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Daniel Larson

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* As a diagnosed [[Daniel and Mental Health|schizophrenic]], Daniel is prone to delusional thinking, and has a hard time differentiating what is real and what is not.
* Daniel has a history of compulsive lying.
* Daniel will often exaggerate things that happened, often to make himself look better.
* Daniel's accounts on how certain events play out vary each time he recalls them
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{{Quote|Hello, this is Daniel Larson.|author=Daniel, in almost all of his videos.}}
{{Quote|I'm not saying he's a finished job, he's got more work to do, but, he's a much different child than he was when he first came here.|author=[[Nancy Shimer]], about a young Daniel.}}
'''Daniel Robert Larson''' (born November 15, 1998), also known as '''[[Danderson]]''', '''Mr. President''', or "'''Zoomer Chris penis Chan,'''" is a 26-year-old [[Daniel and Mental Health|mentally ill]] internet personality and convicted [[Daniel and the Law|criminal]] who claims to be a [[Music Career|singer-songwriter]], celebrity, [[Southwest Model and Talent Agency|fashion model]], and [[Presidential Campaigns|President of the United States]]. He also claims to be engaged to former ''America's Got Talent'' star, [[Grace VanderWaal]], despite having never met her in person.

In 2020, Daniel gained a sizeable following due to his unusual style of content, unorthodox appearance, and [[Incidents|erratic behavior]]. As Daniel's popularity increased, more and more people began to exploit his gullibility. Many of these trolls were inspired by the trolling of previous controversial Internet personalities, seeing Daniel as a new [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Christian_Weston_Chandler Chris Chan] or [[wikipedia:Terry_A._Davis|Terry A. Davis]]. To gain Daniel's attention and trust, [[trolls]] would pose as [[Management|managers]] or employees of record labels, preying upon his delusions of fame and fortune. Daniel would fall for their ruses almost every single time, which only served to [[Daniel and reality|worsen his delusions]] of fame and fortune. These managers would have him constantly perform degrading acts, and make him say embarrassing things on camera. The constant trolling resulted in Daniel having very high levels of paranoia, which would lead him to further spiral into lunacy.

Daniel considers himself a celebrity, specifically, a [[Music Career|world-famous musician]] that billions of people know, despite spending the majority of his adult life as a [[Homeless Era|homeless vagrant.]] Despite this, Daniel managed to produce three studio-recorded songs; [[Roaring Thunder|"Roaring Thunder,"]] [[Something More|"Something More"]] and [[Merry Go Round|"Merry Go Round."]] His music is not what Daniel is most known for, as his TikTok's showcasing his disturbing [[Incidents|meltdowns]] garner far more attention.

The primary reason behind his behavior is attributed to the several [[Daniel Larson's health|mental disorders]] he is afflicted with, and his unwillingness to receive treatment for them. As of 2025, Daniel is confirmed to have [[Daniel and Mental Health|autism,]] [[Daniel and Mental Health|bipolar disorder, PTSD, and, most notably, schizophrenia]], which adds intense difficulty to his daily life.

Daniel's content is hosted on his many [[Social Media Accounts|TikTok and YouTube accounts]]. Many of these accounts have been banned over the years with the reasons for his bans varying greatly. In one notable instance, Daniel was banned from TikTok for [[The May 6th Incident|exposing his genitals on a live stream]]. Other reasons for his bans range from him admitting to [[pedophilia]], use of [[Daniel and Race|racial slurs]], and [[College Arc|assaults]] on [[Self Harm|himself]] and [[December 10th Incident|others]], including his [[Bob Proctor|elderly mentor]], Bob Proctor. As well as [[Pink room|destruction of both public and private property]].

From 2021 onwards, Daniel faced many significant life-altering setbacks. He moved from house to house before becoming [[Homeless Era|homeless]], contracted [[scabies]], [[August 29st Meltdown|threatened to end the life]] of [[Grace VanderWaal]], [[Dog Arc|adopted a dog]] and had it taken away, [[Bodega Incident|assaulted a bodega employee]], attempted to enroll in [[College Arc|college]] [[UCLA Arc|'''twice''']], pulled a fire alarm at an [[Olive Garden Incident|Olive Garden]], [[Daniel and the Law|faced arrest on multiple occasions]], and became significantly more mentally ill than when he first started posted online.

There has truly been no one like Daniel Larson. In short, Daniel's story is one that is not fated to have a happy ending, leaving his life as a tale of bad parenting, the effects of untreated mental illness, gullibility, narcissism, sexual deviancy, criminal activity, and, most importantly, the world watching a man deteriorate day by day.

As of current, Daniel is [[Second Jail Arc|institutionalized]] at the [[wikipedia:United_States_Medical_Center_for_Federal_Prisoners|United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners]] near Springfield, Missouri, having been transferred there sometime after his arrest for making terroristic threats in [[April 30th Arrest|April 2024]].
==Before Era==

=== Childhood and Adolescence ===
{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|Daniel has never been officially confirmed to have been abused as a child, much less sexually. News articles, videos, and posts often state that he has been, often citing Daniel himself, who is known to be an unreliable narrator. On the other hand, it is very likely that Daniel himself was the abuser. While it is highly likely Daniel may have suffered abuse, please take any claims made by him with a grain of salt until further confirmation.}}
[[File:Youngdaniel.png|left|thumb|254x254px|Daniel, at five months old.]][[File:GoofyAhhDanderson.png|thumb|Notice how he has all of his teeth. |262x262px]]
Daniel Robert Larson was born on November 15, 1998, in [[wikipedia:Lancaster,_California|Lancaster, California,]] to parents [[Elisabeth Shimer|Elisabeth Lee Shimer]] and [[Travis Larson|James Travis Larson]]. His parents were fairly young at the time of his birth; his mother aged 22, and his father only 20. Daniel's genesis could have been spurred by claims of his father being "obsessed with [[Daniel and Sex|sex]]," however, this claim is difficult to verify.<ref>[[:File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png]]</ref>

In 2001, Daniel's mother gave birth to his late siblings, [[Family#Joyetta and Olivia Larson|Joyetta and Olivia]], who would sadly pass away due to blood type incompatibility between the girls and their mother.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>

Observing Daniel’s facial features, including a thin, flat upper lip and small eye openings, it has been speculated that Daniel may suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome.<ref>https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/15677-fetal-alcohol-syndrome</ref> However, this cannot be proven, and furthermore, it is way more likely that [[Daniel and health|genetic disorders]] from Daniel's parents passed onto him.

When Daniel was a toddler, he was said to have been playmates with his neighbor's [[Dog Arc|dog]]. In one of his TikToks, Daniel describes himself as an “animal murderer,” describing how the dog impaled itself on a spiked fence while the two were playing.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@averagelarsonian/video/7196410748418018606</ref> While Daniel was obviously not the one who killed the animal, this can be thought of as a starting point for his violent tendencies, which would only worsen as he matured.

In Daniel's childhood, he went camping. During this trip, he felt something large brush his leg. Daniel believed this to be Bigfoot. This belief stuck with him, even into adulthood.<ref>[[UCLA Arc]]</ref><gallery>
File:BabyDan1.png|Sleep in heavenly peace.
File:BabyDan2.png|Even then, he had a beak.
File:BabyDan3.png|Makes you think how he turned out the way he did.
</gallery>Following his parents break-up in 2010, Daniel moved to Colorado with his mother. According to accounts from Daniel's mother, Travis supposedly saw his son as a “lost cause”, believing that his son would never improve or achieve anything significant in life.<ref>[[Elisabeth Shimer]]</ref> The decision to move was also influenced by Colorado's reputedly better mental and physical health support opposed to California's.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/comment/jj419qs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref> Better physical care would also benefit Daniel's mother, who became wheelchair bound as a result of a decades-long battle with lupus. {{Quote|I'm Danny's mom and yes we have moved here for the services. He doesn't just have autism he has severe bi polar and shizophrenic. He has beaten me and my mom... he has lied and has fantasies about so many things. He does not want to listen to authority...he is not famous but wants to beleive he is.he does what he wants and if you dont let him he gets violent..if you want more information contact me|author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>}}

According to his mother, Daniel displayed severe signs of violent behavior at a young age, and was professionally diagnosed with [[Daniel and Mental Health|mental disabilities]] such as autism, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia.<ref name=":4">[[:File:Elisabeth Final Comment.png|File:Elisabeth Final Comment.png]]</ref> This may be because his mother, and possibly his father, are likely mentally challenged to some extent, and those diseases passed onto their son. It is unknown what conditions they suffer from.{{collapse top|result=More of Young Daniel}}
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File:DanielandElisabeth.png|Talk about getting the genetic middle finger.
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Daniel's childhood was wrought with tenuous claims of neglect and alleged [[Pedophilia#Alleged Childhood Sexual Abuse|sexual abuse]], which, if true, may have left him with childhood trauma which exacerbated his already chaotic behavior, and even more, contributing to his later [[Pedophilia|pedophilic tendencies]]. A health worker who claimed to have worked with Daniel claimed that he had a, "...history of child sexual abuse (to him and by him)," although what this means is unclear. It has not been confirmed if this person actually helped Daniel, leaving its validity questionable at best.<ref>[[:File:Daniel Sexual Abuse claims.png|File:Daniel Sexual Abuse claims.png]]</ref>
{{Quote|I worked with this person when he was a child/teen in a severe treatment center in Denver.... he's had a horrible upbringing and does suffer from multiple behavior and personality issues. This is a man with deep rooted mental health problems! It's very sad and I hope that the dog and himself finds help. There's a history of child sexual abuse (to him and by him) as well. How he acts ISNT A GAME or him faking.... It's truly how his brain thinks and it's severely debilitated! Very sad story to see this from working with him as a teen....}}

[[File:DanielFosterHomeForm.png|thumb|523x523px|The DDRC describing Daniel to potential foster parents.]]
At around age 11, Daniel was taken away from his mother by the State of Colorado due to neglect Daniel had allegedly faced at the hands of his mother, which both he and a later news report reaffirm.<ref name=":0">[[Rooftop Interview]]</ref> Given the state's actions, it is likely that Daniel was truthful regarding his later claims of neglect.

Daniel's mother has alleged that [[Nancy Shimer]], Daniel's grandmother, as well as her adopted mother, spread lies about her abusing her son for unknown reasons.<ref name=":4" /> However, It is highly unlikely that Elisabeth was stable enough to take care of Daniel as she was wheelchair-bound, difficulty only added by Daniel’s destructive behavior. Due to her disability, Elisabeth eventually went into assisted living in 2015 when Daniel was around 16-17 years old.

According to [[Flexburger]], a future manager of Daniel:

{{Quote|Daniel moved to Hugo, Colorado with his mom after she split with Travis. She couldn’t take care of him anymore because she was paralyzed. And Daniel was an asshole. I asked him about her getting paralyzed. He told me she was stuck on the kitchen floor for a couple months straight by herself and couldn’t get up. I knew that was a lie so I asked “so she shit and pissed herself on the floor for a couple months straight?” to with daniel responded “yes”.|Flexburger|author=Flexburger}}

Daniel claims that he bounced between 10-15 foster homes in the years following the state's intervention.<ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsAGVvnzbms&t=1298s</ref> This is evidenced by documents that the [[DDRC|Developmental Disabilities Resource Center]] (DDRC) sent to potential fosters families and host homes. These documents warns families that Daniel, "...has a history of [[7/11 incident|property damage]], [[Dog Arc|kicking animals]], [[August 29th Meltdown|self-injurious]] behavior, and verbally threatening or [[December 10th Incident|hitting providers]] when he's upset," which corroborates claims of him being extremely violent, even in childhood. One of the foster homes he would stay in was the [[Tennyson Center|Tennyson Center for Children]], an assisted living facility for schooling, rehabilitating, and assisting children with intellectual disabilities or youth who faced neglect, abuse, and other mistreatment. At this school, he met his mentor, [[Bob Proctor]], via a reading buddy program where they played board games and read books.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> After the program concluded, Daniel and Bob still remained close.

Eventually, his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]], was eventually granted legal guardianship of him following a long custody battle.

Despite her kinder treatment of Daniel, Nancy was known to be enabling of his bad habits. When Daniel a toddler, Nancy was said to have rewarded him with M&M's after he had drawn on the walls of her home.{{Citation Needed}} Because of this enabling, Elisabeth and Travis tried to gain custody of their son, beleiving that Nancy would not raise their son correctly. Despite their collective efforts, the both ultimately failed. When Travis tried to file for custody of Daniel, Nancy opposed it, claiming that Daniel, "didn't even know his father," raising serious doubts and questions about their relationship. Due to the hostile accusations hurled during the custody disputes, Travis grew to despise Nancy, allegedly calling her a "bitch," and claiming that the only reason she had custody of Daniel was due to her greater financial situation.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> Unlike Travis, Elisabeth was eventually given visitation rights to see Daniel once more.

Daniel even made it on the news, being [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report|featured on local Denver news station KWGN]]. The clip documented his time at the [[Tennyson Center]], in which he lived for over a year prior to Nancy gaining custody of him, where he was now continuing to receive schooling at. [[File:SobeskyDan4.png|thumb|434x434px|Our beloved Danny boy. ]]
Throughout his childhood, Daniel was almost exclusively referred as 'Danny.' He was even called this in his high school yearbook and in the news report he was featured in. According to his classmates, Daniel was a very violent person, even in class. One of his classmates refers to a time in which Daniel threw a chair at a window which resulted in a light fixture being knocked down.<ref>[[Canned Legs Leaks]]</ref>
{{Quote|i also remember he threw a chair at the window in the computer lab that overlooked the library and knocked down one of the light fixtures. but yeah that sums it up lol}}
According to this same classmate, Daniel had a habit of running in the hallways in an attempt to evade staff. Due to his troubled behavior, Daniel was assigned a guardian who followed him throughout the entire school day.<ref>[[Katie Elise]]</ref> When questioned about this, he asserted that it wasn't due to his lack of trustworthiness, but rather because of the positive relationship he had with his teachers.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref>

Just like his childhood, his time in school was wrought with alleged claims of mistreatment and bullying. Daniel claimed that the Tennyson Center was a, "...very violent place."<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> According to Daniel, the Tennyson Center had a brick room only lit up by a single window, dubbed the 'Timeout Room.' Daniel claimed to have been placed in this room on several occasions for behavior such as excessive crying and not cooperating with teachers. Other students would be physically restrained due to violent behavior, however, this seems to have never happened to Daniel.

It should also be noted that the Tennyson Center has a less than positive reputation, with many past students and attendents of their programs claiming that they had been abused while attending. This can be further corroborated by the fact that the Tennyson Centers residential living program would eventually shut down following the death of an 11-year-old boy in Tennysons care, as well as several instances of sexual misconduct between children, runaways, drug overdoses, and children harming themselves.<ref>https://coloradosun.com/2021/03/23/tennyson-center-residential-program/</ref> It is likely that Daniel may have faced the same mistreatment as other students have claimed, but this is unclear.

When in school, Daniel claimed that children would tease him by calling him '[[wikipedia:Danny_Phantom|Danny Phantom]],' a nickname derived from the fictional character of the same name. According to a classmate, this seemed to have very little effect on him.<ref>[[FlyingFoxandwings AMA]]</ref> These claims of being bullied only seemed to arise in adulthood. {{Quote|Contrary to what he may say, people were actually quite respectful towards him. We all knew we had our own issues, and for the most part, nobody meant any harm towards him. Whenever he was called Danny phantom, there was no malicious intent. He didn't even really react to it. I guess that's more something that came after he graduated. But no, not really anybody bullied him. This particular school was quite small, so when I say that, not really, anybody bullied him, I mean, there were about 18 of us in the high school. Even the biggest bully in the school didn't really pay much mind to him. He was just that reserved.}}

During this time, he would participate in several extracurricular activities. According to his [https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-larson-b734b2196/ Linkedin page], Daniel was a volunteer dog walker for the Humane Society of Boulder Valley in January of 2012, although there little information regarding this occupation. Sometime in 2014, Daniel started attending and participating in several [[Musical Theater|musical theater programs.]] Daniel is known to have participated in at least eight different musicals, although he rarely got leading roles. His roles in these musicals may have set the groundwork for his desire to be famous. [[File:Openingschool.png|left|thumb|284x284px|Daniel, at the opening of Sobesky Academy. ]]

In many of the photos from his time in musical theater, Daniel is visibly smaller than almost all of his classmates, only exacerbated by his odd bowl-cut hairstyle. Daniel may suffer from something such as [[wikipedia:Progeria|Progeria]] which would explain his physical appearance, however, this claim cannot be substantiated.

Daniel began attending [[Sobesky Academy]] in 2016, the same year that it opened. It should be noted that Sobesky, while having a large population of children with special needs, was not exclusively a special needs school. This was due to Sobesky being an [[wikipedia:Alternative_school|alternative school]], which aimed to rehabilitate troubled students and prepare them for reintegrating with their district schools.<ref>[[FlyingFoxandwings AMA]]</ref> Due to him never being reintegrated, there are questions surrounding the validity of his high school diploma.

There is not much known about Daniel's time in Sobesky, as Daniel seemingly hasn't talked much about his high-school years, as opposed to his time in the Tennyson Center which he seems to hold in higher regard. Though, according to [[FlyingFoxandwings AMA|one of his high-school classmates]], Daniel, even in high school, had an escort, which implies that Daniel had violent tendencies all throughout his teenage years.

{{Quote|He seemed pretty normal. He really had some issues with academic retention and he was very reserved. He often times would have an escort, and his escorts would call him Danny... ...post-graduation it was like night and day. He went from robotic to the way he is today. It was a rapid turnaround.}}Despite his behavior being far less eccentric during his high school years, he was documented to have had occasional outbursts and [[meltdowns]], during some of which he would [[Self Harm|hit himself]]. These outbursts would result in him being placed into "close and lock," much akin to the punishment room at the Tennyson Center. The reason he is much worse now compared to his time in school could be that Daniel was heavily medicated when he attended Sobesky and Tennyson, whereas nowadays he almost always refuses to take antipsychotics. He was often described as someone who was quiet, a, "...total wallflower," and "...pretty normal."<ref>[[FlyingFoxandwings AMA]]</ref>[[File:Furries.png|thumb|Could our future president be a furry? ]]Daniel, despite being [[Intelligence|unable to do basic math,]] to a point where a classmate described him as having academic retention, took Algebra 2. [[File:Graduation.png|left|thumb|200x200px|Daniel at his high school graduation. ]]{{Quote|He was 4 years older than me so having classes was rare. The only one I had with him was back in 2017 when I was taking Algebra II.}}
Little is known regarding Daniel's experiences in high school, however, he is known to have acted as one of the mascots for his schools softball team. Daniel was said to have been obsessed with [[Music Career|singing]] even during high school, however, there were no mentions of [[Grace VanderWaal]]. Though, sometime when Daniel was around 17, he and his grandmother were watching ''[[wikipedia:America's_Got_Talent|America's Got Talent]].'' It is said that when Daniel was watching it with her, his grandmother remarked that he may sing with her on stage some day. Despite the questionable validity of this statement, Daniel convinced himself, even though at the time [[Pedophilia|Grace was 12, and he was 17 years old]], that he was a part of Grace's life and had a relationship with her. This was the birth of his obsession with her.

Daniel graduated from Sobesky Academy at the age of 18 in 2017, not attending any type of higher education afterwards. The validity of his high school diploma is debated, as he most likely has a Certificate of Completion (COC), opposed to an actual high school degree.

It is most likely that Daniel continued to live with his grandmother after this.
===Adult Chronicles ===
[[File:BroadwayPic.png|left|thumb|Nancy's dog, Broadway.|228x228px]]
Even after graduating, it didn't appear that Daniel's life would get any better. Much to everyone's surprise, Daniel was [[November 6th Arrest|arrested]] on November 6th, 2017, after an incident where he physically assaulted his paralyzed, wheelchair-bound [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]]. Daniel claimed that this incident was a result of his mother cornering him following what was allegedly an argument, but when looking at his charges, this seems unlikely. Daniel was imprisoned for 44-45 days following the arrest. This incident forever ruined him and his mother's relationship, causing Elisabeth to cut all contact with her son.

2019 appeared to be the year when Daniel lost two of the most important people in his life. On April 11, 2019, Daniel had to put down Broadway, his dog, due to her battle with cancer.<ref>https://www.instagram.com/p/BwI7cPMlZtQ/</ref>
{{Quote|Had to put her down today. She had cancer. She was my baby. She was in 2 live performances. Can you wish her luck and good times. She was a fighter and would fight through anything. Her name was Broadway.}}Even more devastatingly, on July 24, 2019, Nancy Shimer, Daniel's grandmother, arguably the most important person in his life, passed away at the age of 72 after a long battle with cancer, when Daniel was 21. [[File:DanielThriftStore.png|thumb|“A nother day at work.”|300x300px]]It is likely that Daniel was still living with his grandmother before her passing. On the day she died, Daniel was attending a Special Olympics event, during which he was informed of his grandmother being on her deathbed. Instead of going to comfort her at the hospice center, Daniel chose to stay at the event to prove that he was a 'fighter.' This incident, though seemingly minor, reflects the profound lack of respect Daniel had for his grandmother, as he could not even be bothered to be with her as she passed away. [[File:Daniel21birthday.png|left|thumb|217x217px|Daniel, drinking a margarita on his 21st birthday.]]Following the death of his grandmother, Daniel was sent to a state-run group home program for the disabled. Even at the age of 20, Daniel was still unable to take care of himself. This housing program gave him a job at a thrift store sometime in 2019. At this job, Daniel was said to have lost all of his money after falling victim to a gift card scam, which left his employment short-lived.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/comment/jj3gtox/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref> This can be used as an example of Daniel being trolled, even before social media.
Sometime in 2019, Daniel began posting to TikTok on his account [[@daniellars20]], however, he did not post on this account often. He was also using other social media sites, such as X (Formerly Twitter) and Instagram. It is unknown how he obtained a phone, but it is likely it was bought with the income from his job at the thrift store. His first known Twitter account was [[@DanielL26324766]], on which he posted about his time in the Special Olympics, and videos of himself hiking.

