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Pink Room Arc

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'''The Pink Room''' is a pink-colored room in which [[Daniel Larson]] resided from July 10 to September 14, 2021 during the [[Hype House Arc]]. His stay in this room was quite brief due to him repeatedly damaging the walls of the room by kicking, punching, and banging his head against them. In videos of the aftermath, drywall debris is seen scattered all over the floor. Daniel posted the [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p0sahl/okay_this_is_actually_breaking_my_heart_his/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf aftermath of his destruction] on his TikTok, where he was sobbing while filming the wreckage of the room. This video was ominously captioned, “Tonight is the end everyone.”

Daniel moved into the Pink Room about two weeks after the [[Likee Meltdown]]. While it cannot be confirmed, it is most likely believed that the incident played a role in Daniel being relocated. The Pink Room is also notable for the several bizarre and sexually suggestive videos that surfaced during Daniel's time there, most notably the [[Pencil Incident]] and [[the Toothbrush Incident]], which are both part of the larger [[The Flexburger Leaks|Flexburger leaks]]. Daniel destroyed the Pink Room on August 10, 2021 however managed to stay until [[Gavin]] moved in. He moved into a new bedroom until fleeing the house on December 1, 2021.

== Videos ==

There are many notable videos that took place in the pink room.

=== Black Lives Matter ===

{{Quote|Hello everyone, this is Daniel Larson, I stand with black lives matter...I hate crackas'}}

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=== Holes in the wall ===

Daniel made many holes in the wall of his pink room. In one video, the entire extent of damage is visible.

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In one video he "explains" his reasonings, which is that no one believes him.

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This is what happens when you're so tired and the world's coming to an end and you think, wait a minute, what did I do again? But you were literally drunk a couple nights ago and it doesn't help when no one believes your own career. Nobody believes that I am famous. No one believes the issues that I have at Walmart. No one believes. My provider told me to go to Walmart and that I wasn't banned. I take one step to Walmart and they call the police on me and when I try to explain, I get called a liar. But this is what happens when no one believes you. No one listens to you. It makes you feel like a terrible person. It makes you feel like you don't belong. I have mental health issues, but it doesn't help when people don't listen to me and take no for an answer. I only try and I'll continue to try, but it doesn't help at all when no one believes my own success. This is what happens.
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=== Collection ===

On September 15, 2022, The Daniel Larson Curator uploaded a video containing some TikTok/YouTube that took place in the pink room.

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Tina VanderWaal

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{{Doxxing}}
{{Contact|Although Tina has passed away, she and the family made it clear multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. They have dealt with Daniel's harassment for years.|subject=any of the VanderWaal family members}}
{{Quote|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.|4=Tina, in response to a myriad of messages from Daniel}}
'''Tina Marie VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972 - October 20, 2025)<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> was the mother of the singer-songwriter [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] stalked and harassed due to his belief that they were in a romantic relationship.

Tina has had multiple correspondence with Daniel over both Instagram and YouTube, making it clear that neither she, Grace or their family want anything to do with him and advising him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help.]] These attempts to get Daniel to leave Grace alone were ultimately fruitless, mainly due to a combination of being fed lies by trolls impersonating Tina, and his absolute refusal to admit that the VanderWaals are not in his life.

Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a years long battle with breast cancer.

== Prior Events ==
Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violated a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]

== DMs with Daniel ==
On or around July 23, 2022, Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace. The "Graces" in question were actually catfishes made up by trolls.

Daniel asked Tina to reply as soon as possible.

{{Quote|Please message me as soon as you can}}

She responded the next morning firmly, saying:

{{Quote|"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "}}

Daniel would respond idiotically, trying to make Tina feel bad for him, saying:

{{Quote|"I understand

I'm ending my life tonight

Everyone has messed up everything.

I understand what you and your family-"}}

The rest of his message is cut off. Daniel obviously did not stop talking about Grace after this.

Daniel would mention this comment in the first call during [[Jail Arc 2]].

== YouTube Comment ==
On August 13, 2022, the YouTube account [https://www.youtube.com/@waalstudio_art "Waal Studio"] left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago; however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. Frustrated, she warns Daniel once again to stop mentioning Grace (and her family), stating that the other accounts under her name are trolls.
{{Quote|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}}

This comment also refers to the incident mentioned above, where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts.

Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded to one reply, which was Daniel asking:

{{Quote|"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"}}

Tina's response is far from unpredictable.

{{Quote|"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."}}

Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens of times. They were ignored by Tina.

{{Quote|"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused

I am willing to keep trying but I would have to start new. I hope you understand

I am so sorry for everything"}}

== Contact with Fan ==
On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram, asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he was talking about Grace a lot and had delusions that he would definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>
{{Quote|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}}

Tina replied that evening.

{{Quote|Yes I am}}

The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read and did not reply to the message.

== Second YouTube Video ==

On March 26, 2023, 7 months after Tina's last response, Daniel Larson NYC posted a short titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." He says that Tina and Dave told him he was safe from the FBI and police if he stayed in contact with them. However, Tina, using the Waal Studio account, is clearly angry and scolds him to stop talking about the family once again with the threat of being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> It is also possible she was warned about Daniel making a trip to New York City in the coming weeks, for fear he would find Grace.
{{Quote|"Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.

Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense."}}

Daniel would reply 10 times, begging her for a second chance. These were ignored.

{{Quote|"Please help I really really am trying. Please just understand this is serious and I just want you to understand what I am going through. Please give me a chance. I turned of my TikTok comments. I can't stop crying today"}}

== YouTube Community Tab Posts ==

=== First Interaction ===

On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help with donations, using a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:
{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}

Daniel would reply dozens of times, ignoring the severity of the situation. He would make similar posts later that day.

{{Quote|Thank you Tina I'm on your side. The fans don't listen to me at all and everything about me is not true I need your help. I don't know what to do I'm becoming very very upset. Tina how can I help right now this is extremely serious and is ruining everything in my life? I'm sorry too!!! The trolls are a very big problem and all I care about was talking to Tina in person to try to figure out how to stop the trolls are impersonators! I do care about this issue and everyone saying that I am just for grace is lying. It's not helping. I have called the FBI on the trolls and impersonators and I don't know how bad this is getting. All I want is a chance to be heard}}

However, after multiple comments, Daniel replied to another user saying he is sorry for Tina and her family. Tina replied, telling Daniel to take control of his life.

{{Quote|"you can go back to Denver and live your life. Get a job and pay your bills without begging from trolls that only want to see you do things that will causes you harm. You need to get counseling and medication so you see reality."}}

Daniel protested, claiming he was misled by others, apologizing, and insisting he was only trying to help despite the seriousness of the situation.

{{Quote|" Tina I am extremely sorry you are grace have to put up with this. I just called Bob my mentor and he sounds very confused. All I want to do is help. Waal Studio I don't think you understand. I've tried to contact you but Ivan told me that you were a troll. This is serious you don't even know anything about me yet. I am very serious about this Tina and I don't know what to do! Ivan forced me to block you last time I tried to contact you. I tried to explain and Ivan told me to block everyone and that he would tell my public defender."}}

Tina replied once again, trying to give him a reality check.

{{Quote|"I know all I need to know Daniel. You don’t have fans, you’re not famous, you are struggling to get by in life, you have anger management problems, you are unstable and need help. These are facts that everyone sees but you. I know who you are Daniel. Stop this today."}}

Daniel replied multiple times, threatening suicide to make Tina feel bad for him.

{{Quote|"My music sales are going down. I can't make a living and Ivan is threatening me over grace. I will jump off a bridge over this. I mean no harm at all. I never wanted to make things worse. I will end my career over this if I can't be heard. I hit Bob because he wasn't listening to me and everyone thought things were a joke. I have gone to far. I'm sorry Tina but I need you to believe me because I am serious I don't know what to do because I have people after me for no reason. I made the holes in the wall because I knew how to contact you all along but everyone was saying that I was wrong. I had to fight for me to be here today it could be a lot worse. What do I need to do to prove to you I care about this."}}

Tina ignored all these comments.

=== Final Interaction ===

On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025.
{{Quote|"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."}}

Daniel did not reply to her comment.

Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still frequently mentions Tina and Grace, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina wanted absolutely nothing to do with him at all.

