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Grace VanderWaal

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{{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it.|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success|4=Grace's first (and probably only) official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel|DOB=January 15, 2004|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Female|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)|Arcs=}}
'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> that [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent and unhealthy obsession on since he was around 17 years old. His obsession with Grace began when he saw her perform on ''America's Got Talent'' while watching the show with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]].

Ever since, Daniel has had an unhealthy obsession, despite Grace being [[Pedophilia|underage]] for the majority of it. Since his infatuation with her started, he has convinced himself that he is a part of her life. This perceived 'relationship' progressed rapidly over time, influenced by Daniel's own delusions, which were further reinforced by interactions with [[Management|managers]], [[trolls]], and those pretending to be Grace.

Over time, Daniel's posts regarding Grace on his [[Social Media Accounts|numerous social media accounts]] became increasingly explicit. In many of these posts, Daniel would talk in graphic detail about his sexual fantasies involving her, describing the various inappropriate acts that he would like to do with her. When engaging with trolls impersonating Grace, Daniel has consistently referenced images of her from her childhood.

Grace, and to a lesser extent, her family, were frequently impersonated by trolls, who used her identity to deceive Daniel and gain his trust. On multiple occasions, Daniel has engaged with these trolls in conversations involving disturbing and often inappropriate topics. Despite being misled by numerous individuals pretending to be Grace, he continues to fall for these deceptions. It has been speculated that he falls fir the deceotions either because he despwants them to be true, or because he is addicted to the attention.

On the April 17, 2024, Grace publicly acknowledged Daniel in a comment on her TikTok, ''@gracevanderpeepee,'' calling him a pedophile who has haunted her life.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6ut1b/the_real_grace_called_daniel_a_pdo/?sort=new</ref> Additionally, Grace has filtered out any mention of Daniel's name from her comment sections, providing additional weight to the notion that she is aware of him and detests him. Furthermore, messages attributed to her mother suggest that Grace and her family want no contact with him.

Despite being told off by Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently in the [[Second Jail Arc]], during a call in September 2024, Daniel mentions plans for a wedding with her, and believes that her father Dave actually supports him.

== Origins ==
Daniel has had an obsession with Grace Vanderwaal ever since Grace performed on America's Got Talent in 2016. He has stated that watching the show was a common pastime with his grandmother. While of questionable validity, his grandmother is documented to have said that Daniel may sing with Grace on stage one day. Since then, Daniel has believed that they were in a romantic relationship, despite him being 17, and [[Pedophilia|Grace being 12.]]

Daniel mentioned Grace a few times in 2020, in one instance in November, he claimed that he would be collaborating with Grace on a Zoom meeting, which he was likely told by management at the time.
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Starting on May 12, 2021, Daniel began claiming that he and Grace had a collaboration in progress that would be coming out soon. Later, he escalated these claims by stating on TikTok that he and Grace had started dating. Things escalated quickly from there. Daniel's fixation intensified as he began telling strangers on the street that he was in a relationship with her. More disturbingly, Daniel recorded multiple videos of himself moaning and whispering in a sensual manner for Grace's viewing pleasure, and even worse, recorded himself having an orgasm ('''NSFW!)''' <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/zcrw51/someone_sent_me_this/</ref> while whispering her name.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/13kpc3t/this_message_is_for_grace_uhhhhh_ohhhh_mmmmm_oh/</ref> In stark contrast to his lustful posts regarding Grace, Daniel has also posted hysterical videos about her 'breaking up' with him, calling her a bitch and various other expletives.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace]</ref> Although Daniel has issued multiple apologies for the sexually charged videos he made about Grace, he has continued this behavior. While malicious trolls have played a role in deceiving and reinforcing his belief that he was in a relationship with her, his actions have repeatedly demonstrated an intense and persistent obsession with her.[[File:DanielGrace.png|thumb| Daniel mogs Grace with his Greek God-esque Jawline.|left]]

Daniel, fully aware that Grace was under 18, made multiple posts claiming that he would, "...wait until Grace is 18." His claims about their relationship have shifted depending on his delusions at the time. When viewing it as romantic, Daniel refers to Grace as his girlfriend. When perceiving it as sexual, he has described explicit acts he wishes to engage in with her.

Daniel continues to insist that his obsession with Grace is not sexual, claiming instead that he simply "...wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref> However, everything Daniel says about Grace should be taken with a huge grain of salt as he has a tendency to internalize his delusions.

{{Quote|I just wanted a chance and I need help! I was never givin a chance and every single time I tried to contact you i get threatened. I really like your daughter for who she is and not for sexual reasons. The trolls want everyone to think it's for sexual reasons. I just wanted to stand out and have a chance with her! I know the competition she has. We are all human and we do sexual activities though. But that doesn't make me a pedophile if I have never even done anything and everyone uses me because I don't have protection. I'm sorry for everything being crazy}}<gallery>
File:Danieldenying2.png|Daniel denying his pedophilic attraction to Grace.
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</gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard and has frequently targeted her with his obsessive behavior, similar to other figures he has fixated on, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram were frequently inundated with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a direct conversation with her in real time. Daniel repeatedly mentioned and tagged her in his own TikTok videos, causing her notifications to be dominated by his messages. This behavior persisted across nearly all of his TikTok accounts, eventually leading to the suspension of one due to repeated harassment. Shortly after, Grace filtered out terms in her comments such as "Daniel Larson," "Mr. President," and "Danderson" from her TikTok comments to prevent further interaction. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>

As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace shows no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of individuals impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in egregious and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content like the ''Pencil Incident.''

Even during the [[Jail Arc]]'','' Daniel has mentioned Grace in phone conversations with Clark, seemingly believing that she might bail him out. While his Graceposting has eased up, it has never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's current head-canon is that he and Grace are periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. He still thinks about Grace while [[Second Jail Arc|incarcerated for federal crimes]].

Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to.
== Delusions ==
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=== The Likee Meltdown ===
''Main Article: [[Likee Meltdown]]''

During one of his delusional episodes, Daniel, seemingly without access to his phone, posted on Likee, a short video creating platform he used while banned from TikTok, in despair and asking his followers to retrieve information from the 'VanderWaal Team'.

Daniel appeared to believe that an unspecified accident had occurred and that the VanderWaal family, whom he was convinced had been in contact with him, was withholding information about Grace. Throughout the video, he hit his head and made threats against his own life. This incident was particularly notable as it marked the first time Daniel had a meltdown online.

Despite his claims, he did not act on his threats, and once the episode subsided, he returned to his usual behavior. Daniel said that if he did not get into contact with the VanderWaal family, he would end up homeless. Though relatively minor at the time, this episode foreshadowed more severe delusional behavior in the future.

Afterwards, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of Grace, and her father Dave. In this video, he expressed the belief that Grace had both committed suicide and suffered a heart attack simultaneously. Before Daniel addressed their deaths, he became emotional, crying and hysterically apologizing for sexting minors and sending pictures of his genitals to individuals he believed to be Grace. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref>

After this live-stream, Daniel posted to his TikTok admitting that Grace was one of the minors he had supposedly sexted. Daniel admitted, "I have sexted minors, 13 years old, well I'm gonna be honest, 12 years old".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fgywu/13_years_old_well_im_gonna_be_honest_12_years_old/</ref> The video ends with Daniel saying that he planned to move on by not doing things such as this anymore and putting in the work to become a better person for her, especially after Grace's 'death.'

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While it may have appeared that Daniel's belief in Grace’s supposed death prompted a moment of repentance, this was short-lived. Upon realizing that Grace was still alive, he quickly reverted to his usual obsessive behavior, once again posting about her regularly and continuing to sext with individuals he believed to be her.

=== [[Tyrone]] ===
[[File:GraceTyrone 1.png|thumb|"Tyrone just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder"]]
[[File:GraceTyrone 2.png|left|thumb|552x552px|Daniel, alluding to the hospital Grace was apparently staying at, was being shot up.]]
During the July 24th freak-out, Daniel became convinced that Grace was being attacked by an individual named "Tyrone," whom he described as an African-American man attempting to kill her. He claimed that Tyrone had "just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder." Following this, Daniel's community tab was filled with paranoid posts, as he simultaneously believed that Grace had died and that she was still alive in a hospital while Tyrone continued to pursue her.

At one point, he became convinced that Tyrone was attacking the hospital where Grace was supposedly being treated, escalating to what he described as a "standoff."<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15e3dul/this_is_actually_very_entertaining/</ref> These delusions were likely exacerbated by trolls who fueled his paranoia. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15exd9u/photos_of_tyrone_graces_attacker_have_been_leaked/</ref>

=== Daniel's (Failed) Trek from Colorado to New York ===
While in contact with Daniel, an account claiming to be Grace told him that she had recently been with another man. Fueled by delusions, rage, and his obsessive fixation on Grace, Daniel decided to hike from Colorado to New York in an attempt to "win her back," documenting his journey through TikTok videos recorded during the night.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14a8u2n/an_old_underrated_moment_imo_after_a_fake_grace/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14ab7s3/continuation_from_my_previous_post_daniel_keeps/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14adymh/the_not_so_thrilling_conclusion_to_daniels_big/</ref>

In these TikToks, Daniel claimed that he had, "...officially fucked up," with Grace to the point that she had broken up with him. In a rare moment of clarity, Daniel acknowledged that Grace was her own person and that she could date whoever she wanted. Daniel’s reason for going to New York was to win back Grace’s love from whomever she was apparently having sex with. He tried to guilt trip her in these videos by saying that he had a, "...[h]eart disease from heartbreak," and details about how hard his childhood was.

As the night progressed, Daniel remained awake, continuing his journey as the sun began to rise. During the walk, he made increasingly erratic statements and even broke into karaoke. Ultimately, the hike ended with Daniel returning to Denver, either due to exhaustion or after realizing that the "Grace" he had been communicating with was, in fact, a troll.
[[File:PregnantGrace.png|thumb|319x319px|Grace "pregnant" with Jacob's baby.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15t743z/jacob_sartorius_got_grace_pregnant/</ref>]]

=== The Grace and Jacob Sartorius Love Affair ===
''Main Article: [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Jacob_Sartorius#Delusions Jacob Sartorius#Delusions]''

[[July 24th Freak-out|On July 24th]], 2023, Daniel became convinced that Grace, whom he believed had been in a relationship with him until this point, had broken up with him as things were, "..moving too slow". Shortly after, he became fixated on the idea that she had started dating American social media personality and singer [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon believe that Jacob had impregnated Grace, and ordered her assassination by "[[Tyrone]]", all at the same time. Daniel's narrative regarding Jacob rapidly changed, at one point claiming that Jacob was harassing him, and later insisted that he was targeting Grace instead.

This eventually culminated into Daniel throwing his dinner into a river because of his anger at Grace dating Jacob instead of him.

== Contact ==
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]]
While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed.

=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
Daniel's obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him in December 2021. He directly confronted him, telling him to leave her and their family alone, and were considering putting a restraining order against him with the threat of building a criminal case. Daniel had an intense reaction to this confrontation, as he went to the hospital and at one point, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref>

=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] ===
Daniel's continued obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022.

Tina, through Instagram, firmly demanded that Daniel cease all contact with her family, especially her daughter, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Tina then claimed to be in contact with the police, and if he did not stop making videos and posts about Grace, she would pursue legal action and have him arrested.

In response, Daniel acknowledged her message but then stated that he planned to take his own life that night. However, he did not follow through with this threat. It is likely that he made the statement as an attempt to guilt-trip Tina or gain attention.

{{Quote|Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP}}

Despite this, Tina has not followed suit with her threats. According to a message exchange with a member of the Daniel Larson subreddit, Tina had reached out to the Denver police However, they were unable to intervene, as Daniel had not made any direct threats against Grace [[August 29th Meltdown|at the time]]. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>

Even so, this interaction with Grace's mother was a focal point of multiple videos and community posts for some time. Daniel posted multiple videos where he appeared emotional, often crying and/or apologizing to the VanderWaal family while repeatedly addressing the 'allegations' against him. However, his responses were inconsistent; at times, Daniel acknowledged his actions, while at other times, he dismissed the allegations as unfounded rumors.{{Citation Needed}}

Two weeks later, Tina left a comment on one of Daniel's live-streams, urging him to stop his obsessive posting.

{{Quote|God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP}}

Upon receiving this message, Daniel repeatedly responded to Tina, pressing her with questions, to which she replied:

{{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}}

Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, stating that things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and insisting he is misunderstood. He has not received a response. <gallery widths="150" heights="150">
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Months later, on March 26, 2023, an exasperated Tina left a comment on Daniel's YouTube short, titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." She denied this claim and warned Daniel that he was close to being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref>

{{Quote|Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.

Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense.}}

Daniel responded 10 times, begging her for a second chance and crying. Tina ignored these messages. However, the next day, Tina posted on Daniel's community tab post, with a link to his Cash App. Tina warned his followers that they were participating in committing a crime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>

{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}

Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. As of 2024, this remains the last verifiable message Tina has sent to Daniel regarding Grace.

=== Grace Rape Troll ===
[[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]]
Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number belonging to someone who claimed to be Grace VanderWaal; the identity of the person behind this number remains unknown.

In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals. Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.

The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults'''''—seemingly desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.

Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>

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=== AI Prank ===
On June 16, 2023, Reddit user [[u/TMZ_news]] posted a video of Grace VanderWaal's Instagram account, editing the image to make her most recent post appear as a video addressing Daniel. <ref>https://archive.org/details/why-did-grace-just-post-this-on-instagram-14b-9wfr</ref> The video in question being made using AI.

In the video, 'Grace' urges Daniel to leave her and her family alone, reinforcing the fact that he had never been in contact with any of the members of the VanderWaal family. u/TMZ_news went on to post screenshots of alleged messages between him and Tina VanderWaal, in which Tina claimed the video was taken down due to Grace's "lawyer" advising them to do so, although these messages are '''''most likely fake'''''.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14bh8tr/the_vanderwaal_team_explained_graces_post_she/</ref>

Daniel addressed the video on the community section of his YouTube page, and his panicked reactions made it clear that he did not see the posts as fake, and had fallen for the elaborate prank. [citation needed]

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=== Messages with u/TMZ_News ===
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While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace responded by stating that she had never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to do so. She emphatically expressed her hatred for him and her desire for him to stop mentioning her name.
{{Quote|I know who he is, but I have never contacted him and don't have want anything to do with him. He's the worst thing that has ever happened to my career. Every time I search my name I see pictures of that dirty pedophile. My posts get spammed with comments about that freak Daniel. I hate him and I wish he would just stop talking about me.}}

They replied to Grace with condolences for both her and her family, offering to stop messaging Grace about Daniel.

{{Quote|No, it's okay I understand that you're just trying to help. It's nice having someone to talk to about the problem and I can tell that you're a nice guy.}}

This was the last message Grace sent before their exchange ended.

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There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he will not change. Due to his delusions, he will likely continue to believe that Grace loves him and that everyone else is lying. If this response is authentic, it would likely encourage Daniel to persist, as his efforts have made Grace aware of him.

However, there is a high chance that these messages are fake. This same user had previously faked posts from Grace's Instagram in order to trick Daniel, so any other media coming from U/TMZ_news should be approached with skepticism. Until more evidence comes out, it is safe to assume that the exchange pictured above is faked.

=== TikTok Comment (Official Acknowledgement) ===
On April 17, 2024, it was revealed that Grace is, in fact, aware of Daniel.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6vhdt/screen_recording_of_real_grace_account_calling/</ref> On a post of her TikTok account, a user commented,
{{Quote|Is laniel darson featured?}}

Grace had filtered out "Daniel Larson" from her comments on TikTok due to the harassment. She replied,

{{Quote|If ur trying to be a musician with [REDACTED BAND NAME] being a fan of a p*do that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success}}
[[File:CommunityGrace.png|frameless|595x595px|right|Daniel, in response to Grace's comment. ]]

The commenter later deleted his original comment after Grace had replied, taking issue with Grace mentioning his band. However, he provided a screen recording of the comment.

This finally confirms that Grace is indeed aware of Daniel, and clearly does not want anything to do with him, mentioning that he has haunted her. Given the amount of weens who have likely flooded Grace's comment section with mentions of Daniel, this is not very surprising. Daniel saw the comment and confirmed this on his Community Tab,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQD2h4-5DteNbgocGSjL7tw/community?lb=UgkxMQ2PXdR0vZry_MLEFxBs63rrcW3KX3Rk</ref> but he continues to harbor delusions, still thinking she loves him, when in reality she does not. In addition, it is possible Daniel even thought the comment was made by a troll.

However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''

== References ==

Fleshlight Incident

2025-05-05T12:06:19Z

TheHighKing: Archiving link.

{{CW}}[[File:AHHHHHHHHH.jpg|thumb|A cropped screenshot from the video.|328x328px]]The '''Fleshlight Incident''' is one of Daniel's many bizarrely sexual incidents. On August 28, 2023, a disturbing video leaked of [[Daniel|Daniel.]] The video is a recording of Daniel pleasuring himself with a fleshlight which he'd bought only a few days prior. Daniel uses it for over a minute while staring into the camera.

The video was likely filmed somewhat recently, as a few weeks before, Daniel had posted photos on his YouTube community tab showing boxes of various fleshlight-type sex toys that he had purchased on a trip to the sex store "Adam and Eve".

== Video ==
A capture of the video can be found [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/163upai/new_daniel_larson_video_he_uploaded_to_twitter/ here]. Viewer discretion is advised.

== External Links ==
{{Incidents}}https://archive.is/KKBax

https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/169q8q4/flashlight_incident/

https://archive.is/3Pern

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[[Category:Incidents in 2023]]

Fleshlight Incident

2025-05-05T12:05:05Z

TheHighKing: Archiving link.

{{CW}}[[File:AHHHHHHHHH.jpg|thumb|A cropped screenshot from the video.|328x328px]]The '''Fleshlight Incident''' is one of Daniel's many bizarrely sexual incidents. On August 28, 2023, a disturbing video leaked of [[Daniel|Daniel.]] The video is a recording of Daniel pleasuring himself with a fleshlight which he'd bought only a few days prior. Daniel uses it for over a minute while staring into the camera.

The video was likely filmed somewhat recently, as a few weeks before, Daniel had posted photos on his YouTube community tab showing boxes of various fleshlight-type sex toys that he had purchased on a trip to the sex store "Adam and Eve".

== Video ==
A capture of the video can be found [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/163upai/new_daniel_larson_video_he_uploaded_to_twitter/ here]. Viewer discretion is advised.

== External Links ==
{{Incidents}}https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17pnpms/what_are_the_chances_that_theres_some_new/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/169q8q4/flashlight_incident/

https://archive.is/3Pern

[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2023]]

R/Daniellarson

2025-05-05T02:34:32Z

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r/Daniellarson is the official Reddit of the [[Daniel Larson]] community and a primary source of new and old information.

== Statistics ==
r/Daniellarson was created on Oct 29, 2020 by u/SlimJiMorrison. The community would stay under 100 members until May 2021, when it saw a spike in members, still gaining today, likely due to the [[May 6th|May 6th Incident]].

As of May 2024, the subreddit is at 74k members.<ref>https://subredditstats.com/r/Daniellarson</ref> It is in the top 2% of subreddits by size.

According to https://subredditstats.com/r/DanielLarson, the subreddit has had many spikes in comments, notably following incidents or major moments in the Larsonverse.

On [[May 6th]] 2021, the subreddit had 514 comments posted.

On November 29th, 2021, the subreddit had 1260 comments posted.

On the [[October 16th Incident|16th of October]], 2022, the subreddit had 614 comments posted.

On [[December 10th Incident|December 10th]] 2022, the subreddit had 833 comments posted.

On [[Las Vegas Arc|February 15th]], the subreddit had 1082 comments posted.

On April 5th, the subreddit had 1600 comments posted.

On the [[Dog Arc|10th of July 2023]], the subreddit had 3655 comments posted. This is the biggest spike in comments within the subreddit's history.

On the [[Olive Garden Incident|10th of December]] 2023, the subreddit had 1319 comments posted.

== Daniel’s interactions ==
Daniel heavily dislikes the subreddit. During the dog arc, when people became concerned for the dog, Daniel tried to reassure everyone, telling his fans not to trust the subreddit, ''because of trolling''. Obviously, since it has been involved in multiple events, or has many posts exposing Daniel’s [[Pedophilia|pedophilia]], Daniel perceives the subreddit as the main place where trolls conspire new trolling schemes against him.

== Controversy ==
In September of 2023, a [https://imgur.com/a/RLal6PV series of screenshots] showing inappropriate conversations between the subreddit's Discord moderators and underage users of the Discord were posted to Daniel's thread[https://kiwifarms.st/threads/daniel-larson-daniellarsoncashapp-helpdaniellarson.95241/] on the Kiwi Farms.

== 2024 Temporary Shutdowns ==
On January 3rd of 2024, the subreddit was temporarily closed allegedly due to a picture being posted on it which was a firearm being pointed towards Daniel, it is not known what the picture actually was but there were claims that it was an Airsoft gun. The subreddit was reopened on January 6th, of 2024 and stricter rules were put into place such as doxing, and stalking. The moderation team stated that they received warnings and restrictions due to the imprudence of the community <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/190cfdo/please_read_important_changes_to_the_subreddit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>.

On February 25th, 2024, posting was made restricted by SlimJiMorrison initially following a lack of content on the subreddit. The decision came after new content from Daniel was seen as scarce. This was considered to be a controversial decision as other individuals who may have content were unable to post in any way. SlimJim would eventually conclude that the subreddit had gotten another warning and that posts would be manually approved by moderators from there on.

== Major roles played ==
r/Daniellarson has played a major role in some events, including:

* [[3 Days War]]
* [[Flexburger|Flexburger's doxxing]]
* Various other doxxings of trolls and managers
* Daniel has attempted raids on it several times, and regularly monitors it.
* [[Dog Arc]]
* [[The Siege of r/lasvegas]]

== See also ==
{{CameoArc}}{{DogArc}}

== Citations ==
<references />

R/Daniellarson

2025-05-05T02:32:54Z

TheHighKing: Link to mentioned thread. Pipe.

{{Lowercase}}
{{Stub}}

r/Daniellarson is the official Reddit of the [[Daniel Larson]] community and a primary source of new and old information.

== Statistics ==
r/Daniellarson was created on Oct 29, 2020 by u/SlimJiMorrison. The community would stay under 100 members until May 2021, when it saw a spike in members, still gaining today, likely due to the [[May 6th|May 6th Incident]].

As of May 2024, the subreddit is at 74k members.<ref>https://subredditstats.com/r/Daniellarson</ref> It is in the top 2% of subreddits by size.

According to https://subredditstats.com/r/DanielLarson, the subreddit has had many spikes in comments, notably following incidents or major moments in the Larsonverse.

On [[May 6th]] 2021, the subreddit had 514 comments posted.

On November 29th, 2021, the subreddit had 1260 comments posted.

On the [[October 16th Incident|16th of October]], 2022, the subreddit had 614 comments posted.

On [[December 10th Incident|December 10th]] 2022, the subreddit had 833 comments posted.

On [[Las Vegas Arc|February 15th]], the subreddit had 1082 comments posted.

On April 5th, the subreddit had 1600 comments posted.

On the [[Dog Arc|10th of July 2023]], the subreddit had 3655 comments posted. This is the biggest spike in comments within the subreddit's history.

On the [[Olive Garden Incident|10th of December]] 2023, the subreddit had 1319 comments posted.

== Daniel’s interactions ==
Daniel heavily dislikes the subreddit. During the dog arc, when people became concerned for the dog, Daniel tried to reassure everyone, telling his fans not to trust the subreddit, ''because of trolling''. Obviously, since it has been involved in multiple events, or has many posts exposing Daniel’s [[Pedophilia|pedophilia]], Daniel perceives the subreddit as the main place where trolls conspire new trolling schemes against him.

== Controversy ==
In September of 2023, a [https://imgur.com/a/RLal6PV series of screenshots] showing inappropriate conversations between the subreddit's Discord moderators and underage users of the Discord were posted to Daniel's [https://kiwifarms.st/threads/daniel-larson-daniellarsoncashapp-helpdaniellarson.95241/] on the Kiwi Farms.

== 2024 Temporary Shutdowns ==
On January 3rd of 2024, the subreddit was temporarily closed allegedly due to a picture being posted on it which was a firearm being pointed towards Daniel, it is not known what the picture actually was but there were claims that it was an Airsoft gun. The subreddit was reopened on January 6th, of 2024 and stricter rules were put into place such as doxing, and stalking. The moderation team stated that they received warnings and restrictions due to the imprudence of the community <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/190cfdo/please_read_important_changes_to_the_subreddit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>.

On February 25th, 2024, posting was made restricted by SlimJiMorrison initially following a lack of content on the subreddit. The decision came after new content from Daniel was seen as scarce. This was considered to be a controversial decision as other individuals who may have content were unable to post in any way. SlimJim would eventually conclude that the subreddit had gotten another warning and that posts would be manually approved by moderators from there on.