Daniel, opposed to what he would become later in his life, seemed to be significantly more physically fit during this time. He often posted the amount of steps he had attained on his Fitbit from these hikes. Daniel's 21st birthday also fell in 2019. On his Twitter account, he posted his excitement at being able to go to casinos and being able to legally drink. At his birthday dinner, Daniel drank a margarita.<ref>https://x.com/daniel__larson/status/1195519647967334401?s=46</ref>

In February of 2020, Daniel became convinced that he was a fashion model. He applied to a talent agency called [[Southwest Model and Talent Agency]]. At this modeling agency, Daniel starred in a fashion show.

From 2019 to early 2020, Daniel's life would be relatively peaceful, him unknowing of the things to come.

== Classic Era ==
''Main article: [[Classic Era]]''[[File:D9F97C6D-7448-4BFB-8602-C7FE38903361.jpg|thumb|A cropped meme of the May 6th incident.]]The Classic Era began in March 2020 with the creation of Daniel's notable TikTok account, @daniellarsonfans. His content ranged from showcasing his disability housing to expressing his aspirations to be a singer-songwriter and celebrity. Though, it would be his unorthodox appearance and strange mannerisms that would truly gain him notoriety.

One of his popular videos during this time was one where he said "good night, everyone," to the camera, marking a significant rise in his popularity. In July, he announced his 2020 presidential candidacy, gaining ironic support. Because of this, followers of his would begin to call him "Mr. President" ironically. By August, trolls under the guise of entertainment [[management]] companies and record labels began exploiting his desire for fame, manipulating him into saying and doing increasingly offensive and questionable things. Despite this, Daniel continued to amass followers, and released his first song, "[[Fake News]]," in October.

As the next month rolled around, Daniel's reputation took a significant nosedive. In November, Daniel's [[Pinterest]] account was found and subsequently had its contents exposed. The account contained albums of images of children and a map of the age of consent in the United States, strongly suggesting that Daniel had a sexual interest in young girls. Daniel immediately attempted damage control, claiming that the account was not his, even suggesting he had no idea what Pinterest was. These arguments were quickly deconstructed, as the accounts email was linked to an old Twitter account of his.

Daniel would eventually admit ownership of the account, before immediately returning to denying its existence, just before admitting to owning it once more. He was confronted by multiple parties about the account, including his then-management, [[Roach Records]]. Subsequently, Daniel would delete his Pinterest account by November 21, locking down his TikTok account until December.

Upon returning, he was interviewed by [[The Delegation Podcast]], who asked him several questions about the legitimacy of the Pinterest account. After this, they proceeded to report Daniel to the FBI, as they were under the belief that Daniel was in possession of exploitative images of children.

On December 17, 2020, Daniel made his final post, claiming to be auditioning for America's Got Talent, asking his followers to "please stay turned," Despite this, he did not post again after this. It was later revealed that this disappearance was due to him being reported to FBI, as he was under investigation due to him being suspected to be in the possession of CSAM. [[File:Daniel Larson Fog.png|This instance of the fog in July of 2021. Post on @daniellarsonishere.|thumb|left|374x374px]]

=== Headset Arc ===
''Main Article: [[Headset Arc]]''

After returning to social media in March 2021, Daniel explained that his disappearance was due to him being investigated by the FBI, and that he was "safe" now. Evident from the name of this arc, Daniel is seen wearing a [[Headset Arc|gaming headset]] in many of the videos from this time.

During this time, Daniel would begin to be managed by [[Flexburger]], who at this point operated as "Josh," an employee of the fake record label [[Party House Records]]. He hadn't forgotten about the allegations of pedophilia against him, and sought to expose Daniel once more for who he really was. Flexburger posted several screenshots of Daniel talking sexually to individuals he believed to be minors, as well as footage of Daniel discussing how he would legalize child molestation if he were president. As a result, Daniel declared war on Flexburger, upset that his true nature was exposed.

In response to this, Flexburger used his identity as "Josh" to convince Daniel into [[May 6th|'''flashing his penis on TikTok live''']] in front of 500 viewers, resulting in his swift and immediate ban. This very same incident could occur just a day later, to which Daniel claimed that he was hacked, and had no idea what had happened.

Daniels behaviour would become increasingly more erratic throughout 2021, as sometime in late May, he would be kicked out of one of his disability housing situations due to him punching holes in the wall and screaming, which resulted in authorities being called to remove him from the premises.

On June 24th, and a few days afterward, Daniel would have a [[Likee Meltdown|meltdown]] on the video platform, Likee. He was on this platform due to his phone breaking, and was using a laptop to access the website. Daniel, under the assumption that something deadly happened to the VanderWaal family, hysterically demanded updates on the situation. In the end, he would receive no updates, threatening to end his life, and eventually calling the [[Daniel and the Law|police]].

From July 20 to August 2021, Daniel would stay in the [[Pink room|Pink Room]]. This arc was notable for the bizarrely sexual videos that took place during them, many of his videos having a [[Fog Arc|foggy]] effect on them, and Daniel frequently punching holes in the walls. This, of course, would lead to him being kicked out of this housing situation.
===Hype House Arc===
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''Main Article: [[Hype House Arc]]''

Daniel would go silent for a week after his TikTok account [[@daniellarsoninsocal]], registered to document his time in California, was banned.

Daniel would make his account daniellarsonhotmess around the time of his return, uploading a video of him declaring his hatred for [[The Police|the police]] in a video of him twerking while mouthing off about how bad they are.{{Citation Needed}} In another video in which Daniel is visibly inebriated, he exclaimed that he, "...wants there to be riots."<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@averagelarsonian/video/7101648226318585130</ref>

In November of 2021, [[Goldberg Shacklestein]] was first mentioned by Daniel. Goldberg was actually [[Samantha]], one of Daniel's managers, incognito. According to Daniel, Shacklestein was the supposed leader of the New York mafia.

One video was posted around that same time in which Daniel, Jonas, and [[Gavin]] had a verbal altercation.{{Citation Needed}} This video was the first of many such posts. From late 2021 to early 2022, it became quite common for Daniel to interact with trolls posing as either Grace VanderWaal or Jojo Siwa. Oftentimes these trolls had such an influence on Daniel that he would fulfill requests on their behalf, even if the requests were degrading or incriminating.

==Homeless Era==
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The exact date of when Daniel became homeless is unknown, with the last known video of him confirmed to be in Jonas' house with a confirmed date being from December 6th, 2021.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFCMt7L5noE</ref> Daniel cut ties with Jonas for currently unknown reasons, meaning that Daniel had lost his last professional source of mental healthcare, which caused him to further succumb to the influences of his management and manipulators.

===Second Headset Arc===
2022 had a rough start for Daniel; he would record videos of him humping his camera for Grace and take out his anger on inanimate objects when he was upset. His behavior was so bad that his then-manager, [[Bianka]], quit for fear of mistreatment. Things only went downhill from there, as he posted videos of him crying in bathrooms, punching himself in the genitals, and ranting endlessly about Grace VanderWaal.

On May 13, Daniel went viral for the [[Porch Charging Incident]]. The conflict started when the owner of the property that Daniel was trespassing on asked him to leave, to which Daniel responded by calling the man racial slurs. Daniel's unhinged posting seemed to end when he ran the [[Denver Colfax Marathon 2022|Denver Colfax Marathon]]. He stopped posting anything of interest until June, in which his unhinged posting would begin yet again.

Daniel, after getting arrested for [[Criminal History#Criminal Mischief|criminal mischief]], got into a conflict with his case manager [[Andrew]], and as a result, would start to blame him for anything and everything that went wrong in Daniel's life. He began to have a large amount of micro-meltdowns over him where he, as usual, hit himself and said slurs, claiming that Andrew stole money, damaged his career, and leaked a photo of him masturbating completely nude in a public bathroom.

Daniel, after the end of the Andrew conflict, started showing up to [[Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest|protests]] which were ongoing, following the overturning of Roe v. Wade. On the 27th of June, he would attend an open mic where he told his life story, how he exposed himself on TikTok, his obsession with Grace VanderWaal, and that his grandmother died of cancer because of his autism. This incident would get his name out to many Roe v. Wade protestors and people online, resulting in him getting recognized by multiple people at [[Daniel Gets Mobbed|another Roe v. Wade reversal protest]].

[[Briiink]] would make his first appearance 2 days later on a livestream. Briiink would run into Daniel charging his phone, where he got an autograph and paid Daniel money. It was also around this time that [[Quacko]] started to manipulate Daniel.

The day after this, Daniel would re-enter his dispute with Andrew, as well as start to post about his impending court case for criminal mischief, where he begged for thousands of dollars for "court," not specifying why exactly he needed it. Andrew would generously handle this for Daniel and open a bank account for Daniel, and Daniel would repay him by claiming that Andrew stole "$3,000 a month that's coming into my name."

At the end of June, a ton of events would happen: Bob would re-enter the limelight after telling Daniel that he could not finance Daniel's music career, Daniel would get kicked out of a school for trespassing, made a new TikTok account, Daniel would premier his song "Something More," would expose the fact that r/Daniellarson2 made a [[Discord Fiasco|Discord]] where they manipulated him and Daniel would do a Q/A on [[r/Daniellarson 2]].

Daniel kicked off July with yet another meltdown, this time over Quacko telling him to delay his release of "Something More," which Daniel would release that day. He would then go around town getting banned from multiple restaurants and a hotel. He would then enter a feud with a TikTokker named [[Kanye556]] after Daniel defended his use of the n-word by saying it was okay because he said it with an "a" instead of an "er." He would then claim he entered a [[Daniel's Coma|coma]] after this due to heatstroke, continuing his schizo-posting after this with seemingly no issues at all.

===Return of the Headset===

After an interview with [[Monkeyman Interview|Monkeyman56783]], he decided to part ways with his case manager, Andrew. Contrary to expectations of a negative outcome, he surprisingly started a Twitch channel, generating enough income to afford a hotel, an Airbnb, and a $400 pair of [[Headset Era|headphones]]. During this period, he increased his interactions with [[Briiink]], who, despite knowledge about Daniel's controversial past, engaged in activities like buying meals, going [[Bowling Activities|bowling]], and visiting Hooters with him.

Subsequently, an incident known as the [[The Toothbrush Incident|Toothbrush Incident]] occurred, involving a leaked video of Daniel engaging in unconventional behavior. This led to the [[July 2022 Electronic Destruction Spree]], marked by the smashing of headsets and electronic devices. In a sequence of events, he replaced his items only to destroy them again, including a Spiderman-branded headset intended for children. On July 25th, Grace VanderWaal's mom, Tina VanderWaal, warned Daniel via Facebook Messenger to stop mentioning her daughter, expressing concern for her family's well-being, and later reiterated her plea publicly, urging him to stop involving them and seeking legal intervention if he persisted. Daniel would then respond with "I understand... I'm ending my life tonight."

Daniel, after a break in posting, would reveal his new manager and enabler, [[Ox]]. After firing him almost immediately, Ox, for an alleged change, would positively influence Daniel; he would get Daniel an ID, and made Daniel apologize for saying the N-word. He would then stop this string of good influence by convincing Daniel that there was a [[Nuclear Attack|nuclear attack]] on livestream for money, which would get Ox fired and reported to the police, and Daniel's Twitch account banned.
== Second Housing Arc ==
[[File:Dildodelivery.png|left|thumb|431x431px|Yes, someone ''actually'' delivered this to his house.]]
''Main Article: [[Second Housing Arc]]''

In July 2022, Daniel reached out for assistance from the Developmental Disabilities Resource Center, or the [[DDRC]], for housing. At this point, he had spent close to half a year being homeless, so Daniel was desperately in need of permanant housing. After several meetings with them, Daniel secured housing shortly thereafter.

By August 31, 2022, he had moved into a new home, marking the start of the Second Housing Arc. However, his stay at this housing unit did not last for long, as during the incident capturing his eviction suggested that Daniel had inadvertently disclosed his address, leading to unwanted deliveries and disruptions. Within days of moving in, he caused significant damage to the property and exhibited behavioral issues, notably instances where Daniel may have shared the address of his housing, which resulted in the house being pizza bombed by trolls. This also caused several deliveries being made to the house, most notably the delivery of a '''''glass dildo''','' among many other inappropriate items.

All of this would eventually result in his [[Miss P|eviction]] on October 16, where Daniel would cry, scream, and cause even more property damage before being taken out by the police, and receiving a subsequent citation. Reports from his housing provider indicated concerns for personal safety, raising questions about Daniel's behavior during his tenure.

== Travel Arc ==
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[[File:ScabiesWorldTour.png|thumb|336x336px|A map of Daniel's travels throughout the arc. ]]
''Main article: [[Travel Arc]]''

After the [[December 10th Incident]], an incident where Daniel assaulted his elderly mentor, [[Bob Proctor]], while screaming "The motel threatened to kill me!" The true backstory behind this incident is unknown, but due to this, Bob would send Daniel to Los Angeles, California. This was speculated to be because of 5150 laws in California, which allow adults who are experiencing a mental health crisis to be held in psychiatric hospitalization for up to 72 hours.

In California, Daniel would visit a strip club and go to Disneyland, despite being a [[Daniel Larson's Finances|penniless]] vagrant. Most notably, Daniel would contract [[scabies]] during this time. While it is not entirely clear where he caught it from, it is very likely that this came from him sleeping outside and in porta potties. After this, Daniel would go to [[Travel Arc/Las Vegas|Las Vegas, Nevada]] after taking a bus from Palmdale, California.
== Cameo Arc ==
[[File:Cameo Review.png|left|thumb|251x251px|A dissatisfied review on Daniel's cameo account. ]]''Main article: [[Cameo Arc]]''

The Travel Arc would finally end as Daniel left New York, returning to Denver on May 20. On May 25, the infamous [[Häagen-Dazs Incident|Haagen-Dazs Incident]] would occur, where Daniel would be kicked out of said ice cream shop following an altercation with employees.

On May 31, Daniel created a Cameo account, initially charging $30 for custom videos. Over the following month, he adjusted the prices, at times reaching over $1000 per video. Daniel eventually realized the need for lower prices to boost accessibility and increase sales, settling on $10 per video. However, the prices continued to fluctuate, occasionally going back up to $100. Despite the high prices, Daniel consistently failed to fulfill requests made by paying customers, sometimes outright ignoring them while thanking them for their money. This led to a decline in his review score, ultimately resulting in his ban from Cameo on August 16.

== Dog Arc ==
''Main article: [[Dog Arc]]''
[[File:WeenMusicPic.png|thumb|281x281px|A photo of Zola after being rescued. ]]
On July 9, 2023, Daniel adopted a German Shepherd mix named Zola from the Longmont Humane Society in [[wikipedia:Longmont,_Colorado|Longmont, Colorado]], which he renamed Music. He intended her to act as a "guard dog." Given that Daniel's history of violence towards others (and himself), many showed immediate concern. This concern soon turned to rage as footage surfaced of Daniel depriving Zola of water, combined with Daniel contemplating giving the animal nachos.

It was revealed that the Longmont Humane Society had not conducted a proper background check on Daniel, leading to them being horrified as his online history came to light.<ref>[[Longmont Humane Society Employee AMA]]</ref> Despite calls to return Music to the shelter and worries about her well-being, Daniel continued posting videos with her. Efforts intensified, leading the Longmont Humane Society to take steps to remove Music from Daniel's care, as well as [[List of places that have banned Daniel|permanently banning him from the premises]]. A collective community effort successfully located Daniel and Music, which culminated in WeenWeenMusic, a member of [[Ceel Team 6]], a rescue party led by former YouTuber [[Goated Mines]], rescuing Music and returning her to the Longmont Humane Society on July 11.

The situation escalated dramatically after Music was taken from Daniel. Daniel reacted intensely, going into a Walmart, [[The 7/11 Incident|voicing his anger by destroying several stands of merchandise]]. After being released from police custody, Daniel's made videos and live streams where he claimed to have contacted emergency services, alluding to creating bombs. Actions such as these would ultimately lead to his admission into a [[Psychiatric Hospital|mental health facility]] for the next week. After a period of psychiatric evaluation and treatment, Daniel was released from the mental health ward on July 19.

== College Arc ==
[[File:Danielarrestfolsom.png|thumb|342x342px|Looks like Daniel Better Call Saul!]]
''Main article: [[College Arc]]''

On September 10th, 2023, Daniel began to announce his plans to enroll in college on his YouTube community tab, specifically stating that he would be attending CU Boulder. Subsequent community posts and a livestream followed, where Daniel discussed his enrollment process and shared details about his intended major and minor subjects. The context behind this decision involved Daniel's interactions with members of Phi Kappa Tau, a fraternity of CU Boulder students, who convinced him that he was a student. Videos of Daniel at a frat party, including ones where he promoted the fraternity, were posted on his TikTok and YouTube channel.

However, his time at the college would be short lived, as Daniel was [[Folsom Field Arrest|arrested for third-degree assault]] against a security guard on September 16, 2023. But, in a complete failure of the American justice system, he was somehow released from jail just two days later. The bodycam footage was released on September 21, 2023. Daniel was subsequently arrested again on October 3, for failing to appear in court.

On November 30, Daniel would go back to court and be sentenced to 12-month probation, 48 hours of community service, be fined, and be subject to anger management classes.

== Reverse Mohawk Arc ==
[[File:Reverse mohawk.png|left|thumb|229x229px|The face of a madman! ]]
''Main Article: [[Reverse Mohawk]]''

''Further Reading: [[Timeline (2023, fourth quarter)]],'' ''[[Timeline (2024, first quarter)]]''

On October 23, 2023, [[trolls]] would give Daniel a "haircut." These trolls partially cut Daniel's hair down the middle, which was immediately dubbed as the, "Reverse Mohawk." The trolls abandoned him before finishing the haircut, claiming their car had been stolen. This left Daniel looking more unstable than ever, with the unfortunate coincidence of him having a court date the following week. Unsurprisingly, Daniel did not fix his hair, and on October 31, Daniel would attend court, only to be met with six-month probation and a mandatory mental health evaluation.

18 days later, still donning the reverse mohawk, Daniel would have a meltdown inside of a [[Panera Bread Incident|Panera Bread]] on November 10, due to "fans leaking his location." This led to him aggressively punch himself, exclaim threats of self-harm, [[Self Defense Word|racial slurs]], and psychotic screams, right before going to into fits of hysterical crying. Daniel also attempted to assault a Panera Bread employee, which led to law enforcement eventually being called. This incident resulted in Daniel getting [[List of places that have banned Daniel|banned]] from all Panera Bread locations.

== UCLA Arc ==
''Main Article: [[UCLA Arc]]''

Throughout January of 2024, Daniel would start attending UCLA, another college. Unbeknownst to Daniel, this was a clever scheme thought up by his manager, [[Clark]], where he was taught several false things, from "Ancient Texas" to the empress of China, Mai Coo Chee Itch. Throughout this arc, Daniel was supposed to be attending probation meetings, and even more, he had several warrants out for his arrest. Instead of tending to these very important things, he prioritized these ridiculously fake college classes.

==Jail Arc ==
[[File:Feb2024MugShot.jpeg|thumb|One of Daniel's many mugshots]]
''Main article: [[Jail Arc]]''

Going into 2024, Daniel would continue his escapades, completely unaware that this would be the year that he would be [[Jail (Disambiguation)|arrested over 5 times]], eventually resulting in him [[Second Jail Arc|being at risk of being imprisoned for over 65 years]].

After getting [[January 5th Incident|chased around by trolls]], Daniel would be [[Denver International Airport Arrest|arrested at an airport]] on January 9th for his multiple active warrants before being released on a PR bond. The terms of his PR bond required him to progressively pay off his bond and show up to all of his court hearings. He would do neither, favoring buying expensive meals he could not pay for, attending [[UCLA Arc|fake college classes]], and narrowly evading justice on a multitude of occasions.

He had the police called on him multiple times, such as when Daniel, once again, was [[Fart Spray Incident|chased around]] by [[trolls]], as well as when he got [[January 26 Hospital Incident|kicked out of a hospital]] (which he threatened a mass shooting against post-ejection), although he would not be arrested.

Daniel was arrested once more on February 3, 2024. This was on the charge of him being a fugitive of justice, which were due to the consequences of not fulfilling his PR bond. His bond was set at $20,000, which was later lowered to $5,000 with a $500 cash option. He was released on March 1, 2024, to which he stayed in numerous hotels. Even so, Daniel was [[March 19th Arrest|arrested less than 3 weeks later]] for the '''same charge''', this time in Jefferson County. His bond was set at $1,000. Following a court hearing, he was released on March 22, 2024, only staying in jail for a meager day and a half. Ten days later, he was, '''again''', [[April 2nd Arrest|arrested for the ''same charge'']] in Lone Tree while on the bus back to Denver. He spent the night in jail, and was released the next day.

Four days after his release, he had a [[April 6th Meltdown|massive meltdown]] where he, in a fit of rage, made many terroristic threats toward Bob, as well as other federal agencies including a secret service agent. This would not serve him in the long run.

==Second Jail Arc==
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[[File:DanielMugshot4.png|thumb|Just look at that deadpan stare.]]
''Main Article: [[Second Jail Arc]]''

On April 30, 2024, Daniel would be arrested due to the many threats he had made towards businesses, family members, and most notably, [[Daniel MacDougall|government entities and agencies]]. Daniel would be charged with 7 counts of threats, each of these being federal charges. Given the severity of the charges, he may be put in prison for a long time, possibly several decades. During this time, Daniel's manager, [[Clark]], would admit to lying about who he was, and everything he had done up to this point. Even more, Bob was found to have been in contact with Daniel once more.

Daniel would be ordered to have a mental health evaluation multiple times, as the judge believed he was not competent to stand trial. On May 31, Daniel was transferred to the Englewood Federal Correction Institution. On July 19, a psychiatric report was filed. In this report, it is revealed that Daniel would be being institutionalized in an unknown mental health facility after being found incompetent for trial, as well as an attempt for further evaluation.

Daniel was transferred out of Englewood on December 10, 2024. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1hc1xqm/daniel_transferred_to_oklahoma/</ref>

Seeing as Daniel is at risk of being in prison for several decades, many have seen this as the official ending of the Daniel Larson saga.