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Tina VanderWaal

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{{Doxxing}}
{{Contact|Although Tina has passed away, she and the family made it clear multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. They have dealt with Daniel's harassment for years.|subject=any of the VanderWaal family members}}
{{Quote|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.|4=Tina, in response to a myriad of messages from Daniel}}

{{InfoboxPerson
| Name = Tina Marie VanderWaal
| Date of Birth = February 22, 1972
| Date of Death = October 20, 2025 (age 73)
| Children = [[Grace VanderWaal]]
}}'''Tina Marie VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972 - October 20, 2025)<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> was the mother of the singer-songwriter [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] stalked and harassed due to his belief that they were in a romantic relationship.

Tina has had multiple correspondence with Daniel over both Instagram and YouTube, making it clear that neither she, Grace or their family want anything to do with him and advising him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help.]] These attempts to get Daniel to leave Grace alone were ultimately fruitless, mainly due to a combination of being fed lies by trolls impersonating Tina, and his absolute refusal to admit that the VanderWaals are not in his life.

Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a years long battle with breast cancer.

== Prior Events ==
Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violated a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]

== DMs with Daniel ==
On or around July 23, 2022, Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace. The "Graces" in question were actually catfishes made up by trolls.

Daniel asked Tina to reply as soon as possible.

{{Quote|Please message me as soon as you can}}

She responded the next morning firmly, saying:

{{Quote|"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "}}

Daniel would respond idiotically, trying to make Tina feel bad for him, saying:

{{Quote|"I understand

I'm ending my life tonight

Everyone has messed up everything.

I understand what you and your family-"}}

The rest of his message is cut off. Daniel obviously did not stop talking about Grace after this.

Daniel would mention this comment in the first call during [[Jail Arc 2]].

== YouTube Comment ==
On August 13, 2022, the YouTube account [https://www.youtube.com/@waalstudio_art "Waal Studio"] left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago; however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. Frustrated, she warns Daniel once again to stop mentioning Grace (and her family), stating that the other accounts under her name are trolls.
{{Quote|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}}

This comment also refers to the incident mentioned above, where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts.

Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded to one reply, which was Daniel asking:

{{Quote|"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"}}

Tina's response is far from unpredictable.

{{Quote|"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."}}

Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens of times. They were ignored by Tina.

{{Quote|"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused

I am willing to keep trying but I would have to start new. I hope you understand

I am so sorry for everything"}}

== Contact with Fan ==
On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram, asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he was talking about Grace a lot and had delusions that he would definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>
{{Quote|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}}

Tina replied that evening.

{{Quote|Yes I am}}

The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read and did not reply to the message.

== Second YouTube Video ==

On March 26, 2023, 7 months after Tina's last response, Daniel Larson NYC posted a short titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." He says that Tina and Dave told him he was safe from the FBI and police if he stayed in contact with them. However, Tina, using the Waal Studio account, is clearly angry and scolds him to stop talking about the family once again with the threat of being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> It is also possible she was warned about Daniel making a trip to New York City in the coming weeks, for fear he would find Grace.
{{Quote|"Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.

Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense."}}

Daniel would reply 10 times, begging her for a second chance. These were ignored.

{{Quote|"Please help I really really am trying. Please just understand this is serious and I just want you to understand what I am going through. Please give me a chance. I turned of my TikTok comments. I can't stop crying today"}}

== YouTube Community Tab Posts ==

=== First Interaction ===

On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help with donations, using a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:
{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}

Daniel would reply dozens of times, ignoring the severity of the situation. He would make similar posts later that day.

{{Quote|Thank you Tina I'm on your side. The fans don't listen to me at all and everything about me is not true I need your help. I don't know what to do I'm becoming very very upset. Tina how can I help right now this is extremely serious and is ruining everything in my life? I'm sorry too!!! The trolls are a very big problem and all I care about was talking to Tina in person to try to figure out how to stop the trolls are impersonators! I do care about this issue and everyone saying that I am just for grace is lying. It's not helping. I have called the FBI on the trolls and impersonators and I don't know how bad this is getting. All I want is a chance to be heard}}

However, after multiple comments, Daniel replied to another user saying he is sorry for Tina and her family. Tina replied, telling Daniel to take control of his life.