== Major roles played ==
r/Daniellarson has played a major role in some events, including:

* [[3 Days War]]
* [[Flexburger|Flexburger's doxxing]]
* Various other doxxings of trolls and managers
* Daniel has attempted raids on it several times, and regularly monitors it.
* [[Dog Arc]]
* [[The Siege of r/lasvegas]]

== See also ==
{{CameoArc}}{{DogArc}}

== Citations ==
<references />

Soaking Incident

2025-05-01T03:27:43Z

TheHighKing: Pipe

{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|'''DO NOT DO THIS!''' Not only should you keep a [[Daniel_Larson_Wiki:About|great distance]] from Daniel but assault is a serious crime and you do not have plot armor... even if you did you shouldn't be assaulting people. }}

On '''March 17, 2024,''' [[trolls]] poured a bottle of water over Daniel's head.

The video documents the soaking from multiple angles; one being filmed from inside a troll's running car, while the other being filmed up close with a troll approaching Daniel, telling Dan to look away. When he does, the troll drenches him, which causes Daniel to jump, and then exits from view.

The video was uploaded to [[Flexburger|Flexburgers]] YouTube channel.

== Video ==
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[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2024]]

Timeline (1990s)

2025-05-01T03:24:46Z

TheHighKing: Undo revision 21996 by FuckassBob (talk)

{{Timeline intro|throughout the 1990s. |prev=Pre-1990s|next=2000s}}
[[File:Youngdaniel.png|thumb|240x240px|Daniel, at 5 months old. ]]

==1998==

* '''Febuary 15th''' - Elisabeth and Travis do an unspeakable act to call forth a daemon into being.

* '''August 15th''' - Elisabeth's last chance to abort Daniel.

*'''November 15th''' - '''[[Daniel Larson]] is born.'''

== 1995 ==

* '''Sometime''' - Elisabeth Shimer enrolls in [[wikipedia:Antelope_Valley_College|Antelope Valley College]] in Lancaster, California.
* '''Sometime''' - Elisabeth and [[Travis Larson]], father of Daniel Larson, meet.

== 1993 ==

* '''Sometime''' - Elisabeth graduates from the Young People's Institute of Art and Academics.

== 1990 ==

* '''Sometime''' - [[Elisabeth Shimer]], mother of Daniel Larson, enrolls in the Young People's Institute of Art and Academics.

Timeline (1990s)

2025-03-29T21:06:23Z

TheHighKing: Lulz

Timeline (1990s)

2025-03-29T21:04:21Z

TheHighKing: Lol

{{Timeline intro|throughout the 1990s. |prev=Pre-1990s|next=2000s}}
[[File:Youngdaniel.png|thumb|240x240px|Daniel, at 5 months old. ]]

==1998==

* '''August 15th''' - Elisabeth's last chance to abort Daniel.

*'''November 15th''' - '''[[Daniel Larson]] is born.'''

== 1995 ==

* '''Sometime''' - Elisabeth Shimer enrolls in [[wikipedia:Antelope_Valley_College|Antelope Valley College]] in Lancaster, California.
* '''Sometime''' - Elisabeth and [[Travis Larson]], father of Daniel Larson, meet.

== 1993 ==

* '''Sometime''' - Elisabeth graduates from the Young People's Institute of Art and Academics.

== 1990 ==

* '''Sometime''' - [[Elisabeth Shimer]], mother of Daniel Larson, enrolls in the Young People's Institute of Art and Academics.

Fleshlight Incident

2025-03-26T02:31:38Z

TheHighKing: More llink.

{{CW}}[[File:AHHHHHHHHH.jpg|thumb|A cropped screenshot from the video.|328x328px]]The '''Fleshlight Incident''' is one of Daniel's many bizarrely sexual incidents. On August 28, 2023, a disturbing video leaked of [[Daniel|Daniel.]] The video is a recording of Daniel pleasuring himself with a fleshlight which he'd bought only a few days prior. Daniel uses it for over a minute while staring into the camera.

The video was likely filmed somewhat recently, as a few weeks before, Daniel had posted photos on his YouTube community tab showing boxes of various fleshlight-type sex toys that he had purchased on a trip to the sex store "Adam and Eve".

== Video ==
A capture of the video can be found [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/163upai/new_daniel_larson_video_he_uploaded_to_twitter/ here]. Viewer discretion is advised.

== External Links ==
{{Incidents}}https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17pnpms/what_are_the_chances_that_theres_some_new/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/169q8q4/flashlight_incident/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15ei235/more_texts_daniel_sent_to_grace_he_bought_a/

[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2023]]

Fleshlight Incident

2025-03-26T02:30:51Z

TheHighKing: Adding links.

{{CW}}[[File:AHHHHHHHHH.jpg|thumb|A cropped screenshot from the video.|328x328px]]The '''Fleshlight Incident''' is one of Daniel's many bizarrely sexual incidents. On August 28, 2023, a disturbing video leaked of [[Daniel|Daniel.]] The video is a recording of Daniel pleasuring himself with a fleshlight which he'd bought only a few days prior. Daniel uses it for over a minute while staring into the camera.

The video was likely filmed somewhat recently, as a few weeks before, Daniel had posted photos on his YouTube community tab showing boxes of various fleshlight-type sex toys that he had purchased on a trip to the sex store "Adam and Eve".

== Video ==
A capture of the video can be found [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/163upai/new_daniel_larson_video_he_uploaded_to_twitter/ here]. Viewer discretion is advised.

== External Links ==
{{Incidents}}https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17pnpms/what_are_the_chances_that_theres_some_new/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/169q8q4/flashlight_incident/
[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2023]]

wiki.lolcow.city:Community portal

2025-03-26T02:27:29Z

TheHighKing: Text.

What is this portal?

Community?

Alright then, I'll go first.

This guy became very boring after his arrest, there is like, nothing to add to this wiki.

Second Jail Arc

2025-03-09T19:20:55Z

TheHighKing: M9nor update and new citayiond

''This article covers Daniel's arrest on April 30, 2024 for various federal charges. For other uses, see [[Jail (Disambiguation)]].''{{Ongoing}}{{Ambox
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| issue = '''Do NOT attempt''' to contact anyone involved in the investigation against Daniel or contact Daniel while he is in jail. Individuals associated with Daniel, especially '''[[Management]]''', have been investigated by law enforcement due to their involvement with Daniel. Bear this in mind and keep yourself safe.
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}} {{Quote|I'm on the bus now to Boulder Colorado||author=[[Daniel]]'s last Community Tab post before his arrest}}[[File:DanielMugshot4.png|thumb|Why the long face? ]]

On '''April 30, 2024,''' [[Daniel]] was [[Daniel and the Law|'''arrested''']] and placed into Jefferson County Detention Facility. At the time of his arrest, the charges against him were undisclosed, with the listed reason being "courtesy housing for another agency." The following day, Daniel was transferred to the Clear Creek County Jail, where his mugshot was soon taken.

Initially, it was believed that Daniel's arrest was related to multiple probation violations, as in the days leading up to his arrest, Daniel [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|defrauded a Buffalo Wild Wings]], and admitted to viewing [[Pedophilia|exploitive material of children]].<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> However, according to a call made to his manager, [[Clark]], Daniel was arrested for the several terroristic threats he had made over the past year. These claims were later backed by documents which revealed that Daniel had been charged with seven counts of threats, carrying a maximum sentence of 65 years.

This was the fifth time Daniel had been arrested in 2024 alone, with the most recent occurring [[April 2nd Arrest|less than a month prior]]. Unlike previous arrests, Daniel is ineligible for bond, and given the severity of the charges, there is a possibility he will never be granted bond.

At the time of Daniels arrest, it was believed that Daniel's manager, [[Clark]], had been apprehended by authorities at his job due to his association with Daniel over the previous 10 months. However, it was soon revealed that Clark and members of Daniel's [[management]] were investigated by authorities who sought information about threats Daniel had made. Afterward, Clark officially resigned from being Daniel's manager, and admitted to lying about his entire existence to Daniel. This aforementioned call was speculated to have been the last contact Daniel has had with the outside world, but this would soon be proven false, as Clark continued to communicate with him months later, however there has been no communication since Daniel's transfer to Springfield.

Following this, Daniel's contact with the outside world has been through sporadic phone correspondence, which suspended for nearly four months until September. He was in contact with [[Lil Sippy]] and [[Clark]] while in FCI Englewood through phone calls, emails and letters.

During his two brief stays at two correctional facilities in Oklahoma, he was in touch with [[Clark]] via phone calls. However, since his transfer to MCFP Springfield in late December 2024, all communication appears to have ceased permanently with the exception of occasional letters.

On May 31, 2024, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution]]. He was held in a mental health facility for evaluation, and was institutionalized on July 19 after being found incompetent to stand trial.

On December 6, 2024, Daniel informed [[Lil Sippy]] that he was to be transferred to the United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners, or Springfield, in the following week. He was released from Englewood four days later and was transferred to [[wikipedia:Cimarron_Correctional_Facility|Cimarron Correctional Facility]] in Oklahoma where he stayed for two weeks. On Christmas Eve, he was transferred to Grady County Detention Center for unknown reasons, and three days later was transferred to the Springfield for further mental health evaluation. The process will take four months, and will end at the end of April. Based on his delusions remaining quite strong during his stay at FCI Englewood, it can be presumed that he will be deemed (like previously) incompetent to stand trial, though this cannot be assured concretely.

This is one of the most significant events in Daniel's life, considering that he is currently at risk of being imprisoned for up to 65 years if found guilty on all charges, or possibly see himself institutionalized for the rest of his life. Many see this as the final blow, with his [[Plot Armor|plot armor]] truly breaking. It has also become the most publicized aspect of Daniel's life thus far, as multiple social media accounts and news articles have covered the situation as it unfolded.<ref>[[Daniel in the media]]</ref> The Second Jail Arc stands as the longest period of Daniel being incarcerated, followed by the [[November 6th Arrest]].

As of {{#time: F j, Y|Now}}, Daniel still remains in custody.

==Background==
[[File:DanielArrestWarrent.png|thumb|Warrant for Daniel's arrest. |383x383px]]
During the summer of 2023, a Secret Service agent named [[Daniel MacDougall]] began investigating Daniel following several terroristic threats he had made, namely one in which he threatened to blow up the White House. This threat in particular came right off of the heels of Daniel having had a [[7/11 incident|destructive meltdown]] in a Walmart after having his [[Dog Arc|dog]] taken from him. Following this, Daniel would have multiple meetings with MacDougall, including one notable encounter where he met with MacDougall and an associate of his.<ref>https://archive.org/details/p1Kq9L756V8</ref>[[File:DanielLastpost.png|left|thumb|Daniel's last post before his well-deserved arrest. ]]Despite being repeatedly warned by a legitimate Secret Service agent to cease making threats against people, businesses, and government agencies, Daniel refused, continuing to make threats, even making threats against MacDougall himself.<ref>[[April 6th Meltdown]]</ref> As a result, a case was built against Daniel, which eventually led to his arrest. Law enforcement interrogated both Clark, his then-manager, and members of Daniel's management to verify the threats he had made over the years. These testimonies provided the final pieces of evidence necessary to arrest Daniel.
On April 25th, a warrant was issued for Daniel's arrest. This was thought to be due to Daniel having violated his probation multiple times, even before the issuing of said warrant. This notion was only exacerbated by the fact that only two days after this warrant was issued, he was [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]] of a Pumphouse restaurant by authorities on April 27,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1cgq1rg/footage_of_the_pumphouse_incident/</ref> defrauded a [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|Buffalo Wild Wings]] the next day, and on his YouTube community tab, claimed to have viewed illegal material of children.<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> [[File:April30thBookingInfo.png|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."|left|372x372px]]

On the evening of April 29, Daniel became inactive on every one of his [[Social Media Accounts|social media accounts]], with his last post stating that he was on the bus back to Boulder.

Daniel is well known for making terroristic threats via social media and is speculated to have made over 100 of these threats since 2021. This habit of threat-making appeared to escalate in the weeks preceding his arrest. A prime example of this trend can be seen in the [[April 6th Meltdown]], in which Daniel repeated the phrase "bomb you!" and "kill you!" threatening to vandalize several government buildings. Even more, in January of the same year, Daniel [[January 26th Hospital Incident|threatened to carry out a mass shooting against a hospital]] after having been [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]].

These threats would not serve him well in the long run, as the Colorado Police Department was slowly build a case against him, charging him with seven counts of threats, which carries a maximum sentence of '''65 years'''.

In the indictment calling for Daniel's arrest, each threat Daniel made that contributed to his arrest was stated, most notably one wherein Daniel threatened to bomb a non-profit organization. This was soon discovered to be the Developmental Disabilities Resource Center, or the [[DDRC]]. The DDRC is a non-profit organization that helped house Daniel in the past. While the reason behind this threat is unknown, Daniel's threats led to the building being evacuated and searched by bomb-sniffing dogs.

Additionally, the case included the following Incidents:

* [[July 3rd Community Tab Incident]], where he threatened to bomb Spotify's headquarters and a courthouse.
* [[August 29th Meltdown]], where he threatened to bomb the White House and every police station in the U.S.
* [[Christmas Day Meltdown]], where he threatened to kill Secret Service Agent [[Daniel MacDougall]].
* [[March 23rd Meltdown]], where he threatens to bomb the FBI headquarters and kill their personnel.

==The Arrest==
Daniel was arrested on the afternoon of April 30 during his probation meeting. He was booked into the Jefferson County Detention Facility, and was ineligible for bail. Before his actual charges were revealed, he was charged with, "courtesy housing for another agency." Daniel was transferred to Clear Creek County Jail the next day.[[File:ClarkArrest.png|thumb|Looks like management Better Call Saul!|344x344px]]

===Clark's (alleged) arrest, and interactions with Bob===
{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|It is important to note that Daniel's management has not, and will not, face legal repercussions for their involvement with Daniel. Many have claimed that they will be going to jail for the same amount of time Daniel will, which is frankly ridiculous. However, you should still not attempt to interact with Daniel while he is incarcerated.}}

On May 3, [[Clark]], Daniel's former [[Management|manager]], reported in a Discord server that police officers had shown up at his place of work. Almost instantly afterward, Clark went offline. It was at first assumed that he had been arrested due to allegedly being an accomplice to all of Daniel's threats, as well as having alleged contact with the Secret Service agent that got Daniel arrested in the first place. This was later proven to be false.
[[File:BobClarkText1.png|left|thumb|Text's between Clark and Bob. ]]
Following hours of silence, Clark resurfaced on Discord with concerning messages. He shared that he had been fired from his job for being, "too drunk." Additionally, he was contacted by Bob Proctor, Daniel's mentor, about Daniel allegedly getting into a fight while being held. This was a revelation nobody knew, as it was thought that since the [[Christmas Day Meltdown]], Bob had officially cut ties with Daniel.

After being contacted by bob, Clark stepped down as Daniel's manager. In his (at the time) final calls to him, he admitted to Daniel that everything he had done up until that point had been fake, and that he would cease contacting him going forward.<ref>[[Jail Communications#May 6]]</ref>

Shortly after this call was conducted, a final call between Clark and Daniel was made.<ref>[[Jail Communications#May 9]]</ref> In texts to Clark, Bob stated that Daniel wanted to have a man-to-man talk with Clark.<ref>[[:File:BobClarkText3.png]]</ref>

==The Charges==
Daniel is currently facing serious legal charges. Initially, he was facing six counts of, "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive," and one count of, "Interstate Communication of Threats." Each, "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive," charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in federal prison. The "Interstate Communication of Threats" charge could add another five years.<ref>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/844#:~:text=Whoever%20transports%20or%20receives%2C%20or,or%20personal%20property%2C%20shall%20be</ref><ref>[https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875#:~:text=(c)-,Whoever%20transmits%20in%20interstate%20or%20foreign%20commerce%20any%20communication%20containing,than%20five%20years%2C%20or%20both. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875#:~:text=(c)-,Whoever%20transmits%20in%20interstate%20or%20foreign%20commerce%20any%20communication%20containing,than%20five%20years%2C%20or%20both.]</ref> Based off of all seven charges, the maximum jail time that Daniel could face was 65 years in prison. It is difficult to accurately estimate to the fines that Daniel may face as they range quite substantially. <gallery caption="Daniel's full indictment">
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==Legal proceedings and communications==
See also: [[Jail Communications]]{{SpecialMessage|Message=Some scans of court documents may be in low quality. Help us out by getting higher quality/clearer scans.}}[[File:JaredPublicDefender.png|left|thumb|Daniel's public defender, Jared Westbroek. |274x274px]]

=== First jail communication ===
Shortly after being incarcerated, Daniel had a phone conversation with [[Clark]], his then manager, on May 1. As mentioned in these calls, Daniel was assigned a public defender due to him [[Daniel Larson's Finances|not having the means]] to obtain a lawyer. His attorney was soon identified as '''Jared Scott Westbroek.''' According to Daniel, his public defender is attempting to argue that Daniel could not have carried out any of his threats as he lacked the resources to do so, therefore he should be released.

=== Second and third communication ===
On May 6, motivated by the interaction he had with law enforcement at his workplace, Clark [[Jail Communications#May 6|called]] Daniel, revealing that his entire existence was a lie, and everything he had done up to the point was a fallacy. This call is the most serious out of all of them, with Clark referring to it as the "most important call of his life."

On May 9, Clark reluctantly answered a phone call from Daniel after being convinced to do so, despite an earlier decision to cut contact. Daniel reached out in hopes to fix their friendship. Clark remained serious, telling Daniel he has many people to apologize to. This would be the last call Daniel would have for nearly 4 months.

===Motion for Daniel's release===
On May 10, right before Daniel's court hearing, documents were found that detailed Daniel's public defender, Jared Scott Westbroek, introducing a motion for Daniel's immediate release. However, this motion, along with one filed the day before were both denied by the judge.

These documents requested that Daniel be outfitted with an ankle tracker and placed under mandatory mental health treatment if released. This document also mentions placing Daniel into a halfway house, where he would presumably stay if he were to come out of jail, which has not happened yet.

As of June 29, this motion has been left unresolved.

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===May 10 court appearance ===
[[File:BobClarkText2.png|left|thumb|"Nothing was accomplished."|286x286px]][[File:NotGuilty.png|thumb|TLDR; He's not getting out. ]]Daniel appeared in court for an arraignment on May 10, 2024, and pleaded not guilty to all charges. Due to his not guilty plea, Daniel was not released from jail. Daniel was given a new trial date, set to July 15, which was stated in the Order of Detention following the trial. According to Bob, Daniel stated that, "nothing was accomplished" following the hearing's conclusion.

In texts to Clark, Bob tells him that he would be held until a mental health evaluation was conducted (which Daniel will most definitely fail). Additionally, Bob states that Daniel says the the "appearance got leaked," although it is unclear as to what Daniel meant by this.

==== Order of detention ====
After the court hearing, the judge, Norman Reid Neureiter, issued an order of detention. This confirmed that Daniel would, in fact, remain in jail after pleading not guilty, as well as the judge demanding that Daniel complete a mandatory mental health evaluation. This order of detention also touches upon Daniel's request to be released. <gallery caption="Gallery">
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===May 23 mental health evaluation docket ===
A docket from May 23 ordered Daniel undergo a mental health evaluation. His July 10th and 15th court dates were canceled, and he was sent to undergo an evaluation at a mental health facility.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e0ermn/his_court_dates_were_canceled/#lightbox</ref>

=== May 27 docket report ===
On May 27, a docket report was issued that detailed all of what had happened up to that point during Daniel's incarceration. <gallery caption="Gallery">
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===May 31 transfer ===
[[File:DanielTransfer.png|thumb|Details of his transfer. ]]
On May 31, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution,]] which, coincidentally, is the same facility where sex offender and documented [[Pedophilia|pedophile]] [[wikipedia:Jared_Fogle|Jared Fogle]] is being held.

===July 19 competency report===
A psychiatric report for Daniel filed on July 19, 2024. In this report, it is revealed that Daniel was deemed incompetent for trial, and would be institutionalized in an unknown mental health facility in hopes of being evaluated where he is currently in custody. The court hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024 was canceled. On July 26, an order was issued for Daniel to be institutionalized for no longer than four months. He was also deemed "sexually dangerous" in the order.

Daniel was to be re-evaluated around the end of November 2024, however this did not happen.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1flnstm/court_update/</ref><gallery caption="Gallery">
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=== September 7 Clark communication ===
On September 7, 2024, Clark [[Jail Communications#September 7|called]] Daniel for the first time in nearly 4 months. Daniel seems to have forgotten nearly everything they had spoken about in their last call, as he speaks about his delusion of being in contact with the VanderWaal family. More importantly, Daniel divulges details of his current legal situation, most notably that he was going to be transferred to a psychiatric facility in a different state sometime in the near future, and that he had been in protective custody for up to 2 months at that point.

===September 25 report & transfer request ===
A report was filed on September 25, with Daniel's attorney demanding that he be transferred to a psychiatric facility within a week and that the court receive his evaluation by November 25, with the case to be dismissed if neither happened.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fpvbx0/pacer_update_daniels_attorney_is_making_demands/#lightbox</ref> Daniel's attorney believes that he has been in jail for longer than he should be and the reason is because the mental health facilities do not have any beds available. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fpylr0/the_most_recent_update_on_his_case_from_pacer/</ref>

On October 3, 2024, the court responded to this request, stating that his four-month evaluation period will begin in December. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fvn22q/court_update_10324/</ref> He will also be moved to Springfield Missouri that month, and will be re-evaluated in April 2025. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fy96ar/when_the_beast_is_released_what_will_wehe_do/</ref> However, staff in Daniel's jail said that he will not be transferred anytime soon, as he is not even on the list and there are no beds available. If he is not transferred to Springfield by December 31, 2024, the case will be dismissed which will result in Daniel being released. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gfrzu3/1030_sippy_cup_live_wmr_president_call/</ref>

===Canceled & future hearings===
Daniel had a competency hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024, but it was ordered to be vacated, and he was to be reevaluated sometime at the end of November. <ref name=":0" /> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e55plg/update_competency_hearing_set_for_9232024/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e52a09/only_3_counts_of_7_now/</ref> However, this re-evaluation did not happen.

=== Lil Sippy jail communications ===
In additional correspondence from jail to [[Lil Sippy]], a convicted criminal Daniel had acquainted himself with, Daniel provided updates on his current situation and experiences. Daniel continued to double down his [[delusions]], threaten to sue the US Government, talk about how he thought Bob was ruining his life, ask Sippy sexual questions over mail, and demand his own release from jail. More importantly, Daniel admits that he had not spoken to his lawyer since early August 2024.[[File:NewJailtext.png|thumb|279x279px|[[Celebrity in the Hospital Incident|THERE IS A CELEBRITY IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL!]]]]
=== Final FCI Englewood correspondence ===
On December 1, 2024, Daniel would make his last call at FCI Englewood. In his final call to Clark, Daniel claims to have been [[Daniel and Sex#Rape|raped]] by a previous cellmate of his.<ref>[[Jail Communications#December 1]]</ref> The validity of this claim has not been confirmed, but it can be assumed this accusation of assault is false, considering Daniels record of falsely accusing [[Ryan|others]] of assaulting him.

=== December 10 transfer ===
On December 6, 2024, Daniel replied to an email from Lil Sippy that he was packing up and awaiting transfer to Springfield within the next week.<ref>[[Jail Communications#December 6 Emails]]</ref> 4 days later, Daniel was found to not be in BOP custody.<ref>https://archive.ph/WrKc4</ref> Eventually, it was confirmed by [[Flexburger]] that Daniel was transferred out of FCI Englewood on December 10, 2024 and was booked into [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimarron_Correctional_Facility Cimarron Correctional Facility] in Payne County, Oklahoma. With all previous details noted, Daniel was likely to be transferred out of Cimarron within the near future.
[[File:Springfield transfer.png|left|thumb|EMERGENCY!]]

=== Christmas Eve transfer ===
On December 24, 2024, after spending two weeks in Cimarron, Daniel called Clark stating that he had moved to Grady County Detention Center, and was put on a 23 hour hold. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1hln6qj/update_daniel_moved/</ref>

=== December 27 transfer ===
On December 27, 2024, Daniel was found to be back in BOP custody. He was transferred to the [[wikipedia:United_States_Medical_Center_for_Federal_Prisoners|United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners]], also known as MCFP Springfield. He was sent to Springfield with the intention of getting a mental health evaluation. Known documents state that he is to go through this mental health evaluation for at least 4 months, ending roughly around April 2025.

=== January 2025 ===
Someone filed a motion to unseal grand jury records regarding Daniels case. It was denied.<ref>https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68494815/united-states-v-larson/</ref>

==External Links==
{{SecondJailArc}}{{Chronology}}

==References==
[[Category:Incidents]]

<references />

Lil Sippy AMA

2025-02-17T04:10:09Z

TheHighKing: Words

{{NotInvolved}}On October 17th, 2024, [[Lil Sippy]] posted onto the r/daniellarson subreddit, seeking to do an AMA and dispel rumors regarding his recently revealed criminal charges. The AMA would end up not happening, as moderators of the subreddit quickly removed his post and banned him in typical plebbit jannie fashion.

Below is his original post.

