&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjmFJNj3DY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; where its themes are seemingly all over the place, switching from being a partial cover of &#039;&#039;Work&#039;&#039; by Rihanna, before abruptly switching to sexual innuendos and asking the listener to twerk. &lt;br /&gt;
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As talked about before, Daniel has a problem with repetition. In his song, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcA-kXaTt88 &#039;&#039;I Love Peanuts&#039;&#039;], the aforementioned phrase is repeated multiple times, lyrics barely ever changing. This is also shown in the song &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8Z65vfuXI STD Soaps],&#039;&#039; wherein Daniel repeats the phrase &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I got the STD soaps, that&#039;s why we&#039;re cleaning, that&#039;s why we&#039;re shovin&#039;, that&#039;s why we&#039;re coking up&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;. Lastly, in the song &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaP9-M57yRs Birthday Boy],&#039;&#039; Daniel repeats the lyrics &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I&#039;m a birthday boy, I&#039;m just working all day, and working all night&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;, (which is quite ironic as Daniel has not worked a day in his life) along with the lyrics &amp;quot;It&#039;s the start of my birthday celebration&amp;quot;. This would be fine if the instrumentals Daniels &amp;quot;sang&amp;quot; over weren&#039;t so repetitive, and if he actually changed up the lyrics once in a while.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even more, Daniel&#039;s attempts at figurative language fall flat. In &#039;&#039;[[Gang Life]],&#039;&#039; he boldly states &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;The bitch fell in love with me, pull her like a lasso, I nut on her face, turn that shit into a Picasso&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;. In &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UD9LpkxHbw Running From My Past],&#039;&#039; Daniel sings, &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;All the sins that move against me, move past, moving past&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I carry it up, like a past that I just forgot, and I carry you, like a weight on my jeans&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; which really begs the question as to what any of this means.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for Daniel&#039;s other songs, they are mostly him covering already existing songs, although Daniel insists that these are serious compositions and never once implies that the lyrics are in no way written by him. Most notably, Daniel&#039;s cover of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fKcf0BpwNY Wild Hearts] by [https://www.youtube.com/@KeithUrbanVEVO Keith Urban] (which was subsequently leaked by [[Flexburger]]), and his cover of [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q8AL01H5sJk Sex with Me]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q8AL01H5sJk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; by Rihanna, although the only notable change are the backing tracks/instrumentals. &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Singing ===&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel has a poor grasp on singing, which should be obvious given how much autotune and voice adjustment is used in his professionally recorded songs. Daniel, because of his delusions, has convinced himself that he is, in fact, a great singer who does not need any improvement in the field. &lt;br /&gt;
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His voice is unusually high-pitched, and often extremely quiet. He also speaks with rarely any emotion, almost always monotone. These issues with his voice show in full force whenever Daniel attempts to sing. In his song, &#039;&#039;I Love Peanuts&#039;&#039;, Daniel does not &amp;quot;sing&amp;quot; so much as yell over the track. At other times, Daniel&#039;s emotionless voice pulls back from the tempo and nature of the song. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is telling that not only does Daniel lack any sense of pitch in singing, but with melodies in general. This is evidenced in his cover of &#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqtKRLVe2jQ Old Town Road]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqtKRLVe2jQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; by Lil Nas X, where he (all but barely) tries to sing to the melody of it, but ends up with a wildly unrecognizable tune that only vaguely resembles the original song, which is only due to the backing track. And not even a minute in, Daniel completely abandons the original lyrics and begins singing about completely unrelated things.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Daniel attempts to do a cappella, his voice is severely out of tune and barely matches the melody he wants. Daniel has trouble with tempo and entries, often pushing ahead or pulls back from the tempo of the song, making the whole musical composition fall apart. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Recording Method and Equipment ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Recording studio booking.png|thumb|Daniel, announcing that he&#039;ll be booking another recording studio session.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Daniel&#039;s idea of making music is going to a recording studio in person and recording there, often deluded by ideas that he is a famous singer-songwriter, therefore he deserves to sing in a recording studio. This is odd, considering the huge losses in profit that come from it. More money (that [[Bob Proctor]] is spending, by the way) is spent booking and paying for these appointments than money earned from sales of Daniel&#039;s songs, which Daniel does not seem to understand at all, demanding this setup apart from others. Daniel is seemingly unaware of the incredible leaps and bounds that music recording has advanced and hasn&#039;t noticed that there are plenty of good multitrack sound editors available for free, and that going to a recording studio in person is not at all necessary. &lt;br /&gt;