{{Quote|"you can go back to Denver and live your life. Get a job and pay your bills without begging from trolls that only want to see you do things that will causes you harm. You need to get counseling and medication so you see reality."}}

Daniel protested, claiming he was misled by others, apologizing, and insisting he was only trying to help despite the seriousness of the situation.

{{Quote|" Tina I am extremely sorry you are grace have to put up with this. I just called Bob my mentor and he sounds very confused. All I want to do is help. Waal Studio I don't think you understand. I've tried to contact you but Ivan told me that you were a troll. This is serious you don't even know anything about me yet. I am very serious about this Tina and I don't know what to do! Ivan forced me to block you last time I tried to contact you. I tried to explain and Ivan told me to block everyone and that he would tell my public defender."}}

Tina replied once again, trying to give him a reality check.

{{Quote|"I know all I need to know Daniel. You don’t have fans, you’re not famous, you are struggling to get by in life, you have anger management problems, you are unstable and need help. These are facts that everyone sees but you. I know who you are Daniel. Stop this today."}}

Daniel replied multiple times, threatening suicide to make Tina feel bad for him.

{{Quote|"My music sales are going down. I can't make a living and Ivan is threatening me over grace. I will jump off a bridge over this. I mean no harm at all. I never wanted to make things worse. I will end my career over this if I can't be heard. I hit Bob because he wasn't listening to me and everyone thought things were a joke. I have gone to far. I'm sorry Tina but I need you to believe me because I am serious I don't know what to do because I have people after me for no reason. I made the holes in the wall because I knew how to contact you all along but everyone was saying that I was wrong. I had to fight for me to be here today it could be a lot worse. What do I need to do to prove to you I care about this."}}

Tina ignored all these comments.

=== Final Interaction ===

On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025.
{{Quote|"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."}}

Daniel did not reply to her comment.

Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still frequently mentions Tina and Grace, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina wanted absolutely nothing to do with him at all.

== References ==

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'''Robert "Bob" Proctor''' is an elderly man and philanthropist known for his close association with [[Daniel Larson|Daniel Larson,]] and is arguably one of the most important figures in his life. Bob assumed the impossible role in becoming Daniel's guardian and "mentor," an undertaking exposing him to the full extent of Daniel's [[December 10th Incident|anger management issues]]. He is also known for being involved in some of the most infamous incidents, particularly the [[December 10th Incident|December 10th]] and [[August 31st Incident]]<nowiki/>s. Bob also served as a frequent scapegoat to blame whenever Daniel needed one, as well as a player in Daniel's delusions, as trolls would constantly impersonate him to gain influence over him.

Bob has also served as a patron of Daniel's music career, financing the production of his most famous song, [[Music Career|"Roaring Thunder,"]] and encouraged his further musical endeavors. Despite this support, Daniel has done nothing but take his generosity for granted by frequently [[Big Dick Muscle Man Incident|getting into arguments with him]], [[August 31st Incident|assaulting him]], and misusing and wasting away the money that he gave him, [[Daniel Larson's health|at one point even buying a fleshlight with money Bob had given him to spend on essentials.]]

Bob is keenly aware of Daniel's social media activity and, consequently, has repeatedly requested Daniel not to film or record him, citing concerns about potential harassment from [[trolls|trolls.]] At one point, Bob even asked Daniel to refrain from using his phone altogether due to his irresponsible behavior online. Obviously, Daniel has not respected these wishes, once even getting into a physical altercation with Bob which ended up in the authorities having to be called.<ref>[[August 31st Incident]]</ref>

On Christmas 2023, Bob reportedly ceased providing financial support to Daniel and was believed to have cut off Daniel permanently. However, during the start of the [[Second Jail Arc]] it was revealed by [[Flexburger]] that Bob was back in contact with Daniel, and every time Daniel mentioned him after Christmas 2023 was geniune. Following Daniel's arrest on 30 April 2024 and his subsequent [[Second Jail Arc|incarceration]], Bob had sporadic contact with Daniel over text messages. In January 2026, Bob was set to testify in Daniel's federal case.