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== Parents ==

=== Elisabeth cumquat ===
[[File:DanielandElisabeth.png|thumb|Elisabeth and Daniel.|258x258px]]
''Main article: [[Elisabeth Shimer|Elisabeth cumquat]]''

[[Elisabeth Shimer|'''Elisabeth Shimer''']] (Born November 4, 1976 - October 2024) was the mother of Daniel, Joyetta, and Olivia Larson. Growing up, Daniel claimed to have suffered abuse and neglect at the hands of his mother, which eventually got him taken away by the state of Colorado. However, it is worth noting that Daniel may have been the perpetrator of the abuse himself, as he, at one point, [[11/6/17 Arrest|was arrested for striking his mother]] who at that point was wheelchair-bound.

His mother's Facebook account is filled with covers of various songs, most notably one where Elisabeth is heard singing a cover of [[I Won't Give Up Cover|“I Won’t Give Up”]] By Jason Mraz over pictures of a young Daniel. Elisabeth was eventually diagnosed with lupus, which ended up putting her in a wheelchair. Due to her disability, and Travis no longer being there to support her, Elisabeth had a harder and harder time taking care of Daniel. This neglect eventually led up to the State of Colorado removing Daniel from Elisabeth's care, putting him in the [[Tennyson Center]].

Despite Daniel's claims of abuse, Elisabeth has come forward about the multiple times Daniel would physically abuse both her and his grandmother. During one of these instances, it resulted in Daniel having to enter police custody following a call to the authorities after an attack on his mother. Just like all of his other relatives, Elisabeth, despite saying that she loved him in a comment on Papa Guts channel, wanted no contact with him given his actions.

Elisabeth passed away in October 2024 aged 46 due to unknown causes.
=== Travis Larson ===
[[File:TravisLarson1.png|thumb|300x300px|Lookin' spiffy, Travis!]]''Main article: [[Travis Larson]]''

[[Travis Larson|'''Travis Larson''']] (Born September 1978) is the father of Daniel Larson and Aurora Larson. Not much is known about him, except for the fact that he wasn't present for a majority of Daniel's life. It is likely he was not the greatest father to Daniel, as he dubbed him a "lost cause" before eventually splitting with Elisabeth. According to an Interview conducted by LarsonLeak, he is aware of Daniel's TikTok popularity, [[pedophilia]], and his homelessness. Having a new family, Travis desires absolutely no contact with Daniel.
== Siblings ==

=== Joyetta and Olivia Larson ===
[[File:JoyettaOlivia.png|thumb|185x185px|Joyetta and Olivia, just before their death|left]]
'''Joyetta and Olivia Larson''' (Born March 27, 2001 – March 27th, 2001) are the two, and only, biological siblings of Daniel Larson. They were conceived by both Travis and Elisabeth. Joyetta and Olivia were twin sisters, and would tragically die the following day after their birth due to RH incompatibility.

Elisabeth seems to hold more love for them than Daniel, as she made a video singing a cover of the song “Angels” for them”,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12j9rom/this_video_was_sad_as_shit_like_she_lost_her/</ref> and given the fact she would constantly post about them on her Facebook account.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02f5rM4VQdpCduLhhZDd9EtA55CPwwowtFnNEZPBCjNXyx5ySBk9Wy7vQBZiwdgHGPl</ref>
{{Quote|I wish Heaven had a phone so I could hear your voice again. I thought of you today, but that is nothing new, I thought about you yesterday, and days before that too. I think of you in silence, I often speak your name. All I have are memories and a picture in a frame. Your memory is a keepsake, from which I'll never part. God has you in his arms, I have you in my heart. Repost if you have someone in Heaven.}}
[[File:AuroraLarsonMugshot.png|thumb|178x178px|Aurora's mugshot, date unknown.]]
=== Aurora Larson ===
[[File:QuartzHillQueen.jpg|left|thumb|273x273px|Ain't she a beauty?]]
'''Aurora Larson''' (Born {{circa}} 2003-2004) is Daniel's paternal half-sister. Little is known about her or her relationship to Daniel, and it is most likely that she is the child of Travis and his new wife/partner. It can be assumed that she too has no contact to Daniel at all. It is also called in question if she even knows about him at all.

According to a news article posted by Antelope Valley Press, she attended Antelope Valley College, pursuing a degree in art.<ref>https://www.avpress.com/valley_life/quartz-hill-community-queens-crowned/collection_45ad9d98-2f1d-11ed-9caf-2b440038e814.html</ref> The one other thing that is known about Aurora, at least according to [[Larsonleak|LarsonLeak]], is that Aurora had been allegedly arrested for elder abuse, [[December 10th Incident|not much unlike her brother]].

== Grandparents ==

=== Nancy Shimer ===
''Main article: [[Nancy Shimer]]''
[[File:Nancy shimer3.png|thumb|Nancy, as pictured in the Tennyson Center video.|272x272px]]
[[Nancy Shimer|'''Nancy Shimer''']] (Born April 2, 1947 – July 24, 2019) is the grandmother of Daniel, and adoptive mother of Elisabeth Shimer, making Daniel’s biological grandparents unknown.

During his childhood, Daniel was the happiest living with his grandmother, as she genuinely loved and cared for Daniel, especially after being placed in the [[Tennyson Center]] after being allegedly neglected by his mother. This was also in part due to Nancy enabling Daniel's negative behaviors. In his childhood, an event occurred where a 3-year-old Daniel painted on Nancy's walls, and instead of facing repercussions, Nancy rewarded him with candy.

However, much like Elisabeth, Daniel was said to have hit his grandmother on multiple occasions. Even when Nancy was diagnosed with cancer, Daniel continued to beat her. When she eventually died, Daniel opted to go to the Special Olympics instead of watching her on her deathbed. Daniel never attended his grandmothers funeral.

=== Daniel William Shimer ===
{{Quote||quote=Goodbye, Dan. You were a good and loving father who encouraged achievement in your children and generously supported their education. You can be proud of their character and of the contributions they are making to our world.|author=Nancy, on his obituary.}}[[File:DanielShimerPhoto.png|thumb|Photo of Daniel, on his obituary. ]]
'''Daniel William Shimer''' (Born September 16, 1943 – September 24, 2015)<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/261378181/daniel_william_shimer</ref> is the ex-husband of Nancy Shimer, grandfather of Daniel, and father of Elisabeth, Sarah, and Rachel Shimer. According to his obituary, he was born in [[wikipedia:Merced,_California|Merced, California]], and was raised on a dairy farm near [[wikipedia:Chowchilla,_California|Chowchilla, California.]] He attended the University of Berkeley and received BSEE and MSEE degrees. He worked for the next 49 years as an electrical engineer.

He and Nancy married on November 28, 1970, although not much is known about their relationship beyond them giving birth to two biological children, Sarah and Rachel Shimer. It can be assumed that their relationship was less than optimal, as the couple divorced on September 1st, 2005.<ref>https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K1QG-71Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GVDZ-KV9</ref> There is also a record of them divorcing on January 30th, 1984, though it is unclear if they remarried or if this is simply an error.

Daniel died on September 24th, 2015, due to lung cancer. According to his obituary, he smoked heavily for many years, which may have contributed to his eventual death. There was no service for his death per his request, and his body was cremated. Despite being divorced for a decade by that point, Nancy Shimer would comment her condolences on his online obituary on October 3rd, 2015.

Considering how both Daniel's grandfather and him have the same name, is it likely that Elisabeth made the decision to name her son after him.<gallery caption="Gallery">
File:DanielShimer2.png|Daniel, pictured on the left.
File:DanielShimer3.png|Daniel, holding a cat.
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== Other relatives ==
[[File:TravisFamily.jpg|thumb|Travis’s family, post-Elisabeth]]

=== Other relatives (Larson Side) ===
After Travis and Elisabeth split up, Travis went on to start a family with an unknown woman. While the existence of Daniel’s paternal half-sister, Aurora, exists, it is unknown who the rest of the family are, Travis’s relationship with them, or if Daniel knows any of them.

=== Paige Larson ===
[[File:TravisWife2.png|left|thumb|234x234px|Isn't she a beauty?]]
'''Paige Larson''' is Travis' current wife and Daniel's step-mother. Travis is noted to have begun a relationship with a woman named Paige some years after leaving Daniel's mother. Nothing more is known about her besides several pictures of her that have surfaced, and the knowledge that her and Travis conceived Daniel’s half sister, Aurora Larson.

<gallery caption="Gallery">
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</gallery>[[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png|left|thumb|201x201px|Elisabeth and James.]]
=== James Avey ===
'''James Avey''' is the husband of Elisabeth Shimer, and step-father of Daniel. He and Elisabeth married on January 1st, 2011, a measly year after Elisabeth and Travis split up. He is also the founder of Avey incubator Inc, a company that incubates small animals such as puppies. According to photos found from his childhood, James attended Daniel's 13th birthday party, which indicates that they had some sort of relationship. Not much else is known. [[File:RachelShimerPic.png|thumb|228x228px|Rachel Shimer-Lal. ]]
=== Sarah and Rachel Shimer ===
'''Sarah Anne Shimer''' and '''Rachel Jane Shimer-Lal''' are the biological children of Daniel William Shimer and Nancy Shimer, and sisters of Elisabeth Shimer, making them Daniel's aunts.

Rachel is known to work as a pediatric occupational therapist in Danville, California, and is also employed at the New York Ensurance Company.<ref>https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-shimer-lal-36ab12254</ref> She attended Samuel Merrit University, and eventually got married, giving birth to Daniel's cousins, Anna and Leila Shimer-Lal.

Sarah's existence is shrouded in mystery. Their relationships with Elisabeth are also unknown.

=== Carol McGuire ===
[[File:CarolKiswineyPic.png|left|thumb|264x264px|A picture of Carol on her wedding day. ]]
'''Carol Ann McGuire''' (Née Kiswiney) is the older sister of Nancy Shimer, making her Daniel's great-aunt. In 1966, Carol married to a man named William Hamilton McGuire. Nancy acted as her bridesmaid, and her brother, David Kiswiney, acted as her husband's best man.<ref>https://www.newspapers.com/article/janesville-daily-gazette-marriage-of-kis/150752427/</ref>

Following Nancy's death, she left a comment on her sister's obituary.<ref name=":0">https://www.mountainviewcemetery.org/obituaries/NANCY-SHIMER?obId=6501996</ref>
{{Quote|The beautiful spirit of my dear sister will live on in her wonderful daughters and her dear grandchildren. She loved them all very, very much, as we all loved her.}}
=== David Kiswiney ===
[[File:DavidKiswineyPic.png|thumb|Photo of David, date unknown. |188x188px]]'''David Kiswiney''' is the older brother of Nancy Shimer, making him Daniel's great-uncle. He conceived his son, Noah Kiswiney, in 1990 with his spouse, Desiree Schwalbe.

When Nancy died, he left a comment on her obituary.<ref name=":0" /> It is worth noting that David never mentions Elisabeth, despite mentioning Nancy's biological children.
{{Quote|Dear Sarah and Rachael. Nancy will always bein my heart as she will be in yours. Nancy always held fast to her beliefs of honesty and integrity. Those qualities have been inherited by you and by your children. I miss you all. With Love, David}}
=== Noah Kiswiney ===
[[File:NoahKiswiney.png|left|thumb|219x219px|A photo of Noah. ]]
'''Noah Zane Kiswiney'''<ref>https://www.williamsonmemorial.com/obituaries/noah-kiswiney</ref> (Born November 20, 1990 — July 5, 2022) is the child of David Kiswiney, Nancy's Shimer's older brother, and Desiree Schwalbe. This makes him Daniel's 2nd cousin. According to his obituary, Noah was a very generous person. He was noted to have gathered a group of his friends to eat lunch with his middle school custodian so he would not eat alone, and helping a woman who had fallen.

Noah passed away on Tuesday, July 5th, 2022. His cause of death was voluntary. He volunteered as an organ donor, to which he passed away soon after.

=== Other Cousins ===
Daniel's aunt, Rachel Shimer, is known to have given birth to his younger cousins, '''Anna''' and '''Leila Shimer-Lal'''. Nothing more is known about them.

== References ==

Family

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== Parents ==

=== Elisabeth Shimer ===
[[File:DanielandElisabeth.png|thumb|Elisabeth and Daniel.|258x258px]]
''Main article: [[Elisabeth Shimer]]''

[[Elisabeth Shimer|'''Elisabeth Shimer''']] (Born November 4, 1976 - October 2024) was the mother of Daniel, Joyetta, and Olivia Larson. Growing up, Daniel claimed to have suffered abuse and neglect at the hands of his mother, which eventually got him taken away by the state of Colorado. However, it is worth noting that Daniel may have been the perpetrator of the abuse himself, as he, at one point, [[11/6/17 Arrest|was arrested for striking his mother]] who at that point was wheelchair-bound.

His mother's Facebook account is filled with covers of various songs, most notably one where Elisabeth is heard singing a cover of [[I Won't Give Up Cover|“I Won’t Give Up”]] By Jason Mraz over pictures of a young Daniel. Elisabeth was eventually diagnosed with lupus, which ended up putting her in a wheelchair. Due to her disability, and Travis no longer being there to support her, Elisabeth had a harder and harder time taking care of Daniel. This neglect eventually led up to the State of Colorado removing Daniel from Elisabeth's care, putting him in the [[Tennyson Center]].

Despite Daniel's claims of abuse, Elisabeth has come forward about the multiple times Daniel would physically abuse both her and his grandmother. During one of these instances, it resulted in Daniel having to enter police custody following a call to the authorities after an attack on his mother. Just like all of his other relatives, Elisabeth, despite saying that she loved him in a comment on Papa Guts channel, wanted no contact with him given his actions.

Elisabeth passed away in October 2024 aged 46 due to unknown causes.
=== Travis Larson ===
[[File:TravisLarson1.png|thumb|300x300px|Lookin' spiffy, Travis!]]''Main article: [[Travis Larson]]''

[[Travis Larson|'''Travis Larson''']] (Born September 1978) is the father of Daniel Larson and Aurora Larson. Not much is known about him, except for the fact that he wasn't present for a majority of Daniel's life. It is likely he was not the greatest father to Daniel, as he dubbed him a "lost cause" before eventually splitting with Elisabeth. According to an Interview conducted by LarsonLeak, he is aware of Daniel's TikTok popularity, [[pedophilia]], and his homelessness. Having a new family, Travis desires absolutely no contact with Daniel.
== Siblings ==

=== Joyetta and Olivia Larson ===
[[File:JoyettaOlivia.png|thumb|185x185px|Joyetta and Olivia, just before their death|left]]
'''Joyetta and Olivia Larson''' (Born March 27, 2001 – March 27th, 2001) are the two, and only, biological siblings of Daniel Larson. They were conceived by both Travis and Elisabeth. Joyetta and Olivia were twin sisters, and would tragically die the following day after their birth due to RH incompatibility.

Elisabeth seems to hold more love for them than Daniel, as she made a video singing a cover of the song “Angels” for them”,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12j9rom/this_video_was_sad_as_shit_like_she_lost_her/</ref> and given the fact she would constantly post about them on her Facebook account.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02f5rM4VQdpCduLhhZDd9EtA55CPwwowtFnNEZPBCjNXyx5ySBk9Wy7vQBZiwdgHGPl</ref>
{{Quote|I wish Heaven had a phone so I could hear your voice again. I thought of you today, but that is nothing new, I thought about you yesterday, and days before that too. I think of you in silence, I often speak your name. All I have are memories and a picture in a frame. Your memory is a keepsake, from which I'll never part. God has you in his arms, I have you in my heart. Repost if you have someone in Heaven.}}
[[File:AuroraLarsonMugshot.png|thumb|178x178px|Aurora's mugshot, date unknown.]]
=== Aurora Larson ===
[[File:QuartzHillQueen.jpg|left|thumb|273x273px|Ain't she a beauty?]]
'''Aurora Larson''' (Born {{circa}} 2003-2004) is Daniel's paternal half-sister. Little is known about her or her relationship to Daniel, and it is most likely that she is the child of Travis and his new wife/partner. It can be assumed that she too has no contact to Daniel at all. It is also called in question if she even knows about him at all.

According to a news article posted by Antelope Valley Press, she attended Antelope Valley College, pursuing a degree in art.<ref>https://www.avpress.com/valley_life/quartz-hill-community-queens-crowned/collection_45ad9d98-2f1d-11ed-9caf-2b440038e814.html</ref> The one other thing that is known about Aurora, at least according to [[Larsonleak|LarsonLeak]], is that Aurora had been allegedly arrested for elder abuse, [[December 10th Incident|not much unlike her brother]].

== Grandparents ==

=== Nancy Shimer ===
''Main article: [[Nancy Shimer]]''
[[File:Nancy shimer3.png|thumb|Nancy, as pictured in the Tennyson Center video.|272x272px]]
[[Nancy Shimer|'''Nancy Shimer''']] (Born April 2, 1947 – July 24, 2019) is the grandmother of Daniel, and adoptive mother of Elisabeth Shimer, making Daniel’s biological grandparents unknown.

During his childhood, Daniel was the happiest living with his grandmother, as she genuinely loved and cared for Daniel, especially after being placed in the [[Tennyson Center]] after being allegedly neglected by his mother. This was also in part due to Nancy enabling Daniel's negative behaviors. In his childhood, an event occurred where a 3-year-old Daniel painted on Nancy's walls, and instead of facing repercussions, Nancy rewarded him with candy.

However, much like Elisabeth, Daniel was said to have hit his grandmother on multiple occasions. Even when Nancy was diagnosed with cancer, Daniel continued to beat her. When she eventually died, Daniel opted to go to the Special Olympics instead of watching her on her deathbed. Daniel never attended his grandmothers funeral.

=== Daniel William Shimer ===
{{Quote||quote=Goodbye, Dan. You were a good and loving father who encouraged achievement in your children and generously supported their education. You can be proud of their character and of the contributions they are making to our world.|author=Nancy, on his obituary.}}[[File:DanielShimerPhoto.png|thumb|Photo of Daniel, on his obituary. ]]
'''Daniel William Shimer''' (Born September 16, 1943 – September 24, 2015)<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/261378181/daniel_william_shimer</ref> is the ex-husband of Nancy Shimer, grandfather of Daniel, and father of Elisabeth, Sarah, and Rachel Shimer. According to his obituary, he was born in [[wikipedia:Merced,_California|Merced, California]], and was raised on a dairy farm near [[wikipedia:Chowchilla,_California|Chowchilla, California.]] He attended the University of Berkeley and received BSEE and MSEE degrees. He worked for the next 49 years as an electrical engineer.

He and Nancy married on November 28, 1970, although not much is known about their relationship beyond them giving birth to two biological children, Sarah and Rachel Shimer. It can be assumed that their relationship was less than optimal, as the couple divorced on September 1st, 2005.<ref>https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K1QG-71Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GVDZ-KV9</ref> There is also a record of them divorcing on January 30th, 1984, though it is unclear if they remarried or if this is simply an error.

Daniel died on September 24th, 2015, due to lung cancer. According to his obituary, he smoked heavily for many years, which may have contributed to his eventual death. There was no service for his death per his request, and his body was cremated. Despite being divorced for a decade by that point, Nancy Shimer would comment her condolences on his online obituary on October 3rd, 2015.

Considering how both Daniel's grandfather and him have the same name, is it likely that Elisabeth made the decision to name her son after him.<gallery caption="Gallery">
File:DanielShimer2.png|Daniel, pictured on the left.
File:DanielShimer3.png|Daniel, holding a cat.
</gallery>

== Other relatives ==
[[File:TravisFamily.jpg|thumb|Travis’s family, post-Elisabeth]]

=== Other relatives (Larson Side) ===
After Travis and Elisabeth split up, Travis went on to start a family with an unknown woman. While the existence of Daniel’s paternal half-sister, Aurora, exists, it is unknown who the rest of the family are, Travis’s relationship with them, or if Daniel knows any of them.

=== Paige Larson ===
[[File:TravisWife2.png|left|thumb|234x234px|Isn't she a beauty?]]
'''Paige Larson''' is Travis' current wife and Daniel's step-mother. Travis is noted to have begun a relationship with a woman named Paige some years after leaving Daniel's mother. Nothing more is known about her besides several pictures of her that have surfaced, and the knowledge that her and Travis conceived Daniel’s half sister, Aurora Larson.

<gallery caption="Gallery">
File:TravisWife1.png
File:TravisWife3.png
File:TravisWife4.png
File:TravisLarsonProm.png
</gallery>[[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png|left|thumb|201x201px|Elisabeth and James.]]
=== James Avey ===
'''James Avey''' is the husband of Elisabeth Shimer, and step-father of Daniel. He and Elisabeth married on January 1st, 2011, a measly year after Elisabeth and Travis split up. He is also the founder of Avey incubator Inc, a company that incubates small animals such as puppies. According to photos found from his childhood, James attended Daniel's 13th birthday party, which indicates that they had some sort of relationship. Not much else is known. [[File:RachelShimerPic.png|thumb|228x228px|Rachel Shimer-Lal. ]]
=== Sarah and Rachel Shimer ===
'''Sarah Anne Shimer''' and '''Rachel Jane Shimer-Lal''' are the biological children of Daniel William Shimer and Nancy Shimer, and sisters of Elisabeth Shimer, making them Daniel's aunts.

Rachel is known to work as a pediatric occupational therapist in Danville, California, and is also employed at the New York Ensurance Company.<ref>https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-shimer-lal-36ab12254</ref> She attended Samuel Merrit University, and eventually got married, giving birth to Daniel's cousins, Anna and Leila Shimer-Lal.

Sarah's existence is shrouded in mystery. Their relationships with Elisabeth are also unknown.

=== Carol McGuire ===
[[File:CarolKiswineyPic.png|left|thumb|264x264px|A picture of Carol on her wedding day. ]]
'''Carol Ann McGuire''' (Née Kiswiney) is the older sister of Nancy Shimer, making her Daniel's great-aunt. In 1966, Carol married to a man named William Hamilton McGuire. Nancy acted as her bridesmaid, and her brother, David Kiswiney, acted as her husband's best man.<ref>https://www.newspapers.com/article/janesville-daily-gazette-marriage-of-kis/150752427/</ref>

Following Nancy's death, she left a comment on her sister's obituary.<ref name=":0">https://www.mountainviewcemetery.org/obituaries/NANCY-SHIMER?obId=6501996</ref>
{{Quote|The beautiful spirit of my dear sister will live on in her wonderful daughters and her dear grandchildren. She loved them all very, very much, as we all loved her.}}
=== David Kiswiney ===
[[File:DavidKiswineyPic.png|thumb|Photo of David, date unknown. |188x188px]]'''David Kiswiney''' is the older brother of Nancy Shimer, making him Daniel's great-uncle. He conceived his son, Noah Kiswiney, in 1990 with his spouse, Desiree Schwalbe.