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Even when Daniel does not record his music in a studio, the quality is abysmal as Daniel uses his phone (which are often cheap models for less than 200 dollars) to record himself singing, even though it&#039;s extremely easy to record and make music on your phone. &lt;br /&gt;
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There is always a huge quality loss when Daniel attempts to record on his phone, the audio being extremely hard to hear, most notably seen in &#039;&#039;Running from my Past,&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;:0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UD9LpkxHbw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; where Daniel is barely audible. The sound mixing on these songs could also use some work, as at most times, the instrumentals and backing tracks are always louder than Daniel&#039;s own voice.&lt;br /&gt;
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== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Music}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Daniel]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Lucas&amp;diff=21713</id>
		<title>Lucas</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Lucas&amp;diff=21713"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T06:08:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: /* Legal threats and Destruction of the DL Wiki */ reflects new move&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;Not to be confused with [[Luke]], a manager from 2022.&#039;&#039;{{Doxxing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Credibility|reason=Has a history of lying, impersonating others, false threats of legal action, and use of ad hominem attacks against those he dislikes}}{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|Lucas is a controversial figure in the Daniel Larson community and is aware of and critical of this page&#039;s existence. Due to this, this article is prone to vandalism. Trust only sourced claims, as some may be intentionally misleading.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|I&#039;m going to jump in front of train|author=Lucas, when confronted for enabling Daniel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|On the daniel larson wiki tried to help daniel out|author=Lucas&#039;s discord bio.}}{{Infobox|infoboxHeader=Lucas|image=LucasPic.png|imageDesc=Lucas&#039; passport photo|name=Lucas Sebastian Gunatilleke |Knownas=Lauren Albento, Lawrence, Luka Da Silva, Daniellarsonpredator|Alignment=Enabler|Nationality=British|Race=Sri Lankan|Gender=Male|Arcs=}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Lucas Sebastian Gunatilleke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.org/details/proposed-complaint-1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a lesser known [[Enablers|enabler]] and impersonator of [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]]. He is known to have had repeatedly stuck his neck out to defend Daniel from hate, stick up for his actions, paying for his Uber Eats and booking him motel rooms, and even going as far as attempting to get him off the streets using money gained from a GoFundMe. In December 2023, Lucas, while pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]], attempted to set up another [[Cameo Arc|Cameo]] account for Daniel, which led to him eventually being doxxed. &lt;br /&gt;
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He was able to fund money for Daniel through the creator fund on TikTok, and according to Lucas, he raised over $20,000 for Daniel. Following the [[Second Jail Arc]], Lucas went on an active impersonation spree, first impersonating [[Larsonleak|LarsonLeak]], and then Daniel. Lucas spends all day making TikTok accounts pretending to be Daniel, most notably one where he pretended to be Daniel while he was [[Daniel and the Law|incarcerated]]. Despite his accounts not being convincing at all, many fell for his ruse.   &lt;br /&gt;
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He also went under the name &amp;quot;Lauren Albento&amp;quot; on Discord, and would often brag, posting screenshots of how much money he made. Daniel would mention this account on multiple occasions, often mispronouncing his name as &amp;quot;Lawrence.&amp;quot;   &lt;br /&gt;
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In August 2024, Lucas became aware of this very article, sending vague legal threats to the admin whilst not taking any sort of legal action, claiming he was a victim of defamation and libel, and calling a wiki editor a racial slur.  &lt;br /&gt;
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His infamy has since peaked as of 2025, wherein he began sharing around PDF documents of supposed lawsuits he filed against figures in the Larsonverse and wiki editors, with him being the chief perpetuator of the [[destruction of the old wiki]].    &lt;br /&gt;
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==Discovery==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:LucasUbereatsorder.png|left|thumb|204x204px|UberEats order Lucas purchased for Daniel. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:LucasTrain.png|thumb|352x352px|Lucas, threatening to kill himself. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