= AMA =
Now that I’m finally able to post (my account is new and didn't meet the age requirements for posting until it turned ten days old; the post of my first call was ostensibly approved by the mods but anything else I’ve tried to post before my account reached a certain age was instantly deleted), I am going to clear up some lies that have been posted about me. First off, I’m not a pedophile. You guys just love to make slanderous shit up with zero evidence and that’s why nobody takes you idiots seriously. I’m not homeless, I do have friends and family, I am not a child abuser, I never told Daniel that I could get him out of jail. I never threatened an air force base. I’m not a Trump supporter, but the fact that you Redditards are so radical left that anyone who supports a political candidate whom you disagree with is automatically a psychopath in your eyes speaks volumes about your character. I don’t “pop Xanax”. I’m not a “school shooter worshipper” and I’m not prohibited from being around children, as a matter of fact I am around children every day. I’m not trying to get Daniel to perpetrate a mass shooting, or any crime for that matter. I don’t have a “complete disregard for the law”, as a matter of fact, I have followed the law to a T since April. Jesus Christ, the lies you idiots come up with are so lame. Seriously. I will now do a sort of Q&A to answer some of the questions that aren’t predicated on complete lies, both about Daniel and about myself:

Q: But weren’t you charged with child abuse?

A: When I was seventeen years old, I got in a fight with an individual who was, at the time, fourteen or fifteen years old. This individual assaulted me first and I simply did what I needed to do to defend myself. Because the state I live in automatically charges seventeen-year-olds as adults, I was charged with “physical abuse of a child”and I sat in jail for a significant amount of time before going to trial and being acquitted. Because this is overwhelmingly a low-IQ sub, let me explain to you what that means. That means that twelve impartial jurors had all the evidence and witness testimony against me presented to them by an experienced assistant district attorney (i.e., prosecutor) and after hearing all the evidence against me, all twelve of the jurors unanimously decided that I was NOT GUILTY. Here is the UNCROPPED version of a screenshot that was posted recently.

Q: Was the individual injured?

A: I didn’t see any injuries on him, nor did the responding police. But the individual and one witness claimed that he had “cuts on his lip” and “bumps on his head”. No blood. No black eyes. If this individual was injured, the injuries he sustained were minor and essentially self-inflicted by proxy. If someone physically attacks me, I’m not going to just sit back and let it happen.

Q: I think you’re guilty. You probably just hired a good lawyer, didn’t you?

A: This was a trial at which I invoked my Sixth Amendment right, as recognized by SCOTUS in ''Faretta v. California'', 422 U.S. 806, 95 S.Ct. 2525 (1975), to proceed pro se. So, absolutely not.

Q: But weren’t you represented by Mark Richards, the lead defense attorney on the Kyle Rittenhouse defense team?

A: Yes, but I fired him months before trial because he wasn’t representing my best interests effectively.

Q: Why do you idolize mass shooters?

A: I don’t. I have an interest in history, including true crime history. And occasionally I document that on the internet.

Q: Why are you prohibited from being near schools?

A: The judge thinks I am a threat based on some old accusations from 2017 of school-related threats of violence, similar to the accusations leveled against Blark a decade or so ago (which he of course later confessed to), which were never proven against me, coupled with some other circumstances that would take way too long to explain. So, in essence, even though my current charges have nothing to do with schools, the judge still has ordered me to stay away from them (besides simply driving by, which the judge has made an exception for) just because some idiots think I may be a threat to them.

Q: So it has nothing to do with pedophilia?

A: Absolutely not, and for ignoramuses like the ones on the sub making up baseless pedophilia allegations against me, this is why no one takes you seriously. When you’re constantly calling people pedos just because you don’t like them, nobody is going to believe you when you call out an actual pedo.

Q: Why are you feeding into Daniel’s delusions?

A: At first I tried to get him to stop believing in all that crazy shit but now it’s become obvious that he never will. So now I just go along with it. Most of the shit I say makes him feel better. I mean, if you were sitting in jail, wouldn’t it make things at least a little bit better if you thought you were going to drop a mixtape with Keith Chief when you got out?

Q: Why do you want to help someone like Daniel get out of jail after all the bad things he’s done?

A: Everyone makes mistakes, and all or at least nearly all of Danderson’s mistakes were made as a direct result of his psychosis, which was extremely exacerbated by idiot trolls like Combotter. I want to see Daniel at a point in his life where his psychosis and other mental issues are under control to the point that he can become a productive member of society.

Q: If you’re not trying to recruit Daniel for a mass shooting, what are your intentions with our President?

A: To be his friend and help him, and document his oral statements on the internet, since people are so interested in him.

Q: Why are you posting fake letters?

A: The letter wasn't fake. It probably wasn't handwritten by Daniel himself because it has lowercase Ls uncharacteristic of Mr. President's handwriting and is missing the signature zigzag-shaped Ns. But it was likely dictated by Daniel to some other prisoner. Considering the fact that Daniel is on a PC tier with a bunch of chomos, I don't think it's unlikely that someone else in Danderson's pod would have any moral or religious qualms about writing "is a gag reflex normal when you're about to cum?" if a schizophrenic man asked them too. I suspect Danderson knew that his handwriting was incredibly illegible and commissioned someone else to write the letter.

To summarize, I have done absolutely nothing illegal in talking to Danderson, and you can do all the internet detective bullshit you want, make all the FBI reports that you can. Go ahead! But none of it is going to get me in trouble because I never broke the law. And for those believing the lies being spread about me, I hope this post opens your eyes. If not, I’m perfectly fine with being a bad guy in your eyes because your confirmation bias indicates just how much of a slow-in-the-mind you are.

And to those of you who have been grateful for the new Danderson content, have been respectful to me, and not participated in the lie-telling activities, thank you.

== Response ==
{{Red|u/No-Kiwi-7342:}} Thanks for giving us your life story that none of us cared about. If you’d like to file another 6 trillion dollar lawsuit please send your demands to 548 Market St, San Francisco, United States. Enjoy your permanent ban.

== External Links ==
{{SecondJailArc}}

== References ==
<references />

Lil Sippy

2025-02-17T03:56:47Z

TheHighKing: /* Discovery */Dead link

{{Doxxing}}{{CW}}{{Credibility|reason=:
*Lil Sippy, being a convicted criminal, is inherently biased when speaking of crimes he has been charged of.
*Lil Sippy, at one point, tried to vandalize this very page with misinformation.}}{{Stub}}
{{Quote|I don’t “pop Xanax”. I’m not a “school shooter worshipper” and I’m not prohibited from being around children, as a matter of fact I am around children every day.|author=Lil Sippy <ref>[[Lil Sippy AMA]]</ref>}}{{Infobox|image=SippyMugshot.jpg|imageDesc=Lil Sippys mugshot.|name=Nicholas Werling|Knownas=Lil Sippy|Alignment=Management|DOB=June 16, 2004 (Age 20)|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Male|Arcs=[[Second Jail Arc]]}}

'''Nicholas Werling''' (born June 16, 2004), better known as '''Lil Sippy,''' is an individual who acquainted himself with [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] following his federal [[Second Jail Arc|arrest]] in April 2024. He is behind every phone call with Daniel during the [[Second Jail Arc]] that is not made by [[Clark]]. Lil Sippy made himself known on October 7, 2024, though it is incredibly likely that he was in contact with Daniel well before this. Since then, they have called several times and developed a sort of friendship.

Lil Sippy is notably controversial, even before his interactions with Daniel. He is known for being on an FBI watch list (not much unlike Danny Boy), legally not being allowed to be near schools, and having been charged and acquitted of child abuse. Much like the trolls that came before him, he has claimed that these charges are false, and that he had been unjustly targeted by law enforcement.

== Lil Sippy and the Law ==
{{Stub}}
Even before interacting with Daniel, it was evident that Lil Sippy, much like his pal Daniel, had a troubled relationship with the law.
[[File:SippyCharges.png|left|thumb|347x347px|Lil Sippy’s charges in his first of many adult criminal cases.]]
According to Lil Sippy himself, his childhood was troubled. In April of 2022, at the age of 17, he got into a physical altercation with an individual who was 14–15 years old. According to him, this individual initiating physical assault, and Sippy swung back in an effort to defend himself. However, this did not work in his favor, as he was soon charged with physical abuse of a child.<ref name=":0">[[Lil Sippy AMA]]</ref> Sippy sat in an adult county jail In his home state of Wisconsin, Sippy was legally tried as an adult due to the age of the individual he got into a fight with.

In June of 2022, Lil Sippy was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm. In October 2022, he was charged with one count of bail jumping; this charge was later dismissed in August 2024.{{Citation Needed}} In August 2024, he was again charged with bail jumping; this charge was dismissed in October 2024. As of October 2024, the only pending criminal charge he has against him is the firearm possession charge.{{Citation Needed}}

His trouble making did not stop into his adulthood, however. In May 2022, Lil Sippy was prohibited from being within 500 feet of any schools. This prohibition remains in effect as of December 2024. In an (albeit, failed) Reddit AMA, Lil Sippy claims that this was because, "The judge thinks I am a threat based on some old accusations from 2017 of [[Dylan Clark|school-related threats of violence."]]<ref name=":0" /> What these "threats of violence" referred to was never elaborated on.

In January 2025, Lil Sippy announced that he was selling vinyls of Daniel Larson's calls, with the November 16 vinyl allegedly being sold.

== Discovery ==
{{Stub}}
Lil sippy revealed himself on October 7th, 2024, with his first call to Daniel.<ref>[[Jail Communications#October 7 (1)]]</ref> Following this, Sippy would begin to reach out to several editors of this wiki, seeking information on how to add photos of a letter he had received from Daniel. He had first reached out to editor [[User:WindowsXP|WindowsXP]], writing:
{{Quote|Thanks for your transcribing efforts. I am new to the Wiki and don't know too much as far as how to edit and stuff. Anyway, I have a letter from Mr. President and I was wondering if it would be appropriate to add it to the wiki. And if so, what would be the appropriate way to add it to the Wiki?|author=Lil Sippy <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/User_talk:WindowsXP (dead link)</ref>[dead link]}}
After this, another editor replied:
{{Quote|Hello! Your efforts are greatly appreciated, and if you’d like to add a letter, please join the Discord server. You most likely do not have image permissions yet because you are new. So please join the discord server from the link in the “read this if you’re banned” page and we’ll discuss.}}
Following this, Sippy joined the wikis discord server. In the discord, he released what is presumed to be the first-ever jail letter from Daniel.<ref>[[Jail Communications#October 3 Letter]]</ref> However, the legitimacy of the letter was heavily debated when first revealed. This was due to the several explicit requests and questions Daniel asked in the letter, most notably, "Is the clit the same hole females pee from?" Even with claims of the letter being fabricated, it is most likely that it is real, evidenced by statements made by Daniel in future jail communications.

== Interactions with Daniel ==
{{Stub}}
Starting on October 7th, 2024, Lil Sippy began to release calls he had made to Daniel while he was incarcerated. These calls continued frequently since then. In these calls, Sippy can be heard further amplifying Daniel's delusions. Even more, Lil Sippy even sent Daniel a Grace VanderWaal songbook through the mail, making it evident he had no problem enabling his delusions.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxf5X8W7wxnNejG_X96XlAaSuJUVMfiGH_</ref>

== Feud with Clark ==
{{Stub}}

Lil Sippy and [[Clark]] began to have tensions shortly after he came into the spotlight. It is unknown why exactly their feud started, but it was most likely due to tensions arising within their relationships with Daniel. However, it would remain evident that their dislike of each other was intense, as instead of referring to Clark as Clark, Lil Sippy referred to him as "Griffin," his real name.

In one call, Clark revealed that Lil Sippy had somehow gotten access to his address, and had began sending harassing letters to him, one particularly being sent to Clark's parent. In response, Clark posted footage of Lil Sippy's arrest in 2022, revealing several of his other charges.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxwKMd42Bq4XYEN6GUOshB3TfT4SllYZxY</ref> On December 4, 2024, Lil Sippy sued for defamation in Missouri Eastern District Court.

== See Also ==

* [[Dylan Clark]]
* [[Daniel and the Law]]

== External Links ==
{{SecondJailArc}}{{Chronology}}

== References ==

The Anti-Semetic Incident

2025-02-16T16:36:14Z

TheHighKing: Jew

{{Delete|reason=this ain't really an incident. more so a tiktok. also, this can be included in danderson's page.}}

== The Incident ==
In early 2023, [[Daniel Larson]] made a controversial TikTok video where he called [[World Of T-Shirts]] a Jew, remarking "well, that explains a lot".

 <youtube>qWSkqsqYODM</youtube>

== History of Anti-Semitism ==
Daniel's grandmother had the last name "Shimer". That name is usually, but not always, a jewish name. It is unclear if she is jewish or not.<ref>[https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=shimer#:~:text=Shimer%20Family%20History-,Shimer%20Surname%20Meaning,Altered%20form%20of%20German%20Schimmer. https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=shimer#:~:text=Shimer%20Family%20History-,Shimer%20Surname%20Meaning,Altered%20form%20of%20German%20Schimmer.]</ref>

Daniel has a serious history of antisemitic language, videos, and beliefs. This is probably best highlighted in two things- his belief in the New World Order and [[Goldberg Shacklestein]].

=== New World Order ===
Daniel fiercely believes in a common antisemitic conspiracy theory called the New World Order. The New World Order is the theory of a totalitarian mega-government, or a deep state, is controlling the whole world. Anti-Judaism is very thick in this theory. The theory is often cited to believe the world is controlled by a "Jewish Elite". There is no evidence for this idiotic theory, especially considering such a government with so much to lose would obviously try to kill anyone trying to expose it. Even Daniel's belief in this is a lovely piece of evidence towards the fact that Daniel has very low [[intelligence]].

=== Goldberg Shacklestein ===
[[Goldberg Shacklestein]] is a fictional leader of the New World Order. Daniel believes he is trying to find and kidnap him. He also believes Goldberg wants his semen, for whatever reason.

== Apology ==
He later made an apology for it, yet again making a video where he repeated the words "I repent", probably not knowing what it means.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12gpp30/_/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

The Anti-Semetic Incident

2025-02-16T04:59:17Z

TheHighKing: Joo

{{Delete|reason=this ain't really an incident. more so a tiktok. also, this can be included in danderson's page.}}

== The Incident ==
In early 2023, [[Daniel Larson]] made a controversial TikTok video where he called [[World Of T-Shirts]] a Jew, remarking "well, that explains a lot".

 <youtube>qWSkqsqYODM</youtube>

== History of Anti-Semitism ==
Daniel's grandmother had the last name "Shimer". That name is usually, but not always, a jewish name. It is unclear if she is jewish or not.

Daniel has a serious history of antisemitic language, videos, and beliefs. This is probably best highlighted in two things- his belief in the New World Order and [[Goldberg Shacklestein]].

=== New World Order ===
Daniel fiercely believes in a common antisemitic conspiracy theory called the New World Order. The New World Order is the theory of a totalitarian mega-government, or a deep state, is controlling the whole world. Anti-Judaism is very thick in this theory. The theory is often cited to believe the world is controlled by a "Jewish Elite". There is no evidence for this idiotic theory, especially considering such a government with so much to lose would obviously try to kill anyone trying to expose it. Even Daniel's belief in this is a lovely piece of evidence towards the fact that Daniel has very low [[intelligence]].

=== Goldberg Shacklestein ===
[[Goldberg Shacklestein]] is a fictional leader of the New World Order. Daniel believes he is trying to find and kidnap him. He also believes Goldberg wants his semen, for whatever reason.

== Apology ==
He later made an apology for it, yet again making a video where he repeated the words "I repent", probably not knowing what it means.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12gpp30/_/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Second Jail Arc

2025-02-15T04:58:57Z

TheHighKing: Change petition

''This article covers Daniel's arrest on the 30 April 2024 for various federal charges. For other uses, see [[Jail (Disambiguation)]]''{{Ongoing}}{{Ambox
| Name = Contact
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| issue = '''Do NOT attempt''' to contact anyone involved in the investigation against Daniel or contact Daniel while he is in jail. Individuals associated with Daniel, especially '''[[Management]]''', have been investigated by law enforcement due to their involvement with Daniel. Bear this in mind and keep yourself safe.
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}} {{Quote|I'm on the bus now to Boulder Colorado||author=[[Daniel]]'s last Community Tab post before his arrest}}[[File:DanielMugshot4.png|thumb|Why the long face? ]]

On '''April 30, 2024,''' [[Daniel]] was [[Daniel and the Law|'''arrested''']] and placed into Jefferson County Detention Facility. At the time of his arrest, the charges against him were undisclosed, with the listed reason being "courtesy housing for another agency." The following day, Daniel was transferred to the Clear Creek County Jail, where his mugshot was soon taken.

Initially, it was believed that Daniel's arrest was related to multiple probation violations, as in the days leading up to his arrest, Daniel [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|defrauded a Buffalo Wild Wings]], and admitted to viewing [[Pedophilia|exploitive material of children]].<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> However, according to a call made to his manager, [[Clark]], Daniel was arrested for the several terroristic threats he had made over the past year. These claims were later backed by documents which revealed that Daniel had been charged with seven counts of threats, carrying a maximum sentence of 65 years.

This was the fifth time Daniel had been arrested in 2024 alone, with the most recent occurring [[April 2nd Arrest|less than a month prior]]. Unlike previous arrests, Daniel is ineligible for bond, and given the severity of the charges, there is a possibility he will never be granted bond.

At the time of Daniels arrest, it was believed that Daniel's manager, [[Clark]], had been apprehended by authorities at his job due to his association with Daniel over the previous 10 months. However, it was soon revealed that Clark and members of Daniel's [[management]] were investigated by authorities who sought information about threats Daniel had made. Afterward, Clark officially resigned from being Daniel's manager, and admitted to lying about his entire existence to Daniel. This aforementioned call was speculated to have been the last contact Daniel has had with the outside world, but this would soon be proven false, as Clark continued to communicate with him months later, however there has been no communication since Daniel's transfer to Springfield.

Following this, Daniel's contact with the outside world has been through sporadic phone correspondence, which suspended for nearly four months until September. He was in contact with [[Lil Sippy]] and [[Clark]] while in FCI Englewood through phone calls, emails and letters.

During his two brief stays at two correctional facilities in Oklahoma, he was in touch with [[Clark]] via phone calls. However, since his transfer to MCFP Springfield in late December 2024, all communication appears to have ceased permanently.

On May 31, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution]]. He was held in a mental health facility for evaluation, and was institutionalized on July 19 after being found incompetent to stand trial.

On September 24, 2024, a change.org petition was made to free daniel, it has 29 signatures as of February 14, 2025.<ref>https://www.change.org/p/demand-justice-for-daniel-larson-protect-autistic-and-mentally-ill-individuals-from-online-manipulation</ref>

On December 6, 2024, Daniel informed [[Lil Sippy]] that he was to be transferred to the United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners, or Springfield, in the following week. He was released from Englewood on December 10, 2024 and was transferred to [[wikipedia:Cimarron_Correctional_Facility|Cimarron Correctional Facility]] in Oklahoma where he stayed for two weeks. On Christmas Eve, he was transferred to Grady County Detention Center for unknown reasons, and three days later was transferred to the Springfield for further mental health evaluation. The process will take four months, and will end at the end of April. Based on his delusions remaining quite strong during his stay at FCI Englewood, it can be presumed that he will be deemed (like previously) incompetent to stand trial, though this cannot be assured concretely.

This is one of the most significant events in Daniel's life, considering that he is currently at risk of being imprisoned for up to 65 years if found guilty on all charges, or possibly see himself institutionalized for the rest of his life. Many see this as the final blow, with his [[Plot Armor|plot armor]] truly breaking. It has also become the most publicized aspect of Daniel's life thus far, as multiple social media accounts and news articles have covered the situation as it unfolded.<ref>[[Daniel in the media]]</ref> The Second Jail Arc stands as the longest period of Daniel being incarcerated, followed by the [[November 6th Arrest]].

As of {{#time: F j, Y|Now}}, Daniel still remains in custody.

==Background==
[[File:DanielArrestWarrent.png|thumb|Warrant for Daniel's arrest. |383x383px]]
During the summer of 2023, a Secret Service agent named [[Daniel MacDougall]] began investigating Daniel following several terroristic threats he had made, namely one in which he threatened to blow up the White House. This threat in particular came right off of the heels of Daniel having had a [[7/11 incident|destructive meltdown]] in a Walmart after having his [[Dog Arc|dog]] taken from him. Following this, Daniel would have multiple meetings with MacDougall, including one notable encounter where he met with MacDougall and an associate of his.<ref>https://archive.org/details/p1Kq9L756V8</ref>[[File:DanielLastpost.png|left|thumb|Daniel's last post before his well-deserved arrest. ]]Despite being repeatedly warned by a legitimate Secret Service agent to cease making threats against people, businesses, and government agencies, Daniel refused, continuing to make threats, even making threats against MacDougall himself.<ref>[[April 6th Meltdown]]</ref> As a result, a case was built against Daniel, which eventually led to his arrest. Law enforcement interrogated both Clark, his then-manager, and members of Daniel's management to verify the threats he had made over the years. These testimonies provided the final pieces of evidence necessary to arrest Daniel.
On April 25th, a warrant was issued for Daniel's arrest. This was thought to be due to Daniel having violated his probation multiple times, even before the issuing of said warrant. This notion was only exacerbated by the fact that only two days after this warrant was issued, he was [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]] of a Pumphouse restaurant by authorities on April 27,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1cgq1rg/footage_of_the_pumphouse_incident/</ref> defrauded a [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|Buffalo Wild Wings]] the next day, and on his YouTube community tab, claimed to have viewed illegal material of children.<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> [[File:April30thBookingInfo.png|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."|left|372x372px]]

On the evening of April 29, Daniel became inactive on every one of his [[Social Media Accounts|social media accounts]], with his last post stating that he was on the bus back to Boulder.

Daniel is well known for making terroristic threats via social media and is speculated to have made over 100 of these threats since 2021. This habit of threat-making appeared to escalate in the weeks preceding his arrest. A prime example of this trend can be seen in the [[April 6th Meltdown]], in which Daniel repeated the phrase "bomb you!" and "kill you!" threatening to vandalize several government buildings. Even more, in January of the same year, Daniel [[January 26th Hospital Incident|threatened to carry out a mass shooting against a hospital]] after having been [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]].

These threats would not serve him well in the long run, as the Colorado Police Department was slowly build a case against him, charging him with seven counts of threats, which carries a maximum sentence of '''65 years'''.

In the indictment calling for Daniel's arrest, each threat Daniel made that contributed to his arrest was stated, most notably one wherein Daniel threatened to bomb a non-profit organization. This was soon discovered to be the Developmental Disabilities Resource Center, or the [[DDRC]]. The DDRC is a non-profit organization that helped house Daniel in the past. While the reason behind this threat is unknown, Daniel's threats led to the building being evacuated and searched by bomb-sniffing dogs.

Additionally, the case included the following Incidents:

* [[July 3rd Community Tab Incident]], where he threatened to bomb Spotify's headquarters and a courthouse.
* [[August 29th Meltdown]], where he threatened to bomb the White House and every police station in the U.S.
* [[Christmas Day Meltdown]], where he threatened to kill Secret Service Agent [[Daniel MacDougall]].
* [[March 23rd Meltdown]], where he threatens to bomb the FBI headquarters and kill their personnel.

==The Arrest==
Daniel was arrested on the afternoon of April 30 during his probation meeting. He was booked into the Jefferson County Detention Facility, and was ineligible for bail. Before his actual charges were revealed, he was charged with, "courtesy housing for another agency." Daniel was transferred to Clear Creek County Jail the next day.[[File:ClarkArrest.png|thumb|Looks like management Better Call Saul!|344x344px]]

===Clark's (alleged) arrest, and interactions with Bob===
{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|It is important to note that Daniel's management has not, and will not, face legal repercussions for their involvement with Daniel. Many have claimed that they will be going to jail for the same amount of time Daniel will, which is frankly ridiculous. However, you should still not attempt to interact with Daniel while he is incarcerated.}}

On May 3, [[Clark]], Daniel's former [[Management|manager]], reported in a Discord server that police officers had shown up at his place of work. Almost instantly afterward, Clark went offline. It was at first assumed that he had been arrested due to allegedly being an accomplice to all of Daniel's threats, as well as having alleged contact with the Secret Service agent that got Daniel arrested in the first place. This was later proven to be false.
[[File:BobClarkText1.png|left|thumb|Text's between Clark and Bob. ]]
Following hours of silence, Clark resurfaced on Discord with concerning messages. He shared that he had been fired from his job for being, "too drunk." Additionally, he was contacted by Bob Proctor, Daniel's mentor, about Daniel allegedly getting into a fight while being held. This was a revelation nobody knew, as it was thought that since the [[Christmas Day Meltdown]], Bob had officially cut ties with Daniel.

After being contacted by bob, Clark stepped down as Daniel's manager. In his (at the time) final calls to him, he admitted to Daniel that everything he had done up until that point had been fake, and that he would cease contacting him going forward.<ref>[[Jail Communications#May 6]]</ref>

Shortly after this call was conducted, a final call between Clark and Daniel was made.<ref>[[Jail Communications#May 9]]</ref> In texts to Clark, Bob stated that Daniel wanted to have a man-to-man talk with Clark.<ref>[[:File:BobClarkText3.png]]</ref>

==The Charges==
Daniel is currently facing serious legal charges. Initially, he was facing six counts of, "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive," and one count of, "Interstate Communication of Threats." Each, "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive," charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in federal prison. The "Interstate Communication of Threats" charge could add another five years.<ref>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/844#:~:text=Whoever%20transports%20or%20receives%2C%20or,or%20personal%20property%2C%20shall%20be</ref><ref>[https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875#:~:text=(c)-,Whoever%20transmits%20in%20interstate%20or%20foreign%20commerce%20any%20communication%20containing,than%20five%20years%2C%20or%20both. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875#:~:text=(c)-,Whoever%20transmits%20in%20interstate%20or%20foreign%20commerce%20any%20communication%20containing,than%20five%20years%2C%20or%20both.]</ref> Based off of all seven charges, the maximum jail time that Daniel could face was 65 years in prison. It is difficult to accurately estimate to the fines that Daniel may face as they range quite substantially. <gallery caption="Daniel's full indictment">
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==Legal proceedings and communications==
See also: [[Jail Communications]]{{SpecialMessage|Message=Some scans of court documents may be in low quality. Help us out by getting higher quality/clearer scans.}}[[File:JaredPublicDefender.png|left|thumb|Daniel's public defender, Jared Westbroek. |274x274px]]

=== First jail communication ===
Shortly after being incarcerated, Daniel had a phone conversation with [[Clark]], his then manager, on May 1. As mentioned in these calls, Daniel was assigned a public defender due to him [[Daniel Larson's Finances|not having the means]] to obtain a lawyer. His attorney was soon identified as '''Jared Scott Westbroek.''' According to Daniel, his public defender is attempting to argue that Daniel could not have carried out any of his threats as he lacked the resources to do so, therefore he should be released.