== Biography ==
[[File:Maryannproctor.png|left|thumb|303x303px|Bob's late wife, MaryAnn Proctor. ]]
It is unclear where Bob works. According to Daniel, Bob works, or at the very least ''has'' worked, in the medical field. While confirmation on his occupation is inconclusive, it can be inferred that from Bob's ability to sponsor Daniel the way he did, he most likely had a very high paying job. Daniel has also claimed that Bob has a bad reputation at his workplace due to their relationship.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JYyp8Ech9E&list=PLYpqXVHE5P7CikTuzPzzIsmp8hQM7OViD&index=3</ref><ref>[[:File:BobMedicalField.png]]</ref>

However, it is known that Bob, as well as his wife, MaryAnn Proctor (March 31, 1954 - December 30, 2014),<ref>https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/wheat-ridge-co/maryann-proctor-6261164</ref> were outspoken philanthropists and frequently helped disabled people throughout their lifetimes. Bob is known to have spent over 20 years donating to the [[Tennyson Center]], as well as other charities for the disabled.<ref>https://www.tennysoncenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2016-Annual-Report.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.tennysoncenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2021-Annual-Report.pdf</ref> Bob's wife, MaryAnn, was a known member of the West Chamber Youth Leadership, another nonprofit organization that helped young people. Bob also has two step-children, Jason and Jonathan Shroud. By the time Bob married MaryAnn, the two were already adults. It is unclear what relationship Bob shares with his children. But, it is safe to assume that he most likely does not play an active part in their lives. Jason is said to have served in the Iraq War.<ref>[[:File:BobsSonJason.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:JasonIraqWar.png]]</ref>
[[File:BobBench.png|thumb|Bob, pictured near the bench dedicated to his late wife. ]]
In 2014, MaryAnn would unfortunately pass away whilst undergoing a angioplasty. Her funeral was held at the Green Mountain United Methodist Church.<ref>https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/wheat-ridge-co/maryann-proctor-6261164</ref> West Chamber would also raise money to dedicate a park bench to her at the Golden Hill Business Center and unveiled it June 22, 2015. Bob was pictured at this park bench.<ref>https://coloradocommunitymedia.com/2015/06/30/west-chamber-honors-mary-ann-proctor-with-memorial-bench/</ref>

Most likely through his connections as a frequent donor, Bob and Daniel met at the Tennyson Center through a program called "Reading Buddies." According to Daniel, the time he spent with Bob mainly consisted of playing boards games together and reading.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref>

=== Poor Health, and Speculated Cancer ===
{{Quote|I don't want to die, but who knows. You and your social media don't want to believe the cancer either.|Bob, to Daniel <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/181ljgp/exclusive_bob_doesnt_want_to_die/</ref>}}
[[File:Bob in his car.png|alt=Bob Proctor in his car with Daniel Larson.|thumb|Bob in his car.]]
It is speculated that Bob has cancer, although what type of cancer is unknown, and the validity of him having the illness at all is debated extensively. Daniel, in a YouTube comment, claims that Bob was, "...confirmed to not have cancer or if he did he is using that now as a way to manipulate". Daniel, like with many things, likes to go back and forth on whether Bobs cancer is true or not.

However, it should be noted that Daniel has a record of saying extremities and various ridiculous things to gain attention, but if this is true, it also confirms that for the majority of their interactions, Daniel has been harassing a man who is dying of cancer for money and various other items, which is utterly uncaring of his illness. <gallery>
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== Relationships ==

=== Nancy ===
''Main Article: [[Nancy Shimer]]''

While not much is known about their relationship, Daniel's grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]], developed a friendship with Bob. It is theorized that Nancy and Bob could have had a romantic relationship; however, this claim is unsubstantiated and is most likely not true. Their friendship grew during the time Bob would play board games and spend so much time with Daniel such that when Nancy was on her inevitable deathbed due to cancer one of her last wishes was for Bob to take care of Daniel when she was not there. Being the bleeding heart liberal he was, Bob took on the responsibility to caring for Daniel, a burden that he could not carry.