On December 15th, 2023, Daniel created a new [[Cameo Arc|Cameo]] account under the name of &#039;&#039;Daniellarsonwork2024&#039;&#039;. This surprised many, as he had been previously banned from the service. In videos made from this time, Daniel claimed that &amp;quot;Grace&amp;quot; helped him get unbanned from Cameo.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.org/details/7313058506159050014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, this was merely Lucas impersonating Grace. Lucas used the TikTok account, @gracevanderwaaldenver, to gain Daniel&#039;s trust. Under the moniker of Grace, Lucas would post orders he&#039;d placed for Daniel via UberEats (and foolishly leaving his name in the video), as well as giving Daniel money for motels.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Lucas would also give Daniel money on his live streams, utterly unaware that Daniel could not collect any of this money because he did not have a viable PayPal acount to connect to his TikTok account. In a message on Reddit, Lucas claimed that he raised over $5,000 for Daniel via the TikTok creator fund, although the validity of this is unknown.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232919446298034197/1269079407507673169/image.jpg?ex=66b8a50d&amp;amp;is=66b7538d&amp;amp;hm=73e87063ee09c4a81eb9bd014290dad3b6a076f8b9ab30432163291a632abc30&amp;amp;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, on the 22nd of 2023, Lucas would start a GoFundMe in an attempt to raise money in hopes of getting Daniel off the streets before Christmas, listing his TikTok in the description of it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18ol83p/lucas_begging_for_money_on_his_tiktok/#lightbox&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The goal for this GoFundMe was 300 dollars, and the name it was listed under was &amp;quot;Luka Da Silva.&amp;quot; It is unclear as to why Lucas went under this name. But, this would eventually be used to find out his true identity. Daniel&#039;s new Cameo account would be quickly banned once more, and the GoFundMe failed. This fake Grace account was eventually looked into alongside a number of other accounts, including @Daniellarsonpredator and @Lukka.gg, were found. After being doxxed, many scrutinized Lucas for helping Daniel, especially in light of his [[Pedophilia|pedophilic behavior]].   &lt;br /&gt;
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After being doxxed, Lucas would release an apology on his TikTok account, posting black screens with text reading things such as &amp;quot;I am sorry for buying Daniel food,&amp;quot; as well as &amp;quot;surrendering&amp;quot; to those who had his personal information. Lucas offered $300 to not have any more of his information leaked, threatening to end his life.   &amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Apology1.png&lt;br /&gt;
File:Apology2.png&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;Soon after, Lucas would scrub his account pretending to be Grace VanderWaal of all of its content and deactivate @daniellarsonpredator.   &lt;br /&gt;
==TikTok Sockpuppet accounts==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:FakeLarsonleakaccount.png|thumb|288x288px|Lucas&#039; fake account impersonating LarsonLeak. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Starting in May 2024, Lucas would begin impersonating several people. The first of which was LarsonLeak, a YouTube channel run by Daniel&#039;s past manager, [[Flexburger]]. On May 3rd, Lucas was contacted by Flexburger, who politely asked him to change his account name, as he was completely unaffiliated with him, and did not want anyone to think that his account belonged to him, or anyone else who had collaborated with LarsonLeak. Lucas replied to this by saying, &amp;quot;Do you not have bigger things to worry about right now,&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
As of July 2024, the account has 90k followers.&lt;br /&gt;
In July, following the [[Second Jail Arc]], Lucas would create the account @daniellarsonprison2024.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e579bs/daniel_larson_prison_2024/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On this account, he would pretend to be Daniel while he was still in jail, post fake photos of his food, and making posts about his issues finding ways to keep his phone battery charged. This account was theorized to be Daniel&#039;s account, but it was quickly dismissed, as the account only reposted videos from the past. &lt;br /&gt;
==List of Sockpuppets==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+&lt;br /&gt;
!Username&lt;br /&gt;
!Time of Creation&lt;br /&gt;
!Notes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|@daniellarsonpredator&lt;br /&gt;
|December 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|Deactivated after being doxxed.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|@gracevanderwaaldenver&lt;br /&gt;
|December 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|Not active, content has been scrubbed - impersonating Grace VanderWaal&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|@lukka.gg&lt;br /&gt;
|December 2023&lt;br /&gt;
|Deactivated, scrubbed&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|@daniellarsonfree2024&lt;br /&gt;
|March 2024&lt;br /&gt;
|Currently active account, impersonating Daniel while he is incarcerated.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|@larsonleak&lt;br /&gt;
|May 2024&lt;br /&gt;
|Currently active account, impersonating [[Flexburger]] on TikTok.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Response to Article ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:SelfDefenseWord1.png|thumb|I suppose he isn&#039;t fond of [[Transgender|trance genders]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Shortly after his article was made, Lucas, on July 30th, 2024, created an account on this very Wiki. His first action in response to the article made about him was to attempt and vandalize it, before being banned by the abuse filter. &lt;br /&gt;
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On August 2nd, Lucas created a new topic on the Admin&#039;s talk page, demanding the article written about him be removed and making vague threats.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[User talk:Admin]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
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I’m requesting that you would please delete the page about me from this wiki. Numerous claims that are written on there are absolutely untrue. I do not run the TikTok account @daniellarsonprison2024 therefore when you are writing that ‘ The account has a fake cashtag in bio where he scams people for money ‘ you are falsely accusing me of fraud.&lt;br /&gt;