=== Second and third communication ===
On May 6, motivated by the interaction he had with law enforcement at his workplace, Clark [[Jail Communications#May 6|called]] Daniel, revealing that his entire existence was a lie, and everything he had done up to the point was a fallacy. This call is the most serious out of all of them, with Clark referring to it as the "most important call of his life."

On May 9, Clark reluctantly answered a phone call from Daniel after being convinced to do so, despite an earlier decision to cut contact. Daniel reached out in hopes to fix their friendship. Clark remained serious, telling Daniel he has many people to apologize to. This would be the last call Daniel would have for nearly 4 months.

===Motion for Daniel's release===
On May 10, right before Daniel's court hearing, documents were found that detailed Daniel's public defender, Jared Scott Westbroek, introducing a motion for Daniel's immediate release. However, this motion, along with one filed the day before were both denied by the judge.

These documents requested that Daniel be outfitted with an ankle tracker and placed under mandatory mental health treatment if released. This document also mentions placing Daniel into a halfway house, where he would presumably stay if he were to come out of jail, which has not happened yet.

As of June 29, this motion has been left unresolved.

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===May 10 court appearance ===
[[File:BobClarkText2.png|left|thumb|"Nothing was accomplished."|286x286px]][[File:NotGuilty.png|thumb|TLDR; He's not getting out. ]]Daniel appeared in court for an arraignment on May 10, 2024, and pleaded not guilty to all charges. Due to his not guilty plea, Daniel was not released from jail. Daniel was given a new trial date, set to July 15, which was stated in the Order of Detention following the trial. According to Bob, Daniel stated that, "nothing was accomplished" following the hearing's conclusion.

In texts to Clark, Bob tells him that he would be held until a mental health evaluation was conducted (which Daniel will most definitely fail). Additionally, Bob states that Daniel says the the "appearance got leaked," although it is unclear as to what Daniel meant by this.

==== Order of detention ====
After the court hearing, the judge, Norman Reid Neureiter, issued an order of detention. This confirmed that Daniel would, in fact, remain in jail after pleading not guilty, as well as the judge demanding that Daniel complete a mandatory mental health evaluation. This order of detention also touches upon Daniel's request to be released. <gallery caption="Gallery">
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===May 23 mental health evaluation docket ===
A docket from May 23 ordered Daniel undergo a mental health evaluation. His July 10th and 15th court dates were canceled, and he was sent to undergo an evaluation at a mental health facility.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e0ermn/his_court_dates_were_canceled/#lightbox</ref>

=== May 27 docket report ===
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===May 31 transfer ===
[[File:DanielTransfer.png|thumb|Details of his transfer. ]]
On May 31, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution,]] which, coincidentally, is the same facility where sex offender and documented [[Pedophilia|pedophile]] [[wikipedia:Jared_Fogle|Jared Fogle]] is being held.

===July 19 competency report===
A psychiatric report for Daniel filed on July 19, 2024. In this report, it is revealed that Daniel was deemed incompetent for trial, and would be institutionalized in an unknown mental health facility in hopes of being evaluated where he is currently in custody. The court hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024 was canceled. On July 26, an order was issued for Daniel to be institutionalized for no longer than four months. He was also deemed "sexually dangerous" in the order.

Daniel was to be re-evaluated around the end of November 2024, however this did not happen.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1flnstm/court_update/</ref><gallery caption="Gallery">
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=== September 7 Clark communication ===
On September 7, 2024, Clark [[Jail Communications#September 7|called]] Daniel for the first time in nearly 4 months. Daniel seems to have forgotten nearly everything they had spoken about in their last call, as he speaks about his delusion of being in contact with the VanderWaal family. More importantly, Daniel divulges details of his current legal situation, most notably that he was going to be transferred to a psychiatric facility in a different state sometime in the near future, and that he had been in protective custody for up to 2 months at that point.

===September 25 report & transfer request ===
A report was filed on September 25, with Daniel's attorney demanding that he be transferred to a psychiatric facility within a week and that the court receive his evaluation by November 25, with the case to be dismissed if neither happened.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fpvbx0/pacer_update_daniels_attorney_is_making_demands/#lightbox</ref> Daniel's attorney believes that he has been in jail for longer than he should be and the reason is because the mental health facilities do not have any beds available. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fpylr0/the_most_recent_update_on_his_case_from_pacer/</ref>

On October 3, 2024, the court responded to this request, stating that his four-month evaluation period will begin in December. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fvn22q/court_update_10324/</ref> He will also be moved to Springfield Missouri that month, and will be re-evaluated in April 2025. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fy96ar/when_the_beast_is_released_what_will_wehe_do/</ref> However, staff in Daniel's jail said that he will not be transferred anytime soon, as he is not even on the list and there are no beds available. If he is not transferred to Springfield by December 31, 2024, the case will be dismissed which will result in Daniel being released. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gfrzu3/1030_sippy_cup_live_wmr_president_call/</ref>

===Canceled & future hearings===
Daniel had a competency hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024, but it was ordered to be vacated, and he was to be reevaluated sometime at the end of November. <ref name=":0" /> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e55plg/update_competency_hearing_set_for_9232024/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e52a09/only_3_counts_of_7_now/</ref> However, this re-evaluation did not happen.

=== Lil Sippy jail communications ===
In additional correspondence from jail to [[Lil Sippy]], a convicted criminal Daniel had acquainted himself with, Daniel provided updates on his current situation and experiences. Daniel continued to double down his [[delusions]], threaten to sue the US Government, talk about how he thought Bob was ruining his life, ask Sippy sexual questions over mail, and demand his own release from jail. More importantly, Daniel admits that he had not spoken to his lawyer since early August 2024.[[File:NewJailtext.png|thumb|279x279px|[[Celebrity in the Hospital Incident|THERE IS A CELEBRITY IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL!]]]]
=== Final FCI Englewood correspondence ===
On December 1, 2024, Daniel would make his last call at FCI Englewood. In his final call to Clark, Daniel claims to have been [[Daniel and Sex#Rape|raped]] by a previous cellmate of his.<ref>[[Jail Communications#December 1]]</ref> The validity of this claim has not been confirmed, but it can be assumed this accusation of assault is false, considering Daniels record of falsely accusing [[Ryan|others]] of assaulting him.

=== December 10 transfer ===
On December 6, 2024, Daniel replied to an email from Lil Sippy that he was packing up and awaiting transfer to Springfield within the next week.<ref>[[Jail Communications#December 6 Emails]]</ref> 4 days later, Daniel was found to not be in BOP custody.<ref>https://archive.ph/WrKc4</ref> Eventually, it was confirmed by [[Flexburger]] that Daniel was transferred out of FCI Englewood on December 10, 2024 and was booked into [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimarron_Correctional_Facility Cimarron Correctional Facility] in Payne County, Oklahoma. With all previous details noted, Daniel was likely to be transferred out of Cimarron within the near future.
[[File:Springfield transfer.png|left|thumb|EMERGENCY!]]

=== Christmas Eve transfer ===
On December 24, 2024, after spending two weeks in Cimarron, Daniel called Clark stating that he had moved to Grady County Detention Center, and was put on a 23 hour hold. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1hln6qj/update_daniel_moved/</ref>

=== December 27 transfer ===
On December 27, 2024, Daniel was found to be back in BOP custody. He was transferred to the [[wikipedia:United_States_Medical_Center_for_Federal_Prisoners|United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners]], also known as MCFP Springfield. He was sent to Springfield with the intention of getting a mental health evaluation. Known documents state that he is to go through this mental health evaluation for at least 4 months, ending roughly around April 2025.

==External Links==
{{SecondJailArc}}{{Chronology}}

==References==
[[Category:Incidents]]

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Daniel in the media

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[[Daniel Larson|Daniel]], following the entirely coincidental pattern with other lolcows, has occasionally made it to the attention of the '''media''' spotlight, in television, news articles, podcasts and the Internet.

== Traditional media ==

=== KWGN-TV Denver - Tennyson Center ===
Daniel Larson would appear on the news in a 3-minute broadcast about the [[Tennyson Center|Tennyson Center for Children]], a healthcare facility in Denver, Colorado.

This broadcast covered the then 14-year-old Daniel and on how well he was doing in the Tennyson Center.

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=== FOX Carolina News - Senior Shout Outs ===
Daniel Larson appeared in a short, less than a minute-long blip on Fox Carolina News where they covered accomplished people who were submitted by their parents. Daniel was most likely submitted by trolls.

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== Major Internet media ==
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=== Boulder Daily Camera ===
An article<ref>https://www.dailycamera.com/2024/05/15/man-arrested-for-reportedly-threatening-to-use-explosives-on-the-white-house-and-fbi-headquarters/</ref> was written by Nicole Dorfman on May 15th, 2024, titled "Boulder man accused of threatening to use explosives at CU, White House, FBI headquarters", discussed Daniel's several federal charges following the start of the [[Second Jail Arc]].

=== Times Now News ===
An article<ref>https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/daniel-larson-facing-federal-charges-and-arrest-for-bomb-threats-to-white-house-fact-checking-viral-claim-article-109829139</ref> was written by Times Now News on May 4th, 2024, discussing Daniel's several bomb threats against several establishments and agencies, going through each one and fact-checking them.

=== Dextero ===

An article<ref>https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/tiktoker-sparks-backlash-after-pulling-fire-alarm-during-olive-garden-citizens-arrest-2427676/</ref> about Daniel was published on December 12, 2023, regarding the [[Olive Garden Incident]].

=== Unilad ===

An article<ref>https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/daniel-larson-remains-jail-white-house-texs-463740-20240515</ref> was published about Daniel's threats.

== Interviews ==
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Self Harm

2025-02-11T03:01:22Z

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[[File:Hittingmyself.mp4|thumb|Daniel aggressively hitting himself during the Likee Meltdown.]]
[[Daniel Larson]] is a habitual self harmer. This manifests differently based on his intentions, and is likely caused by his mental disorders such as ADHD, Bipolar, and Autism. Suicidal behaviour is also common from Daniel. He has threatened to kill himself only when in distress, though he never follows through with these threats. What is more likely is that he is just doing it to express his distress, to obtain information, for attention, or in an attempt to stop something.

== Circumstances ==
When Daniel actually hurts himself, it is usually because he is extremely upset at his current circumstances. When he is upset, he often does things such as slam his head into his hands, punch holes in walls, hit himself, and other minor forms of self harm. Evidence of such occurrences can be found after the [[Häagen-Dazs Incident|Häagen-Dazs incident]], as a result of which he slammed his head into his hands, or the [[July 2022 Electronic Destruction Spree|destruction of the Airbnb]], or [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p0sahl/okay_this_is_actually_breaking_my_heart_his/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf punching holes] into the [[Pink room|Pink Room.]] His [[Daniel Larson's health#Mental Health|mental health issues]] almost certainly play a factor in why he does so. This is also usually accompanied by unusual movement / biting of his tongue, known as the "Angry Tongue" by fans.

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== Threats ==
Daniel often threatens suicide, but never follows through. He likely does this for attention, as he doesn't have anyone (beside trolls) to give him any, not even his own parents. An example of this can be seen when Daniel [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p0sahl/okay_this_is_actually_breaking_my_heart_his/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf destroyed the pink room.] In the description of a TikTok showcasing the destruction, Daniel typed, "Tonight is the end everyone." Another example is after [[Tina VanderWaal]] [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Gracesmom.png messaged him, asking him to leave their family alone,] Daniel responded with a threat against his own life. Below are several messages from Daniel showcasing these tendencies. <blockquote>"I understand

I'm ending my life tonight

Everyone has messed up everything.

I understand what you and your family..."</blockquote>Other than suicidal threats, Daniel does not usually threaten regular self harm. It seems to be a spontaneous reaction, likely as a result of [[Daniel Larson's health|autism]]. Daniel often posts that he is hitting himself; but it is unknown if he actually ''is'' hitting himself when he makes these posts.

== Other Examples ==

* Punching himself during the [[December 10th Incident|December 10th]] Incident, to the point of his nose bleeding.
* Picking his scabs, such as the the one he had received during the [[Bodega Incident]], however many people pick their scabs.
* A video from the June 25 Likee Meltdown video shows Daniel furiously punching himself before saying, “If you don’t let me on the team now,” before starting to cry.
* Daniel hitting himself in the head very hard after Jakob VanderWaal told him to stop talking about [[Grace VanderWaal|his sister]]. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref>
* Punching himself during the June 10, 22, and 23 meltdowns. Daniel punched himself the most during the June 22 Meltdown.
* Punching and banging his head into the walls during the October 16 Incident.
* Daniel hitting himself in some parts of the video during the Casino Bathroom Meltdown. The hitting in the video took place outside after he was kicked out.
* Daniel punching himself in one of the videos recorded during the [[Häagen-Dazs Incident]].
* Daniel punching himself, slamming his head on the walls, and later a sidewalk during the [[August 29th Meltdown]] on YouTube live.
* Daniel punched, kicked and rammed his head against several walls in a motel he was staying at while screaming "Bob just ran me over with his car" over the [[August 31st Incident]].
* Daniel hitting himself during the [[Panera Bread Incident]]. Daniel even used 2 hands together to punch himself at 1:52-1:54.
* Daniel hitting himself after being [[Fart Spray Incident|drenched with fart spray.]]
* Daniel hitting himself in the head and groin during the [[April 6th Meltdown]].

Likee Meltdown

2025-02-10T23:49:22Z

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The '''Likee Meltdown,''' also known as '''Rest in Peace Dave and Grace VanderWaal''', was Daniel's first online meltdown and one of the earliest known [[incidents]] in the [[Daniel Larson]] story, occurring on June 25, 2021, and ending on the 26th.

Unlike subsequent meltdowns, this one was not in a single video. Instead, it is a series of clips posted on Likee, a video-posting platform Daniel used due to not having access to his phone, along with a YouTube video titled '''Rest in peace dave and grace vanderwaal'''.

The meltdown surrounds Daniel using Likee in an effort to reach out to his current [[management]], and most notably, the "VanderWaal Team", before eventually spiraling into a mental breakdown.

This was due to him being convinced by [[trolls]] that [[Grace VanderWaal]], his longtime crush, had died, and the VanderWaal family was withholding information about his event. However, things took a sharp turn as Daniel began frantically demanding to be "let back on the team", threatening his own life and hitting his head, and fearing he would become [[Homeless Era|homeless]]. Daniel soon starts blaming an unidentified individual known only as “JP”, and a caretaker,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/comment/jj3n5bc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref> for "all of this". The day after this, he uploaded a video saying that the police were on their way.

Adding to the weirdness, it is unclear what happened before or after the incident concluded. In addition to the confusion, JP's response video to the Likee Meltdown (at least according to comments on reddit) was subsequently lost.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/o9dvd7/who_is_jp/</ref>

== Video ==

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== Transcript ==
'''[Daniel is seen wearing a blue shirt, June 25, 2021]'''

{{Red|Daniel:}} Hello, this is Daniel Larson. My phone ended up breaking last night when everything was going on. I was tossing the phone in the air and it ended up, um, the screen ended up going blank and it showed static. So please, if you get this message, know that I'm currently trying. You can contact me through here. Unfortunately, I will have to give video updates.

{{Red|Daniel:}} This message goes out to the VanderWaal family. Please pray for the VanderWaal family. They're currently in critical condition.

{{Red|Daniel:}} This message goes out to the VanderWaal team. I am currently trying everything I could possibly try. Even though my phone broke, I have still gotten out the message. I will give more updates as I go, but unfortunately, I'm without a phone right now. And so I'm currently doing everything by laptop, but fortunately it will not let me message as of right now, so I can only do videos. But please stay tuned. I will try to give updates and I'll try to get everything situated.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Hello, this is Daniel Larson. This is a state of emergency order to the VanderWaal team. Please make another video and post it on all social *burp* media platforms and say, please pray for the VanderWaal family. Please pray, pray for the VanderWaal family. They're in critical condition and leave it there. I want pictures of the entire family. Please post now.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Hello, this is Daniel Larson. Please let me know if there's anything I could do to help. Please ask the VanderWaal team what I need to do to help and also to rank up in the company.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Hello to Daniel Larson team and my record label. There's currently a situation. [[Social Media Accounts|Google and YouTube]] are not letting me use them. I don't know what's going on. I thought we had an agreement. But unfortunately, I lost all access to making new Google accounts. I currently am stuck. I have no way of contacting you.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Likee is not letting me post.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Hey Josh and Jay, please contact JP now. We have an emergency.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Please message me Josh. Please send Jay and Bob the contract for Party House. They need to see it. They need proof for the investigation.

{{Red|Daniel:}} [[Daniel and the Law|The police]] are about to be called into the situation. We still are getting zero responses.

'''[The lighting in the room has changed, Daniel switches to YouTube. Lead up to the meltdown]'''

{{Red|Daniel:}} Grace is going to want this video- thing that I've done. I admit to sexting minors, and... sexting Grace, and sending Grace a dick pic. I'm sorry for putting Grace through so much stress... that she takes her own life and has a heart attack.

'''[Sigh]''' Her words to me was- her last words to me was: "Daniel, I look up to you. But you make wrong choices. I know you could do pletter- better. I know you could do better. Please do better for me. I want you to carry off your legacy for me- My legacy for me. I don't know if I'm going to make it through the night." And my response to her was yes. I would carry on her legacy. And that's what I'm currently doing. Grace, rest in peace.

I don't know if you're getting this message. But if you got this message, you have any- you can always be welcome to come to my house. I don't know if- in heaven you can see everything. I don't know, but you're always welcome to be here. And I'm sorry for everything that has happened. Maybe one day, when I die, we can finally meet and I can apologize. But right now, I'm worried about clearing this up and fixing what I've done. That's why I'm making a YouTube video right now. But I will tell you, I'm not going to sit here and do thousands of YouTube videos like I've been doing right now, I'm just doing this one video to try to clear things up. I'm just trying to get the word out. I'm sorry, Grace. You should have never dealt with this. You should have never gone through this. You should have never had a heart attack. I'm so sorry. But I promise, I will do what you said, and I will carry this on, and I will carry your legacy. And I'll put my music and everything moving forward under you, because you're a hero.

You saved my life. And that's what I'm going to do. You chose to take yourself off life support. You fought for me. And I will not give up. The entire VanderWaal family is wishing you to rest in peace. And I am currently getting used to everything. But I have your mother, Tina VanderWaal's, help. And now I have you from above looking down on me. And Dave, all in my heart. We will make it through this, no matter what. Rest in peace, Dave and Grace VanderWaal. The one and only, Dave and Grace VanderWaal.

'''[Daniel is now wearing a green shirt. The lighting in the room now appears to be from daylight. Daniel switches back to Likee, he is visibly distressed. The meltdown begins]'''

{{Red|Daniel:}} Guys, check out my YouTube now, and please comment. Check out my YouTube now, and please comment. If I get the response, I will take it all down. This is my only source right now. Do it ''now'', or I [''quieter''] commit suicide.

{{Red|Daniel:}} This is Daniel Larson. JP threatened to kill me to do all this. Please let me back on the team ''now'', or I commit suicide.

{{Red|Daniel:}} I can't take this! I can't take this! I can't take this!

{{Red|Daniel:}} Josh, Dave, VanderWaal family. Please, and I hope you're seeing this right now, please. I can't take this much longer. I'm about to commit suicide.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Emergency, emergency!

{{Red|Daniel:}} Josh, Jay, VanderWaal family. Please look at my latest YouTube. Please look at my latest YouTube!

{{Red|Daniel:}} I am fighting, but this is my only source of contact! And to know that right now, that you get it, please message me. Please message me now!

{{Red|Daniel:}} If you guys start messaging me on YouTube so I know what the fuck is going on, and I know I'm being heard, then I will start taking the videos down. But until then, I want to make sure that they get heard by you guys.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Guys, message me now on YouTube. ''Now.'' '''''Now!''''' I'm starting to get fucking angry! My... JP is currently in big trouble because he forced me to do this. He threatened to fucking murder me. If you guys let me join the team now, I will sit here and I will fight. I will make videos on Likee for the rest of the night to spread the message. But you have to... you have to bear with me. You guys are gonna have to fight. I'm fighting right now.

{{Red|Daniel:}} ''Now'', guys. It's an emergency. Now, guys.

{{Red|Daniel:}} I will not take the videos down until I get on the team fully. I will not back down. This is my only source of contact right now, and by you guys commenting on my YouTube videos, that's the only way right now I know that you guys are hearing me.

{{Red|Daniel:}} Josh, I will call you in a bit.

{{Red|Daniel:}} I am trying everything I can. Please message me on YouTube. I need to know what's going on. It's my only source of communication. I'm trying to get the message across that it was all an accident. JP forced me. He threatened to kill me. I had to, otherwise he would have killed me.

{{Red|Daniel:}} I don't know what else to say, guys. I'm telling the fucking truth. And you guys are not doing anything I ask. I don't know what to fucking believe anymore. I'm done. I'm gonna be homeless before we flippin' know it. I'm gonna be fucking homeless. And it's all thanks to fucking JP.

{{Red|Daniel:}} The faster you guys respond, the faster we can take the videos down!

{{Red|Daniel:}} ''[hyperventilating]'' I demand being on the VanderWaal team. I demand. I demand. I repent! I repent! I repent! I repent!

{{Red|Daniel:}} Look at my last YouTube video, guys. ''Now!'' It's getting worse, and I'm about to have a panic attack!

{{Red|Daniel:}} Guys, I don't know what's going on. No one is messaging me. I don't know what's being said. Can I at least get some flippin' updates so I can start taking some videos down?

{{Red|Daniel:}} ''[sobbing]'' What happened to my support? What happened to my team? What happened to everybody!?

{{Red|Daniel:}} Everyone on the entire team and everyone who is seeing this. Message Josh ''now''. The only reason why I'm posting this is because I'm trying to get this heard. I want on the team ''now'''''!''' Do not block me on all social medias or I will fucking die.

{{Red|Daniel:}} ''[hyperventilating]'' I'm currently under attack! Please! Please! Please! ''[checks door''] I'm currently under attack. You need to let me on the team now!

{{Red|Daniel:}} I don't know what to do. Please let me on the team. I can't do anything. I want out. I want out!

{{Red|Daniel:}} I will take down two videos on YouTube to show that I care! I will take down two!

{{Red|Daniel:}} It's not letting me into my email! It's not letting me into my email because I don't have my phone number! It's not sending a verification to my phone!

{{Red|Daniel:}} This is my only source of communication right now. For email, it wants my phone number for verification. Please, all I need is an answer. Yes, you're on the team and then everything will get taken down. I'm trying to call Josh but it won't be until later because I have to go all the way to the store just to do it.

{{Red|Daniel:}} ''[hits himself]'' If you don't let me on the team now... I'm gonna have to die! I'm gonna have to stop! I don't know! I'm trying everything! ''[continues hitting himself]''

{{Red|Daniel:}} I will take down all videos but one I'm gonna take down all videos but one on YouTube please please fucking believe me please comment on the YouTube so I fucking know you guys are listening in the fucking fact that I'm trying all I want is to help all

{{Red|Daniel:}} I want is to be on the team so I can get a life I have started deleting videos on YouTube but please trust me I need a comment now I want to be with the team Jamie I mean JP is currently in big trouble with the police for what he did.

'''[The day after the meltdown]'''

{{Red|Daniel:}} [Daniel's ''shirt has changed, door has opened, he has calmed down bit]'' Police are currently on their way. I will give updates shortly.

== External Links ==
{{Incidents}}

== References ==

File:Hittingmyself.mp4

2025-02-10T23:47:09Z

TheHighKing: Gif not acceptable 😔

== Summary ==
Gif not acceptable 😔

Kanye556

2025-02-10T03:47:34Z

TheHighKing: Recfenz

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== Overview ==
[[File:Kanye56.jpeg|thumb|A picture of Kanye556]]
Kanye556, often referred to as an [[Aiopm|AIOPM]], is a successful YouTuber, TikToker, and rapper that was first mentioned in "Larson Library", a [[Daniel Larson]] [[Daniel Larson Communities|discord server]]. He is a similar figure to Daniel Larson, which is how they first made contact.

After collaborating on several musical projects, including [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmYsiBMfRvM "Retards in Paris,"] Kanye556 and Daniel unexpectedly became enemies. The falling out led to Kanye556 leaking Daniel's phone number and Daniel responding with insults and berating comments. This feud escalated into a declaration of war, reminiscent of [[The Flexburger War]].