It is also theorized that Nancy put Bob in charge of some sort of bank account or trust fund that she had left Daniel after she passed. This is speculated as a reason why Bob did not leave Daniel almost immediately after his violent outbursts; although, this is most likely false until further confirmation.

=== Daniel ===
[[File:I Can Count The Pixels.png|thumb|Bob and Daniel at a Bowling Alley.]]
''Main Article: [[Daniel Larson]]''

Bob has been acquainted with Daniel since his formative years, and it is likely that he is the only genuine father figure Daniel has ever had, especially after Daniel's own [[Travis Larson|father]] disowned him due to his outbursts.

Daniel and Bob first came into contact through a reading buddy program at the [[Tennyson Center]], a facility Daniel went for schooling and living in his teens, during a time when he was still recovering from his parents' abuse. While living at the Tennyson Center (at the time of an ongoing custody battle), Daniel had the opportunity to attend a reading buddy program once a week. Daniel reports that he and Bob, ". . .really hit it off," enough that the Tennyson Center permitted them to have a relationship outside their program. Ever since their initial meeting, Bob became a "mentor" to Daniel; although, his abilities at mentoring Daniel are dubious to say the least. After Nancy's death, however, Bob formed more of a fatherly bond with Daniel. Having no biological children of his own and little to no association with his stepchildren, it is likely that Bob sees Daniel as something of a son.
[[File:BobRetirementDebt.png|left|thumb|A conversation between Daniel and Bob.]]
Despite his alleged profession in the medical field, Bob obviously has no idea how to handle a very mentally disturbed person such as Daniel. As mentioned in the [[Caretaker Call]] (even while considering its questionable validity), while Bob obviously has lots of care for Daniel, he has no idea how to deal with a person a [[Daniel Larson's health|pathology]] as severe as Daniel's. This has, obviously, not been in his favor, because of Daniel's schizophrenia and autism, they have had many fights that have resulted in Bob having to call the police to deescalate the situation. This is evident in the [[December 10th Incident|December 10th Incident,]] where Daniel had an aggressive meltdown in Bob's car where he physically assaults him multiple times. However, one of the most notable incidents between them where they do not have any sort of physical altercation is the [[Big Dick Muscle Man Incident]] where Bob refers to American social media personality [[Jacob Sartorius]] as "Big Dick Muscle Man", in between Daniel arguing with Bob about the validity of his delusions, and, oddly, the size of his own penis.

Despite Bob’s issues with Daniel, he has continued to support him. After Daniel broke his phone during his [[Travel Arc|world tour]] in Texas, Bob bought Daniel a new one. However, Daniel has remained consistently ungrateful treating Bob as more of a paypig than a person. Bob has funded many of Daniels endeavors, most notably his career as a singer-songwriter, funding studio sessions to record songs such as [[Roaring Thunder]] and [[Something More]].

Prior to this, it was unknown as to how much money Bob was giving Daniel. On November 27, 2023, it was revealed that Bob was giving Daniel nearly 1000 dollars per month, which left him in a position where he only had the income leftover in his retirement account, along with having to figure out how to live while on social security.

On [[August 31st Incident|August 31, 2023]], Daniel and Bob were involved in another physical altercation after Daniel refused to put his phone away. Following this, Bob rarely had contact with Daniel, and on [[Christmas Day Meltdown|December 25, 2023]], called a wellness check on him. The officers called Daniel and said that Bob was fine but wanted a break from him. Nonetheless, Daniel had a meltdown that night.

== Alleged Death ==
[[File:BobMemorial.png|thumb|400x400px|"May Robert rest peacefully now. He is survived by his son Jason Proctor and his friend Daniel Larson"]]
On December 11, 2023, a [[Trolls|troll]] pretending to be a nurse under the name Lucy commented in the community tab under Daniel's account that Bob had suffered a heart attack and died at 2:03 AM.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxWCZ-xKpqgjBCFzKzaHurtK4WZum8b-ym</ref> Daniel seemed to believe this for the most part. In his "grief", Daniel had also posted a memorial of Bob on his community tab.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-2xDheSLpYFUrqT2rz1_6w/community?lb=UgkxHMj-U_lM4GZtfX3tm3fQb6wRXWI4YQ4o</ref>
{{Quote|In memory of Robert proctor. We will always miss you. The impact you made in the world was loving and kind 💞 RIP godfather 💖😉}}
Despite this being the first instance of Daniel calling him a godfather, just like [[Nancy Shimer|his grandmother]], Daniel obviously did not care very much about the supposed passing of his friend. Bob, if anything, was nothing more than a wallet to Daniel, who was there to give him money and nothing more.