When Nancy died, he left a comment on her obituary.<ref name=":0" /> It is worth noting that David never mentions Elisabeth, despite mentioning Nancy's biological children.
{{Quote|Dear Sarah and Rachael. Nancy will always bein my heart as she will be in yours. Nancy always held fast to her beliefs of honesty and integrity. Those qualities have been inherited by you and by your children. I miss you all. With Love, David}}
=== Noah Kiswiney ===
[[File:NoahKiswiney.png|left|thumb|219x219px|A photo of Noah. ]]
'''Noah Zane Kiswiney'''<ref>https://www.williamsonmemorial.com/obituaries/noah-kiswiney</ref> (Born November 20, 1990 — July 5, 2022) is the child of David Kiswiney, Nancy's Shimer's older brother, and Desiree Schwalbe. This makes him Daniel's 2nd cousin. According to his obituary, Noah was a very generous person. He was noted to have gathered a group of his friends to eat lunch with his middle school custodian so he would not eat alone, and helping a woman who had fallen.

Noah passed away on Tuesday, July 5th, 2022. His cause of death was voluntary. He volunteered as an organ donor, to which he passed away soon after.

=== Other Cousins ===
Daniel's aunt, Rachel Shimer, is known to have given birth to his younger cousins, '''Anna''' and '''Leila Shimer-Lal'''. Nothing more is known about them.

== References ==

Family

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{{Contact|They want NOTHING to do with him, and contacting them will not produce any useful information.|subject=any of Daniel's family members}}
[[Daniel Larson]] has many family members. None of his relatives are on speaking terms with Daniel and are leading generally normal lives without him, if not already dead.

Not much is known, even about his immediate family. The little information Daniel has revealed about his family cannot be taken at face value, however, this article will attempt to identify as many as possible.
== Parents ==

=== Elisabeth Shimer ===
[[File:DanielandElisabeth.png|thumb|Elisabeth and Daniel.|258x258px]]
''Main article: [[Elisabeth Shimer]]''

[[Elisabeth Shimer|'''Elisabeth Shimer''']] (Born November 4, 1976 - October 2024) was the mother of Daniel, Joyetta, and Olivia Larson. Growing up, Daniel claimed to have suffered abuse and neglect at the hands of his mother, which eventually got him taken away by the state of Colorado. However, it is worth noting that Daniel may have been the perpetrator of the abuse himself, as he, at one point, [[11/6/17 Arrest|was arrested for striking his mother]] who at that point was wheelchair-bound.

His mother's Facebook account is filled with covers of various songs, most notably one where Elisabeth is heard singing a cover of [[I Won't Give Up Cover|“I Won’t Give Up”]] By Jason Mraz over pictures of a young Daniel. Elisabeth was eventually diagnosed with lupus, which ended up putting her in a wheelchair. Due to her disability, and Travis no longer being there to support her, Elisabeth had a harder and harder time taking care of Daniel. This neglect eventually led up to the State of Colorado removing Daniel from Elisabeth's care, putting him in the [[Tennyson Center]].

Despite Daniel's claims of abuse, Elisabeth has come forward about the multiple times Daniel would physically abuse both her and his grandmother. During one of these instances, it resulted in Daniel having to enter police custody following a call to the authorities after an attack on his mother. Just like all of his other relatives, Elisabeth, despite saying that she loved him in a comment on Papa Guts channel, wanted no contact with him given his actions.

Elisabeth passed away in October 2024 aged 46 due to unknown causes.
=== Travis Larson ===
[[File:TravisLarson1.png|thumb|300x300px|Lookin' spiffy, Travis!]]''Main article: [[Travis Larson]]''

[[Travis Larson|'''Travis Larson''']] (Born September 1978) is the father of Daniel Larson and Aurora Larson. Not much is known about him, except for the fact that he wasn't present for a majority of Daniel's life. It is likely he was not the greatest father to Daniel, as he dubbed him a "lost cause" before eventually splitting with Elisabeth. According to an Interview conducted by LarsonLeak, he is aware of Daniel's TikTok popularity, [[pedophilia]], and his homelessness. Having a new family, Travis desires absolutely no contact with Daniel.
== Siblings ==

=== Joyetta and Olivia Larson ===
[[File:JoyettaOlivia.png|thumb|185x185px|Joyetta and Olivia, just before their death|left]]
'''Joyetta and Olivia Larson''' (Born March 27, 2001 – March 27th, 2001) are the two, and only, biological siblings of Daniel Larson. They were conceived by both Travis and Elisabeth. Joyetta and Olivia were twin sisters, and would tragically die the following day after their birth due to RH incompatibility.

Elisabeth seems to hold more love for them than Daniel, as she made a video singing a cover of the song “Angels” for them”,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12j9rom/this_video_was_sad_as_shit_like_she_lost_her/</ref> and given the fact she would constantly post about them on her Facebook account.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02f5rM4VQdpCduLhhZDd9EtA55CPwwowtFnNEZPBCjNXyx5ySBk9Wy7vQBZiwdgHGPl</ref>
{{Quote|I wish Heaven had a phone so I could hear your voice again. I thought of you today, but that is nothing new, I thought about you yesterday, and days before that too. I think of you in silence, I often speak your name. All I have are memories and a picture in a frame. Your memory is a keepsake, from which I'll never part. God has you in his arms, I have you in my heart. Repost if you have someone in Heaven.}}
[[File:AuroraLarsonMugshot.png|thumb|178x178px|Aurora's mugshot, date unknown.]]
=== Aurora Larson ===
[[File:QuartzHillQueen.jpg|left|thumb|273x273px|Ain't she a beauty?]]
'''Aurora Larson''' (Born {{circa}} 2003-2004) is Daniel's paternal half-sister. Little is known about her or her relationship to Daniel, and it is most likely that she is the child of Travis and his new wife/partner. It can be assumed that she too has no contact to Daniel at all. It is also called in question if she even knows about him at all.

According to a news article posted by Antelope Valley Press, she attended Antelope Valley College, pursuing a degree in art.<ref>https://www.avpress.com/valley_life/quartz-hill-community-queens-crowned/collection_45ad9d98-2f1d-11ed-9caf-2b440038e814.html</ref> The one other thing that is known about Aurora, at least according to [[Larsonleak|LarsonLeak]], is that Aurora had been allegedly arrested for elder abuse, [[December 10th Incident|not much unlike her brother]].

== Grandparents ==

=== Nancy Shimer ===
''Main article: [[Nancy Shimer]]''
[[File:Nancy shimer3.png|thumb|Nancy, as pictured in the Tennyson Center video.|272x272px]]
[[Nancy Shimer|'''Nancy Shimer''']] (Born April 2, 1947 – July 24, 2019) is the grandmother of Daniel, and adoptive mother of Elisabeth Shimer, making Daniel’s biological grandparents unknown.

During his childhood, Daniel was the happiest living with his grandmother, as she genuinely loved and cared for Daniel, especially after being placed in the [[Tennyson Center]] after being allegedly neglected by his mother. This was also in part due to Nancy enabling Daniel's negative behaviors. In his childhood, an event occurred where a 3-year-old Daniel painted on Nancy's walls, and instead of facing repercussions, Nancy rewarded him with candy.

However, much like Elisabeth, Daniel was said to have hit his grandmother on multiple occasions. Even when Nancy was diagnosed with cancer, Daniel continued to beat her. When she eventually died, Daniel opted to go to the Special Olympics instead of watching her on her deathbed. Daniel never attended his grandmothers funeral.

=== Daniel William Shimer ===
{{Quote||quote=Goodbye, Dan. You were a good and loving father who encouraged achievement in your children and generously supported their education. You can be proud of their character and of the contributions they are making to our world.|author=Nancy, on his obituary.}}[[File:DanielShimerPhoto.png|thumb|Photo of Daniel, on his obituary. ]]
'''Daniel William Shimer''' (Born September 16, 1943 – September 24, 2015)<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/261378181/daniel_william_shimer</ref> is the ex-husband of Nancy Shimer, grandfather of Daniel, and father of Elisabeth, Sarah, and Rachel Shimer. According to his obituary, he was born in [[wikipedia:Merced,_California|Merced, California]], and was raised on a dairy farm near [[wikipedia:Chowchilla,_California|Chowchilla, California.]] He attended the University of Berkeley and received BSEE and MSEE degrees. He worked for the next 49 years as an electrical engineer.

He and Nancy married on November 28, 1970, although not much is known about their relationship beyond them giving birth to two biological children, Sarah and Rachel Shimer. It can be assumed that their relationship was less than optimal, as the couple divorced on September 1st, 2005.<ref>https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K1QG-71Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GVDZ-KV9</ref> There is also a record of them divorcing on January 30th, 1984, though it is unclear if they remarried or if this is simply an error.

Daniel died on September 24th, 2015, due to lung cancer. According to his obituary, he smoked heavily for many years, which may have contributed to his eventual death. There was no service for his death per his request, and his body was cremated. Despite being divorced for a decade by that point, Nancy Shimer would comment her condolences on his online obituary on October 3rd, 2015.

Considering how both Daniel's grandfather and him have the same name, is it likely that Elisabeth made the decision to name her son after him.<gallery caption="Gallery">
File:DanielShimer2.png|Daniel, pictured on the left.
File:DanielShimer3.png|Daniel, holding a cat.
</gallery>

== Other relatives ==
[[File:TravisFamily.jpg|thumb|Travis’s family, post-Elisabeth]]

=== Other relatives (Larson Side) ===
After Travis and Elisabeth split up, Travis went on to start a family with an unknown woman. While the existence of Daniel’s paternal half-sister, Aurora, exists, it is unknown who the rest of the family are, Travis’s relationship with them, or if Daniel knows any of them.

=== Paige Larson ===
[[File:TravisWife2.png|left|thumb|234x234px|Isn't she a beauty?]]
'''Paige Larson''' is Travis' current wife and Daniel's step-mother. Travis is noted to have begun a relationship with a woman named Paige some years after leaving Daniel's mother. Nothing more is known about her besides several pictures of her that have surfaced, and the knowledge that her and Travis conceived Daniel’s half sister, Aurora Larson.

<gallery caption="Gallery">
File:TravisWife1.png
File:TravisWife3.png
File:TravisWife4.png
File:TravisLarsonProm.png
</gallery>[[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png|left|thumb|201x201px|Elisabeth and James.]]
=== James Avey ===
'''James Avey''' is the husband of Elisabeth Shimer, and step-father of Daniel. He and Elisabeth married on January 1st, 2011, a measly year after Elisabeth and Travis split up. He is also the founder of Avey incubator Inc, a company that incubates small animals such as puppies. According to photos found from his childhood, James attended Daniel's 13th birthday party, which indicates that they had some sort of relationship. Not much else is known. [[File:RachelShimerPic.png|thumb|228x228px|Rachel Shimer-Lal. ]]
=== Sarah and Rachel Shimer ===
'''Sarah Anne Shimer''' and '''Rachel Jane Shimer-Lal''' are the biological children of Daniel William Shimer and Nancy Shimer, and sisters of Elisabeth Shimer, making them Daniel's aunts.

Rachel is known to work as a pediatric occupational therapist in Danville, California, and is also employed at the New York Ensurance Company.<ref>https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-shimer-lal-36ab12254</ref> She attended Samuel Merrit University, and eventually got married, giving birth to Daniel's cousins, Anna and Leila Shimer-Lal.

Sarah's existence is shrouded in mystery. Their relationships with Elisabeth are also unknown.

=== Carol McGuire ===
[[File:CarolKiswineyPic.png|left|thumb|264x264px|A picture of Carol on her wedding day. ]]
'''Carol Ann McGuire''' (Née Kiswiney) is the older sister of Nancy Shimer, making her Daniel's great-aunt. In 1966, Carol married to a man named William Hamilton McGuire. Nancy acted as her bridesmaid, and her brother, David Kiswiney, acted as her husband's best man.<ref>https://www.newspapers.com/article/janesville-daily-gazette-marriage-of-kis/150752427/</ref>

Following Nancy's death, she left a comment on her sister's obituary.<ref name=":0">https://www.mountainviewcemetery.org/obituaries/NANCY-SHIMER?obId=6501996</ref>
{{Quote|The beautiful spirit of my dear sister will live on in her wonderful daughters and her dear grandchildren. She loved them all very, very much, as we all loved her.}}
=== David Kiswiney ===
[[File:DavidKiswineyPic.png|thumb|Photo of David, date unknown. |188x188px]]'''David Kiswiney''' is the older brother of Nancy Shimer, making him Daniel's great-uncle. He conceived his son, Noah Kiswiney, in 1990 with his spouse, Desiree Schwalbe.

When Nancy died, he left a comment on her obituary.<ref name=":0" /> It is worth noting that David never mentions Elisabeth, despite mentioning Nancy's biological children.
{{Quote|Dear Sarah and Rachael. Nancy will always bein my heart as she will be in yours. Nancy always held fast to her beliefs of honesty and integrity. Those qualities have been inherited by you and by your children. I miss you all. With Love, David}}
=== Noah Kiswiney ===
[[File:NoahKiswiney.png|left|thumb|219x219px|A photo of Noah. ]]
'''Noah Zane Kiswiney'''<ref>https://www.williamsonmemorial.com/obituaries/noah-kiswiney</ref> (Born November 20, 1990 — July 5, 2022) is the child of David Kiswiney, Nancy's Shimer's older brother, and Desiree Schwalbe. This makes him Daniel's 2nd cousin. According to his obituary, Noah was a very generous person. He was noted to have gathered a group of his friends to eat lunch with his middle school custodian so he would not eat alone, and helping a woman who had fallen.

Noah passed away on Tuesday, July 5th, 2022. His cause of death was voluntary. He volunteered as an organ donor, to which he passed away soon after.

=== Other Cousins ===
Daniel's aunt, Rachel Shimer, is known to have given birth to his younger cousins, '''Anna''' and '''Leila Shimer-Lal'''. Nothing more is known about them.

== References ==

Travis Larson

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<center>{{Doxxing}}{{Contact|He wants NOTHING to do with Daniel and contacting him will not produce any useful information.|subject=Travis Larson}}{{Needs Updating|Sources=[[Spiddlekick Interview]], [[Elisabeth Shimer]]}}
</center>'''James “Travis” Larson''' is the mother father snd brother of [[Daniel Larson]], [[Family|Joyetta Larson, Olivia Larson, and Aurora Larson]], ex-lover of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], ex-son-in-law of [[Nancy Shimer]], and the husband of [[Family|Paige Larson]].

Not much is known about Travis' involvement in Daniel's life, making him the most unpopular out of his parents. However, based on the interview with him, it can be assumed that the relationship between the two deteriorated long before he was an adult. This can also be said for his relationship with Daniel's mother, Elisabeth, as well.

Just like Elisabeth, there are also extremely tenuous claims of Travis abusing Daniel, with Daniel even claiming that Travis made him smoke cigars at a young age.<ref>[[November 6th Arrest]]</ref> Though, like many of Daniel's other claims, this should be taken with a grain of salt due to him being an unreliable narrator. Suffice to say, Travis officially distanced himself from Daniel and his mother long ago, wishing to be left alone.

After leaving his first family, Travis started up another with a woman named Paige, giving birth to Daniel's half-sister, [[Family|Aurora Larson]].

As of 2025, Travis has no contact with Daniel and advises anyone who comes across him to call the police and report him.

== Biography ==
{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|Just like Daniel's mother, Travis is not confirmed to have physically abused Daniel, or mistreated him during his childhood. Their relationship is noted to have deteriorated before Daniel was even a teenager, and he is noted as not wanting to deal with Daniel due to his violent behavior. As stated many times before, confirmation on this matter is inconclusive, and it is more likely that Daniel was the abuser himself.}}
Travis Larson was born in September 1978 in Lancaster, California to parents James Ted Larson (April 22nd, 1930 – July 13th 2009) and Joan Beverly Lloyd (May 23rd, 1937 – April 30th, 2013), who got married on the 28th of September 1963, in Nevada.<ref>https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/find/person/p46un0r808nlunl2u4uu</ref><ref>https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GPSG-RJJ</ref> He currently lives in Lancaster, California, where Daniel was born.<ref>[[Rooftop Interview]]</ref> Just like [[Elisabeth Shimer|Elisabeth]], it is speculated that Travis suffers from some sort of mental and/or physical disability that passed onto Daniel. This can be assumed from Travis' appearance, in addition to his children, even the ones born after leaving Elisabeth, who have traits generally not seen in able-bodied individuals. However, until further information comes out, it will remain unknown what condition he suffers from.

It is rumored that both his mom and Travis were extremely abusive to Daniel, which eventually led to Daniel being [[Tennyson Center|taken away by social services]]. Daniel, at one time, even claimed that his father made him smoke cigars as punishment, and even more, beat him with belts for "15 years". Though, it is worth mentioning that these claims cannot be substantiated, and it should be noted that Travis left Daniel's life well before he was taken away by social services.<ref>[[November 6th Arrest]]</ref>[[File:TravisFamily.jpg|thumb|Travis, and his new family. Date unknown. ]]
In 2010, Travis left Elisabeth, not long after Daniel was taken away by social services. According to posts made on Elisabeth's Facebook account, it can be inferred that his reason for leaving Elisabeth had to do with him not being able to put up with Daniel's behavioral issues. Additionally, in a text message to Daniel, Travis states, "I am not your grandma. I will not lie to you or except bull crap. I tell you the way it is,"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15bj3re/i_dont_think_anyone_has_seen_these_texts/</ref> which reaffirms claims of Daniel's grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer|Nancy]], enabling his problematic behavior.

Due to this combination of Daniel's behavioral issues, and no longer being compatible with Elisabeth, Travis and her split sometime around the early parts of 2010, coinciding with him being rehoused into the [[Tennyson Center|Tennyson Center.]] Though, it appears they were never married, evidenced by a Facebook post Elisabeth made where she refers to him as a "boyfriend" opposed to a husband. Afterward, Travis started up a family with an unknown woman, to which he had at least one daughter, [[Family|Aurora Larson]], with his new partner Paige.

In April 2023, Daniel was asked during a QnA about his parents, including if they were drug users. Daniel claimed that Travis was a heavy cigarette smoker.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1299v75/daniel_larson_addressing_his_relationship_with/</ref>

== Relationships ==
[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png|thumb|Elisabeth's Facebook post regarding Travis. ]]
=== Elisabeth ===
Main article: [[Elisabeth Shimer]]

It is not unreasonable to say that Elisabeth and Travis's relationship was, to say the least, not the best. In a Facebook post, Elisabeth describes Travis as, "a person whom is so obsessed in sex that he can't even care about other people's feelings,". While the validity of this is questionable, this is somewhat substantiated by how many children Travis and Elisabeth had. Even given Joyetta and Olivia's deaths, it still calls in question how much intercourse they were having to a point where Elisabeth was pregnant with twins.

In the wake of Daniel's behavioral and mental health issues (and him being relocated to the Tennyson Center), Travis decided to cut his losses and leave the mother of his child, telling Elisabeth to stay away from Daniel, as in her words, he'd "never get better".

Given that both Elisabeth and Travis have remarried, it can be inferred that they've since moved on from each other.

=== Daniel ===
''Main Article: [[Daniel Larson]]''

Daniel and his fathers' relationship is strained, to say the least. In an interview conducted by LarsonLeak, his father says that he is aware of the allegations of [[pedophilia]] against him. Additionally, he states that Daniel has gotten in physical altercations with less than 10 care providers and people close to him. In a text sent to Daniel, Travis notes that he won't lie and enable Daniel's behavior like his grandmother had done in the past. Unlike Elisabeth, he insists on reporting Daniel to the police if people were to ever come in contact with him.

=== Nancy ===
''Main Article: [[Nancy Shimer]]''

It can be assumed that Travis and Nancy have a less than positive relationship. In the [[Spiddlekick Interview]], Daniel notes that Travis called his grandmother, "a bitch", due to her gaining custody of Daniel after he was removed from his mother's care. Though, outside of this, not much else is known.

==Interview==
In November 2022, [[larsonleak|LarsonLeak]], a YouTube channel dedicated to leaking information about Daniel, uploaded a video where he briefly interviews Travis, though he gets angry and hangs up on him, which is understandable.{{#evt:
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===Transcript===

Q: ''Hey, is this Travis?''

A: "Who the hell is this?" ''(in an angry / confused tone)''

'''''(Things got a little heated... so we caught him on another day.)'''''

Q: Do you know who Daniel Larson is?

A: "I'm not gonna reveal any information at this point."

Q: Are you aware of his [[Social Media Accounts|social media presence]]?

A: "Yes."

Q: Is he big? Like [[Delusions#Fame|celebrity level]]?

A: "In the thousands of followers."

Q: Do you know about him using the [[The N Word|N-Word]] online?

A: "Nothing racial, before this."

Q: What's exactly wrong with him?

A: "He has several [[Daniel Larson's health|mental disabilities]]."

Q: Which ones?

A: "I'm not gonna give any further information."

Q: You are aware of the rumors of him being a [[Pedophilia|pedo]], right?

A: "Correct".

Q: What do you have to say about them? Especially with all the evidence online?

A: "My advice is literally [[Daniel's Criminal History|call the cops and report him]]."

Q: There are videos of him [[Meltdowns|breaking things, etc.]] Has he gotten in any physical fights with caretakers or family members? If so... how many?

A: "Less than ten."

'''''(We asked him about how his life was in California. For some reason he didn't like that [[Glossary#K|creshtin]].)'''''

Travis ''(angry)'': "...cause I'm in fucking [[California]], you got the wrong number!"

Travis: "Bye."

== Gallery ==
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File:TravisLarsonProm.png|Travis and his new wife. Isn't she a beauty?
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==See Also==

* [[Elisabeth Shimer]]
* [[Nancy Shimer]]

== External Links ==
{{Before Era}}

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Family]]

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'''Elisabeth Lee Avey''' (née '''Shimer''', is this what u wanted aviv: [shy-mer]; November 4, 1976 – October 2024), name commonly mispelled as '''Elizabeth''', was the ex-lover of [[Travis Larson]], adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family#Daniel William Shimer|Daniel William Shimer]], and most notably, the mother of [[Daniel Larson]] and his late siblings, [[Family#Joyetta and Olivia Larson|Joyetta and Olivia Larson.]]