== Diss Tracks ==
Shortly after the release of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmYsiBMfRvM "Retards In Paris,"] Kanye556 released a diss track on Daniel titled [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu9gJkFOLz0 "Victory Royale"] on June 10, 2022.

In response to this track, on August 2, 2022, Daniel released his own diss track on Kanye556, titled [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVbZtZjfCc "Sunshine."] Daniel also later [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PKGHqSYBgjM threatened to call the Secret Service.]

== Aftermath ==
Despite having declared war on Kanye556, on February 28, 2023 a collaboration between Daniel and Kanye556 released, titled [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj4FShACLEM "boat"]. It was presumably recorded before the two had ended their partnership as there have been no signs of peace being made between the two since.

The last mention of Daniel Larson by Kanye556 was in May of 2023, where he freestyled and referenced Daniel Larsons' pedophilia<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@kanye556entertainment/video/7229135853556092203?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7266593322087974443</ref>.

== References ==

Daniel and Race

2025-02-08T22:26:55Z

TheHighKing: Adding that he does not know what a jew is.

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The '''race''' of people is often considered a sensitive topic, especially for [[Daniel Larson|Daniel.]] He has displayed and demonstrated many instances of intolerance and racist behavior against various individuals and communities, sometimes intentional, and unintentional. His racism most likely comes from several sources, as no concrete one can be found, such as his parental upbringing, isolated formative years, naivety, and desperation to fit in. African-Americans, or black people, are a common target for his xenophobia.

However, it is important to note that, while few and far between, some of his actions and statements may have been prompted by bad actors manipulating him, such as [[Manipulators|trolls]] or [[management]]. Other factors may suggest that he is not necessarily racist, but rather has a poor understanding of race, and more importantly, the impact of slurs brought on by his [[Daniel Larson's health|disabilities]].

== Daniel and stereotypes ==
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Daniel's views of other cultures is difficult to gauge, as in one breath, he will express support for a race's cause (EX: Black Lives Matter), and in the same breath, shout the n-word at those he disagrees with.

=== Black people ===
[[Self Defense Word|As noted]], Daniel is notably racist towards black people, or African-Americans. It has been displayed mostly through his use of the n-word, almost always with a hard-r. Daniel has used "nigga" or "nigger" very frequently, rarely seeing the problem in doing so. Daniel has said this word multiple times in multiple contexts, either out of anger, frustration, or to anyone he does not like in general.

When he was told it was not okay to say the slur, Daniel's response was, “True unless it’s because you are really scared for your safety.” {{Citation Needed}}This statement does not make sense, especially given Daniel has also used the slur in situations where nobody is around, using it as a descriptor for the way people act. Daniel believes that the N-word has "self defense" properties, believing when he says it, his assailant will become confused as to why he said it. This confusion could serve to reduce the immediate tension between Daniel & the assailant. This has led to the community deeming it as his "'''tactical word'''" or "'''self defense word'''". Though, this seems to not work in his favor most of the time.

On May 13th, 2022 Daniel called what seems to be a Latino man [[The N Word|the N-word]] after a dispute over him trespassing on the man's property to charge his phone. In response, the man threatened to "fuck Daniel up" if he did not remove himself from the property that instant.

Despite his use of it, Daniel is not known to have used the slur, or any racial slur in general, towards anyone of African-American persuasion.

=== Jewish people ===
It can be assumed that antisemitism was introduced to Daniel by his former manager [[Samantha]]. During her tenure, she trolled him using the character of [[Goldberg Shacklestein]], an antisemitic charicature of a Jewish man, who was allegedly the "Leader of the Jews."

Near the beginning of Daniel's feud with fellow lolcow [[World of T-Shirts]], Daniel made several antisemitic TikToks directed at him.

== Troll manipulation ==
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==Notable incidents==

===Porch Charging Incident ===
''(see [[Porch Charging Incident]])''

On May 13th, 2022 Daniel called what seems to be a Latino man [[The N Word|the N-word]] after a dispute over him trespassing on the man's property to charge his phone.

''(from 3:34 of the video, red is the property owner)''
<blockquote>Get the fuck off my property!

They're coming for you, you stupid fuck!

Don't you understand?

If you-

Why are you fucking here?!

If you put one hand on me-

Get the fuck out of here!

Okay, nigger.

...really? So it's gonna be like that?

Y-you're threatening me!-

'''GET THE FUCK OFF MY PROPERTY!'''

I-I don't know if you're going to put hands on me-

Did you just call me a fucking nigger?</blockquote>After this video was posted, Daniel defended his use of the N-word saying ''"it’s [OK to say nigger] because you are really scared for your safety"'', with him not understanding that saying the N-word will escalate any sort of altercation.

===Nick-gur TikTok live===
Trolls often target Daniel by naming their accounts "Nick-gur" in an attempt to get Daniel to say the [[The N Word|N-word]]. These usually worked until Daniel started catching them on, and in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OCINCmAr2Eo one infamous TikTok live], called out the Nick-gur trolls.<blockquote>You are a bitch! Nick-Gur!

Do you think I'm stupid enough?

Like, I know exactly what the fuck you're talking about.

Your name is Nick-last name-Gur!

Put it together: nigger!

...bitch.</blockquote>

==Targeted use==

===Slur usage ===

It is unknown if Daniel fully understands the impact of slurs against people. He has defended his use of slurs by saying that it is okay to use them under duress. Daniel has said on numerous occasions that he uses a slur as a ‘self-defense-word.’[Citation Needed] Daniel will use slurs maliciously if he is very angry or melting down at someone, like the time he called [[Andrew]] the N Word.

=== Black people===
The bulk of Daniel's racism is directed at people with darker skin, that is, usually against black people. Daniel often uses the [[The N Word|the N-word]] when confronting Africans.

===Jews===
Daniel is particularly racist against Jews. Daniel has been manipulated into believing racist conspiracy theories against Jews like the New World Order. Daniel believes that the Jews, specifically a man named [[Goldberg Shacklestein]] , are after him. He thinks that World Of T-shirts is Jewish as he has negatively called him a Jew repeatedly. More information can be found under [[The Anti-Semetic Incident|The Anti-Semitic Incident]]. Despite all of that, Daniel is a supporter of Israel, which is more evidence that Daniel has no political opinions of his own, because his opinions are spoonfed to him and he does not understand what he supposedly believes, as evident by the fact that "his" opinions often contradict eachother.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/175ugj9/ok_guys_how_do_we_convince_him_that_the/</ref>

== Grace Troll ==
A fake Grace VanderWaal portrayed by a troll was making threats and demeaning comments toward Daniel over text. He uploaded a YouTube short, calling Grace the slur. <blockquote>This message is to Grace: Grace is a fucking nick-er, and hater, and I will always hate her now because of what she did.</blockquote>He later went live having a full-blown meltdown, titling the stream "Proof for n****r grace vanderwaal I am hitting myself until I bleed"

== Fight with Bob ==
In his 2nd fight with Bob Proctor, Daniel has called him the slur at least twice.<blockquote>If you fucking hit me nigger!

(After Bob shoves Daniel out of his car) HOLY FUCKING HELL! YOU RAN OVER ME! FUCKER! FUCKER NIGGER! YOU FUCKING RAN OVER ME FUCKER!</blockquote>When Daniel started to have a meltdown in his motel, he used the slur at Bob. Note how nobody is in the motel but him.<blockquote>Fucking Bitch Nigger! Fucking Bitch, Bob is a Bitch Bob is a Bitch</blockquote>

== Panera Bread ==
[[Panera Bread Incident|On Friday, November 10 2023]], Daniel had [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17sn3ks/ah_yes_a_high_quality_video_has_been_located/ a meltdown at a Panera Bread], during which he screamed the N-word multiple times. <blockquote>I never did anything; fucking press charges on me, nigger! NIGGER! I never did anything! [...] I have a fucking lawyer, nigger! Nigger! ''NIGGER''! You just wanna fucking hate on me! [...] I wanna fucking die; I wanna fucking die, bitch! Bitch-ass NIGGER! Bitch-ass NIGGER!<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17sn3ks/ah_yes_a_high_quality_video_has_been_located/</ref>

— Daniel Larson (circa 1:55–2:47)</blockquote>Daniel's outburst was triggered by "fans" filming him and taking photos.

== April 6th Meltdown ==
On [[April 6th Meltdown|April 6, 2024]], Daniel had a massive meltdown less than an hour after he was kicked out of a Buffalo Wild Wings, in which he called Bob the slur four times whilst making threats toward him and other government entities.<blockquote>'''''FUCK YOU N****R!! FUCK YOU BOB!! FUCK YOU N****R!!! I WILL BOMB YOUR HOUSE TILL THE DAY YOU FUCKING DIE!!!!'''''

You're a fucking n****r Bob, you're a fucking n****r!</blockquote>

== References ==

Daniel and politics

2025-02-08T15:39:18Z

TheHighKing: Adding that he supports israrl

[[Daniel Larson]] has a history of '''political activism''' that spans several years, during which he has expressed a range of opinions on various issues. While some of these opinions are conflicting or not well-thought-out, they nevertheless reflect Larson's engagement with political issues and his efforts to voice his views.

== BLM ==
[[File:Be a lem.jpg|thumb|317x317px]]Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a loosely organized political and social activism campaign that sought to combat racial inequality in the United States. The campaign has existed since 2013 but gained popularity after the killing of George Floyd in 2020. It is notably the main organizer behind the George Floyd protests.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter</ref> The movement is controversial with right-leaning and non-violent speakers due to it being the face of many destructive riots spurred by the murder of George Floyd and other victims of primarily police brutality.

=== Support of BLM ===
Daniel, almost directly after knowledge of the George Floyd incident hit the public, made a video of him doing [[Jumping Jacks]],<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/vdhsg9/rip_george_floyd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref> declaring:<blockquote>''"This is for George Floyd. Rest in peace. Black lives matter."''

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</blockquote>He would make another video soon after during the [[The Fog|Fog era]], sending an ominous message stating:<blockquote>''"Rest in peace, George Floyd. The police should be terminated"''</blockquote>''It should be noted Daniel is in most cases anti- police due to his several negative interactions with them.''

==== Hypocrisy ====
Daniel, despite declaring his approval for this leftist organization meant to combat racism, is a prominent [[Daniel Larson's Racism|racist]] himself who has made not only derogatory comments about multiple racial groups but of George Floyd himself, naming one of his cryptic [[Daniel Larson Codes|codes]] after Floyd.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12i5hqw/code_george_floyd/</ref> It is unclear what lead to a pivot in Daniel’s opinions on Floyd.

== Anti-Cyberbullying Campaign ==
Daniel is a constant target of trolling and harassment for a multitude of reasons, such as his [[pedophilia]], his insane and [[Daniel's acts of violence|violent]] actions, and his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness]] which prevents him from responding rationally to trolling. He has stated multiple times that trolls and reddit moderators need to be doxxed and that the [[r/Daniellarson]] Subreddit needs to be shut down due to them bullying him, although he has stated that the [[Daniel Larson Wiki]] should stay up. He does like certain Daniel subreddits more, such as [[R/daniellarsonfans]] and the Discord server Daniel Larson World.

He has stated that he is in support of making trolling and cyberbullying illegal.

== Presidential Campaign ==
[[File:Daniel-Larson-for-President.png|thumb|237x237px|Presidential campaign poster]]Daniel announced on July 14th, 2020 during the 2020 presidential elections that he would be running for president of the United States.

He has never expressed what party he belongs to or what kind of policies he would instill as president. However, there are some known opinions he has.

'''His policies are:'''

* Securing our borders from attacks
* Bringing the US population together
* [[Pedophilia|To lower the age of consent]]
* Make trolling illegal
'''His general ideals and political beliefs are:'''
* He is in opposition of the Russian government
* He is both racist and anti-racist in a virtue-signaling kind of way
* He is a skew leftist, although he has some conservative views
* He is vaguely libertarian, except in speech
* He has stated he is against Donald Trump and aligns himself with Kamila Harris and Joe Biden, though this is HIGHLY debatable due to him voicing support for Trump repeatedly in 2023. He seems to change opinions on it frequently, mostly due to whatever ween manipulated in his ill mind.

== Various Political Statements ==
[[File:BrittenyGriner.jpg|thumb|Photo of Brittney]]

=== Brittney Griner Deal ===
On February 17, 2022, Brittney Griner was detained at the Sheremetyevo International Airport in Russia after smuggling 0.5 grams of hash oil into the country, her alleging that it was an accident.

After a short amount of trialing, Griner plead guilty and was given 7 years of imprisonment and a fine of 1 million rubles (~$16,000 USD), even though the sentencing for less than two grams was supposed to be punished by 15 days imprisonment.

Viktor Bout, nicknamed the ''Merchant of Death'', is a notorious Russian arms dealer who supplied multiple militant and terrorist groups, was controversially traded for Griner in a deal with the US government. Viktor would later be released, and so was Griner.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout%E2%80%93Brittney_Griner_prisoner_exchange</ref>

In early December of 2022, Daniel made a video about the deal, him knowing so little about it he thought that Griner was traded for weapons rather than a weapons dealer.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/zgsx4h/mr_president_has_released_a_statement/</ref> He was opposed to the deal, him commenting:<blockquote>''"I think the arms deal with Russia, in exchange for Brittney Griner, was a dangerous move. I wanna know what 'arms' we're talking about, what weapons we're talking about here, because we are ready."''</blockquote>
[[File:Ukraine.jpg|thumb|342x342px]]

=== Ukrainian War ===
The war in Ukraine is an ongoing war occurring between Russia and Ukraine that started in early 2022 and had a long and complex history behind it that Daniel does not understand.

Daniel has voiced support for Ukraine and has voiced opposition to Russia in various, usually naïve ways. He has stated that we need to destroy Russia, charge Russia with murder (if he's referring to the entire Russian population, the Russian government, or Putin himself is unclear), and that Putin should be arrested.

Daniel has also stated interest in going to Ukraine, but these are definitely troll-influenced empty promises.

=== Age of Consent Laws ===
Daniel, being a [[Pedophilia|pedophile]], has stated that he is in favor of lowering age of consent laws in the United States. He has also stated that CP should be legal with permission of the parent. It is possible that a troll influenced him to say this, though there is no confirmation of this.

=== War in Israel ===
Daniel is a supporter of Israel.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/175ugj9/ok_guys_how_do_we_convince_him_that_the/</ref>

=== Vague mentions ===
There are many small, possibly troll-influenced things Daniel says in his many, many videos on the internet.

An example of this could be the Larson quote "Free R Kelly". This statement refers to R Kelly, a popular R&B singer, who was arrested and charged with human trafficking, racketeering, statutory rape, and enticement.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Kelly#Abuse_scandals_and_court_cases</ref> This was probably influenced by trolls.

== References ==
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[[Category:Daniel]]

Daniel in the media

2025-02-08T01:31:49Z

TheHighKing: Adding a news article a out dan

April 6th Meltdown

2025-02-07T22:39:44Z

TheHighKing: Adding flavor text.

{{CW}} {{Quote|KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL!! MURDER!!!||author=[[Daniel]], during the meltdown}}
The '''April 6th Meltdown''' was a significant meltdown that occurred on April 6, 2024 around 4:00 PM MDT (22:00 UTC), during the [[Homeless Era]]. Daniel displayed an unusually high level of anger during the meltdown, yelling in a guttural tone instead of his trademark high-pitched "Mickey Mouse" voice seen in other meltdowns, to the point where he was foaming at the mouth. However, there was less self-harm than most meltdowns. The meltdown was instigated by a combination of factors, including being kicked out of Buffalo Wild Wings as well as an exchange with a troll impersonating [[Bob Proctor|Bob Proctor.]] The meltdown featured him making specific terroristic threats against Bob Proctor as well as numerous government entities, which would end up being a factor in his [[Second Jail Arc|arrest]] only 24 days later.

Daniel had another meltdown the same day, although it was less intense and was triggered by trolls. The second meltdown took place about two hours later.

The content of the meltdown included: screeching, minor [[Self Harm|self-harm]], usage of the [[The N Word|N-word]], and extreme violent/terroristic threats including bomb threats. The '''April 6th Meltdown''' is considered to be one of the more extreme meltdowns Daniel has had to date, with similarities to the [[August 29th Meltdown]]. The meltdown also serves as one of the most clear examples of Daniel’s [[Daniel and Mental Health|debilitating mental health]]. Daniel live streamed the entire chain of events to his [[Social Media Accounts|YouTube channel]], with the first meltdown being swiftly taken down by either him or YouTube, although the less extreme second meltdown can still be accessed on YouTube.

The April 6th Meltdown was considered to be the most intense meltdown that Daniel ever had. The aura of intimidation and wrath he has in the video is enhanced by the windy audio, grey sky, and snot hanging and pouring out of his [[Beak]].

== Background ==
The meltdown appears to have a been a culmination of multiple factors. Leading up to the meltdown, Daniel was kicked out of a Buffalo Wild Wings as part of a troll-orchestrated fabrication of him securing a job interview there. In a brief livestream, Daniel appears distressed and is running away from the restaurant. He insinuates that the police have been called after an attempt to [[Criminal History|Dine-and-Dash]]. The original video on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHDPtxEJEng YouTube] was titled "Daniel Larson just got his new job threatened by the manager at Buffalo wild wings 😡", but the "job" was fabricated by [[trolls]], likely in an attempt to instigate an incident.<ref>https://archive.org/details/buffalo-wild-wings-kickout</ref>

Right before the meltdowns occurred, Daniel posted multiple disturbingly detailed images of his of [[Trench Foot|trench foot]] on his community tab, as well as multiple audio recordings of him talking to his doctor regarding his trench foot. Despite the pain and suffering caused by his lack of hygiene, Daniel still insisted on walking at least 20 miles to Boulder Colorado in order to attend court there, complaining frequently about his trench foot in multiple livestreams and community posts during this time. April 6th was also an extremely cold and windy day in Colorado, this is believed to have been a major factor in his meltdown.

Technically there were two separate meltdowns occurring on the same day, about an hour apart, both in the format of YouTube livestreams. The first livestream, by the far the most extreme, was about 5 minutes long and was quickly taken down by YouTube.

Daniel started a stream titled "Bob help me NOW" around 4:00 pm. The video begins with Daniel saying he needs help, before suddenly going into a full-blown rage, hitting the ground, and screeching twice before flipping off the camera, calling [[Bob Proctor|Bob]] the [[The N Word|N-word]] and threatening to "bomb his house till the day he dies". He repeatedly yells "bomb", "kill", and "murder" to express his frustration with "Bob" and entities he believes to be persecuting him. Daniel frequently screams threatening phrases and hits himself during meltdowns, likely due to autism impacting his ability to process negative emotions. He further threatens to bomb "every police station in the world" and federal entities including the White House, the "Feds", and [[Trolls|Daniel MacDougall]]. A well-known moment of the April 6th Meltdown occurs when he mimics the motion of a bomb dropping with his arm, coinciding perfectly with a gust of wind, creating an effect reminiscent of "airbending." <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fsgstt/this_is_a_message_to_daniel_mcdougal/</ref> Daniel's mouth, face and even hair becomes coated in his own windblown saliva and snot, while displaying his trademark "angry tongue". He hits the ground and his groin repeatedly towards the end of the stream. It should be noted that the "Bob" involved in this incident was a [[Trolls|troll]] that instigated the meltdown. [[Bob Proctor]] cut ties with Daniel in late 2023, after a second incident involving Daniel assaulting Bob in his car. The video was recorded in an extremely windy environment, where portions of Daniel's speech are obscured. The clip on the right is the first 30 seconds of the incident.

The second meltdown was far less extreme and occurred at the ending section of a 30 minute long livestream.<ref>https://archive.org/details/first-30-seconds-of-april-6th</ref> This livestream can still be accessed on YouTube under the title "Daniel Larson 20 miles to Boulder Colorado". During this second meltdown, he does the Angry Tongue several times, flips the camera off, and insults Bob using obscenities before ending the livestream. This second meltdown appeared to have occurred as a result of trolls tracking him down due to him obviously showcasing his location in the background, or at least his perception of people tracking him down based on trolls in the comment section. The '''April 6th Meltdown''' took place almost a year to the day after [[Bodega Incident|Daniel was confronted in a bodega]] during the [[Travel Arc]].
==Video==

{{#evu:https://archive.org/details/april-6th-meltdown-full}}

== Transcript ==
{{collapse top|result=Transcript}}

'''First meltdown/Bob help me NOW'''

[Daniel is having a huge meltdown.]

Daniel: Oh my god, I need help! (Daniel starts hitting the ground) Ugh! ''screams'' '''''DAAAAAAH!!!!!!!''''' (angry tongue, stops for a bit) '''''AAAAAAH!!!!!''''' (hits his head, does the Angry Tongue and flips off the camera) [screaming in rage] '''''FUCK YOU NIGGER!!!!!''''' '''FUCK YOU BOB!!!! FUCK YOU NIGGER!!!!''' (his nose is visibly runny) '''''I WILL BOMB YOUR HOUSE TILL THE DAY YOU FUCKING DIE!!!!!!!!''''' '''BOMB YOU!!! BOMB YOU!!!! BOMB YOU!!! BOMB YOU!!! KILL YOU!!! KILL YOU!!! KILL YOU!!! CALL THE FEDS ON ME, YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!'''

[Daniel hits himself in the head once]

Daniel: '''BOMB!!!! BOMB!!! BOMB!!!! BOMB YOU!!!! BOMB YOU!!!! BOMB YOU!!!!''' (groans, hits his head some more) '''KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL!! YOU'RE A FUCKING NIGGER BOB! YOU'RE A FUCKING NIGGER!!!''' KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL!!! KILL! MURDER! KILL!! KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL!! KILL FUCKING MURDER!! MURDER!! This is a message to every fucking police station IN THE WORLD!! FUCKING KILL KILL KILL!!! KILL! MURDER!! This is a message to the fucking feds! If you fucking don't listen to me, I will fucking kill you too! Murder! Bomb you! The fucking White House too! Bomb you! Go ahead and ban my channel! (gravelly voice) Make sure I'm homeless for the rest of my fucking life!

[Daniel hits himself in the head more]

Daniel: You did this to yourself bitch! You did this all to your fucking self! Bomb, bomb, bomb! Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb!!!! Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb!!! Kill kill kill kill kill!! (hits his head more, death metal growl) This is a message to Daniel MacDougall! You didn't listen to Bob and me, and this is what you get! (moves arm like a bomb dropping) BOMB!! AAAAGH! (hits his leg for 5 seconds) Go ahead and take away my housing, bitch! Go ahead and take away my housing! I will bomb the White House if you do! (voice calms down) Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill!! Kill kill kill!

'''Second meltdown/Daniel Larson 20 miles to Boulder Colorado'''

Daniel: (after being relatively calm for a while) Shut the fuck up and don't tell me to run!

[stops for a while, angry tongue, heavy breathing, flipping off the camera while doing the angry tongue as well as a weird face]

Daniel: Fuck... fuck! (hits his head a bit, then flips off the camera while running and doing the angry tongue, more heavy breathing) My god!! Bob, help! Bob, help! Fuck you Bob! Help! Oh my god! Fuck you bitch! Fuck you Bob! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU!! [ends stream]
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== External Links ==
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== References ==
[[Category:Incidents]]

Tina VanderWaal

2025-02-07T13:14:05Z

TheHighKing: Neat

{{Doxxing}}
{{Contact|Both [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him.}}
{{Quote|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.|4=Tina to Daniel after months of harassment}}

'''Tina VanderWaal''' is the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson]] was .stalking and harassing. Daniel messaged her only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm|threatened suicide]].

Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out.

== Prior Events ==
Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violates a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]

== DMs with Daniel ==
In July 2022, Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace VanderWaal, who were all actually catfishes made up by trolls.

Daniel asked Tina to reply as soon as possible. She responded firmly the next morning, saying:<blockquote>''"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "'' </blockquote>Daniel would respond idiotically, saying:<blockquote>'''"I understand'''

'''I'm ending my life tonight'''

'''Everyone has messed up everything.'''

'''I understand what you and your family-"'''</blockquote>The rest of his message is cut off.

Daniel would mention this comment in the first call during [[Jail Arc 2]].

== YouTube Comment ==
On August 13th, 2022 the YouTube account [https://www.youtube.com/@waalstudio_art "Waal Studio"] left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago, however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. Frustrated, she warns Daniel once again to stop mentioning Grace (and her family), stating that the other accounts under her name are trolls. <blockquote>''"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."''</blockquote>This comment also mentions the previous incident where Tina replied to one of many of Daniel's texts.

Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded once more, to Daniel's first reply, asking:<blockquote>'''"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"'''</blockquote>Tina's response is far from unpredictable. <blockquote>''"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to [[DDRC]] as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."''</blockquote>Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens more times. They were ignored by Tina.<blockquote>'''"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused'''

'''I am willing to keep trying but I would have to start new. I hope you understand'''

'''I am so sorry for everything"'''</blockquote>

== Contact with Fan ==
{{Contact|Both [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him.}}
On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he is talking about Grace a lot, and having delusions that he will definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref><blockquote>'''"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"'''</blockquote>Tina replied that evening.<blockquote>''"Yes I am"''</blockquote>The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>'''"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family.'''

'''I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."'''</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>''"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."''</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read, and did not reply to the comment.