== False End ==
From late November 2023, Bob appeared to have finally cut off Daniel ''for good'', following years of abusive behavior from him, the driving influence behind his decision being his continuing lack of money, causing an inability to support Daniel any longer. However, the community would come to realize that [[Jail Arc 2|Bob had been speaking with Daniel all this time.]]

=== Christmas 2023 ===
''Main article: [[Christmas Day Meltdown]]''

Unsurprisingly, Daniel's [[The Golden Hotel Incident|antics]] would leave him on the streets for Christmas once again. On December 25, 2023, Daniel, "wishing to take bob out to dinner",<ref>[[Media:Christmas2023YTComments.png]]</ref> called a wellness check on Bob. The officer confirmed to Daniel that Bob was, in fact, still alive and not dead. <ref>https://archive.org/details/7316644773371120938</ref>

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[[File:ChristmasGift.png|thumb|''"How can I give my present to Bob if he isn't meeting up with me for Christmas"'']]
Daniel tried to get Bob to talk to him in various ways, but as the night progressed it became clear that Bob would not give in. Daniel grew angrier at Bob, partially fueled with how cold it was and being forced on the streets after being trespassed from another motel. Daniel would continue to post many frantic videos that were quickly removed / deleted. The removal of the videos made archival more difficult.

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=== Fake Bob interaction ===

On December 26, 2023 Daniel falls for a troll pretending to be Bob in his YouTube community comments after the troll apologizes for everything. Most of the conversation is Daniel attempting to get "Bob" to call or text him as well as pleads for help. After many comments going back and forth and Daniel growing more frustrated, Daniel eventually caught on to something being wrong and deleted all of the threads.

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File:FakeBobSaysDanielsWelcome.png||Daniel not comfortable just randomly showing up at Bob's
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== Texts with Clark ==
As revealed by Flexburger in his video on Daniel, Clark, Daniel's manager at the time, had been in contact with Bob Proctor. Bob himself had thought that Clark was indeed a friend and a manager of Daniel, despite Clark admitting otherwise in the end. Not only this, but according to Clark, Bob had always been in contact with Daniel even with the Christmas Day Meltdown in mind; only cutting contact with Daniel to then try and take a break from him.

There is a likely chance that Bob is still in contact with Daniel even while he is in jail, showing that Bob's bleeding liberal heart can not bring himself to truly cut off Daniel unless he were to die or if another party stepped in.<gallery caption="Bob's texts with Clark">
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== External Links ==
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==References==
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[[File:August3DanielSighting.png|thumb|The first post-jail sighting of Daniel.]]
On July 21, 2026, [[Daniel Larson]] was [[Second Jail Arc#Sentencing and Release|sentenced]] to time served by judge Regina M. Rodriguez, after being incarcerated for a total run of 2 years, 2 months, and 21 days under charges of making threats towards [[Daniel MacDougall|government officials]] and buildings. The next day, our future [[Presidential Campaigns|president]] was released from prison under pre-specified conditions, and went into private housing with a caregiver. Daniel would be absent online for the next 12 days until August 3, 2026, when a [[:File:August3DanielSighting.png|photograph]] of him at a bar with his caregiver [[Sightings and Fan Interactions#August 3|surfaced online]], and was posted to [[r/Daniellarson]] and [[Larsonleak|LarsonLeak]]. Beyond the sighting, the arc has been marked by Daniel's absence online, presumed to be because of his probation officer monitoring his devices. The prospect of getting into hot water with the law has seemed to sufficiently deter most would-be weens and enablers, the very people who usually provoked and kept Daniel's activity going, from trying to contact him. His previous incarceration hasn't stopped Daniel from keeping his interest in [[Grace VanderWaal]], as his battery of comments under her latest music video(s) evidently shows.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1vf1fsx/emergency_the_president_is_back/</ref>

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