Daniel's father has remained a rather unpopular figure in the Daniel Larson community, but the same cannot be said for Elisabeth. She has remained consistently disliked, even by Daniel. Elisabeth had been accused of being highly neglectful and abusive towards her son, which is questionable, although somewhat substantiated due to the fact that Daniel was relocated to the [[Tennyson Center]] during his childhood. Despite this fact, Elisabeth had also accused her own son of abuse towards her, which is substantiated as Elisabeth was documented to have been [[November 6th Arrest|assaulted by Daniel]] when he was 18 years old. Despite these mutual accusations of abuse, Elisabeth’s behaviors seem to have rubbed off onto Daniel during his childhood, as [[Discography|much like her son]], she too had an interest in music.

Nonetheless, after [[Nancy Shimer|Nancy]]'s death, Elisabeth wished to keep absolutely no contact with Daniel, presumably having put a restraining order on him along with [[Travis Larson|Travis]]. This is most likely due to the physical assault she had endured, although the claim of this restraining order on him has yet to be confirmed.

Sometime in October 2024, Elisabeth passed away from undisclosed causes.
==Biography==
Elisabeth Lee Shimer was born on November 4th, 1976, in California. She is the adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family|Daniel William Shimer]]. Nancy was said to have adopted her through connections from her job as a social worker, as her job required relocating infants to care homes, with Elisabeth being one of these infants.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> Due to this, information on her biological family is unknown. While unconfirmed, Elisabeth herself most likely suffers from the same mental disabilities Daniel has, or is at least somewhat mentally challenged. These claims come from her appearance, which is generally not seen in able-bodied individuals, and disabilities such as autism having very high heritability rates. However, until further information comes out, it will remain unknown exactly what she suffers from.

Elisabeth was adopted by Nancy prior to her divorce with Daniel Shimer, her adoptive father. It is unknown what real to relationship she had with him or her adoptive sisters.

In 1990, Elisabeth enrolled in YPIA (Young Peoples Institute of Arts and Academics), where she graduated from in 1993.<ref name=":0">https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> From 1995 to 2004, Elisabeth enrolled in Antelope Valley College, graduating in Music and Performing Arts.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> Not long after enrolling in AVC, Elisabeth would meet [[Travis Larson]], who, not long after, would help conceive Daniel with, to which she'd give birth on November 15th, 1998.[[File:Daniel's Mother Greiving.png|thumb|500x500px|Daniel's mother grieving the deaths of Joyetta and Olivia.]]
Later on, on March 27th, 2001, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She'd soon give birth to Daniels only siblings, [[Family|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]]. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>

Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>

But not long after, she would have no custody over him, as [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] would be taken away by the state of Colorado and begin living in foster care, and eventually the [[Tennyson Center]]. While the reason stated for Daniel being taken away was due to neglect, it is unconfirmed as to what Elisabeth (or Travis) did to him.[[File:Elisabeth's Tweets.png|thumb|328x328px|Elisabeth, tweeting about her "music career"]]Daniel has stated that his mother “couldn’t take care of him anymore,”{{Citation Needed}} and given the fact that at this time Elisabeth was disabled and in a wheelchair, it is very likely that her disability impacted her ability and to care for him, resulting in neglect. Even so, it is hard to tell what is true about Elisabeth and what is not, due to Daniel constantly going back and forth on whether he was abused or not. This seems likely, though, as in 2010, Travis and Elisabeth had parted ways. According to one of Elisabeths facbeook posts, this occured after Travis told Elisabeth to stay away from Daniel, as he'd "never get better". With this absence, it most likely added an extra factor of difficulty to parenting Daniel.
With her new husband, James Avey, who she'd get engaged to on January 1st, 2011, she would co-own their business, [[Avey Incubator Inc]] in 2010, which sold animal incubators.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484311132578%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref>
[[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png|left|thumb|284x284px|Elisabeth, and James Avey. ]]
Something that is interesting to note about Elisabeth is her affinity for singing, which most likely influenced Daniel to pursue a career in singing. On her YouTube account, she would upload several videos of her singing, the most infamous being tributes to various people, namely Daniel. One of these videos was directed towards Daniel, where [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/Wd4lJI8KWas she sang "I Won't Give Up", which was posted on the 28th of September, 2014.]

On Elisabeth's Twitter account, she would frequently post about going to a music studio to work on her original songs, although these claims of having a music "career" and having "fans" are obviously untrue.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12isgoq/now_we_see_where_he_gets_his_musical_career_and/</ref>

Sometime after Daniel was adopted by Nancy, Elisabeth was soon given access to see him once more, though the exact date is unknown. She had also made a tribute video to Joyetta and Olivia, wherein she sang "Angels", sharing various pictures of them after birth. Elisabeth shows an intense love for both of these children, although by the time the video had been posted, it had been well over a decade after their births, presumably showing more love for them than Daniel.

Sometime in 2015, Elisabeth went into partial assisted living, where her health would deteriorate further, evidenced by her posting on Facebook about herself being in and out of the hospital on a daily basis.[See discussion page, '''do not cite''']

On February 8th, 2016, Elisabeth posted on Facebook that she is paralyzed from the breastbone down, causing her to be in a wheelchair permanently.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0JtMbBhGNdBew78Qi6SyKKBNiPPMESAGtkUhjbrYViPSBdQue765qeJWpVZFK8C5Bl</ref> This should be remembered, as her being in a wheelchair would not prove to be positive within the coming years.

[[File:ElisabethDeath.png|thumb|277x277px|Facebook posts from Donna]]

=== Death ===
Elisabeth died in October 2024 at the age of 46 due to unknown circumstances. The circumstances of her death are widely debated, with many attempting to contest that Daniel's mother had truly passed.

Elisabeth's death was initially made known by Daniel's biological aunt, Donna Mcelroy. It is widely believed that Donna is Elisabeth's sister from her biological family. This relationship is reinforced by past posts made by Donna which Elisabeth commented on. In a Facebook post made in August 2024, Donna made it known that she had not heard from Elisabeth in nearly two years, before posting in October of same year, announcing Elisabeths death and asking for further information regarding it.

As of 2025, it is still unknown what caused Elisabeths death. Additionally, the status of her husband is also unknown.

== Custody Battle for Daniel ==
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==Relationships==
[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png|thumb|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!|280x280px]]
===Travis===
''Main article: [[Travis Larson]]''

Like many other aspects about them, not much about their relationship with each other is known. But, according to Facebook posts, their relationship deteriorated around [[Timeline (2010s)|2010]], coming to a screeching halt after Travis called Daniel a lost cause, insisting he would never get better. The fact that [[Daniel Larson Wiki|this very wiki]] exists has (unfortunately) proven him correct.
[[File:Elisabeth Venting.png|left|thumb|211x211px|Elisabeth venting on Facebook.]]
After this, Elisabeth insisted that she did not need a man in her life, claiming Travis to be "..obsessed with sex" and not caring for others feelings. These posts kicked off a constant theme of not needing a man in her life. However, this did not last very long, following her engagement on January 1st, 2011.

After their breakup, Travis left her for another woman not long after Daniel was taken away. Following their breakup, Travis had at least one daughter with his new wife Paige, named Aurora Larson.

===Nancy===
''Main Article: [[Nancy Shimer]]''
[[File:ElisabethNancy.png|thumb|250x250px|Got anymore pixels?]]
Elisabeth's relationship with her adopted mother is most unknown. What is known is that through connections as a social worker, Elisabeth was adopted by Nancy. Though, it isn't known at what time or year she was adopted. In June 2022, in comments made under a video uploaded by [[Papa Gut]], she elaborated on her relationship with her Nancy, where she claimed that Nancy had not liked her moving away to Colorado in 2009, resulting in Nancy "spreading lies", said lies being unclear. {{Quote|This was all a lie ...she just didn't like me moving away so she spread lies. And yes she did pass away in 2018.I love my son but he does have many mental issues and can be very violent at times ...he beat me and my mother before she died and had beaten her for 10 years straight...after she got custody of him...yes he should have stayed there. My mom let him get away with everything and gave him everything that's why he is the way he is... I wouldn't put up with his behavior |author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Final_Comment.png</ref>}}What is important to know is that these claims about Nancy are most likely not true. Due to her disability, and Daniel (in Flexburgers words) "being an asshole", she was unequipped to care for him, especially given Travis's absence. Despite Nancy's [[Enablers|enabling]], It is most likely that Nancy called child protective services to get Daniel into a home where he could be properly cared for, which ended up being the [[Tennyson Center]].
===Daniel===
[[File:DanielandElisabeth.png|thumb|Danny boy, and his absolute smokeshow of a mother. Talk about getting the Genetic middle finger.|260x260px]]
''Main article: [[Daniel Larson]]''

Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins.

Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, saying that she had never abused him at all. However, in Facebook posts made in the early 2010's, Elisabeth would wax poetic about how much she loved Daniel. Even after Travis left her in 2010, Elisabeth still made an effort to try and get her back into her life, but eventually gave up on Daniel herself.

One of Elisabeths nicknames for Daniel was, "Danny Boy", which he'd grow to detest and hate being called. Daniel also alledges that Elisabeth hated being called "mom" or "mother", and demanded that Daniel call her "mommy", otherwise she'd get upset.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14kn6gg/surprising_revelations_about_daniels_mother/</ref> However, like many others things, it should be noted that Daniel is extremely delusional and his statements should not be taken at face value.

There are also extremely tenuous (and more importantly, '''unconfirmed''') claims of Elisabeth sexually assaulting Daniel when he was a young child, which may have kicked off his [[pedophilia]]. This claim comes from question Daniel asked on his [[Quora|Quora page]] "Has your mother ever given you a hand job as a kid?" as well as a testimony from a person ''claiming'' to be a caretaker of Daniel's who said he had a "history of child sexual abuse." However, this is probably unlikely, given Elisabeth becoming paralyzed, and [[11/6/17 Arrest|Daniel's history of beating his mother.]]

This would not serve her in the long run, as Daniel was claimed to have beaten his mom and his grandmother for "ten straight years", which painted ''him'' as the abuser. This got to a point where Daniel was even arrested, [[11/6/17 Arrest|having to serve 44-45 in prison for 3rd degree assault]] after he shoved his mother. In June of 2022, Elisabeth would leave comments on videos made by YouTuber [[Papa Gut]], detailing her experiance with Daniel while he was living with both her and his grandmother,

In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities that were beyond autism (such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them, and how Daniel even went to jail because of this physical violence.<ref>[[:File:ElisabethShimerPapaGut(1).png]]</ref>
{{Quote|I'm Danny's mom and yes we have moved here for the services. He doesn't just have autism he has severe bi polar and shizophrenic. He has beaten me and my mom... he has lied and has fantasies about so many things. He does not want to listen to authority...he is not famous but wants to beleive he is.he does what he wants and if you dont let him he gets violent..if you want more information contact me|Elisabeth, in Papa Guts comment section.<ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>|author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>}}
Suffice to say, she had absolutely no more love for Daniel and had grown to despise him, despite being the only (biological) family she has still left.
==Other Social Media Accounts==
[[File:Shakybby.jpg|thumb|Example of a troll pretending to be his mother|367x367px]]While there are various social media accounts that can be verifiably identified as Elisabeth, there are also several TikTok and social media accounts with her name, but none of them have been verified, as most are run by people using her photos to impersonate her. Most of them re-upload videos from her YouTube channel to try and add validity, but some have caught the communities attention by leaving comments on Daniel's videos. But what is important to note is that '''none of these accounts are real''', as most of them have been created very recently and have no information to prove that they are the real, authentic Elisabeth.

When seeing an account claiming to be Elisabeth or any of Daniel's other family members, take it with a grain of salt, as it is mostly likely run by [[trolls]] or impersonators.

== Gallery ==
<gallery>
File:DannyElisabeth.png|Elisabeth and Danny boy.
File:DannyElisabeth2.png|Notice their lack of eyebrows.
File:Elisabeth1.png|Now it's clear where Daniel gets it from.
File:Elisabeth2.png|Her real parents have got to be siblings.
File:Elisabeth3.png|Mrs. Larson in the modern day.
File:Elisabeth4.png|Look at that double chin.
</gallery>

== See Also ==

* [[Family]]
* [[Travis Larson]]
* [[Nancy Shimer]]

== External Links ==
{{Before Era}}

==References==
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[[Category:Family]]

Talk:Elisabeth Shimer

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The citation for her partial assisted living will contain her address. Do not add it, it is unethical.

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{{Quote|I am a [[Music Career|singer, song writer]]. I am a Christan and Believe that God put me here for a Good reason. I show my love for him through my music..|author=Elisabeth's Facebook bio.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/p/Elisabeth-Shimer-100061085711239/</ref>}}
{{Quote|My son is my heart....I would sacrifice everything for him that is in my life..........I LOVE YOU MY BIG BOY...................||author=Elisabeth, about a young [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]]. That did not age well.}}
{{Infobox|image=ElisabethShimer.jpeg|imageDesc=Notice her distinct lack of eyebrows.|name=Elisabeth Shimer|Knownas=Lisa|Alignment=Daniel Larson’s mother|DOB=November 4, 1976 - October 2024|Nationality=American|Race=White|Parents= [[Nancy Shimer]] (1947–2019) [[Family#Daniel William Shimer|Daniel William Shimer]] (1943–2015)|Arcs=[[Before Era]]}}
'''Elisabeth Lee Avey''' (née '''Shimer''', pronounced: [shy-mer]; November 4, 1976 – October 2024), name commonly mispelled as '''Elizabeth''', was the ex-lover of [[Travis Larson]], adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family#Daniel William Shimer|Daniel William Shimer]], and most notably, the mother of [[Daniel Larson]] and his late siblings, [[Family#Joyetta and Olivia Larson|Joyetta and Olivia Larson.]]

Daniel's father has remained a rather unpopular figure in the Daniel Larson community, but the same cannot be said for Elisabeth. She has remained consistently disliked, even by Daniel. Elisabeth had been accused of being highly neglectful and abusive towards her son, which is questionable, although somewhat substantiated due to the fact that Daniel was relocated to the [[Tennyson Center]] during his childhood. Despite this fact, Elisabeth had also accused her own son of abuse towards her, which is substantiated as Elisabeth was documented to have been [[November 6th Arrest|assaulted by Daniel]] when he was 18 years old. Despite these mutual accusations of abuse, Elisabeth’s behaviors seem to have rubbed off onto Daniel during his childhood, as [[Discography|much like her son]], she too had an interest in music.

Nonetheless, after [[Nancy Shimer|Nancy]]'s death, Elisabeth wished to keep absolutely no contact with Daniel, presumably having put a restraining order on him along with [[Travis Larson|Travis]]. This is most likely due to the physical assault she had endured, although the claim of this restraining order on him has yet to be confirmed.

Sometime in October 2024, Elisabeth passed away from undisclosed causes.
==Biography==
Elisabeth Lee Shimer was born on November 4th, 1976, in California. She is the adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family|Daniel William Shimer]]. Nancy was said to have adopted her through connections from her job as a social worker, as her job required relocating infants to care homes, with Elisabeth being one of these infants.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> Due to this, information on her biological family is unknown. While unconfirmed, Elisabeth herself most likely suffers from the same mental disabilities Daniel has, or is at least somewhat mentally challenged. These claims come from her appearance, which is generally not seen in able-bodied individuals, and disabilities such as autism having very high heritability rates. However, until further information comes out, it will remain unknown exactly what she suffers from.

Elisabeth was adopted by Nancy prior to her divorce with Daniel Shimer, her adoptive father. It is unknown what real to relationship she had with him or her adoptive sisters.

In 1990, Elisabeth enrolled in YPIA (Young Peoples Institute of Arts and Academics), where she graduated from in 1993.<ref name=":0">https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> From 1995 to 2004, Elisabeth enrolled in Antelope Valley College, graduating in Music and Performing Arts.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> Not long after enrolling in AVC, Elisabeth would meet [[Travis Larson]], who, not long after, would help conceive Daniel with, to which she'd give birth on November 15th, 1998.[[File:Daniel's Mother Greiving.png|thumb|500x500px|Daniel's mother grieving the deaths of Joyetta and Olivia.]]
Later on, on March 27th, 2001, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She'd soon give birth to Daniels only siblings, [[Family|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]]. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>

Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>

But not long after, she would have no custody over him, as [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] would be taken away by the state of Colorado and begin living in foster care, and eventually the [[Tennyson Center]]. While the reason stated for Daniel being taken away was due to neglect, it is unconfirmed as to what Elisabeth (or Travis) did to him.[[File:Elisabeth's Tweets.png|thumb|328x328px|Elisabeth, tweeting about her "music career"]]Daniel has stated that his mother “couldn’t take care of him anymore,”{{Citation Needed}} and given the fact that at this time Elisabeth was disabled and in a wheelchair, it is very likely that her disability impacted her ability and to care for him, resulting in neglect. Even so, it is hard to tell what is true about Elisabeth and what is not, due to Daniel constantly going back and forth on whether he was abused or not. This seems likely, though, as in 2010, Travis and Elisabeth had parted ways. According to one of Elisabeths facbeook posts, this occured after Travis told Elisabeth to stay away from Daniel, as he'd "never get better". With this absence, it most likely added an extra factor of difficulty to parenting Daniel.
With her new husband, James Avey, who she'd get engaged to on January 1st, 2011, she would co-own their business, [[Avey Incubator Inc]] in 2010, which sold animal incubators.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484311132578%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref>
[[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png|left|thumb|284x284px|Elisabeth, and James Avey. ]]
Something that is interesting to note about Elisabeth is her affinity for singing, which most likely influenced Daniel to pursue a career in singing. On her YouTube account, she would upload several videos of her singing, the most infamous being tributes to various people, namely Daniel. One of these videos was directed towards Daniel, where [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/Wd4lJI8KWas she sang "I Won't Give Up", which was posted on the 28th of September, 2014.]

On Elisabeth's Twitter account, she would frequently post about going to a music studio to work on her original songs, although these claims of having a music "career" and having "fans" are obviously untrue.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12isgoq/now_we_see_where_he_gets_his_musical_career_and/</ref>

Sometime after Daniel was adopted by Nancy, Elisabeth was soon given access to see him once more, though the exact date is unknown. She had also made a tribute video to Joyetta and Olivia, wherein she sang "Angels", sharing various pictures of them after birth. Elisabeth shows an intense love for both of these children, although by the time the video had been posted, it had been well over a decade after their births, presumably showing more love for them than Daniel.

Sometime in 2015, Elisabeth went into partial assisted living, where her health would deteriorate further, evidenced by her posting on Facebook about herself being in and out of the hospital on a daily basis.[See discussion page, '''do not cite''']

On February 8th, 2016, Elisabeth posted on Facebook that she is paralyzed from the breastbone down, causing her to be in a wheelchair permanently.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0JtMbBhGNdBew78Qi6SyKKBNiPPMESAGtkUhjbrYViPSBdQue765qeJWpVZFK8C5Bl</ref> This should be remembered, as her being in a wheelchair would not prove to be positive within the coming years.

[[File:ElisabethDeath.png|thumb|277x277px|Facebook posts from Donna]]

=== Death ===
Elisabeth died in October 2024 at the age of 46 due to unknown circumstances. The circumstances of her death are widely debated, with many attempting to contest that Daniel's mother had truly passed.

Elisabeth's death was initially made known by Daniel's biological aunt, Donna Mcelroy. It is widely believed that Donna is Elisabeth's sister from her biological family. This relationship is reinforced by past posts made by Donna which Elisabeth commented on. In a Facebook post made in August 2024, Donna made it known that she had not heard from Elisabeth in nearly two years, before posting in October of same year, announcing Elisabeths death and asking for further information regarding it.

As of 2025, it is still unknown what caused Elisabeths death. Additionally, the status of her husband is also unknown.

== Custody Battle for Daniel ==
{{Stub}}

==Relationships==
[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png|thumb|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!|280x280px]]
===Travis===
''Main article: [[Travis Larson]]''

Like many other aspects about them, not much about their relationship with each other is known. But, according to Facebook posts, their relationship deteriorated around [[Timeline (2010s)|2010]], coming to a screeching halt after Travis called Daniel a lost cause, insisting he would never get better. The fact that [[Daniel Larson Wiki|this very wiki]] exists has (unfortunately) proven him correct.
[[File:Elisabeth Venting.png|left|thumb|211x211px|Elisabeth venting on Facebook.]]
After this, Elisabeth insisted that she did not need a man in her life, claiming Travis to be "..obsessed with sex" and not caring for others feelings. These posts kicked off a constant theme of not needing a man in her life. However, this did not last very long, following her engagement on January 1st, 2011.

After their breakup, Travis left her for another woman not long after Daniel was taken away. Following their breakup, Travis had at least one daughter with his new wife Paige, named Aurora Larson.

===Nancy===
''Main Article: [[Nancy Shimer]]''
[[File:ElisabethNancy.png|thumb|250x250px|Got anymore pixels?]]
Elisabeth's relationship with her adopted mother is most unknown. What is known is that through connections as a social worker, Elisabeth was adopted by Nancy. Though, it isn't known at what time or year she was adopted. In June 2022, in comments made under a video uploaded by [[Papa Gut]], she elaborated on her relationship with her Nancy, where she claimed that Nancy had not liked her moving away to Colorado in 2009, resulting in Nancy "spreading lies", said lies being unclear. {{Quote|This was all a lie ...she just didn't like me moving away so she spread lies. And yes she did pass away in 2018.I love my son but he does have many mental issues and can be very violent at times ...he beat me and my mother before she died and had beaten her for 10 years straight...after she got custody of him...yes he should have stayed there. My mom let him get away with everything and gave him everything that's why he is the way he is... I wouldn't put up with his behavior |author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Final_Comment.png</ref>}}What is important to know is that these claims about Nancy are most likely not true. Due to her disability, and Daniel (in Flexburgers words) "being an asshole", she was unequipped to care for him, especially given Travis's absence. Despite Nancy's [[Enablers|enabling]], It is most likely that Nancy called child protective services to get Daniel into a home where he could be properly cared for, which ended up being the [[Tennyson Center]].
===Daniel===
[[File:DanielandElisabeth.png|thumb|Danny boy, and his absolute smokeshow of a mother. Talk about getting the Genetic middle finger.|260x260px]]
''Main article: [[Daniel Larson]]''

Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins.

Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, saying that she had never abused him at all. However, in Facebook posts made in the early 2010's, Elisabeth would wax poetic about how much she loved Daniel. Even after Travis left her in 2010, Elisabeth still made an effort to try and get her back into her life, but eventually gave up on Daniel herself.

One of Elisabeths nicknames for Daniel was, "Danny Boy", which he'd grow to detest and hate being called. Daniel also alledges that Elisabeth hated being called "mom" or "mother", and demanded that Daniel call her "mommy", otherwise she'd get upset.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14kn6gg/surprising_revelations_about_daniels_mother/</ref> However, like many others things, it should be noted that Daniel is extremely delusional and his statements should not be taken at face value.

There are also extremely tenuous (and more importantly, '''unconfirmed''') claims of Elisabeth sexually assaulting Daniel when he was a young child, which may have kicked off his [[pedophilia]]. This claim comes from question Daniel asked on his [[Quora|Quora page]] "Has your mother ever given you a hand job as a kid?" as well as a testimony from a person ''claiming'' to be a caretaker of Daniel's who said he had a "history of child sexual abuse." However, this is probably unlikely, given Elisabeth becoming paralyzed, and [[11/6/17 Arrest|Daniel's history of beating his mother.]]

This would not serve her in the long run, as Daniel was claimed to have beaten his mom and his grandmother for "ten straight years", which painted ''him'' as the abuser. This got to a point where Daniel was even arrested, [[11/6/17 Arrest|having to serve 44-45 in prison for 3rd degree assault]] after he shoved his mother. In June of 2022, Elisabeth would leave comments on videos made by YouTuber [[Papa Gut]], detailing her experiance with Daniel while he was living with both her and his grandmother,

In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities that were beyond autism (such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them, and how Daniel even went to jail because of this physical violence.<ref>[[:File:ElisabethShimerPapaGut(1).png]]</ref>
{{Quote|I'm Danny's mom and yes we have moved here for the services. He doesn't just have autism he has severe bi polar and shizophrenic. He has beaten me and my mom... he has lied and has fantasies about so many things. He does not want to listen to authority...he is not famous but wants to beleive he is.he does what he wants and if you dont let him he gets violent..if you want more information contact me|Elisabeth, in Papa Guts comment section.<ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>|author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>}}
Suffice to say, she had absolutely no more love for Daniel and had grown to despise him, despite being the only (biological) family she has still left.
==Other Social Media Accounts==
[[File:Shakybby.jpg|thumb|Example of a troll pretending to be his mother|367x367px]]While there are various social media accounts that can be verifiably identified as Elisabeth, there are also several TikTok and social media accounts with her name, but none of them have been verified, as most are run by people using her photos to impersonate her. Most of them re-upload videos from her YouTube channel to try and add validity, but some have caught the communities attention by leaving comments on Daniel's videos. But what is important to note is that '''none of these accounts are real''', as most of them have been created very recently and have no information to prove that they are the real, authentic Elisabeth.

When seeing an account claiming to be Elisabeth or any of Daniel's other family members, take it with a grain of salt, as it is mostly likely run by [[trolls]] or impersonators.

== Gallery ==
<gallery>
File:DannyElisabeth.png|Elisabeth and Danny boy.
File:DannyElisabeth2.png|Notice their lack of eyebrows.
File:Elisabeth1.png|Now it's clear where Daniel gets it from.
File:Elisabeth2.png|Her real parents have got to be siblings.
File:Elisabeth3.png|Mrs. Larson in the modern day.
File:Elisabeth4.png|Look at that double chin.
</gallery>

== See Also ==

* [[Family]]
* [[Travis Larson]]
* [[Nancy Shimer]]

== External Links ==
{{Before Era}}

==References==
<references />
[[Category:Family]]

May 6th Incident

2025-03-07T16:44:44Z

Trestletrouble:

{{CW}}{{More Citations Needed}}

== Background ==
{{Quote|When he was making all of those videos with the headset on talking about me, I was on the phone with him. He had no clue that flexburger was me the whole time, pretty funny stuff.||author=Flexburger describing him trolling Daniel during the [[Headset Era]].}}
Shortly before the May 6th Incident took place, Daniel announced on a TikTok post that he would start acting in [[Adult Content|adult films]]. After this announcement, he posted a picture of his penis on his YouTube community page. Daniel’s [[Management]] at the time, [[Flexburger]], had convinced him to "audition" for an adult film via TikTok live. When this happened, it came to be called The May 6th incident.

In 2023, in a Reddit AMA on the anniversary of May 6, Flexburger revealed that he was posing as a different person "Josh". During this era, the "Josh" character would tell Daniel that "Flexburger" was the one hacking him, but of course, Flexburger was behind both personas.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/flexburger_ama_may_6th_2023/jj3mlna/</ref>

During the incident, Daniel would begin a TikTok live stream, pulling down while raising his shirt and exposing his penis. At this time, Daniel had 89,200+ TikTok followers and 3.7 million likes on @daniellarsonfans. The live stream had ended in the middle of him exposing himself, due to Daniel being banned mid-way through.

== Video ==

== Daniels Response ==

== See Also ==
== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2021]]

May 6th Incident

2025-03-07T16:44:26Z

Trestletrouble:

{{CW}}{{More Citations Needed}}

== Background ==
{{Quote|When he was making all of those videos with the headset on talking about me, I was on the phone with him. He had no clue that flexburger was me the whole time, pretty funny stuff.||author=Flexburger describing him trolling Daniel during the [[Headset Era]].}}
Shortly before the May 6th Incident took place, Daniel announced on a TikTok post that he would start acting in [[Adult Content|adult films]]. After this announcement, he posted a picture of his penis on his YouTube community page. Daniel’s [[Management]] at the time, [[Flexburger]], had convinced him to "audition" for an adult film via TikTok live. When this happened, it came to be called The May 6th incident.

In 2023, in a Reddit AMA on the anniversary of May 6, Flexburger revealed that he was posing as a different person "Josh". During this era, the "Josh" character would tell Daniel that "Flexburger" was the one hacking him, but of course, Flexburger was behind both personas.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/flexburger_ama_may_6th_2023/jj3mlna/</ref>

During the incident, Daniel would begin a TikTok live stream, pulling down while raising his shirt and exposing his penis. At this time, Daniel had 89,200+ TikTok followers and 3.7 million likes on @daniellarsonfans. The live stream had ended in the middle of him exposing himself, due to Daniel being banned mid-way through.

== Video ==

== Daniels Response ==

== See Also ==
{{Classic Era}}

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2021]]

May 6th Incident

2025-03-07T16:44:13Z

Trestletrouble:

{{CW}}{{More Citations Needed}}

== Background ==
{{Quote|When he was making all of those videos with the headset on talking about me, I was on the phone with him. He had no clue that flexburger was me the whole time, pretty funny stuff.||author=Flexburger describing him trolling Daniel during the [[Headset Era]].}}
Shortly before the May 6th Incident took place, Daniel announced on a TikTok post that he would start acting in [[Adult Content|adult films]]. After this announcement, he posted a picture of his penis on his YouTube community page. Daniel’s [[Management]] at the time, [[Flexburger]], had convinced him to "audition" for an adult film via TikTok live. When this happened, it came to be called The May 6th incident.

In 2023, in a Reddit AMA on the anniversary of May 6, Flexburger revealed that he was posing as a different person "Josh". During this era, the "Josh" character would tell Daniel that "Flexburger" was the one hacking him, but of course, Flexburger was behind both personas.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/flexburger_ama_may_6th_2023/jj3mlna/</ref>

During the incident, Daniel would begin a TikTok live stream, pulling down while raising his shirt and exposing his penis. At this time, Daniel had 89,200+ TikTok followers and 3.7 million likes on @daniellarsonfans. The live stream had ended in the middle of him exposing himself, due to Daniel being banned mid-way through.

== Video ==

== Daniels Response ==
After being asked about it on a TikTok live with 2 others Daniel agrees to explain his side of the incident. Daniel explains that he was tricked into thinking it was an audition for an adult film. Management had told him this would be the secret to achieving stardom.
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== See Also ==
{{Classic Era}}

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2021]]

May 6th Incident

2025-03-07T16:44:03Z

Trestletrouble:

{{CW}}{{More Citations Needed}}

== Background ==
{{Quote|When he was making all of those videos with the headset on talking about me, I was on the phone with him. He had no clue that flexburger was me the whole time, pretty funny stuff.||author=Flexburger describing him trolling Daniel during the [[Headset Era]].}}
Shortly before the May 6th Incident took place, Daniel announced on a TikTok post that he would start acting in [[Adult Content|adult films]]. After this announcement, he posted a picture of his penis on his YouTube community page. Daniel’s [[Management]] at the time, [[Flexburger]], had convinced him to "audition" for an adult film via TikTok live. When this happened, it came to be called The May 6th incident.

In 2023, in a Reddit AMA on the anniversary of May 6, Flexburger revealed that he was posing as a different person "Josh". During this era, the "Josh" character would tell Daniel that "Flexburger" was the one hacking him, but of course, Flexburger was behind both personas.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/flexburger_ama_may_6th_2023/jj3mlna/</ref>

During the incident, Daniel would begin a TikTok live stream, pulling down while raising his shirt and exposing his penis. At this time, Daniel had 89,200+ TikTok followers and 3.7 million likes on @daniellarsonfans. The live stream had ended in the middle of him exposing himself, due to Daniel being banned mid-way through.

== Video ==
<big>NSFW:</big> A capture can be found on [https://archive.org/details/the-may-6th-incident archive.org.] Viewer discretion is advised.

== Daniels Response ==
After being asked about it on a TikTok live with 2 others Daniel agrees to explain his side of the incident. Daniel explains that he was tricked into thinking it was an audition for an adult film. Management had told him this would be the secret to achieving stardom.
{{#evu:https://archive.org/details/may-6th-explanation
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|description=Dan tells his side of the story
(Video has been lost)
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== See Also ==
{{Classic Era}}

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2021]]

May 6th Incident

2025-03-07T16:43:42Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page May 6th to Penises part 2

[[File:D9F97C6D-7448-4BFB-8602-C7FE38903361.jpg|thumb|I sure hope he doesn't!]]{{CW}}{{More Citations Needed}}

It is referred to as one of, if not the most infamous incident in all of Daniel Larson history, remaining as one of the most iconic (and disturbing) Daniel Larson moments.

== Background ==
{{Quote|When he was making all of those videos with the headset on talking about me, I was on the phone with him. He had no clue that flexburger was me the whole time, pretty funny stuff.||author=Flexburger describing him trolling Daniel during the [[Headset Era]].}}
Shortly before the May 6th Incident took place, Daniel announced on a TikTok post that he would start acting in [[Adult Content|adult films]]. After this announcement, he posted a picture of his penis on his YouTube community page. Daniel’s [[Management]] at the time, [[Flexburger]], had convinced him to "audition" for an adult film via TikTok live. When this happened, it came to be called The May 6th incident.

In 2023, in a Reddit AMA on the anniversary of May 6, Flexburger revealed that he was posing as a different person "Josh". During this era, the "Josh" character would tell Daniel that "Flexburger" was the one hacking him, but of course, Flexburger was behind both personas.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/flexburger_ama_may_6th_2023/jj3mlna/</ref>

During the incident, Daniel would begin a TikTok live stream, pulling down while raising his shirt and exposing his penis. At this time, Daniel had 89,200+ TikTok followers and 3.7 million likes on @daniellarsonfans. The live stream had ended in the middle of him exposing himself, due to Daniel being banned mid-way through.

== Video ==
<big>NSFW:</big> A capture can be found on [https://archive.org/details/the-may-6th-incident archive.org.] Viewer discretion is advised.

== Daniels Response ==
After being asked about it on a TikTok live with 2 others Daniel agrees to explain his side of the incident. Daniel explains that he was tricked into thinking it was an audition for an adult film. Management had told him this would be the secret to achieving stardom.
{{#evu:https://archive.org/details/may-6th-explanation
|container=frame
|description=Dan tells his side of the story
(Video has been lost)
}}
== See Also ==
{{Classic Era}}

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Incidents]]
[[Category:Incidents in 2021]]

May 6th Incident

2025-03-07T16:43:14Z

Trestletrouble:

Incidents

2025-03-07T16:42:51Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page Incidents to Vague ass title lmao

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{{SpecialMessage|Message=Keep in mind that, while these are listed chronologically by year, they are not listed chronologically by month/day}}

An '''incident''' is an event or occurrence of something. In terms of Daniel Larson, an incident represents an event which Daniel does something notable, such as a [[Meltdowns|meltdown]].

== Most well-known incidents ==
These incidents are significant and well known.

=== 2021 ===
* [[May 6th]] - first major use of the term and was a turning point for Daniel's social media "career"
* [[Likee Meltdown]]

=== 2022 ===
* [[Porch Charging Incident]]
* [[December 10th Incident]]

=== 2023 ===
* [[Planet Fitness Bathroom Incident]]
* [[Bodega Incident]]
* [[Häagen-Dazs Incident]]
* [[August 31st Incident]]
* [[Panera Bread Incident]]
* [[Olive Garden Incident]]

=== '''2024''' ===

* [[April 6th Meltdown]]

== Extreme incidents ==
These incidents display an extreme amount of violence, sexuality, or criminality

=== 2021 ===

* [[May 6th]]
* [[Likee Meltdown]]

=== 2022 ===

* [[Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest]]
* [[The Toothbrush Incident]]
* [[Miss P|October 16th Incident]]
* [[December 10th Incident]]

=== 2023 ===

* [[Bodega Incident]]
* [[July 3rd Community Tab Incident]]
* '''May 2023 flexburger leaks'''
** [[Pencil incident]]
** [[The Bottle Incident]]
** [[The Shower Incident]]
* [[Big Dick Muscle Man Incident]]
* [[August 28th Incident]]
* [[August 29th Meltdown]]
* [[August 31st Incident]]

* [[Häagen-Dazs Incident]]
* [[Panera Bread Incident]]
* [[Christmas Day Meltdown]]

=== 2024 ===

* [[April 6th Incident]]

== Public incidents ==
These incidents happened in public buildings, particularly businesses

=== 2023 ===

* [[May 17th Incident]]
* [[The Golden Hotel Incident]]
* [[Planet Fitness Bathroom Kickout]]
* [[Drone Incident]]
* [[IHOP Incident]]

* [[Colorado Mills Mall Incident]]
* [[Olive Garden Incident]]
* [[The Golden Hotel Incident]]

=== 2024 ===

* [[January 5th Incident]]

* [[March 23rd Meltdown]]
* [[April 6th Incident]]

== Other incidents ==
The term is commonly used for any non-public or not very notable/extreme incidents

=== 2022 ===

* [[Porch Charging Incident]]
* [[Sleepy Joe|Sleepy Joe Incident]]

=== 2023 ===

* [[Machete Incident]]
* [[The Anti-Semetic Incident]]
* [[Justin Bieber Incident]]
* [[March 30th Incident]]
* [[July 24th Meltdown]]
* [[Fake Security Incident]]

=== 2024 ===

* [[Mountain dew incident]]
* [[Fart Spray Incident]]

== Today ==
Following [[Second Jail Arc|his arrest and subsequent imprisonment on serious legal charges]], Daniel is no longer out in public and able to to be provoked or manipulated by [[trolls]], [[management]] or other such people into causing an incident (like a meltdown or terroristic threat). As such, these current circumstances seem to spell the end of Daniel's story, and with it, the many incidents within Larstory.

Grace VanderWaal

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'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent and unhealthy obsession on her since he was around 17 years old. His obsession with Grace began when he saw her perform on ''America's Got Talent'' while watching the show with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]].

Ever since, Daniel has had an unhealthy obsession, despite Grace being [[Pedophilia|underage]] for the majority of it. Since his infatuation with her started, he has convinced himself that he is a part of her life. This perceived 'relationship' progressed rapidly over time, influenced by Daniel's own delusions, which were further reinforced by interactions with [[Management|managers]], [[trolls]], and those pretending to be Grace.

Over time, Daniel's posts regarding Grace on his [[Social Media Accounts|numerous social media accounts]] became increasingly explicit. In many of these posts, Daniel would talk in graphic detail about his sexual fantasies involving her, describing the various inappropriate acts that he would like to do with her. When engaging with trolls impersonating Grace, Daniel has consistently referenced images of her from her childhood.

Grace, and to a lesser extent, her family, were frequently impersonated by trolls, who used her identity to deceive Daniel and gain his trust. On multiple occasions, Daniel has engaged with these trolls in conversations involving disturbing and often inappropriate topics. Despite being misled by numerous individuals pretending to be Grace, he continues to fall for these deceptions.

On the April 17, 2024, Grace publicly acknowledged Daniel in a comment on her TikTok, ''@gracevanderpeepee,'' calling him a pedophile who has haunted her life.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6ut1b/the_real_grace_called_daniel_a_pdo/?sort=new</ref> Additionally, Grace has filtered out any mention of Daniel's name from her comment sections, providing additional weight to the notion that she is aware of him and detests him. Furthermore, messages attributed to her mother suggest that Grace and her family want no contact with him.

Despite being told off by Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently in the [[Second Jail Arc]], during a call in September 2024, Daniel mentions plans for a wedding with her, and believes that her father Dave actually supports him.

== Origins ==
Daniel has had an obsession with Grace Vanderwaal ever since Grace performed on America's Got Talent in 2016. He has stated that watching the show was a common pastime with his grandmother. While of questionable validity, his grandmother is documented to have said that Daniel may sing with Grace on stage one day. Since then, Daniel has believed that they were in a romantic relationship, despite him being 17, and [[Pedophilia|Grace being 12.]]

Daniel mentioned Grace a few times in 2020, in one instance in November, he claimed that he would be collaborating with Grace on a Zoom meeting, which he was likely told by management at the time.
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Starting on May 12, 2021, Daniel began claiming that he and Grace had a collaboration in progress that would be coming out soon. Later, he escalated these claims by stating on TikTok that he and Grace had started dating. Things escalated quickly from there. Daniel's fixation intensified as he began telling strangers on the street that he was in a relationship with her. More disturbingly, Daniel recorded multiple videos of himself moaning and whispering in a sensual manner for Grace's viewing pleasure, and even worse, recorded himself having an orgasm ('''NSFW!)''' <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/zcrw51/someone_sent_me_this/</ref> while whispering her name.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/13kpc3t/this_message_is_for_grace_uhhhhh_ohhhh_mmmmm_oh/</ref> In stark contrast to his lustful posts regarding Grace, Daniel has also posted hysterical videos about her 'breaking up' with him, calling her a bitch and various other expletives.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace]</ref> Although Daniel has issued multiple apologies for the sexually charged videos he made about Grace, he has continued this behavior. While malicious trolls have played a role in deceiving and reinforcing his belief that he was in a relationship with her, his actions have repeatedly demonstrated an intense and persistent obsession with her.[[File:DanielGrace.png|thumb| Daniel mogs Grace with his Greek God-esque Jawline.|left]]

Daniel, fully aware that Grace was under 18, made multiple posts claiming that he would, "...wait until Grace is 18." His claims about their relationship have shifted depending on his delusions at the time. When viewing it as romantic, Daniel refers to Grace as his girlfriend. When perceiving it as sexual, he has described explicit acts he wishes to engage in with her.

Daniel continues to insist that his obsession with Grace is not sexual, claiming instead that he simply "...wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref> However, everything Daniel says about Grace should be taken with a huge grain of salt as he has a tendency to internalize his delusions.

{{Quote|I just wanted a chance and I need help! I was never givin a chance and every single time I tried to contact you i get threatened. I really like your daughter for who she is and not for sexual reasons. The trolls want everyone to think it's for sexual reasons. I just wanted to stand out and have a chance with her! I know the competition she has. We are all human and we do sexual activities though. But that doesn't make me a pedophile if I have never even done anything and everyone uses me because I don't have protection. I'm sorry for everything being crazy}}<gallery>
File:Danieldenying2.png|Daniel denying his pedophilic attraction to Grace.
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</gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard and has frequently targeted her with his obsessive behavior, similar to other figures he has fixated on, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram were frequently inundated with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a direct conversation with her in real time. Daniel repeatedly mentioned and tagged her in his own TikTok videos, causing her notifications to be dominated by his messages. This behavior persisted across nearly all of his TikTok accounts, eventually leading to the suspension of one due to repeated harassment. Shortly after, Grace filtered out terms in her comments such as "Daniel Larson," "Mr. President," and "Danderson" from her TikTok comments to prevent further interaction. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>

As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace shows no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of individuals impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in egregious and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content like the ''Pencil Incident.''

Even during the [[Jail Arc]]'','' Daniel has mentioned Grace in phone conversations with Clark, seemingly believing that she might bail him out. While his Graceposting has eased up, it has never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's current head-canon is that he and Grace are periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. He still thinks about Grace while [[Second Jail Arc|incarcerated for federal crimes]].

Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to.
== Delusions ==
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=== The Likee Meltdown ===
''Main Article: [[Likee Meltdown]]''

During one of his delusional episodes, Daniel, seemingly without access to his phone, posted on Likee, a short video creating platform he used while banned from TikTok, in despair and asking his followers to retrieve information from the 'VanderWaal Team'.

Daniel appeared to believe that an unspecified accident had occurred and that the VanderWaal family, whom he was convinced had been in contact with him, was withholding information about Grace. Throughout the video, he hit his head and made threats against his own life. This incident was particularly notable as it marked the first time Daniel had a meltdown online.

Despite his claims, he did not act on his threats, and once the episode subsided, he returned to his usual behavior. Daniel said that if he did not get into contact with the VanderWaal family, he would end up homeless. Though relatively minor at the time, this episode foreshadowed more severe delusional behavior in the future.