== Second YouTube Video ==
On March 26, 2023, 7 months after Tina's last response, Daniel Larson NYC posted a short titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." He says that Tina and Dave told him he was safe from the FBI and police if he stays in contact with them. However, Tina, using the Waal Studio account, is clearly angry, and tells him to stop talking about them once again with the threat of being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> It is also possible she was warned about Daniel making a trip to New York City in the coming weeks for fear he would look for Grace.<blockquote>''"Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.''

''Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense."''</blockquote>Daniel would reply 10 times, begging her for a second chance. These were ignored.<blockquote>'''"Please help I really really am trying. Please just understand this is serious and I just want you to understand what I am going through. Please give me a chance. I turned of my TikTok comments. I can't stop crying today"''' </blockquote>

== YouTube Community Tab Posts ==

=== First Interaction ===
On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help donate, with a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:<blockquote>''"Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke."''</blockquote>Daniel would reply dozens of times, ignoring the severity of the situation. Tina ignored them. He would make similar posts later that day.<blockquote>'''"Thank you Tina I'm on your side. The fans don't listen to me at all and everything about me is not true I need your help. I don't know what to do I'm becoming very very upset. Tina how can I help right now this is extremely serious and is ruining everything in my life? Tina I am extremely sorry you are grace have to put up with this. Waal Studio I don't think you understand. I've tried to contact you but Ivan told me that you were a troll. This is serious you don't even know anything about me yet"'''</blockquote>

=== Second Interaction ===
On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina has sent to Daniel as of 2024.<blockquote>''"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."''</blockquote>Daniel did not reply to her comment.

Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still continues to mention Tina and Grace frequently, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina, along with Grace want absolutely no involvement with him at all.

'''DO NOT contact Tina (or any of the VanderWaals) about Daniel Larson under any circumstances.'''

== References ==

Tina VanderWaal

2025-02-07T13:13:50Z

TheHighKing: Neat

{{Doxxing}}
{{Contact|Both [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him.}}
{{Quote|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.|4=Tina to Daniel after months of harassment}}

'''Tina VanderWaal''' is the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson]] was .stalking and harassing. Daniel messaged her only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm|threatened suicide]].

Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out.

== Prior Events ==
Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violates a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]

== DMs with Daniel ==
In July 2022, Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace VanderWaal, who were all actually catfishes made up by trolls.

Daniel asked Tina to reply as soon as possible. She responded firmly the next morning, saying:<blockquote>''"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "'' </blockquote>Daniel would respond idiotically, saying:<blockquote>'''"I understand'''

'''I'm ending my life tonight'''

'''Everyone has messed up everything.'''

'''I understand what you and your family-"'''</blockquote>The rest of his message is cut off.

Daniel would mention this comment in the first call during [[Jail Arc 2]].

== YouTube Comment ==
On August 13th, 2022 the YouTube account [https://www.youtube.com/@waalstudio_art "Waal Studio"] left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago, however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. Frustrated, she warns Daniel once again to stop mentioning Grace (and her family), stating that the other accounts under her name are trolls. <blockquote>''"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."''</blockquote>This comment also mentions the previous incident where Tina replied to one of many of Daniel's texts.

Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded once more, to Daniel's first reply, asking:<blockquote>'''"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"'''</blockquote>Tina's response is far from unpredictable. <blockquote>''"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to [[DDRC]] as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."''</blockquote>Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens more times. They were ignored by Tina.<blockquote>'''"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused'''

'''I am willing to keep trying but I would have to start new. I hope you understand'''

'''I am so sorry for everything"'''</blockquote>

== Contact with Fan ==
{{Contact|Both [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him.}}
On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he is talking about Grace a lot, and having delusions that he will definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref><blockquote>'''"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"'''</blockquote>Tina replied that evening.<blockquote>''"Yes I am"''</blockquote>The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>'''"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family.'''

'''I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."'''</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>''"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."''</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read, and did not reply to the comment.

== Second YouTube Video ==
On March 26, 2023, 7 months after Tina's last response, Daniel Larson NYC posted a short titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." He says that Tina and Dave told him he was safe from the FBI and police if he stays in contact with them. However, Tina, using the Waal Studio account, is clearly angry, and tells him to stop talking about them once again with the threat of being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> It is also possible she was warned about Daniel making a trip to New York City in the coming weeks for fear he would look for Grace.<blockquote>''"Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.''

''Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense."''</blockquote>Daniel would reply 10 times, begging her for a second chance. These were ignored.<blockquote>'''"Please help I really really am trying. Please just understand this is serious and I just want you to understand what I am going through. Please give me a chance. I turned of my TikTok comments. I can't stop crying today"''' </blockquote>

== YouTube Community Tab Posts ==

=== First Interaction ===
On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help donate, with a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:<blockquote>''"Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke."''</blockquote>Daniel would reply dozens of times, ignoring the severity of the situation. Tina ignored them. He would make similar posts later that day.<blockquote>'''"Thank you Tina I'm on your side. The fans don't listen to me at all and everything about me is not true I need your help. I don't know what to do I'm becoming very very upset. Tina how can I help right now this is extremely serious and is ruining everything in my life? Tina I am extremely sorry you are grace have to put up with this. Waal Studio I don't think you understand. I've tried to contact you but Ivan told me that you were a troll. This is serious you don't even know anything about me yet"'''</blockquote>

=== Second Interaction ===
On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina has sent to Daniel as of 2024.<blockquote>''"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."''</blockquote>Daniel did not reply to her comment.

Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still continues to mention Tina and Grace frequently, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina, along with Grace want absolutely no involvement with him at all.

'''DO NOT contact Tina (or any of the VanderWaals) about Daniel Larson under any circumstances.'''

== References ==

Tina VanderWaal

2025-02-07T13:11:05Z

TheHighKing: Distinction

{{Doxxing}}
{{Contact|Both [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him.}}
{{Quote|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.|4=Tina to Daniel after months of harassment}}

'''Tina VanderWaal''' is the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson]] was .stalking and harassing. Daniel messaged her only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm|threatened suicide]].

Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out.

== Prior Events ==
Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violates a restraining order. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]

== DMs with Daniel ==
In July 2022, Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace VanderWaal, who were all actually catfishes made up by trolls.

Daniel asked Tina to reply as soon as possible. She responded firmly the next morning, saying:<blockquote>''"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "'' </blockquote>Daniel would respond idiotically, saying:<blockquote>'''"I understand'''

'''I'm ending my life tonight'''

'''Everyone has messed up everything.'''

'''I understand what you and your family-"'''</blockquote>The rest of his message is cut off.

Daniel would mention this comment in the first call during [[Jail Arc 2]].

== YouTube Comment ==
On August 13th, 2022 the YouTube account [https://www.youtube.com/@waalstudio_art "Waal Studio"] left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago, however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. Frustrated, she warns Daniel once again to stop mentioning Grace (and her family), stating that the other accounts under her name are trolls. <blockquote>''"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."''</blockquote>This comment also mentions the previous incident where Tina replied to one of many of Daniel's texts.

Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded once more, to Daniel's first reply, asking:<blockquote>'''"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"'''</blockquote>Tina's response is far from unpredictable. <blockquote>''"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to [[DDRC]] as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."''</blockquote>Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens more times. They were ignored by Tina.<blockquote>'''"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused'''

'''I am willing to keep trying but I would have to start new. I hope you understand'''

'''I am so sorry for everything"'''</blockquote>

== Contact with Fan ==
{{Contact|Both [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him.}}
On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he is talking about Grace a lot, and having delusions that he will definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref><blockquote>'''"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"'''</blockquote>Tina replied that evening.<blockquote>''"Yes I am"''</blockquote>The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>'''"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family.'''

'''I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."'''</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>''"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."''</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read, and did not reply to the comment.

== Second YouTube Video ==
On March 26, 2023, 7 months after Tina's last response, Daniel Larson NYC posted a short titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." He says that Tina and Dave told him he was safe from the FBI and police if he stays in contact with them. However, Tina, using the Waal Studio account, is clearly angry, and tells him to stop talking about them once again with the threat of being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> It is also possible she was warned about Daniel making a trip to New York City in the coming weeks for fear he would look for Grace.<blockquote>''"Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.''

''Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense."''</blockquote>Daniel would reply 10 times, begging her for a second chance. These were ignored.<blockquote>'''"Please help I really really am trying. Please just understand this is serious and I just want you to understand what I am going through. Please give me a chance. I turned of my TikTok comments. I can't stop crying today"''' </blockquote>

== YouTube Community Tab Posts ==

=== First Interaction ===
On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help donate, with a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:<blockquote>''"Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke."''</blockquote>Daniel would reply dozens of times, ignoring the severity of the situation. Tina ignored them. He would make similar posts later that day.<blockquote>'''"Thank you Tina I'm on your side. The fans don't listen to me at all and everything about me is not true I need your help. I don't know what to do I'm becoming very very upset. Tina how can I help right now this is extremely serious and is ruining everything in my life? Tina I am extremely sorry you are grace have to put up with this. Waal Studio I don't think you understand. I've tried to contact you but Ivan told me that you were a troll. This is serious you don't even know anything about me yet"'''</blockquote>

=== Second Interaction ===
On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina has sent to Daniel as of 2024.<blockquote>''"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."''</blockquote>Daniel did not reply to her comment.

Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still continues to mention Tina and Grace frequently, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina, along with Grace want absolutely no involvement with him at all.

'''DO NOT contact Tina (or any of the VanderWaals) about Daniel Larson under any circumstances.'''

== References ==

Grace VanderWaal

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TheHighKing: Neating. Kinda sad

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{{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has already endured enough harassment and trolling about Daniel and has taken measures to stop it, so please be respectful.|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success|4=Grace's first (and probably only) official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel|DOB=January 15, 2004|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Female|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)|Arcs=}}
'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> who [[Daniel Larson]] has an obsession with since he was roughly 17. Daniel's obsession with Grace began when he saw her perform on ''America's Got Talent'' while watching the show with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]].

Ever since, Daniel has had an unhealthy obsession, despite Grace being [[Pedophilia|underage]] for the majority of it. Ever since his infatuation with her started, he has convinced himself that he is a part of her life. This imagined 'relationship' progressed rapidly due to Daniel's delusions, which were encouraged more and more by [[Management|managers]], [[trolls]], and those pretending to be Grace.

Over time, Daniel's posts regarding her on his [[Social Media Accounts|numerous social media accounts]] became increasingly explicit. In many of these posts, Daniel would talk in graphic detail about his sexual fantasies regarding Grace, describing the various inappropriate acts that he would like to do with her. And when talking to trolls pretending to be Grace, Daniel has always referred to Grace using pictures from her childhood.

Grace (and to a lesser extent, her family) is often impersonated by trolls, who use her identity to gain Daniel's trust. On multiple occasions, Daniel has made a fool of himself by talking to these trolls about disturbing, and often sexual, subjects. Despite having been fooled by dozens, if not hundreds of people pretending to be Grace, he continues to fall for many of these tricks to this day.

On the 17th of April, 2024, Grace publicly acknowledged Daniel with a comment on her TikTok, ''@gracevanderpeepee,'' calling him a pedophile who has haunted her life.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6ut1b/the_real_grace_called_daniel_a_pdo/?sort=new</ref> Additionally, Grace has filtered out any mention of Daniel's name from her comment sections, providing additional weight to the notion that she is aware of him and detests him. Even more, messages with her mother states that Grace she and her family want nothing to do with him.

Despite being told off by Tina VanderWaal, along with thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into thinking he is truly dating Grace. Most recently in the [[Second Jail Arc]], during a call in September 2024, Daniel mentions having a wedding with her, and believes that her father Dave actually cares about him.

== Origins ==
Daniel has had an obsession with Grace Vanderwaal ever since Grace performed on America's Got Talent in 2016. According to Daniel, a common passtime of him and his grandmother was to watch America's Got Talent. While of questionable validity, his grandmother is documented to have said that Daniel may sing with Grace on stage one day. Ever since then, Daniel was of the belief that were in a romantic relationship, despite him being 17, and [[Pedophilia|Grace being 11.]]

Daniel would mention Grace a few times in 2020, in one instance in November, he claimed that he would be collaborating with Grace on a Zoom meeting, which he was likely told by management at the time.
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Beginning on May 12, 2021, Daniel claimed that he and Grace had some sort of collaboration in the works that would be coming out soon. In a later post to TikTok, Daniel claimed that he and Grace had begun dating. Things escalated quickly from there. Daniel recorded himself on several occasions telling strangers on the streets that he was dating Grace. More disturbingly, Daniel recorded multiple videos of himself moaning and whispering in a sensual manner for Grace's viewing pleasure, and even worse, recorded himself having an orgasm ('''NSFW!)''' <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/zcrw51/someone_sent_me_this/</ref> while whispering her name.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/13kpc3t/this_message_is_for_grace_uhhhhh_ohhhh_mmmmm_oh/</ref> In stark contrast to his lustful posts regarding Grace, Daniel has also posted hysterical videos about her 'breaking up' with him, calling her a bitch and various other expletives.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace]</ref> Although Daniel made several apologies for the multiple sexually charged videos he made about her, he continues with this disturbing behavior. Regardless of malicious [[Manipulators|trolls]] tricking and persuading him into thinking that he was dating Grace, and ultimately engendering his delusions of being with her, Daniel went above and beyond to show his unbridled obsession with her.[[File:DanielGrace.png|thumb| Daniel mogs Grace with his Greek God-esque Jawline.|left]]

Daniel, well aware that Grace was under 18, made various posts claiming that he would, "...wait until Grace is 18." Daniel has claimed to be in either a romantic or sexual relationship with Grace depending on his delusions at the time. If romantic, he claims that Grace is his girlfriend. If sexual, he explains the various explicit sexual acts he would like to do to her.

Daniel still tries to claim that he does not like Grace for sexual reasons, rather that he "...wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref> Everything Daniel says about Grace should be taken with a huge grain of salt as he has a tendency to internalize his delusions.

{{Quote|I just wanted a chance and I need help! I was never givin a chance and every single time I tried to contact you i get threatened. I really like your daughter for who she is and not for sexual reasons. The trolls want everyone to think it's for sexual reasons. I just wanted to stand out and have a chance with her! I know the competition she has. We are all human and we do sexual activities though. But that doesn't make me a pedophile if I have never even done anything and everyone uses me because I don't have protection. I'm sorry for everything being crazy}}<gallery>
File:Danieldenying2.png|Daniel denying his pedophilic attraction to Grace.
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</gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard. Grace is oftentimes the primary victim of Daniel's delusional harassment like other figures, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram would be filled to the brim with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a conversation with her in real time. Daniel would mention Grace in TikTok videos and tag her, which resulted in her notifications filling up with nothing but Daniel. He did this on almost every TikTok account he has, to the point where one of Daniel's TikTok accounts was suspended for his constant harassment towards her. Grace had filtered out "Daniel Larson", "Mr. President" and "Danderson" from her TikTok comments shortly after. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>

As of 2024, Daniel shows no signs of stopping his obsession with her. He is still constantly falling for trolls' claims about Grace, along with agreeing with the orders of people who pretend to be Grace, who get him to do egregious and disturbing things, which cause the production of NSFW videos like the [[Pencil incident|Pencil Incident]]. He even talks about her on the phone with Clark during the [[Jail Arc]], in hopes of her bailing him out. Even though his Graceposting has eased up, it has never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's current head-canon is that he and Grace are periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. He still thinks about Grace while [[Second Jail Arc|incarcerated for federal crimes]].

Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to.
== Delusions ==
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=== The Likee Meltdown ===
''Main Article: [[Likee Meltdown]]''

During one delusion, Daniel, seemingly because he was without access to his phone, posted on Likee, a short video creating site that he used during a time he was banned from TikTok, in despair and asking for his followers to get him information from the 'VanderWaal Team'.

Based on the content of these videos, it he believed that there had been some kind of accident, and that the VanderWaal family, (who he believed were in contact with him up until this point), were refusing to give him information about something that supposedly happened to Grace. Throughout the video, Daniel hits himself and threatens to end his own life.

Daniel obviously did not follow through with his threats, as when this incident subsided, he was perfectly fine. Daniel said that if he did not get into contact with the VanderWaal family immediately, he would allegedly be on the streets. This, although small, was a sign of things to come.

Afterwards, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of Grace's father, Dave, and Grace herself. In this video, Daniel believed that Grace had simultaneously committed suicide and suffered a heart attack. Before Daniel addressed their deaths, he began to cry, hysterically apologizing for sexting minors and sending Grace (or whoever he thought was Grace) pictures of his genitals. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref>

After this live-stream, Daniel posted to his TikTok admitting that Grace was one of the minors he had supposedly sexted. Daniel admitted, "I have sexted minors, 13 years old, well I'm gonna be honest, 12 years old".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fgywu/13_years_old_well_im_gonna_be_honest_12_years_old/</ref> The video ends with Daniel saying that he planned to move on by not doing things such as this anymore and putting in the work to become a better person for her, especially after Grace's 'death.'

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It may seem as though the true and honest death of Grace brought about a repentant moment in this particular arc. However, the moment faded quickly as Daniel soon discovered that Grace had not died, and thus resumed his regular obsessive posting about her (and sexting "her" in private DMs).

=== [[Tyrone]] ===
[[File:GraceTyrone 1.png|thumb|"Tyrone just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder"]]
[[File:GraceTyrone 2.png|left|thumb|552x552px|Daniel, alluding to the hospital Grace was apparently staying at, was being shot up.]]
During the July 24th freak-out, Daniel believed that Grace was being attacked by an individual named "[[Tyrone]]", an African-American man who was setting out to kill her, claiming he had "...just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder". Following this, Daniel's community tab was filled with paranoia, as he believed Grace had simultaneously died, and was still alive in the hospital while Tyrone sought to kill her.

During one bout of delusion, Daniel believed that Tyrone was shooting up the hospital Grace was staying at, and it got to the point where there was a "standoff".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15e3dul/this_is_actually_very_entertaining/</ref> These posts were probably fuelled by [[trolls]] inflaming his paranoia.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15exd9u/photos_of_tyrone_graces_attacker_have_been_leaked/</ref>

=== Daniel's (Failed) Trek from Colorado to New York ===
While in contact with Daniel, another account claiming to be Grace told him that she had just had sex with another man. Daniel, fueled by his delusions, rage, and obsession with Grace, decided to hike from Colorado to New York in an attempt to win her back, rambling on TikTok during the night while on his hike.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14a8u2n/an_old_underrated_moment_imo_after_a_fake_grace/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14ab7s3/continuation_from_my_previous_post_daniel_keeps/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14adymh/the_not_so_thrilling_conclusion_to_daniels_big/</ref>

In these TikToks, Daniel claimed that he had, "...officially fucked up," with Grace to the point that she had broken up with him. In a rare moment of clarity, Daniel said that Grace was her own person and that she could date whoever she wanted to. Daniel’s reason for going to New York was to win back Grace’s love from whomever she was apparently having sex with. He tried to guilt trip her in these videos by saying that he had a, "...[h]eart disease from heartbreak," and details about how hard his childhood was.

As the stream goes on, Daniel stays up through the entire night, to the point where you can see the sun rising in the video, determined to get to Grace. He continues to make wild claims during this walk, along with some karaoke. This walk ended with Daniel returning to Denver as he either got tired from walking or learned that the Grace he had been speaking with was a troll.
[[File:PregnantGrace.png|thumb|319x319px|Grace "pregnant" with Jacob's baby.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15t743z/jacob_sartorius_got_grace_pregnant/</ref>]]

=== The Grace and Jacob Sartorius Love Affair ===
''Main Article: [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Jacob_Sartorius#Delusions Jacob Sartorius#Delusions]''

[[July 24th Freak-out|On July 24th]], 2023, Daniel became convinced that Grace, who he had beleived was dating him up until this point, had broken up with him as things were, "..moving too slow", and had soon gotten together with American [[Social Media Accounts|social media]] personality and [[Music Career|singer]], [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon believe that Jacob had impregnated Grace, and ordered her assassination by "[[Tyrone]]", all at the same time. Daniel's story regarding Jacob rapidly changed, at one point claiming that Jacob was harassing him, and then Grace.

This eventually culminated into Daniel throwing his dinner into a river because of his anger at Grace dating Jacob instead of him.

== Contact ==
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]]
While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is extremely plausible that Grace simply does not want to give any of these people attention, mainly Daniel, as he feeds off of it. Some believe that Grace has stopped posting to her initial TikTok account due to Daniel (along with followers of his) harassing her via the comment section, although this is unconfirmed.

=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
Daniel's obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him in December 2021. He confronted him, telling him to leave her and their family alone, and were considering putting a restraining order against him with the threat of building a criminal case. Daniel's reaction to his was strong, as he went to the hospital and at one point, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref>

=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] ===
Daniel's obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022.

Tina, through Instagram, demanded that Daniel stop making contact with her family, especially her daughter, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Tina then claimed to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refused to stop making videos and posts about Grace, she would take unspecified legal action and get Daniel arrested.

Daniel responded to her messages by stating that he understands, and, more importantly, will be commiting suicide that night. He, of course, does not; and most likely threatened suicide to guilt-trip her or gain attention.

{{Quote|Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP}}

Despite this, Tina has not followed suit with her threats. According to a message exchange with a member of the Daniel Larson subreddit, Tina had reached out to the Denver police, however, they were unable to do anything as ([[August 29th Meltdown|at least at the time]]) Daniel had not made any threats against Grace.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>

Even so, this interaction with Grace's mother was the focus of multiple videos and community posts for some time after. Daniel posted multiple videos crying and/or apologizing to the VanderWaal family, continuously addressing the 'allegations' against him. However, Daniel fluctuated between admitting to his misdeeds to pretending that they had never happened at all, and were all unsubstantiated just rumors.{{Citation Needed}}

Following her messages, Tina made a comment on one of Daniel's live-streams, begging him to stop his obsessive posting.

{{Quote|God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP}}

Upon receiving this message, Daniel kept on pressing Tina with responses, asking her questions, to which Tina responded with:

{{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}}

Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, claiming things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and that he is misunderstood. He has not received a response. <gallery widths="150" heights="150">
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On March 26 2023, Tina would message Daniel once again on YouTube, on a short called "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." Tina denied this and responded, warning Daniel he was close to being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref>

{{Quote|Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.

Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense.}}

Daniel responded 10 times, begging her for a second chance, and crying. Tina ignored these messages. However, the next day, Tina would post on Daniel's community tab on a post with his Cash App. Tina warned his followers that they were participating in committing a crime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>

{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}

Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He would also continue to make similar posts. As of 2024, that was the last message that Tina has verifiably sent to Daniel about Grace.
=== Grace Rape Troll ===
[[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]]
Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace Vanderwaal; the person behind this number has yet to be identified.

In these texts, "Grace" claimed that she was, oddly enough, at the White House, getting sexually assaulted by her father along with being impregnated by multiple other people. Daniel believed this to be genuine, responding by attempting to convince "Grace" to move out to Denver so that she could press charges on her father and live with Daniel.

The messages started off with Daniel genuinely caring for "Grace's" wellbeing, asking what he can do to help, to Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped, and what she thought about during it''''', absolutely desperate to imagine Grace performing intercourse. He claimed to have asked these questions in order to use the information gathered by them in court, although this is obviously unlikely as nothing happened following this.

Whenever this fake Grace would talk about allegedly getting raped, they said that it was being recorded and uploaded to some type of social media or pornographic website. Daniel wanted to know where he could find this footage. After this, Daniel went on to make multiple videos claiming that he had called the police to deal with this matter. Considering his past behavior, and history of wasting emergency services, he likely did actually call the authorities.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>

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=== AI Prank ===
On June 16, 2023, Reddit user [[u/TMZ_news]] posted a video of Grace VanderWaal's Instagram account, editing the image, so her most recent post was a video addressing Daniel.<ref>https://archive.org/details/why-did-grace-just-post-this-on-instagram-14b-9wfr</ref> The video in question being made using AI.

In the video, 'Grace' urges Daniel to leave her and her family alone, reinforcing the fact that Daniel had never been in contact with any of the members of the VanderWaal family. u/TMZ_news went on to post screenshots of messages between him and Tina VanderWaal, where Tina claims the video was taken down due to Grace's "lawyer" advising them to do so, although these messages are '''''mostly likely fake'''''.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14bh8tr/the_vanderwaal_team_explained_graces_post_she/</ref>

Daniel addressed the video on the community section of his YouTube page. His panicked reactions made it apparent that he did not see through the fake posts, and had fallen for the elaborate prank. [citation needed]

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=== Messages with u/TMZ_News ===
[[File:TMZGRACE.png|thumb|482x482px]]

While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace tells them that they she has never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to be in contact with him, emphatically stating her hatred for him and desire for him to keep her name out his mouth.
{{Quote|I know who he is, but I have never contacted him and don't have want anything to do with him. He's the worst thing that has ever happened to my career. Every time I search my name I see pictures of that dirty pedophile. My posts get spammed with comments about that freak Daniel. I hate him and I wish he would just stop talking about me.}}

They reply to Grace with their condolences for both her and her family, offering to stop messaging Grace about Daniel.

{{Quote|No, it's okay I understand that you're just trying to help. It's nice having someone to talk to about the problem and I can tell that you're a nice guy.}}

This was the last message Grace sent before their exchange ended.