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As my full name is still logged in the page history this page appears when my name is searched into google which means any potential employers/universities are going to see your false claims. This is absolutely libel/defamation and if I am able to get your details from the domain registrar you are going to have a big problem.|author=Lucas}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:SelfDefenseWord2.png|left|thumb|321x321px|[[Porch Charging Incident|&amp;quot;Okay, nigger.&amp;quot;]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In response, the admin responded cordially, not deleting his article, instead choosing to hide the entire page history, and encouraging Lucas to remove any information he deemed to be defamatory. Following this, Lucas would remove a majority of information from his article, removing citations and images that substantiated claims made. In his edit history, he claimed these actions to be &amp;quot;factually correct.&amp;quot; In this revision of the article, it was stated that his reasoning for creating a GoFundMe for Daniel was because, &amp;quot;people wanted to see him die on the streets.&amp;quot; Not long after, this revision was undone, resulting in the admin reinstating Lucas&#039; previous edit. When questioned about this, they elaborated by saying that they were receiving threats of legal action from Lucas.  &lt;br /&gt;
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On August 3rd, Lucas messaged wiki editor KanamoriKamper, initiating the conversation by saying he &amp;quot;hated trannies,&amp;quot; and calling him the [[Self Defense Word|self-defense word]]. When asked on why he did so, Lucas pretended to be black, gave information about his employment at Uber, and continued to claim that he was being defamed by his inclusion on the wiki. Soon after, he explained his reasoning for interacting Daniel was to manipulate him for more content, further evidencing why he had an article made about him in the first place.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jcP-z58-7ulgv0ILRmN_1cFikUSuXWaz/view?usp=sharing (archive: https://files.catbox.moe/fk5pow.mov)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, this did not help his case at all. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Legal threats and URL Transfer ==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;See article: [[Daniel Larson Wiki URL Transfer]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Daniel_Larson_Wiki_URL_Transfer&amp;diff=21712</id>
		<title>Daniel Larson Wiki URL Transfer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Daniel_Larson_Wiki_URL_Transfer&amp;diff=21712"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T01:01:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:404NotFound.png|thumb|Damn it, Bob! You just had to burn down The Great Library of Alexandria, didn’t you?]]&lt;br /&gt;
On January 30, 2025, the &#039;&#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Wiki&#039;&#039;&#039; (Domain name https://daniellarson.wiki/), hosted by [[User:Admin|the previous admin]], suddenly turned up under the &amp;quot;404 Not Found&amp;quot; error when accessed by Larstorians and passive observers alike. Initially, it was believed to be a result of the wiki&#039;s bandwidth limit having been exceeded, as it had happened in the past. However, it soon became clear that this was not the case—the wiki had been entirely deleted. Upon notice, users took to the Reddit to express their grief, as the Wiki had served as a comprehensive, neutral overlook of Larson&#039;s life, and it&#039;s perceived permanent deletion was seen as an ironic parallel to the burning of the Library of Alexandria.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1iejfy8/regarding_the_wiki/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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While the exact reason for the wiki&#039;s deletion remains unclear, it is widely believed that it happened as a direct response to legal threats from [[Lucas|Lucas Gunatilleke]], a past enabler of [[Daniel Larson|Daniel Larson.]] In 2023, [[Lucas]] began interacting with [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]], engaging in actions such as buying him motel rooms and food, pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]] to gain his trust, among many other things. This plummeted his popularity among the wider Larsonverse, leading to him being doxxed. Shortly after, an article about him was added to the wiki by editor KanamoriKamper.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lucas eventually realized that the wiki was documenting his actions, and in August 2024, he allegedly sent a cease and desist letter to the old wiki admin while also directing racist and transphobic slurs at KanamoriKamper. However, since he did not file any paperwork or present proof of such, the wiki staff called him on his bluff, and Lucas retreated for the rest of 2024. Despite this, Lucas did not stop. Lucas began to up his efforts to wipe documentation of himself from the internet in January 2025. He filed a motion to intervene in Werling v. Menne, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.org/details/lucas-motion&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the lawsuit [[Lil Sippy]] filed against [[Clark]], filed a lawsuit against KanamoriKamper&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.org/details/proposed-complaint-1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and reportedly also sent more concrete legal threats to the old wiki admin.&lt;br /&gt;
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An argument broke out on his account&#039;s talk page between him and several editors, and shortly after, he joined the wiki’s Discord to provide his side. He argued with wiki editors in several channels, denying his actions despite extensive documentation and denying Daniel Larson&#039;s well-recorded pedophilic habits.&lt;br /&gt;