Afterwards, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of Grace, and her father Dave. In this video, he expressed the belief that Grace had both committed suicide and suffered a heart attack simultaneously. Before Daniel addressed their deaths, he became emotional, crying and hysterically apologizing for sexting minors and sending pictures of his genitals to individuals he believed to be Grace. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref>

After this live-stream, Daniel posted to his TikTok admitting that Grace was one of the minors he had supposedly sexted. Daniel admitted, "I have sexted minors, 13 years old, well I'm gonna be honest, 12 years old".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fgywu/13_years_old_well_im_gonna_be_honest_12_years_old/</ref> The video ends with Daniel saying that he planned to move on by not doing things such as this anymore and putting in the work to become a better person for her, especially after Grace's 'death.'

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While it may have appeared that Daniel's belief in Grace’s supposed death prompted a moment of repentance, this was short-lived. Upon realizing that Grace was still alive, he quickly reverted to his usual obsessive behavior, once again posting about her regularly and continuing to sext with individuals he believed to be her.

=== [[Tyrone]] ===
[[File:GraceTyrone 1.png|thumb|"Tyrone just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder"]]
[[File:GraceTyrone 2.png|left|thumb|552x552px|Daniel, alluding to the hospital Grace was apparently staying at, was being shot up.]]
During the July 24th freak-out, Daniel became convinced that Grace was being attacked by an individual named "Tyrone," whom he described as an African-American man attempting to kill her. He claimed that Tyrone had "just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder." Following this, Daniel's community tab was filled with paranoid posts, as he simultaneously believed that Grace had died and that she was still alive in a hospital while Tyrone continued to pursue her.

At one point, he became convinced that Tyrone was attacking the hospital where Grace was supposedly being treated, escalating to what he described as a "standoff."<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15e3dul/this_is_actually_very_entertaining/</ref> These delusions were likely exacerbated by trolls who fueled his paranoia. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15exd9u/photos_of_tyrone_graces_attacker_have_been_leaked/</ref>

=== Daniel's (Failed) Trek from Colorado to New York ===
While in contact with Daniel, an account claiming to be Grace told him that she had recently been with another man. Fueled by delusions, rage, and his obsessive fixation on Grace, Daniel decided to hike from Colorado to New York in an attempt to "win her back," documenting his journey through TikTok videos recorded during the night.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14a8u2n/an_old_underrated_moment_imo_after_a_fake_grace/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14ab7s3/continuation_from_my_previous_post_daniel_keeps/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14adymh/the_not_so_thrilling_conclusion_to_daniels_big/</ref>

In these TikToks, Daniel claimed that he had, "...officially fucked up," with Grace to the point that she had broken up with him. In a rare moment of clarity, Daniel acknowledged that Grace was her own person and that she could date whoever she wanted. Daniel’s reason for going to New York was to win back Grace’s love from whomever she was apparently having sex with. He tried to guilt trip her in these videos by saying that he had a, "...[h]eart disease from heartbreak," and details about how hard his childhood was.

As the night progressed, Daniel remained awake, continuing his journey as the sun began to rise. During the walk, he made increasingly erratic statements and even broke into karaoke. Ultimately, the hike ended with Daniel returning to Denver, either due to exhaustion or after realizing that the "Grace" he had been communicating with was, in fact, a troll.
[[File:PregnantGrace.png|thumb|319x319px|Grace "pregnant" with Jacob's baby.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15t743z/jacob_sartorius_got_grace_pregnant/</ref>]]

=== The Grace and Jacob Sartorius Love Affair ===
''Main Article: [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Jacob_Sartorius#Delusions Jacob Sartorius#Delusions]''

[[July 24th Freak-out|On July 24th]], 2023, Daniel became convinced that Grace, whom he believed had been in a relationship with him until this point, had broken up with him as things were, "..moving too slow". Shortly after, he became fixated on the idea that she had started dating American social media personality and singer [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon believe that Jacob had impregnated Grace, and ordered her assassination by "[[Tyrone]]", all at the same time. Daniel's narrative regarding Jacob rapidly changed, at one point claiming that Jacob was harassing him, and later insisted that he was targeting Grace instead.

This eventually culminated into Daniel throwing his dinner into a river because of his anger at Grace dating Jacob instead of him.

== Contact ==
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]]
While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed.

=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
Daniel's obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him in December 2021. He directly confronted him, telling him to leave her and their family alone, and were considering putting a restraining order against him with the threat of building a criminal case. Daniel had an intense reaction to this confrontation, as he went to the hospital and at one point, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref>

=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] ===
Daniel's continued obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022.

Tina, through Instagram, firmly demanded that Daniel cease all contact with her family, especially her daughter, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Tina then claimed to be in contact with the police, and if he did not stop making videos and posts about Grace, she would pursue legal action and have him arrested.

In response, Daniel acknowledged her message but then stated that he planned to take his own life that night. However, he did not follow through with this threat. It is likely that he made the statement as an attempt to guilt-trip Tina or gain attention.

{{Quote|Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP}}

Despite this, Tina has not followed suit with her threats. According to a message exchange with a member of the Daniel Larson subreddit, Tina had reached out to the Denver police However, they were unable to intervene, as Daniel had not made any direct threats against Grace [[August 29th Meltdown|at the time]]. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>

Even so, this interaction with Grace's mother was a focal point of multiple videos and community posts for some time. Daniel posted multiple videos where he appeared emotional, often crying and/or apologizing to the VanderWaal family while repeatedly addressing the 'allegations' against him. However, his responses were inconsistent; at times, Daniel acknowledged his actions, while at other times, he dismissed the allegations as unfounded rumors.{{Citation Needed}}

Two weeks later, Tina left a comment on one of Daniel's live-streams, urging him to stop his obsessive posting.

{{Quote|God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP}}

Upon receiving this message, Daniel repeatedly responded to Tina, pressing her with questions, to which she replied:

{{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}}

Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, stating that things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and insisting he is misunderstood. He has not received a response. <gallery widths="150" heights="150">
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Months later, on March 26, 2023, an exasperated Tina left a comment on Daniel's YouTube short, titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." She denied this claim and warned Daniel that he was close to being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref>

{{Quote|Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us.

Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense.}}

Daniel responded 10 times, begging her for a second chance and crying. Tina ignored these messages. However, the next day, Tina posted on Daniel's community tab post, with a link to his Cash App. Tina warned his followers that they were participating in committing a crime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>

{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}

Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. As of 2024, this remains the last verifiable message Tina has sent to Daniel regarding Grace.

=== Grace Rape Troll ===
[[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]]
Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number belonging to someone who claimed to be Grace VanderWaal; the identity of the person behind this number remains unknown.

In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals. Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.

The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults'''''—seemingly desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.

Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>

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=== AI Prank ===
On June 16, 2023, Reddit user [[u/TMZ_news]] posted a video of Grace VanderWaal's Instagram account, editing the image to make her most recent post appear as a video addressing Daniel. <ref>https://archive.org/details/why-did-grace-just-post-this-on-instagram-14b-9wfr</ref> The video in question being made using AI.

In the video, 'Grace' urges Daniel to leave her and her family alone, reinforcing the fact that he had never been in contact with any of the members of the VanderWaal family. u/TMZ_news went on to post screenshots of alleged messages between him and Tina VanderWaal, in which Tina claimed the video was taken down due to Grace's "lawyer" advising them to do so, although these messages are '''''most likely fake'''''.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14bh8tr/the_vanderwaal_team_explained_graces_post_she/</ref>

Daniel addressed the video on the community section of his YouTube page, and his panicked reactions made it clear that he did not see the posts as fake, and had fallen for the elaborate prank. [citation needed]

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=== Messages with u/TMZ_News ===
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While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace responded by stating that she had never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to do so. She emphatically expressed her hatred for him and her desire for him to stop mentioning her name.
{{Quote|I know who he is, but I have never contacted him and don't have want anything to do with him. He's the worst thing that has ever happened to my career. Every time I search my name I see pictures of that dirty pedophile. My posts get spammed with comments about that freak Daniel. I hate him and I wish he would just stop talking about me.}}

They replied to Grace with condolences for both her and her family, offering to stop messaging Grace about Daniel.

{{Quote|No, it's okay I understand that you're just trying to help. It's nice having someone to talk to about the problem and I can tell that you're a nice guy.}}

This was the last message Grace sent before their exchange ended.

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There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he will not change. Due to his delusions, he will likely continue to believe that Grace loves him and that everyone else is lying. If this response is authentic, it would likely encourage Daniel to persist, as his efforts have made Grace aware of him.

However, there is a high chance that these messages are fake. This same user had previously faked posts from Grace's Instagram in order to trick Daniel, so any other media coming from U/TMZ_news should be approached with skepticism. Until more evidence comes out, it is safe to assume that the exchange pictured above is faked.

=== TikTok Comment (Official Acknowledgement) ===
On April 17, 2024, it was revealed that Grace is, in fact, aware of Daniel.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6vhdt/screen_recording_of_real_grace_account_calling/</ref> On a post of her TikTok account, a user commented,
{{Quote|Is laniel darson featured?}}

Grace had filtered out "Daniel Larson" from her comments on TikTok due to the harassment. She replied,

{{Quote|If ur trying to be a musician with [REDACTED BAND NAME] being a fan of a p*do that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success}}
[[File:CommunityGrace.png|frameless|595x595px|right|Daniel, in response to Grace's comment. ]]

The commenter later deleted his original comment after Grace had replied, taking issue with Grace mentioning his band. However, he provided a screen recording of the comment.

This finally confirms that Grace is indeed aware of Daniel, and clearly does not want anything to do with him, mentioning that he has haunted her. Given the amount of weens who have likely flooded Grace's comment section with mentions of Daniel, this is not very surprising. Daniel saw the comment and confirmed this on his Community Tab,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQD2h4-5DteNbgocGSjL7tw/community?lb=UgkxMQ2PXdR0vZry_MLEFxBs63rrcW3KX3Rk</ref> but he continues to harbor delusions, still thinking she loves him, when in reality she does not. In addition, it is possible Daniel even thought the comment was made by a troll.

However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''

== References ==

"Celebrity in the Hospital!"

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'''"Celebrity in the hospital"''' is a phrase used by [[Daniel Larson]] in 2021, the aforementioned celebrity being [[Grace VanderWaal]]. This is one of his most notable and strange ramblings, taking place on July 13, 2021. In December 2023, it was eventually revealed that Daniel had been told by trolls / management, more specifically [[Party House Records]], that Grace had died of a "stress-related heart attack", and that her final words to Daniel were that he needs to carry on her legacy, presumably by announcing her death.

Daniel ran around in public, screaming this phrase at random people at the request of [[Management|managers]]. He proceeded to go in restaurants, yelling the phrase before being subsequently kicked out, interrupting a soccer game, screaming in a bar, going up to a random man pumping gas, and announcing to his TikTok followers about the infamous celebrity in the hospital.

==Background==
It was clear from the start that Daniel was manipulated into doing this by trolls, as Grace was not only alive but also had never been in contact with Daniel anyway.

In December 2023, a video shown by [[LarsonLeak]] revealed previously unseen footage, in which Daniel appears to be talking to [[Management]] while on a video or Discord call. It seems that management is giving Daniel instructions on what to do in the video. This would also inadvertently reveal that the videos were not uploaded by Daniel himself, as he was on the video call during the ramblings. This explains the low quality of the videos and confirms that management at the time had access to his TikTok account(s).
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=== Man eating ===
It can be inferred that the trolls were instructing Daniel to go up to someone and spread the news of Grace's death, as Daniel is heard saying, "I could try this person." Daniel goes up to a random guy eating outside a Smashburger at Tavor Center in Denver. He tells him that Grace VanderWaal died as of 6:30, and walks away after the man gives him a confused look.

=== Cheesecake Factory ===
Daniel is talking to management again, saying "I don't even know what the hell that place is," referring to a Cheecake Factory restaurant with a clearly visible sign. Daniel walks into the restaurant, but is then presumably told by management to spread the message on the patio. In fact, Daniel can even be heard refusing orders from management, saying "No... You want to me act- I'm not gonna do that" and complying anyway. He then proceeds to once again spread the message, saying her record label wanted the message out.

=== Fan ===
Following this, Daniel was spotted by a fan, who asked him for a picture. Daniel proceeds to tell the fan that Grace passed away from a stress related stroke, then switches the reason to a heart attack and tells the fan "Allah Akbar".

=== Restaurant===
Daniel went running into a different restaurant, screaming aloud to the crowded restaurant about the celebrity in the hospital. An employee almost instantly kicked him out. Despite this, he ran back in and accused him of assault, and promptly left again, arguing the whole way out.{{#ev:youtube|r_sW2_qcAGI||center||frame}}

==== Transcript ====
Daniel: There is currently a celebrity in the hospital! We are asking that the message gets out!

''(employee quickly walks towards him)''

Employee: "...let's go."

Daniel: "That's very rude of you."

Employee: "And you're talking gibberish, let's go."

''(Daniel attempts to return to the restaurant and is physically blocked by the employee)''

Daniel: "That was assault, by the way"

Employee: "No, it wasn't."

Daniel: "Yeah it was, I have it all on film."

Employee: "Ok, film me."

Daniel: "No, I'm not going to because you tried to grab me"

Employee: "I did not try-"

Daniel: "Yeah, you did! Yeah, you did, it's all on film"

Employee: "Ok, bye."

Daniel: "It's all on film..." [''video abruptly ends'']

===Bar ===
Daniel walked up to the host and hostess of a bar and told them that a celebrity named [[Grace VanderWaal]] was in the hospital and died at 6:30 that night. He asked them to spread the message that Grace was dead. The host actually believed him and seemed surprised, but the hostess looked less convinced. He left shortly after and was not kicked out.{{#ev:youtube|UYHJQc4vAxk||center||frame}}

==== Transcript ====
''Daniel walks up to hostess table''

Daniel: "Hello, there is currently a celebrity of the name of Grace Vandewaal that just passed away as of 6:30 tonight, we're asking that the message get spread. Do you guys think you could spread the message through here?"

Employee: "Grace...?"

Daniel: "Grace VanderWaal."

Employee: "Isn't she from AGT?"

Daniel: "Yes"

Employee: "She died?"

Daniel: "She ''just'' died"

Employee: "Stop it." ''(shocked)''

Daniel: "Yeah. I'm currently- I was actually supposed to do a collaboration with her and she just passed away just as she died."

Employee: "Shut up."

Daniel: "Yeah-"

Employee: "This better be fake news."

Daniel: "It's not. It's actually- I'm gonna be honest it just happened so the news has not picked it up yet but they will be shortly."

===Soccer field===
Daniel ran into the middle of a public park's soccer field during a game. There, he told the players that there was a celebrity in the hospital. He was interrupted once, but ultimately was not kicked out and left on his own volition.{{#ev:youtube|6hXbyjrJJSQ||center||frame}}

==== Transcript ====
Daniel: "There is currently a celebrity in the hospital! We are asking that the information gets loose! Thank you everyone! Please spread the message! There is currently a celebrity-THERE IS CURRENTLY A CELEBRITY IN THE HOSPITAL! PLEASE SPREAD THE NEWS! There is currently a celebrity in the hospital! Please spread the news!"

''(Daniel runs off and screams / laughs)''

===Gas Station===
During his rampage, Daniel went up to a man pumping his gas at night and letting told him about the celebrity in the hospital. The man did not care and let Daniel know. Daniel, seemingly upset by the man's lack of empathy, expressed, "dang..," and whimpered.
 
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==== Transcript ====
''(Daniel walks up to a man pumping gas.)''

Daniel: "Excuse me. There is currently a celebrity in the hospital-"

Man: "I don't give a fuck. Back the fuck up before I [''unintelligible'']."

Daniel: "Dang..." ''(whimpers)''

== Other ramblings ==

===TikTok live===
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85aCH03q3T8

Daniel asked his family to pray for the VanderWaal family, saying that Grace was both in a car accident and jumped out of the window of a burning building.{{#ev:youtube|r_sW2_qcAGI||center||frame}}
==Sources==

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Discography

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''This article discusses music released by Daniel. For information on Daniel's music career as a whole, see [[Music Career]].''
[[File:DanSpotify.png|thumb|387x387px|Daniel's Spotify profile.]]

== Studio singles ==
These songs were recorded in a professional studio, paid for by none other than [[Bob Proctor|Bob]]. It goes without saying that Daniel did not write any of these songs himself, rather, they are clearly generic, prewritten and pre-produced songs which he just provided the vocals for. These songs utilize heavy autotuning and various vocal effects to conceal Daniel's lack of singing ability.

=== Roaring Thunder ===
''Main article: [[Roaring Thunder]]''

Daniel's first professionally recorded song. Released July 15, 2021, but seems to have been re-released with a different cover on September 25, 2021.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6YbSxu2_OI Listen on YouTube]

=== Something More ===
"Something More" is Daniel's second professional song, released June 30, 2022.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlN42Nx4zo Listen on YouTube]

=== Merry Go Round ===
Unlike the previous two songs, "Merry Go Round" was leaked before release. The first of these leaks would come from a [[r/Daniellarson]] post on November 17, 2022, leaking lyrics and ideas for them seen in a note.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yxvo14/exclusive_informationdaniel_larsons_new_song/</ref> Then, [[Murk]] leaked the song to the subreddit on February 10, 2023. Daniel threatened suicide to a fan who informed him of the leak.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12sjus9/daniel_reacts_to_merry_go_round_being_leaked/</ref>

The song would eventually release officially on June 29, 2023, and sounded different from the leaked version, suggesting it was unfinished when leaked. Then, as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]], two early versions leaked. The first, "Merry Go Round - Vocaltracks ready to mix.mp3", sounds identical to the version leaked by Murk. The second, "Merry Go Round - Mix 2.mp3", appears to be a slightly earlier version of the final mix.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_ggPrBsbA Listen on YouTube]

== Scrapped studio singles ==

=== Wild Hearts ===
Daniel recorded a cover of "Wild Hearts" by Keith Urban. Although it is rough and unmixed, the studio-quality vocals suggest that it was recorded in the same studio as the other songs.

It was originally leaked as part of [[The Flexburger Leaks]]. Then, the original file leaked as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]].

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRC6vYlY25E Listen on YouTube]

== Unofficial projects ==
These songs are released under Daniel's name, though they are considered 'unofficial' as they are clearly intended to troll or mock him. Consequently, the songs are intentionally bad.

[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGApp2P41CBh2BhWy1pDdb6hDpqYTFPAC King of Denver]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Denver’s Most Wanted]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Fame Game] (Quacko Album #1)

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nS--4rwuto&list=PLkjzFvYYwfwf9GI-lNXEqTqL8RZGERGpp New World Order] (Quacko Album #2)

Club Penguin [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcAwHdg5Fo 1], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8wvaw0TF4 2], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNYPDR3qdtc 3], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzzKZpFekE 4].

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/little-girls Little Girls]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8-joTfXdCo&ab_channel=DanielLarson Funky Western Days]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX0oG9Q18D8&ab_channel=DanielLarson Stay Tuned]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eKpZad8dKw Grave]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI8eId9vuz8&ab_channel=DanielLarsonMusic Love Status]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yUawzIIrY&ab_channel=DanielLarsonOfficialMusic Fortnite Freestyle] '''(features heavy use of [[Daniel Larson's Racism|racial slurs]])'''

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jmBuS5hod0 MANIPULATOR]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXptfI5a6RU Chimi Changa]

== SoundCloud projects ==
These projects are a mix of 'unofficial' (made by trolls) and 'official' (endorsed by Daniel.){{Citation Needed}}

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-ep ''DANIEL LARSON EP'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/cp-ep ''CP EP'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-vs-the-world ''Daniel Larson Vs. The World'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/im-sorry-grace I’m Sorry, Grace]

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/gambling-freedom ''Gambling (Freedom)'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/vlone-spit-feat-batman8142 Vlone Spit]

== Lost Music ==
These parts of Daniel's discography are considered [[Lost Media|lost media]].

[[Platinum Elite Records|Superstar]]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohefsS1zGJU Hey There Delilah (copyright blocked)]

[[Big Bank Records|''Pray 4 Denver (album)'']]

Discography

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''This article discusses music released by Daniel. For information on Daniel's music career as a whole, see [[Music Career]].''
[[File:DanSpotify.png|thumb|387x387px|Daniel's Spotify profile.]]
[[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] has released '''multiple songs''' over the years, claiming himself to be a professional singer-songwriter. Even so, Daniel has recorded very few "actual" songs (i.e. in a professional studio.)

== Studio singles ==
These songs were recorded in a professional studio, paid for by none other than [[Bob Proctor|Bob]]. It goes without saying that Daniel did not write any of these songs himself, rather, they are clearly generic, prewritten and pre-produced songs which he just provided the vocals for. These songs utilize heavy autotuning and various vocal effects to conceal Daniel's lack of singing ability.

=== Roaring Thunder ===
''Main article: [[Roaring Thunder]]''

Daniel's first professionally recorded song. Released July 15, 2021, but seems to have been re-released with a different cover on September 25, 2021.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6YbSxu2_OI Listen on YouTube]

=== Something More ===
"Something More" is Daniel's second professional song, released June 30, 2022.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlN42Nx4zo Listen on YouTube]

=== Merry Go Round ===
Unlike the previous two songs, "Merry Go Round" was leaked before release. The first of these leaks would come from a [[r/Daniellarson]] post on November 17, 2022, leaking lyrics and ideas for them seen in a note.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yxvo14/exclusive_informationdaniel_larsons_new_song/</ref> Then, [[Murk]] leaked the song to the subreddit on February 10, 2023. Daniel threatened suicide to a fan who informed him of the leak.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12sjus9/daniel_reacts_to_merry_go_round_being_leaked/</ref>

The song would eventually release officially on June 29, 2023, and sounded different from the leaked version, suggesting it was unfinished when leaked. Then, as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]], two early versions leaked. The first, "Merry Go Round - Vocaltracks ready to mix.mp3", sounds identical to the version leaked by Murk. The second, "Merry Go Round - Mix 2.mp3", appears to be a slightly earlier version of the final mix.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_ggPrBsbA Listen on YouTube]

== Scrapped studio singles ==

=== Wild Hearts ===
Daniel recorded a cover of "Wild Hearts" by Keith Urban. Although it is rough and unmixed, the studio-quality vocals suggest that it was recorded in the same studio as the other songs.

It was originally leaked as part of [[The Flexburger Leaks]]. Then, the original file leaked as part of the [[May 26th Music Leaks]].