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There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he will not change. Because of Daniel's delusions, he will likely go on thinking that Grace loves him and that everyone else is a liar. This response, if authentic, would only inspire Daniel to keep trying as his efforts have proven successful in making her aware of him.

However, these messages have a high chance of being fake. This same user had already faked posts from Grace's Instagram in order to trick Daniel, thus any other media coming from U/TMZ_news should be taken with a grain of salt. Until more evidence comes out, it is safe to assume that the exchange pictured above is faked.

=== TikTok Comment (Official Acknowledgement) ===
On April 17, 2024, it was revealed that Grace is, in fact, aware of Daniel.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6vhdt/screen_recording_of_real_grace_account_calling/</ref> On a post of her TikTok account, a user commented,
{{Quote|Is laniel darson featured?}}

Grace had comment filtered "Daniel Larson" on her posts on TikTok due to the harassment. She replied,

{{Quote|If ur trying to be a musician with [REDACTED BAND NAME] being a fan of a p*do that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success}}
[[File:CommunityGrace.png|frameless|595x595px|right|Daniel, in response to Grace's comment. ]]

The commenter then deleted his original comment after Grace had replied, taking issue with Grace mentioning his band, though he provided a screen recording of the comment.

This finally confirms that Grace is indeed aware of Daniel, and clearly does not want anything to do with him, mentioning that he has haunted her. Given the amount of weens who have likely bothered Grace's comment section with mentions of Daniel, this is not very surprising. Daniel saw the comment, confirming this on his Community Tab,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQD2h4-5DteNbgocGSjL7tw/community?lb=UgkxMQ2PXdR0vZry_MLEFxBs63rrcW3KX3Rk</ref> but he continues to have delusions about her thinking she loves him, when in reality she does not. In addition, it is possible Daniel even thought the comment was made by a troll.
== References ==

Banana Video

2025-02-06T14:21:03Z

TheHighKing: Fixing grammar

The '''Banana Video''' or the '''Banana Incident''' was a hoax started by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/ /r/DanielLarson] moderator [https://www.reddit.com/user/SlimJiMorrison SlimJiMorrison] that sent the subreddit into a frenzy with other users playing along, strengthening the hoax. The rumor was that Daniel had done something involving defecating onto a bowl inside of a toilet, particularly the toilet seen in [[The Poop Rag|this post]], dipping a banana inside of the bowl with his own excrement and then eating it.<blockquote>Daniel placed a bowl in the toilet. Same bathroom as “[[The Poop Rag|I’m not feeling well]] ”. Pooped, Daniel than took the bowl out of the toilet. Placed it on the bathroom sink. Unpeeled a banana and took a little scoop. And ate it

-SlimJiMorrison<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wclnjs/since_the_video_keeps_getting_taken_down_what_was/iidatzd/</ref></blockquote>

== The Post ==
SlimJiMorrison made [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wbtjfs/the_incident/ this post] On July 30th 2022, it was a post of Daniel saying "this banana is going to be so fucking good" then a cut to the Always Sunny music with the title "The July 30th incident". Users asked what the banana incident was to which SlimJiMorrison responded that it was worse than [[The Toothbrush Incident|the toothbrush incident]]<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wbtjfs/the_incident/ii8oljs/</ref>

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== Subreddit Reaction ==
This post sent the subreddit into a frenzy with many users either asking for the video or claiming that they had access/saw it, despite the fact that the video does not exist. Many posts were made referencing this "incident" creating more interest in it, thus fueling the fire of this rumor.

== Revealed ==
Just 13 hours later SlimJMorrison left a comment on his original post stating "It doesn’t exists. But let’s pretend it does" <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wbtjfs/the_incident/iib5t5i/</ref>. A lot of the subreddit users did not see this as they continued asking for the video, or pretending to have seen it.

Anti Chloe

2025-02-06T14:18:26Z

TheHighKing: He is getting out soon!!!!!1111

{{Doxxing}}
{{Unknown}}{{Transcript Needed}}{{Videos Need Archiving}}{{Infobox|image=Anti_Chloe_photo.jpg|imageDesc=A photo of Chloe.|name=Chloe Miller|timeActive=Early 2021|Alignment=Content Creator|Gender=Female|Arcs=}}
'''Chloe Miller,'''<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRoxwBvx/</ref> better known as '''Anti_Chloe,''' is a TikToker with over 200k followers.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@anti_chloe?lang=en</ref> She is most notable for being a victim of a targeted attack led by [[Daniel Larson]] and his managers back in 2021. The attack was due to Chloe, "...talking smack." However, there is no evidence of this.

Although being a relatively forgotten figure in the Daniel Larson community, she is the reason behind one of the infamous videos of [[Daniel Larson's Racism|Daniel saying the n-word]]. Daniel has also gone on record to dox Chloe, reading out her entire home address on live at one point. Daniel told several people to join her livestreams and spam 'we want peace' in the chat, which caused her doxxing, and ultimately resulted in her withdrawing from the situation for her own safety.

Chloe has made it very clear that she wants absolutely nothing to do with Daniel, especially after her doxxing.

== Interactions with Daniel ==
Information on Anti_Chloe is scarce due to a lack of archiving and preservation of content. Despite this, this article will use what little evidence there is in order to piece together the situation.

In early 2021, Chloe had no idea who Daniel was. She only became aware of him due to the comments on her posts, namely one from @daniellarsonmuisc, who had claimed that her and Daniel were dating. At around this same time, Daniel began posting videos about her, namely one claiming that he was going to impregnate her.<ref>https://archive.org/details/snap-insta.io-i-am-going-to-impregnate-anti-chloe</ref> After seeing some unusual videos on @daniellarsonmuisc, she learned about the account's claims that she was harassing Daniel and exploiting him for money through Cash App. Prior to this, Chloe claimed that she had never heard of Daniel Larson before.<ref name=":0">https://archive.is/aTJBQ

</ref> This motivated Chloe to look into Daniel in an attempt to help him.<ref>https://archive.is/xePIo</ref>

Chloe reached out to Daniel in a TikTok live, offering to help him. However, Daniel's management at the time, presumably Jared, turned it down. They told Daniel that Chloe had malevolent intent. They even accused her of, "..talking smack." Chloe frequently took Daniel into TikTok lives, giving him genuine advice about his situation, and telling him that his delusions were just that. She also revealed to him that most of his 'managers' were just trolls. This is presumed to be the comment that angered Daniel's managers, thus causing them to mislead Daniel into hating Chloe.

Although most of these livestreams are lost to time, what can be inferred from posts on the subreddit is that Daniel would only reply to her advice with, "mhm." obviously not taking anything she said to heart.<ref>https://archive.is/8tU20</ref><ref>https://archive.is/7g0LA</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/delegation-podcast-vs-daniel-larson-ft-anti-chloe

</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/rhz3b3/antichloe_flexburger_or_roach_records/ (deleted)</ref>

In one livestream, Chloe became aware of the pedophilic accusations against Daniel. She did not take these accusations seriously. However, one should take these clips with a grain of salt, as the full livestreams have yet to be found and are presumably lost.<ref>https://archive.org/details/delegation-podcast-vs-daniel-larson-ft-anti-chloe

</ref>

It is believed that Chloe had one of her friends pretend to be Grace Vanderwaal in her livestreams with Daniel. According to Chloe, she was not aware of the extent of his delusions, it was meant to be a joke.<ref>[https://archive.org/details/here-is-some-proof-that-anti-chloe-did-call-grace-vanderwaal.-this-is-a-emergency. https://archive.org/details/here-is-some-proof-that-anti-chloe-did-call-grace-vanderwaal.-this-is-a-emergency.]</ref> Chloe expands upon this in two comments made on the subreddit on an account she then abandoned.

{{Quote|This is Chloe, this is to everyone… I did not call “grace”, that was my friend.. no i didnt say anything about it but me laughing made it obvious i thought she was joking. As of clout, i have gained nothing and am in college and social media isnt my career. its something i do that makes me happy, why should i have to delete something that makes me happy and i worked hard for. and to the people saying i am spam calling all i have a miss calls in my phone because i have depression and i have anxiety and rn i dont wanna talk to anyone. so please learn how to love life and love ppl and respect and spread positivity because thats all i am about and thats why i wanted to help daniel when he asked to request and to know why ppl were in my comments saying stuff about him bc i didnt understand. Yall laugh about it but its been 3 months, so please grow up, learn respect and to spread positivity. This is why tiktok is super toxic.|author=Chloe, first comment <ref>https://archive.is/8tU20</ref>}}{{Quote|This is chloe and that was not me who called, i thought it was obviously fake and i thought everyone would know its fake. i didnt know who daniel was but i seen all his posts about me so i wanted him to join just to talk and see why he was posting. i didnt know he was that easily convienced bc i didnt know him and i apologize for not saying anything to my friend. i thought it was a joke and i thought everyone knew that. i ment no harm by letting her do that.|author=Chloe, second and last comment <ref>https://archive.is/Oq8bB</ref>}}

Then inexplicably after this, Daniel started saying he was being attacked by her, saying he’s dating her, claiming that she’s the reason he was sent to the hospital, saying he wants to sleep with her, calling her the N-word, that Anti_Chloe was pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]], to making videos of himself screaming and telling his fans to go spam her. Presumably, this was all under his manager's influence, although to this day it still remains unclear.<ref>https://archive.org/details/anti-chloe-is-a-higher-power_202309</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/all-hail-anti-chloe</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/snap-insta.io-i-am-going-to-impregnate-anti-chloe</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/i-pledge-to-anti-chloe</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/im-now-getting-screenshots-of-anti-chloe-claiming-that-she-faked-to-be-grace-vanderwaal-leaked

</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/i-want-peace-with-anti-chloe

</ref>

== Messages with u/ThatGuy8754 ==
On December 13, 2021, a member of the Daniel Larson subreddit conducted an interview with Chloe regarding the current situation with Daniel. Chloe's account of things was similar to other claims from redditors.<ref name=":0" />
[[File:Anti Chloe Response.png|thumb|Chloe recounting what had happened between her and Daniel. ]]
<blockquote>appreciate [''sic''] it, if u [''sic''] can get it to stop thats [''sic''] great, the story isnt [''sic''] that excited [''sic''] being i didnt [''sic''] know who he was, there was a kid in my live trolling me saying me and daniel larson [''sic''] were dating 2-3 months ago. that [''sic''] was the first time i [''sic''] heard daniels [''sic''] name bc [''sic''] he kept repeating it, 3 weeks ago i start [''sic''] getting larsond comments and i [''sic''] had no clue what it ment, then people start tagging me in a fake daniel [''sic''] page i [''sic''] believe be it was just a black screen [with] text (probably the kid made) writing stuff bout [''sic''] me and daniel larson, and it kinda blew up the page like 15k from 0 in a week.. i [''sic''] got it taken down and then a day later im [''sic''] getting sent the video of actually daniel larson [''sic''] saying these things and im [''sic''] in shock be[cause] i [''sic''] have never talked to him or about him, i [''sic''] just found out bout [''sic''] him recently. but i [''sic''] was with my friend when he posted the video and u [''sic''] could hear the phone ringing and i [''sic''] have proof of that [because] he called and texted me [']wya['] while i [''sic''] was driving to his place and i [''sic''] showed him the video and he said [']wtf['] so basically i [''sic''] did nothing i [''sic''] think someone is acting like me that is messaging or calling, [perhaps it was] the person that said we were dating a couple months ago be idk [''sic''] how id [''sic''] get dragged into this. but im [''sic''] done talking about this be[cause] its [''sic''] stressing me out when i [''sic''] did nothing. just [''sic''] wanted to share to u [''sic''] just in case you could help[.]<ref>https://archive.is/aTJBQ

</ref></blockquote>

== Aftermath ==
Following this, Daniel went on TikTok live, during which he read out Chloe's home address, which ultimately resulted in her being doxxed and having multiple TikTok accounts created with her address as their usernames.

On January 20, 2022, Chloe posted a video calling out fans of Daniel while crying.<ref>https://archive.is/bQELW</ref>

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After the dox, Chloe completely withdrew from the situation, and as of 2023, she has not discussed Daniel.

In 2025, she made a joke video mentioning Daniel, claiming he was getting out of jail soon.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@anti_chloe/video/7467440621058411822?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=mobile&sender_web_id=7468308264782939691</ref>

== References ==
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Anti Chloe

2025-02-06T14:11:20Z

TheHighKing: Fixing number

Andrew

2025-02-05T16:34:22Z

TheHighKing: Sourve

{{Doxxing}}
{{Sources}}

'''Andrew''' was one of Daniel's [[Daniel Larson's case managers|case managers]], known most notoriously for being the scapegoat of Daniel's issues during his [[Homeless Arc]]. After leaving care under [[Jonas]], due to Daniel's developmental disabilities and homelessness, Daniel was assigned a case manager by the state government of Colorado.

== Daniel's relationship with Andrew ==
Daniel's developmental disabilities and online manipulation cause him to think that he is extremely famous. Due to the nature of Daniel's care, Andrew was often blamed by Daniel for stealing money, destroying his career, as well as making his life difficult. In many of Daniel's TikToks, Daniel shows disregard and contempt for Andrew, often cursing at and threatening Andrew.<ref>https://archive.ph/5lxdN</ref> On several occasions, Daniel has also tried making Andrew pay for his meals.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1dohdgc/my_favorite_moments_from_the_andrew_meltdown/</ref>

During the final week of June 2022, Daniel increasingly shared feelings of malice, aggression, and resentment towards Andrew. As Daniel fled into the woods (to run away from 'police' searching for him), he posted a series of rants onto his TikTok. This became known as the [[June 22nd Meltdown]]. In these posts, Daniel struck himself, saying that Andrew was stressing him (and Bob) out so much that they had to hurt themselves. Additionally, Daniel said he would "find and kill" Andrew, and claimed that Andrew is responsible for Daniel being “financially ruined”. During one of these rants, Daniel called Andrew [[The N Word|the N-Word]].<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1awwuim/andrew_meltdown_in_autotune/</ref>

As of July 7th, 2022, Andrew is no longer Daniel's case manager.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hx-ZpVp5Tnc</ref>

There is reason to believe that Andrew is not actually responsible for Daniel's accusations. Daniel has claimed that he spoken over the phone with Andrew, who said that Daniel did not "need to go to court, regardless of what the warrants said." This was clear evidence that Daniel purposely used Andrew as a scapegoat for any problem that occurred in his life. There is no possibility that Andrew, a state employee, had told Daniel not to appear in court. Instead, Daniel saw an opportunity to avoid going to court (as well as any further “failure to appear” fines) by utilizing a baseless claim that his disability case manager said he was not required to attend.

== References ==
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[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Case managers]]

Andrew

2025-02-05T13:38:35Z

TheHighKing: Pip8ng

{{Doxxing}}
{{Sources}}

'''Andrew''' was one of Daniel's [[Daniel Larson's case managers|case managers]], known most notoriously for being the scapegoat of Daniel's issues during his [[Homeless Arc]]. After leaving care under [[Jonas]], due to Daniel's developmental disabilities and homelessness, Daniel was assigned a case manager by the state government of Colorado.

== Daniel's relationship with Andrew ==
Daniel's developmental disabilities and online manipulation cause him to think that he is extremely famous. Due to the nature of Daniel's care, Andrew was often blamed by Daniel for stealing money, destroying his career, as well as making his life difficult. In many of Daniel's TikToks, Daniel shows disregard and contempt for Andrew, often cursing at and threatening Andrew. On several occasions, Daniel has also tried making Andrew pay for his meals.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1dohdgc/my_favorite_moments_from_the_andrew_meltdown/</ref>

During the final week of June 2022, Daniel increasingly shared feelings of malice, aggression, and resentment towards Andrew. As Daniel fled into the woods (to run away from 'police' searching for him), he posted a series of rants onto his TikTok. This became known as the [[June 22nd Meltdown]]. In these posts, Daniel struck himself, saying that Andrew was stressing him (and Bob) out so much that they had to hurt themselves. Additionally, Daniel said he would "find and kill" Andrew, and claimed that Andrew is responsible for Daniel being “financially ruined”. During one of these rants, Daniel called Andrew [[The N Word|the N-Word]].<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1awwuim/andrew_meltdown_in_autotune/</ref>

As of July 7th, 2022, Andrew is no longer Daniel's case manager.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hx-ZpVp5Tnc</ref>

There is reason to believe that Andrew is not actually responsible for Daniel's accusations. Daniel has claimed that he spoken over the phone with Andrew, who said that Daniel did not "need to go to court, regardless of what the warrants said." This was clear evidence that Daniel purposely used Andrew as a scapegoat for any problem that occurred in his life. There is no possibility that Andrew, a state employee, had told Daniel not to appear in court. Instead, Daniel saw an opportunity to avoid going to court (as well as any further “failure to appear” fines) by utilizing a baseless claim that his disability case manager said he was not required to attend.

== References ==
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[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Case managers]]

Andrew

2025-02-05T13:33:17Z

TheHighKing: Source

{{Doxxing}}
{{Sources}}

'''Andrew''' was one of Daniel's [[Daniel Larson's case managers|case managers]], known most notoriously for being the scapegoat of Daniel's issues during his [[Homeless Arc]]. After leaving care under [[Jonas]], due to Daniel's developmental disabilities and homelessness, Daniel was assigned a case manager by the state government of Colorado.

== Daniel's relationship with Andrew ==
Daniel's developmental disabilities and online manipulation cause him to think that he is extremely famous. Due to the nature of Daniel's care, Andrew was often blamed by Daniel for stealing money, destroying his career, as well as making his life difficult. In many of Daniel's TikToks, Daniel shows disregard and contempt for Andrew, often cursing at and threatening Andrew. On several occasions, Daniel has also tried making Andrew pay for his meals.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1dohdgc/my_favorite_moments_from_the_andrew_meltdown/</ref>

During the final week of June 2022, Daniel increasingly shared feelings of malice, aggression, and resentment towards Andrew. As Daniel fled into the woods (to run away from 'police' searching for him), he posted a series of rants onto his TikTok. In these posts, Daniel struck himself, saying that Andrew was stressing him (and Bob) out so much that they had to hurt themselves. Additionally, Daniel said he would "find and kill" Andrew, and claimed that Andrew is responsible for Daniel being “financially ruined”. During one of these rants, Daniel called Andrew [[The N Word|the N-Word]].<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1awwuim/andrew_meltdown_in_autotune/</ref>

As of July 7th, 2022, Andrew is no longer Daniel's case manager.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hx-ZpVp5Tnc</ref>

There is reason to believe that Andrew is not actually responsible for Daniel's accusations. Daniel has claimed that he spoken over the phone with Andrew, who said that Daniel did not "need to go to court, regardless of what the warrants said." This was clear evidence that Daniel purposely used Andrew as a scapegoat for any problem that occurred in his life. There is no possibility that Andrew, a state employee, had told Daniel not to appear in court. Instead, Daniel saw an opportunity to avoid going to court (as well as any further “failure to appear” fines) by utilizing a baseless claim that his disability case manager said he was not required to attend.

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Case managers]]

Andrew

2025-02-05T13:10:16Z

TheHighKing: Adding in a source that confirms exactly that

{{Doxxing}}
{{Sources}}

'''Andrew''' was one of Daniel's [[Daniel Larson's case managers|case managers]], known most notoriously for being the scapegoat of Daniel's issues during his [[Homeless Arc]]. After leaving care under [[Jonas]], due to Daniel's developmental disabilities and homelessness, Daniel was assigned a case manager by the state government of Colorado.

== Daniel's relationship with Andrew ==
Daniel's developmental disabilities and online manipulation cause him to think that he is extremely famous. Due to the nature of Daniel's care, Andrew was often blamed by Daniel for stealing money, destroying his career, as well as making his life difficult. In many of Daniel's TikToks, Daniel shows disregard and contempt for Andrew, often cursing at and threatening Andrew. On several occasions, Daniel has also tried making Andrew pay for his meals.

During the final week of June 2022, Daniel increasingly shared feelings of malice, aggression, and resentment towards Andrew. As Daniel fled into the woods (to run away from 'police' searching for him), he posted a series of rants onto his TikTok. In these posts, Daniel struck himself, saying that Andrew was stressing him (and Bob) out so much that they had to hurt themselves. Additionally, Daniel said he would "find and kill" Andrew, and claimed that Andrew is responsible for Daniel being “financially ruined”. During one of these rants, Daniel called Andrew [[The N Word|the N-Word]].<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1awwuim/andrew_meltdown_in_autotune/</ref>

As of July 7th, 2022, Andrew is no longer Daniel's case manager.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hx-ZpVp5Tnc</ref>

There is reason to believe that Andrew is not actually responsible for Daniel's accusations. Daniel has claimed that he spoken over the phone with Andrew, who said that Daniel did not "need to go to court, regardless of what the warrants said." This was clear evidence that Daniel purposely used Andrew as a scapegoat for any problem that occurred in his life. There is no possibility that Andrew, a state employee, had told Daniel not to appear in court. Instead, Daniel saw an opportunity to avoid going to court (as well as any further “failure to appear” fines) by utilizing a baseless claim that his disability case manager said he was not required to attend.

== References ==
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[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Case managers]]

Aiopm

2025-02-05T13:00:01Z

TheHighKing: Referenced

AIOPM is a term coined by TikToker Eduardo Majin which is used to refer to TikTokers, many of whom have [[wikipedia:Mental_disability|mental disabilities,]] that are seen as lolcows. A few noteworthy examples of AIOPMs would be [[Daniel Larson]], [[World Of T-Shirts]], [[Kanye556]], Bandit200000, Huncho and Modpizzaworkingman (Ayman).<ref>https://urbandictionary.store/products/mug?defid=16257525</ref><ref>https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/aiopm</ref>

== Refrences ==

Sobesky Academy

2025-02-05T02:21:26Z

TheHighKing: Technically, he probably graduated before he turned 19, since he spent the last stretch of 2017 in jail, so unless he graduated in late December...

{{Needs Updating}}{{Stub}}[[File:SobeskyAcademy.jpg|thumb|Sobesky Academy. ]]
'''Sobesky Academy''' is a K-12 alternative school in [[wikipedia:Lakewood,_Colorado|Lakewood, Colorado]], for troubled youths that attempts to reintroduce children back into public schools.<ref name=":0">https://sobesky.jeffcopublicschools.org/about</ref><ref>[[FlyingFoxandwings AMA]]</ref> From 2016-2017, [[Daniel]] attended Sobesky Academy for his high school education, graduating as a senior in 2017 at age 18-19.

== Time in School ==
{{Stub}}

=== Academic Life ===

=== Social Life ===

== Graduation ==

Daniel Larson graduated from high school as a senior in 2017. There is an image of what appears to be him at his graduation, wearing green robes and hat.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p0l2fd/larson_at_his_highschool_graduation/</ref> Because it is not a true high school, Daniel does not have a GED, and his "diploma" is a special one.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/16g5bgo/daniel_never_graduated_from_high_school/</ref>

== See Also ==

* [[Tennyson Center]]
* [[November 6th Arrest]]

== External Links ==
{{Before Era}}

== References ==
<references />

Abandoned in Colorado Springs

2025-02-05T02:05:45Z

TheHighKing: Refrences

{{Sources}}

On October 20, 2022, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was abandoned at a Colorado Springs Walgreens by Wyatt and friends, who had met him the night prior at a Dave & Buster's in Denver. Wyatt claimed that Daniel was far more than he could handle. Thus, he and his friend opted to abandon him. The full story of the events leading to Daniel's abandonment has not yet been told.

== Previous Day ==

=== A Fateful Meeting at Dave & Buster's ===
On the night of October 19, 2022, Daniel posted several TikToks from a Dave & Buster's in Denver, Colorado. In the video, he invited his fans to join him in his shenanigans. Wyatt and his alleged business partner, Jesse, met up with him there in response to Daniel's post.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1brs5e3/in_honor_of_daniels_trip_to_colorado_springs/</ref>

=== Hot Box and a Place to Stay ===
Daniel posted several TikToks from inside Wyatt's car; in one video, a bong can be seen being passed around. It is believed that Daniel consumed marijuana from the bong as well.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gd190a/can_someone_help_me_find_a_video_from_when_danny/</ref>

Daniel then stayed with Wyatt and friends in a hotel room from which he made more TikTok content.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/y9ead1/daniel_left_stranded_in_colorado_springs/</ref>

== Road Trip ==
[[File:DanielsTrip.png|thumb|This is one of many routes from Colorado Springs, CO, to Denver, CO. Daniel claimed that this is the seventy-mile trip he was making before being rescued in Monument, CO.]]
On the morning of October 20, 2022, Wyatt and friends brought Daniel to the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs; they took to the trails for some hiking and sightseeing. Daniel grew stressed as the boys' not-so-perilous journey continued on. Daniel can be seen punching his phone and getting annoyed with the boys in several of the TikToks uploaded during their trip. At one point, Daniel even demanded that he be brought back to Denver. After Daniel suspected that he was being driven around in circles by Wyatt and Friends, to ease his paranoia, they pulled over at a Walgreens. The boys presumably left just after sending Daniel into the Walgreens, abandoning him with no warning. Wyatt claimed that Daniel had food, water, and money, although Daniel doesn't seem to make any indication of this.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yd1lq2/this_is_really_not_good/</ref>

== A Way Home ==
Rather than buying a bus ticket from Colorado Springs to Denver, Daniel decided he would begin a perilous seventy-mile journey back home. Daniel alleged that he had walked over fifty miles that night, although several people following the Larson lore estimated this figure as being closer to twenty miles. Daniel made it as far as Monument, Colorado, where he posted a TikTok of himself sipping on an iced coffee at the Coffee Cup Cafe. Several Larsonians came to Daniel's rescue soon after; and brought him back to Denver, even listening to his music on the way back.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yjhcod/i_thought_someone_took_him_back_to_denver_after/</ref><ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/ya5jip/the_president_has_been_rescued/</ref>

== References ==

Abandoned in Colorado Springs

2025-02-05T02:04:56Z

TheHighKing: This citation link has an image, seems legitimate.