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This came to a head on January 30, 2025, as Lucas shared PDFs of his legal documents with wiki editors. While most editors regarded this as a bluff—pointing out misspelled terms and the absence of KanamoriKamper&#039;s actual legal name on the documents—the former wiki admin was believed to have taken the threat seriously. Later that day, in the early hours of the morning, the wiki was deleted.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1ie7aso/wiki_down_emergency_code_red/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confusion spread throughout the Larsonverse and various non-wiki editor members tried to figure out what happened. However, on the wiki Discord, editors began discussing a solution to the problem. Discord member zzyil/Aviv promptly began hosting a the wiki on a new website (Domain name https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/, where you are now). This new wiki was launched with an archive from January 2025. While user accounts were not transferred, everything else has been restored.&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Deletion_of_the_Daniel_Larson_Wiki&amp;diff=21711</id>
		<title>Deletion of the Daniel Larson Wiki</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Deletion_of_the_Daniel_Larson_Wiki&amp;diff=21711"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T00:54:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Deletion of the Daniel Larson Wiki to Daniel Larson Wiki URL Transfer: this title feels more fitting sense the wiki wasnt really deleted, and its a little more encyclopedic. but obviously this might be hasty.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Daniel Larson Wiki URL Transfer]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Fingerswab</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Daniel_Larson_Wiki_URL_Transfer&amp;diff=21710</id>
		<title>Daniel Larson Wiki URL Transfer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/index.php?title=Daniel_Larson_Wiki_URL_Transfer&amp;diff=21710"/>
		<updated>2025-03-07T00:54:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fingerswab: Fingerswab moved page Deletion of the Daniel Larson Wiki to Daniel Larson Wiki URL Transfer: this title feels more fitting sense the wiki wasnt really deleted, and its a little more encyclopedic. but obviously this might be hasty.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:404NotFound.png|thumb|Damn it, Bob! You just had to burn down The Great Library of Alexandria, didn’t you?]]&lt;br /&gt;
On January 30, 2025, the &#039;&#039;&#039;Daniel Larson Wiki&#039;&#039;&#039; (Domain name https://daniellarson.wiki/), hosted by [[User:Admin|the previous admin]], suddenly turned up under the &amp;quot;404 Not Found&amp;quot; error when accessed by Larstorians and passive observers alike. Initially, it was believed to be a result of the wiki&#039;s bandwidth limit having been exceeded, as it had happened in the past. However, it soon became clear that this was not the case—the wiki had been entirely deleted. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While the exact reason for the wiki&#039;s deletion remains unclear, it is widely believed that it happened as a direct response to legal threats from [[Lucas|Lucas Gunatilleke]], a past enabler of [[Daniel Larson|Daniel Larson.]] In 2023, [[Lucas]] began interacting with [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]], engaging in actions such as buying him motel rooms and food, pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]] to gain his trust, among many other things. This plummeted his popularity among the wider Larsonverse, leading to him being doxxed. Shortly after, an article about him was added to the wiki by editor KanamoriKamper.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lucas eventually realized that the wiki was documenting his actions, and in August 2024, he allegedly sent a cease and desist letter to the old wiki admin while also directing racist and transphobic slurs at KanamoriKamper. However, since he did not file any paperwork or present proof of such, the wiki staff called him on his bluff, and Lucas retreated for the rest of 2024. Despite this, Lucas did not stop. Lucas began to up his efforts to wipe documentation of himself from the internet in January 2025. He filed a motion to intervene in Werling v. Menne, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.org/details/lucas-motion&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the lawsuit [[Lil Sippy]] filed against [[Clark]], filed a lawsuit against KanamoriKamper&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://archive.org/details/proposed-complaint-1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and reportedly also sent more concrete legal threats to the old wiki admin.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
An argument broke out on his account&#039;s talk page between him and several editors, and shortly after, he joined the wiki’s Discord to provide his side. He argued with wiki editors in several channels, denying his actions despite extensive documentation and denying Daniel Larson&#039;s well-recorded pedophilic habits.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This came to a head on January 30, 2025, as Lucas shared PDFs of his legal documents with wiki editors. While most editors regarded this as a bluff—pointing out misspelled terms and the absence of KanamoriKamper&#039;s actual legal name on the documents—the former wiki admin was believed to have taken the threat seriously. Later that day, in the early hours of the morning, the wiki was deleted.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1ie7aso/wiki_down_emergency_code_red/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Confusion spread throughout the Larsonverse and various non-wiki editor members tried to figure out what happened. However, on the wiki Discord, editors began discussing a solution to the problem. Discord member zzyil/Aviv promptly began hosting a the wiki on a new website (Domain name https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/, where you are now). This new wiki was launched with an archive from January 2025. While user accounts were not transferred, everything else has been restored.&lt;br /&gt;
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