Abandoned in Colorado Springs

2025-02-05T02:01:31Z

TheHighKing: Dead video

Abandoned in Colorado Springs

2025-02-05T01:47:34Z

TheHighKing: Daniel is a... chaotic narrator.

{{Sources}}

On October 20, 2022, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was abandoned at a Colorado Springs Walgreens by Wyatt and friends, who had met him the night prior at a Dave & Buster's in Denver. Wyatt claimed that Daniel was far more than he could handle. Thus, he and his friend opted to abandon him. The full story of the events leading to Daniel's abandonment has not yet been told.

== Previous Day ==

=== A Fateful Meeting at Dave & Buster's ===
On the night of October 19, 2022, Daniel posted several TikToks from a Dave & Buster's in Denver, Colorado. In the video, he invited his fans to join him in his shenanigans. Wyatt and his alleged business partner, Jesse, met up with him there in response to Daniel's post.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1brs5e3/in_honor_of_daniels_trip_to_colorado_springs/</ref>

=== Hot Box and a Place to Stay ===
Daniel posted several TikToks from inside Wyatt's car; in one video, a bong can be seen being passed around. It is believed that Daniel consumed marijuana from the bong as well.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gd190a/can_someone_help_me_find_a_video_from_when_danny/</ref>

Daniel then stayed with Wyatt and friends in a hotel room from which he made more TikTok content.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/y9ead1/daniel_left_stranded_in_colorado_springs/</ref>

== Road Trip ==
[[File:DanielsTrip.png|thumb|This is one of many routes from Colorado Springs, CO, to Denver, CO. Daniel claimed that this is the seventy-mile trip he was making before being rescued in Monument, CO.]]
On the morning of October 20, 2022, Wyatt and friends brought Daniel to the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs; they took to the trails for some hiking and sightseeing. Daniel grew stressed as the boys' not-so-perilous journey continued on. Daniel can be seen punching his phone and getting annoyed with the boys in several of the TikToks uploaded during their trip. At one point, Daniel even demanded that he be brought back to Denver. After Daniel suspected that he was being driven around in circles by Wyatt and Friends, to ease his paranoia, they pulled over at a Walgreens. The boys presumably left just after sending Daniel into the Walgreens, abandoning him with no warning. Wyatt claimed that Daniel had food, water, and money, although Daniel doesn't seem to make any indication of this.

== A Way Home ==
Rather than buying a bus ticket from Colorado Springs to Denver, Daniel decided he would begin a perilous seventy-mile journey back home. Daniel alleged that he had walked over fifty miles that night, although several people following the Larson lore estimated this figure as being closer to twenty miles. Daniel made it as far as Monument, Colorado, where he posted a TikTok of himself sipping on an iced coffee at the Coffee Cup Cafe. Several Larsonians came to Daniel's rescue soon after; and brought him back to Denver, even listening to his music on the way back.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yjhcod/i_thought_someone_took_him_back_to_denver_after/</ref>

Abandoned in Colorado Springs

2025-02-05T01:44:25Z

TheHighKing: Maor

{{Sources}}

On October 20, 2022, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was abandoned at a Colorado Springs Walgreens by Wyatt and friends, who had met him the night prior at a Dave & Buster's in Denver. Wyatt claimed that Daniel was far more than he could handle. Thus, he and his friend opted to abandon him. The full story of the events leading to Daniel's abandonment has not yet been told.

== Previous Day ==

=== A Fateful Meeting at Dave & Buster's ===
On the night of October 19, 2022, Daniel posted several TikToks from a Dave & Buster's in Denver, Colorado. In the video, he invited his fans to join him in his shenanigans. Wyatt and his alleged business partner, Jesse, met up with him there in response to Daniel's post.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1brs5e3/in_honor_of_daniels_trip_to_colorado_springs/</ref>

=== Hot Box and a Place to Stay ===
Daniel posted several TikToks from inside Wyatt's car; in one video, a bong can be seen being passed around. It is believed that Daniel consumed marijuana from the bong as well.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gd190a/can_someone_help_me_find_a_video_from_when_danny/</ref>

Daniel then stayed with Wyatt and friends in a hotel room from which he made more TikTok content.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/y9ead1/daniel_left_stranded_in_colorado_springs/</ref>

== Road Trip ==
[[File:DanielsTrip.png|thumb|This is one of many routes from Colorado Springs, CO, to Denver, CO. Daniel claimed that this is the seventy-mile trip he was making before being rescued in Monument, CO.]]
On the morning of October 20, 2022, Wyatt and friends brought Daniel to the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs; they took to the trails for some hiking and sightseeing. Daniel grew stressed as the boys' not-so-perilous journey continued on. Daniel can be seen punching his phone and getting annoyed with the boys in several of the TikToks uploaded during their trip. At one point, Daniel even demanded that he be brought back to Denver. After Daniel suspected that he was being driven around in circles by Wyatt and Friends, to ease his paranoia, they pulled over at a Walgreens. The boys presumably left just after sending Daniel into the Walgreens, abandoning him with no warning. Wyatt claimed that Daniel had food, water, and money, although Daniel doesn't seem to make any indication of this.

== A Way Home ==
Rather than buying a bus ticket from Colorado Springs to Denver, Daniel decided he would begin a perilous seventy-mile journey back home. Daniel alleged that he had walked over fifty miles that night, although several people following the Larson lore estimated this figure as being closer to twenty miles. Daniel made it as far as Monument, Colorado, where he posted a TikTok of himself sipping on an iced coffee at the Coffee Cup Cafe. Several Larsonians came to Daniel's rescue soon after; and brought him back to Denver, even listening to his music on the way back.

Abandoned in Colorado Springs

2025-02-05T01:41:22Z

TheHighKing: Sourcing

{{Sources}}

On October 20, 2022, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was abandoned at a Colorado Springs Walgreens by Wyatt and friends, who had met him the night prior at a Dave & Buster's in Denver. Wyatt claimed that Daniel was far more than he could handle. Thus, he and his friend opted to abandon him. The full story of the events leading to Daniel's abandonment has not yet been told.

== Previous Day ==

=== A Fateful Meeting at Dave & Buster's ===
On the night of October 19, 2022, Daniel posted several TikToks from a Dave & Buster's in Denver, Colorado. In the video, he invited his fans to join him in his shenanigans. Wyatt and his alleged business partner, Jesse, met up with him there in response to Daniel's post.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1brs5e3/in_honor_of_daniels_trip_to_colorado_springs/</ref>

=== Hot Box and a Place to Stay ===
Daniel posted several TikToks from inside Wyatt's car; in one video, a bong can be seen being passed around. It is believed that Daniel consumed marijuana from the bong as well.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gd190a/can_someone_help_me_find_a_video_from_when_danny/</ref>

Daniel then stayed with Wyatt and friends in a hotel room from which he made more TikTok content.

== Road Trip ==
[[File:DanielsTrip.png|thumb|This is one of many routes from Colorado Springs, CO, to Denver, CO. Daniel claimed that this is the seventy-mile trip he was making before being rescued in Monument, CO.]]
On the morning of October 20, 2022, Wyatt and friends brought Daniel to the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs; they took to the trails for some hiking and sightseeing. Daniel grew stressed as the boys' not-so-perilous journey continued on. Daniel can be seen punching his phone and getting annoyed with the boys in several of the TikToks uploaded during their trip. At one point, Daniel even demanded that he be brought back to Denver. After Daniel suspected that he was being driven around in circles by Wyatt and Friends, to ease his paranoia, they pulled over at a Walgreens. The boys presumably left just after sending Daniel into the Walgreens, abandoning him with no warning. Wyatt claimed that Daniel had food, water, and money, although Daniel doesn't seem to make any indication of this.

== A Way Home ==
Rather than buying a bus ticket from Colorado Springs to Denver, Daniel decided he would begin a perilous seventy-mile journey back home. Daniel alleged that he had walked over fifty miles that night, although several people following the Larson lore estimated this figure as being closer to twenty miles. Daniel made it as far as Monument, Colorado, where he posted a TikTok of himself sipping on an iced coffee at the Coffee Cup Cafe. Several Larsonians came to Daniel's rescue soon after; and brought him back to Denver, even listening to his music on the way back.

Abandoned in Colorado Springs

2025-02-05T01:40:10Z

TheHighKing: Adding general.sourve

{{Sources}}

On October 20, 2022, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was abandoned at a Colorado Springs Walgreens by Wyatt and friends, who had met him the night prior at a Dave & Buster's in Denver. Wyatt claimed that Daniel was far more than he could handle. Thus, he and his friend opted to abandon him. The full story of the events leading to Daniel's abandonment has not yet been told.

== Previous Day ==

=== A Fateful Meeting at Dave & Buster's ===
On the night of October 19, 2022, Daniel posted several TikToks from a Dave & Buster's in Denver, Colorado. In the video, he invited his fans to join him in his shenanigans. Wyatt and his alleged business partner, Jesse, met up with him there in response to Daniel's post.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1brs5e3/in_honor_of_daniels_trip_to_colorado_springs/</ref>

=== Hot Box and a Place to Stay ===
Daniel posted several TikToks from inside Wyatt's car; in one video, a bong can be seen being passed around. It is believed that Daniel consumed marijuana from the bong as well.

Daniel then stayed with Wyatt and friends in a hotel room from which he made more TikTok content.

== Road Trip ==
[[File:DanielsTrip.png|thumb|This is one of many routes from Colorado Springs, CO, to Denver, CO. Daniel claimed that this is the seventy-mile trip he was making before being rescued in Monument, CO.]]
On the morning of October 20, 2022, Wyatt and friends brought Daniel to the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs; they took to the trails for some hiking and sightseeing. Daniel grew stressed as the boys' not-so-perilous journey continued on. Daniel can be seen punching his phone and getting annoyed with the boys in several of the TikToks uploaded during their trip. At one point, Daniel even demanded that he be brought back to Denver. After Daniel suspected that he was being driven around in circles by Wyatt and Friends, to ease his paranoia, they pulled over at a Walgreens. The boys presumably left just after sending Daniel into the Walgreens, abandoning him with no warning. Wyatt claimed that Daniel had food, water, and money, although Daniel doesn't seem to make any indication of this.

== A Way Home ==
Rather than buying a bus ticket from Colorado Springs to Denver, Daniel decided he would begin a perilous seventy-mile journey back home. Daniel alleged that he had walked over fifty miles that night, although several people following the Larson lore estimated this figure as being closer to twenty miles. Daniel made it as far as Monument, Colorado, where he posted a TikTok of himself sipping on an iced coffee at the Coffee Cup Cafe. Several Larsonians came to Daniel's rescue soon after; and brought him back to Denver, even listening to his music on the way back.

@daniellarson0001

2025-02-05T01:31:53Z

TheHighKing: Adding number of fans

[[File:4EA19C79-5F4D-4C5E-BB12-5278B5DE371F.jpg|thumb|Photo of the account’s profile picture, screen name, account name, bio, follower count, following count, and like count. (circa September 27, 2022)|269x269px]]
Daniel Larson (tag: @daniellarson0001) was one of many [[Social Media Accounts|TikTok accounts]] created by [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] in early 2022, with the first video being posted on the account on January 8, and the final video being posted on February 12. The account was not deleted or deactivated, but merely abandoned by Daniel.

It is notable for portraying both one of Daniel's multiple [[Homeless Arc|homeless sagas]], as well as introducing the iconic side character [[Sleepy Joe]]. This homeless saga was particularly notable for occurring in the winter months of January and early February, in which Denver experiences lots of snow and bitterly cold weather. Somehow [[Danderson]] managed to make it.

On January 27, Daniel would inexplicitly switch to another TikTok account, Daniel Larson (tag: @daniellarson828).

He would switch back to 0001 after this day, but revert back to 828 on February 4, the background of two videos indicating he had got housing.

The dead account has over 50k followers.

== Sleepy Joe ==
[[Sleepy Joe]] was a minor but memorable side character in Danderson lore, featured for the first and only time on this account.

He was a napping homeless man who happened to be sleeping in the same theatre Daniel was in. Across five videos posted to the account, Daniel bothers the man, getting very close to him and talking to his fans about wanting to make a porno with the poor man. He also sang the man a lullaby.

All of the videos were posted on January 15, and because of later TikTok comments, it can be deduced that the videos were filmed in the early hours of that same day, sometime before 2 AM. Despite his brief and uneventful part in the wider Danderson story, Sleepy Joe remains a fan favorite of the Daniel Larson community.

=== Videos ===
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The other 4 videos:
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== Took the Midnight Train, Going Anywhere (in Denver) ==
Before sunrise on January 15, after being done harassing Sleepy Joe (or losing interest in the movie), Daniel took a ride on the Denver RTD. He documented the experience in 6 videos posted that morning.

=== Videos ===
(To be archived and added)

== External Links ==
[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson0001?lang=en]
[[Category:Accounts|daniellarson0001]]

@daniellarson0001

2025-02-05T01:29:58Z

TheHighKing: External

[[File:4EA19C79-5F4D-4C5E-BB12-5278B5DE371F.jpg|thumb|Photo of the account’s profile picture, screen name, account name, bio, follower count, following count, and like count. (circa September 27, 2022)|269x269px]]
Daniel Larson (tag: @daniellarson0001) was one of many [[Social Media Accounts|TikTok accounts]] created by [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] in early 2022, with the first video being posted on the account on January 8, and the final video being posted on February 12. The account was not deleted or deactivated, but merely abandoned by Daniel.

It is notable for portraying both one of Daniel's multiple [[Homeless Arc|homeless sagas]], as well as introducing the iconic side character [[Sleepy Joe]]. This homeless saga was particularly notable for occurring in the winter months of January and early February, in which Denver experiences lots of snow and bitterly cold weather. Somehow [[Danderson]] managed to make it.

On January 27, Daniel would inexplicitly switch to another TikTok account, Daniel Larson (tag: @daniellarson828).

He would switch back to 0001 after this day, but revert back to 828 on February 4, the background of two videos indicating he had got housing.

== Sleepy Joe ==
[[Sleepy Joe]] was a minor but memorable side character in Danderson lore, featured for the first and only time on this account.

He was a napping homeless man who happened to be sleeping in the same theatre Daniel was in. Across five videos posted to the account, Daniel bothers the man, getting very close to him and talking to his fans about wanting to make a porno with the poor man. He also sang the man a lullaby.

All of the videos were posted on January 15, and because of later TikTok comments, it can be deduced that the videos were filmed in the early hours of that same day, sometime before 2 AM. Despite his brief and uneventful part in the wider Danderson story, Sleepy Joe remains a fan favorite of the Daniel Larson community.

=== Videos ===
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The other 4 videos:
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== Took the Midnight Train, Going Anywhere (in Denver) ==
Before sunrise on January 15, after being done harassing Sleepy Joe (or losing interest in the movie), Daniel took a ride on the Denver RTD. He documented the experience in 6 videos posted that morning.

=== Videos ===
(To be archived and added)

== External Links ==
[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson0001?lang=en]
[[Category:Accounts|daniellarson0001]]

Pedophilia

2025-02-04T23:00:42Z

TheHighKing: Adding source, but archived version

{{Rewrite|reason=Vandalism from past editors, lots of misinformation. Literally just don't use this article if you'd like to write anything about his pedophilia}}
{{CW}}{{SpecialMessage|Message=Due to the subject matter of this article, there will be a much higher standard of evidence. All claims must be sourced, preferably from primary and secondary sourced.}}
[[Daniel Larson|Daniel Larson's]] most (in)famous trait is his extensive history regarding '''pedophilia''' and '''pedophilic behavior.''' It is unclear where this behavior comes from. While the cause is extensively debated, It is speculated to have come from alleged childhood sexual abuse, the twisted, disjointed way he views the world (on account of his [[Mental Health|mental illnesses]]), intense porn addiction, and his stunted sexual development.

While Daniel has been manipulated to make admissions of pedophilia and evidence has been faked by past [[management]] and [[trolls]], there is irrefutable evidence that outright confirms Daniel to be a pedophile.

== Origins==
===Alleged Childhood Sexual Abuse===
{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|It is unknown if Daniel was truly raped or if he had an act adjacent to that performed onto him. It is important to note that Daniel is perfectly capable of being a pedophile, and exhibiting pedophilic tendencies, without constant accusations of childhood rape.}}[[File:Daniel Quora question about his mom.png|thumb|Daniel's question on [[Quora]] about his mother.]][[File:Daniel Sexual Abuse claims.png|thumb|Michelle Lawrence's comment on Facebook.|left]]It is speculated and constantly debated that Daniel's pedophilia is a result of a traumatic childhood experience, such as facing sexual abuse.

As such, it is speculated that Daniel's [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]] sexually assaulted him when he was young. This rumor spread after his [[Quora|Quora page]] was discovered. Quora is a website dedicated to asking and answering questions. On this account, Daniel questioned as to if the reader ever experienced their mother sexually stimulating them as a child. As such, many made the assumption that Elisabeth had carried out this act on his son. However, this is unconfirmed, and most likely false. During the [[Dog Arc]], a Facebook user by the name of Michelle Lawrence claimed to have worked with Daniel during his childhood, most likely during the time in which he was at the [[Tennyson Center]]. She claimed that Daniel had "...a history of child sexual abuse (to him and by him)," which adds believability the claim that Daniel was possibly molested as a child. However, due to no records existing of Michelle actually being an employee at the Tennyson Center, her claims remain invalid. Daniel is known to hold grudges against people, and if he had been previously sexually abused, especially in childhood, he most likely would have already posted about it. [[File:Ryan-Summer Camp abuse allegations.png|thumb]]
This is incredibly important as there has been an incredibly strong link established between childhood abuse and pedophilia, as anywhere between 33% to 75% of child sex offenders report being sexually abused as children.<ref name=":2">https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01542465</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213413000264</ref> According to a Canadian study:
{{Quote|Those who had been sexually abused before age 16 sexually offended against significantly younger victims and had significantly more indicators of pedophilic interest}}
Daniel's pedophilic tendencies could be a response to traumatic events from his childhood. Although Daniel's childhood abuse is tragic, it may have positive implications for his recovery. Sex offenders who were victims as children are more likely to complete treatment and avoid re-offending.<ref>https://journals.lww.com/practicalpsychiatry/abstract/2002/09000/clinical_features_of_pedophilia_and_implications.4.aspx</ref> However, it is highly unlikely for Daniel to receive treatment as a result of his [[Daniel and Mental Health|mental illnesses]] and his unwillingness to receive treatment for them.

Daniel also alleges that he was abused by a person named [[Ryan|"Ryan"]] from 2018-2019, although the validity of Ryan sexually assaulting Daniel is questionable, as information from the [[Caretaker Call]] implies that Daniel may have been the one to assault Ryan. Additionally, statements regarding when Ryan raped him are often contradictory or don't make any sense at all. For example, Daniel claims that Ryan sexually assaulted him due to Ryan supposedly being jealous of his perceived "[[Delusions|fame]]."

One of the earliest recorded instances of someone accusing Daniel of pedophilia online was November 22, 2020.<ref>https://x.com/jahaha_0/status/1330672361218088962</ref><ref>https://archive.ph/TbDbr</ref>

== Examples of Pedophilic Behaviour ==

===Obsession With Child Celebrities and Children in general ===
One of the most consistently appearing figures in the Daniel Larson saga is [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom he was obsessed with when she was well under the age of 18. Daniel has been known to like, bookmark, and watch videos of children. His usual subjects are celebrities such as the aforementioned Grace and Darci Lynne, but also with random children, which most disturbingly, were as young as infants. In October of 2023, Daniel was caught by a Reddit user liking photos of their infant child.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1731tnt/daniel_just_followed_me_on_tiktok_and_liked_all/</ref>

===Camera Roll===
On an unknown date, Daniel accidentally exposed his camera roll to his camera, which displayed possibly hundred of saved photos of children on his phone, some of them containing explicitly illegal photos of child nudity.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/k0vTOpu</ref>[Censored, of course]

'''Second Pinterest'''[[File:Daniel’s Screenshot.jpg|alt=Daniel Larson’s Screenshot|thumb|The screenshot Daniel uploaded, with his profile photo circled.]]In September 2023, Daniel’s second Pinterest was exposed by a Reddit user. The account was found when Daniel uploaded a screenshot which included his profile photo and an account he followed. His account, “Joy King” or comfortablecop12, was found by looking through J Gummysmile’s following list.

The account included several photos of Grace Vanderwaal and other child stars in bikinis alongside articles on masturbation, like his first Pinterest.

Once this account was exposed on the subreddit, he attempted to delete it. He claimed he has never used Pinterest before (despite posting several Pinterest screenshots the night before being exposed) and reported the subreddit.

=== Quora Leak===
''See [[Quora]]''

Daniel's Quora account, leaked some time after August of 2022 by Flexburger, featured even more admissions of pedophilia from Daniel, with quotes as blatant as:<blockquote>"Why do I have strange thoughts involving children?"

"How do pedophiles pick up a girl?"

"How did your daughter's body react to her first orgasm?"</blockquote>Daniel, despite denying this account was his, accidentally showed him having the Quora app and a Quora account on multiple occasions.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRc8mSqh/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/127uagt/i_thought_he_said_he_doesnt_use_quora/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/111bu6g/daniel_admitting_his_quora_was_hacked/</ref>

===Real Interaction===
Daniel used to live in a home with a family that had two children, one of them being named [[Breanna]]. The son of the two children recorded a highly disturbing video of Daniel Larson pouncing on and trying to kiss Breanna,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12tkn0s/_/</ref>[Extreme content warning] his sister. Daniel admitted to masturbating in front of Breanna and her brother in the "Columbia Records" Discord,<ref>https://reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17w5mc6/im_100_convinced_daniel_molested_brianna/</ref> admitted to touching her chest,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12y2xrb/_/</ref> and later making extremely graphic comments about Breanna, such as calling her an "upcoming pornstar."

===Sting Operations ===
Given Daniel's infamy on the internet as a lolcow and a horrorcow. Various trolls would approach him with the intent of trolling him, only to be met with his disturbing behavior. Several trolls impersonated 14-year-old actor Issy Simpson in order to catfish Daniel Larson on Kik, a messaging app. Daniel's conversations with the sting are highly disturbing, featuring Daniel asking extremely disgusting and sexual questions about minors. Several instances showcasing Daniel's pedophilic behavior have been leaked to Reddit. Many of them are cited above, below are three others that were not mentioned. All are compilations of leaked direct messages between Daniel and trolls.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14eqch4/since_daniel_wants_people_to_stop_calling_him_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 Ten pages of proof]

[[May 23rd Leak]]

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/158wihg/the_big_gangsta_clique_has_hacked_grace July 25th Leak]

=== Admissions ===
On January 16, 2023, Daniel went live after talking with a fake Grace VanderWaal who had convinced him to admit to both being a pedophile, and to having struck [[Bob Proctor]] on multiple occasions. User [https://www.reddit.com/user/Zealousideal-Hand-2 Zealousideal-Hand-2] on [[r/Daniellarson]] claimed to have been at least one of the "Graces" involved in extracting this admission.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10dzmlg/boys_im_glad_to_have_helped/</ref>

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On July 28, 2023, Daniel posted a video to his Youtube account after being "told by the FBI" to admit to his pedophilic action. Daniel admitted to sending nude pictures to minors, masturbating in public spaces, and shoving a water bottle into his rectum.

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On October 8, 2023, Daniel admits to saving nude pictures of a child onto his phone and keeping it for an extended period of time. these were supposedly sent to him by an unknown troll pretending to be Grace Vanderwaal as "video verification".

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}}Daniel has admitted to, or has been manipulated into admitting that he is a pedophile in the past and present on multiple occasions, the video above being what is believed to be the first 'admission' ''(keep in mind that Daniel has been possibly manipulated into his admissions)''. Here are some quotes from some of his various admissions:<blockquote>"I admit... that I am a pedophile..." "...the reason being... is that I... growing up I didn't have anybody that, really, cared about me and I didn't have anybody that supported me."<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-admission</ref>

"In the past, I used to... uhm... use pictures of girls, uhm, and uhm, masturbate to them. Unfortunately, that was over, uhh... that was a long time ago, to be honest... and I am no longer that person, and I reached out for help and uhm, and, it just so happened that, since I gained popularity on the media, uhm, people found out about my past."<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7Qs7k_L04</ref>

"I am sorry, Dave, for looking up CP and for looking up kids wetting the bed... I am so fucking sorry."<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12lj1em/daniel_didnt_even_know_what_cp_meant_when_he_was/</ref>

"I am sorry for having 500 megabytes of child p*rn [''whispering'']"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18fjy7b/megabytes/</ref>

"I repent! That I am sorry for... masturbating to, pictures of children and Grace. I am sorry!"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/x3qcrz/daniel_repents/</ref></blockquote>While there is the possibility of manipulation, it is only a suspicion rather than an actual fact.

== Concept of Wrongdoing ==
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