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRC6vYlY25E Listen on YouTube]

== Unofficial projects ==
These songs are released under Daniel's name, though they are considered 'unofficial' as they are clearly intended to troll or mock him. Consequently, the songs are intentionally bad.

[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGApp2P41CBh2BhWy1pDdb6hDpqYTFPAC King of Denver]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Denver’s Most Wanted]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVeVsNcDkyk&list=PLNyTVaUCbfcVKJOKrySlEkAvHvLAv-ajg Fame Game] (Quacko Album #1)

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nS--4rwuto&list=PLkjzFvYYwfwf9GI-lNXEqTqL8RZGERGpp New World Order] (Quacko Album #2)

Club Penguin [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcAwHdg5Fo 1], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8wvaw0TF4 2], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNYPDR3qdtc 3], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzzKZpFekE 4].

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/little-girls Little Girls]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8-joTfXdCo&ab_channel=DanielLarson Funky Western Days]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX0oG9Q18D8&ab_channel=DanielLarson Stay Tuned]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eKpZad8dKw Grave]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI8eId9vuz8&ab_channel=DanielLarsonMusic Love Status]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yUawzIIrY&ab_channel=DanielLarsonOfficialMusic Fortnite Freestyle] '''(features heavy use of [[Daniel Larson's Racism|racial slurs]])'''

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jmBuS5hod0 MANIPULATOR]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXptfI5a6RU Chimi Changa]

== SoundCloud projects ==
These projects are a mix of 'unofficial' (made by trolls) and 'official' (endorsed by Daniel.){{Citation Needed}}

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-ep ''DANIEL LARSON EP'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/cp-ep ''CP EP'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/daniel-larson-vs-the-world ''Daniel Larson Vs. The World'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/im-sorry-grace I’m Sorry, Grace]

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/sets/gambling-freedom ''Gambling (Freedom)'']

[https://soundcloud.com/user-517764152/vlone-spit-feat-batman8142 Vlone Spit]

== Lost Music ==
These parts of Daniel's discography are considered [[Lost Media|lost media]].

[[Platinum Elite Records|Superstar]]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohefsS1zGJU Hey There Delilah (copyright blocked)]

[[Big Bank Records|''Pray 4 Denver (album)'']]

Talk:Pedophilia

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== Disclaimer needed ==
There should be a disclaimer to not try to do any sting operations without involving authorities, as usually it ends up being invalid in court.
Yes as much as Daniel’s a pedo, sting operations make it harder for the proper authorities to do much.
[[User:JustSomeDude|JustSomeDude]]

Regular authorities never did anything. The wiki never encourages people to troll him but if that logic was followed every page here would have a disclaimer. Relax dude, seriously. Sirenheaded

Pedophilia

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[[Daniel Larson|Daniel Larson's]] most (in)famous trait is his extensive history regarding '''pedophilia''' and '''pedophilic behavior.''' It is unclear where this behavior comes from. While the cause is extensively debated, It is speculated to have come from alleged childhood sexual abuse, the twisted, disjointed way he views the world (on account of his [[Mental Health|mental illnesses]]), intense porn addiction, and his stunted sexual development.

While Daniel has been manipulated to make admissions of pedophilia and evidence has been faked by past [[management]] and [[trolls]], there is irrefutable evidence that outright confirms Daniel to be a pedophile.

== Origins==
===Alleged Childhood Sexual Abuse===
{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|It is unknown if Daniel was truly raped or if he had an act adjacent to that performed onto him. It is important to note that Daniel is perfectly capable of being a pedophile, and exhibiting pedophilic tendencies, without constant accusations of childhood rape.}}[[File:Daniel Quora question about his mom.png|thumb|Daniel's question on [[Quora]] about his mother.]][[File:Daniel Sexual Abuse claims.png|thumb|Michelle Lawrence's comment on Facebook.|left]]It is speculated and constantly debated that Daniel's pedophilia is a result of a traumatic childhood experience, such as facing sexual abuse.

As such, it is speculated that Daniel's [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]] sexually assaulted him when he was young. This rumor spread after his [[Quora|Quora page]] was discovered. Quora is a website dedicated to asking and answering questions. On this account, Daniel questioned as to if the reader ever experienced their mother sexually stimulating them as a child. As such, many made the assumption that Elisabeth had carried out this act on his son. However, this is unconfirmed, and most likely false. During the [[Dog Arc]], a Facebook user by the name of Michelle Lawrence claimed to have worked with Daniel during his childhood, most likely during the time in which he was at the [[Tennyson Center]]. She claimed that Daniel had "...a history of child sexual abuse (to him and by him)," which adds believability the claim that Daniel was possibly molested as a child. However, due to no records existing of Michelle actually being an employee at the Tennyson Center, her claims remain invalid. Daniel is known to hold grudges against people, and if he had been previously sexually abused, especially in childhood, he most likely would have already posted about it. [[File:Ryan-Summer Camp abuse allegations.png|thumb]]
This is incredibly important as there has been an incredibly strong link established between childhood abuse and pedophilia, as anywhere between 33% to 75% of child sex offenders report being sexually abused as children.<ref name=":2">https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01542465</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213413000264</ref> According to a Canadian study:
{{Quote|Those who had been sexually abused before age 16 sexually offended against significantly younger victims and had significantly more indicators of pedophilic interest}}
Daniel's pedophilic tendencies could be a response to traumatic events from his childhood. Although Daniel's childhood abuse is tragic, it may have positive implications for his recovery. Sex offenders who were victims as children are more likely to complete treatment and avoid re-offending.<ref>https://journals.lww.com/practicalpsychiatry/abstract/2002/09000/clinical_features_of_pedophilia_and_implications.4.aspx</ref> However, it is highly unlikely for Daniel to receive treatment as a result of his [[Daniel and Mental Health|mental illnesses]] and his unwillingness to receive treatment for them.

Daniel also alleges that he was abused by a person named [[Ryan|"Ryan"]] from 2018-2019, although the validity of Ryan sexually assaulting Daniel is questionable, as information from the [[Caretaker Call]] implies that Daniel may have been the one to assault Ryan. Additionally, statements regarding when Ryan raped him are often contradictory or don't make any sense at all. For example, Daniel claims that Ryan sexually assaulted him due to Ryan supposedly being jealous of his perceived "[[Delusions|fame]]."

One of the earliest recorded instances of someone accusing Daniel of pedophilia online was November 22, 2020.<ref>https://x.com/jahaha_0/status/1330672361218088962</ref><ref>https://archive.ph/TbDbr</ref>

== Examples of Pedophilic Behaviour ==

===Obsession With Child Celebrities and Children in general ===
One of the most consistently appearing figures in the Daniel Larson saga is [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom he was obsessed with when she was well under the age of 18. Daniel has been known to like, bookmark, and watch videos of children. His usual subjects are celebrities such as the aforementioned Grace and Darci Lynne, but also with random children, which most disturbingly, were as young as infants. In October of 2023, Daniel was caught by a Reddit user liking photos of their infant child.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1731tnt/daniel_just_followed_me_on_tiktok_and_liked_all/</ref>

===Camera Roll===
On an unknown date, Daniel accidentally exposed his camera roll to his camera, which displayed possibly hundred of saved photos of children on his phone, some of them containing explicitly illegal photos of child nudity.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/k0vTOpu</ref>[Censored, of course]

'''Second Pinterest'''[[File:Daniel’s Screenshot.jpg|alt=Daniel Larson’s Screenshot|thumb|The screenshot Daniel uploaded, with his profile photo circled.]]In September 2023, Daniel’s second Pinterest was exposed by a Reddit user. The account was found when Daniel uploaded a screenshot which included his profile photo and an account he followed. His account, “Joy King” or comfortablecop12, was found by looking through J Gummysmile’s following list.

The account included several photos of Grace Vanderwaal and other child stars in bikinis alongside articles on masturbation, like his first Pinterest.

Once this account was exposed on the subreddit, he attempted to delete it. He claimed he has never used Pinterest before (despite posting several Pinterest screenshots the night before being exposed) and reported the subreddit.

=== Quora Leak===
''See [[Quora]]''

Daniel's Quora account, leaked some time after August of 2022 by Flexburger, featured even more admissions of pedophilia from Daniel, with quotes as blatant as:<blockquote>"Why do I have strange thoughts involving children?"

"How do pedophiles pick up a girl?"

"How did your daughter's body react to her first orgasm?"</blockquote>Daniel, despite denying this account was his, accidentally showed him having the Quora app and a Quora account on multiple occasions.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRc8mSqh/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/127uagt/i_thought_he_said_he_doesnt_use_quora/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/111bu6g/daniel_admitting_his_quora_was_hacked/</ref>

===Real Interaction===
Daniel used to live in a home with a family that had two children, one of them being named [[Breanna]]. The son of the two children recorded a highly disturbing video of Daniel Larson pouncing on and trying to kiss Breanna,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12tkn0s/_/</ref>[Extreme content warning] his sister. Daniel admitted to masturbating in front of Breanna and her brother in the "Columbia Records" Discord,<ref>https://reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17w5mc6/im_100_convinced_daniel_molested_brianna/</ref> admitted to touching her chest,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12y2xrb/_/</ref> and later making extremely graphic comments about Breanna, such as calling her an "upcoming pornstar."

===Sting Operations ===
Given Daniel's infamy on the internet as a lolcow and a horrorcow. Various trolls would approach him with the intent of trolling him, only to be met with his disturbing behavior. Several trolls impersonated 14-year-old actor Issy Simpson in order to catfish Daniel Larson on Kik, a messaging app. Daniel's conversations with the sting are highly disturbing, featuring Daniel asking extremely disgusting and sexual questions about minors. Several instances showcasing Daniel's pedophilic behavior have been leaked to Reddit. Many of them are cited above, below are three others that were not mentioned. All are compilations of leaked direct messages between Daniel and trolls.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14eqch4/since_daniel_wants_people_to_stop_calling_him_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 Ten pages of proof]

[[May 23rd Leak]]

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/158wihg/the_big_gangsta_clique_has_hacked_grace July 25th Leak]

=== Admissions ===
On January 16, 2023, Daniel went live after talking with a fake Grace VanderWaal who had convinced him to admit to both being a pedophile, and to having struck [[Bob Proctor]] on multiple occasions. User [https://www.reddit.com/user/Zealousideal-Hand-2 Zealousideal-Hand-2] on [[r/Daniellarson]] claimed to have been at least one of the "Graces" involved in extracting this admission.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10dzmlg/boys_im_glad_to_have_helped/</ref>

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On July 28, 2023, Daniel posted a video to his Youtube account after being "told by the FBI" to admit to his pedophilic action. Daniel admitted to sending nude pictures to minors, masturbating in public spaces, and shoving a water bottle into his rectum.

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On October 8, 2023, Daniel admits to saving nude pictures of a child onto his phone and keeping it for an extended period of time. these were supposedly sent to him by an unknown troll pretending to be Grace Vanderwaal as "video verification".

{{#evt:service=archiveorg|id=another-daniel-admission-to-saving-cheese-pizza7287601095441009962}}{{#evt:
service=archiveorg
|id=daniel-larson-admission
}}Daniel has admitted to, or has been manipulated into admitting that he is a pedophile in the past and present on multiple occasions, the video above being what is believed to be the first 'admission' ''(keep in mind that Daniel has been possibly manipulated into his admissions)''. Here are some quotes from some of his various admissions:<blockquote>"I admit... that I am a pedophile..." "...the reason being... is that I... growing up I didn't have anybody that, really, cared about me and I didn't have anybody that supported me."<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-admission</ref>

"In the past, I used to... uhm... use pictures of girls, uhm, and uhm, masturbate to them. Unfortunately, that was over, uhh... that was a long time ago, to be honest... and I am no longer that person, and I reached out for help and uhm, and, it just so happened that, since I gained popularity on the media, uhm, people found out about my past."<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7Qs7k_L04</ref>

"I am sorry, Dave, for looking up CP and for looking up kids wetting the bed... I am so fucking sorry."<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12lj1em/daniel_didnt_even_know_what_cp_meant_when_he_was/</ref>

"I am sorry for having 500 megabytes of child p*rn [''whispering'']"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18fjy7b/megabytes/</ref>

"I repent! That I am sorry for... masturbating to, pictures of children and Grace. I am sorry!"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/x3qcrz/daniel_repents/</ref></blockquote>While there is the possibility of manipulation, it is only a suspicion rather than an actual fact.

== Concept of Wrongdoing ==
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==References==
<references />

[[Category:Daniel]]

Daniel and mental health

2025-03-07T16:38:34Z

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{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Quote|So, because of my autism, my grandmother passed away of cancer.|author=Daniel, at a [[Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest|Roe v. Wade protest]].}}
[[Daniel]] has a troubled relationship with '''mental healthcare''' and '''mental health professionals. As well as penises'''

Daniel is very clearly mentally ill. His delusions are downright dangerous, from thinking he is in a romantic relationship with celebrity [[Grace VanderWaal]], all the way to believing he is a world-famous [[Music|musician]] that is above the law. He is not the sharpest tool in the shed, having a very low mental age in comparison with his physical age. This is most apparent in his [[Tennyson Center]] interview, where during the interview, Daniel acts more like a 7-year-old despite being 14 at the time of recording.

As a result of his long list of disorders, his very poor intellect, inability to perform self-care, and poor handling of certain situations, Daniel fails to function as an adult. The disorders he is confirmed to have as of July 2024 are '''autism''', '''bipolar disorder''', '''PTSD''', and '''schizophrenia'''. Due to Daniel's hostile relationship with psychotherapy, there are most likely other conditions he suffers from that will remain undiagnosed for the foreseeable future.

== The Issue(s) with Daniel ==

=== Autism ===
Daniel is confirmed to be autistic by both his [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]], and by Daniel himself. '''Autism''', formally classified as '''Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)''', refers to a loosely defined, but interconnected, range of neurological challenges with social interaction and communication.

His naïveté, poorly developed social skills, and [[meltdowns]], are all common symptoms of ASD. Daniel has been speculated to have sensory issues, which is commonly seen among those with autism. This is evidenced by the fact that Daniel rarely, if ever, [[Hygiene|bathes]]. This has caused theories to form, speculating if Daniel may have hypersensitivity issues to bathing — meaning that he has an aversion to bathing due to the sensation and/or texture of it on his skin.

As seen in the [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report|news report on the Tennyson Center]], Daniel can be viewed "stimming" and fidgeting repeatedly with his hands, which is defined as, “repetitive movements or noises. Stimming seems to help some autistic children and teenagers manage emotions and cope with overwhelming situations."<ref>[https://raisingchildren.net.au/autism/behaviour/common-concerns/stimming-asd#:~:text=Stimming%20is%20repetitive%20movements%20or,replacing%20it%20with%20safer%20behaviour. https://raisingchildren.net.au/autism/behaviour/common-concerns/stimming-asd#:~:text=Stimming%20is%20repetitive%20movements%20or,replacing%20it%20with%20safer%20behaviour.]</ref>

Another, much more dangerous, symptom of autism is [[Self Harm|self harm]]. Daniel can be seen in several meltdowns hitting himself, punching holes in walls, screaming, wailing, and slamming his head into his hands. This may be his version of saying that he does not like what is going on around him, as that is a common reason people with autism self-harm this way.<ref name=":0">https://autism.org/causes-and-interventions-for-self-injury-in-autism/</ref> Even though this is often a way for people with autism to signal things, it has also been speculated that Daniel does this to simply garner sympathy. Self harming is, oftentimes, a learned behavior, and Daniel may have self harmed this way when he was younger to get the attention he wants.<ref name=":0" />

Contrary to popular beliefs, autism does not necessarily make someone automatically smart, nor does it increase someone's IQ (unlike the much more appropriate "Savant syndrome"). In fact, around 60-70% of all autistic person have <90 IQ and only 5% of autistic people have greater-than average IQ. It is possible that Daniel Larson is between the mid to low functioning autism. However, he most likely does not have high functioning autism, as many who are live typically normal adult lives without needing any help.

Interestingly, there is a strong link between mothers with lupus, specifically systemic lupus erythematosus, giving birth to children with autism.<ref>https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-moms-lupus-children-autism.html</ref> Daniels [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]] suffers from lupus, so much so that she would eventually be left wheelchair-bound due to it. While unknown, it is likely that Daniel may have inherited his autism from this.

Despite saying that he has an autism diagnosis, Daniel appears to be in denial of it. He has stated multiple times that his diagnosis is false, that "autism doesn't exist."{{Citation Needed}}or that he has a different disorder that is not autism.<ref>[[Rooftop Interview]]</ref>

=== Bipolar disorder ===
'''Bipolar disorder''' is a mental disorder characterized by rapid and extreme mood swings, characterized by periods of depression, abnormal elation, and sometimes psychosis.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder</ref> While not mentioned by Daniel, his mother has confirmed that he is diagnosed with it.

Daniel is most likely diagnosed with Bipolar I, a more severe subtype of the disorder which presents with full-blown mania (in contrast to the milder hypomania in II) and often psychosis, a mental state which Daniel exhibits many classic symptoms of. Another major driving force behind Daniel's [[meltdowns]] is his bipolar, as in multiple of them, he is seen exhibiting psychotic behaviors. As an example, during the [[Likee Meltdown]], Daniel repeatedly threatened to commit suicide, as well as self-harming, if he was not given information on the status of [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family.

=== PTSD ===
'''Post-traumatic stress disorder''', or '''PTSD''', is a mental health condition that's triggered by a terrifying event — either experiencing it or witnessing it. Symptoms may include flashbacks, nightmares and severe anxiety, as well as uncontrollable thoughts about the event.<ref>[https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967#:~:text=Post%2Dtraumatic%20stress%20disorder%20(PTSD)%20is%20a%20mental%20health,uncontrollable%20thoughts%20about%20the%20event. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967#:~:text=Post%2Dtraumatic%20stress%20disorder%20(PTSD)%20is%20a%20mental%20health,uncontrollable%20thoughts%20about%20the%20event.]</ref>

In the [[Spiddlekick Interview]], Daniel says that he is more of the belief that he has PTSD over autism. It is unknown why he thinks this, but a docket report from the [[Jail Arc]] substantiates this diagnosis. It is called into question what caused his PTSD, whether it be alleged claims of physical, mental and/or sexual abuse from his childhood, or a completely different event entirely.

=== Schizophrenia ===
[[File:DiagnosisApril13.png|thumb|"Delusional ideas"]]
'''Schizophrenia''' is a mental disorder characterized by episodes of psychosis, hallucinations, disorganized thinking, and [[delusions]].<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia</ref> His mother has confirmed him having schizophrenia, just like many other of his mental disorders, as well as the fact Daniel has frequently taken [https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-155134/latuda-oral/details Latuda], a schizophrenia medication. He often shows delusions, believing himself to be in a relationship with several celebrities, believing himself to be in contention with [[Jacob Sartorius]], and most notably, believing himself to be a [[Daniel and reality|celebrity]]. Daniel has also had episodes of psychosis, believing himself to be watched or being shot at.

In reference to delusions, Daniel is known to have delusions of grandeur, as well as delusions of persecution. For example, Daniel, at one point, believed himself to be followed by several white vans to a point where he stowed away in a gas station out of fear of being hurt. During the [[UCLA Arc]], Daniel was under the impression that the Chinese government was watching him, after a troll pretending to be a student mentioned having talked to the government. Furthermore, he thought himself to have been poisoned by staff after eating a [[Red Robin Poisoning|Red Robin]]. After being released from the hospital, his discharge papers described him as having "delusional ideas".

=== Daniel's refusal to accept help ===
The one mental failing that debilitates Daniel most is his downright refusal to adapt to his environment and accept help when he needs it. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch. While Daniel has expressed several times that he desires help for his several problems, he always refuses it when it does not align with his delusions. During a conversation with his manager [[Ox]], when he was informed that every time he spoke to "Grace" he was speaking to a troll, he seemed to only acknowledge it in order to get Ox to stop talking to him. Daniel complains multiple times about not receiving help, even though he has received multiple items such as changes of clothes and hygiene products (which he often throws away), as well as large amounts of money, all because of the hospitality of others.

Despite being told multiple times by multiple people to buy more affordable meals so he would not have to deal with the consequences of [[Dine and dashes|Dine and Dashes]], he refused. Daniel continued to buy food wildly out of his price range, suffering [[Daniel and the Law|legal consequences]] due to defrauding restaurants he went to.

It is very obvious that Daniel values his [[delusions]] over his own wellbeing, because if he actually chose to accept the help of others, and follow the rules of establishments and places he stays at, he would have been in housing a very long time ago, or even more, not [[Homeless Era|homeless]] at all.

== History of professional help ==

=== Tennyson Center ===
[[Spiddlekick Interview|As noted]], Daniel was regularly medicated during his time attending school at and living at the [[Tennyson Center]]. He claimed that once a month, students would meet with a doctor to prescribe and check on the effects of medication supplied to them. Given Daniel's documented violence, both [[November 6th Arrest|then]] and [[April 6th Incident|now]], it is likely that he was put on some type of antipsychotic by the center.

Aviv, on the night of May 8 2023, stuck a whole dildo in his mouth. He was thus known as dildo man

=== Sobesky Academy ===
It is not confirmed if Daniel was medicated during his high school's years. However, according to a [[FlyingFoxandwings AMA|classmate]] of Daniel's, they state that it was highly speculated and very likely that he was medicated, considering that Daniel was very reserved and was rarely violent to others, and only occasionally [[Self Harm|to himself]].

=== Therapists ===
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=== Psychiatric Wards ===
While the quality of "help" can be debated, Daniel is no stranger to stays at psychiatric hospitals. During the conclusion of the [[Dog Arc]], Daniel was put into a psych ward following him having a [[The 7/11 Incident|meltdown in a Walmart]], as well as calling the police multiple times to "get his situation heard." While it is unknown if he was truly given medication, a voice note that surfaced during his stay depicts a very medicated sounding Daniel. It is most likely that he was given antipsychotics during his week-long stay.

After threatening people with fireworks, Daniel was put into a mental hospital which he has described as "A living hell", where he was given Latuda, a medication used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u6AothG63B4</ref>

After being found incompetent for trial on 19 July 2024 during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he was sent to a psychiatric institution. It is unknown when he was released from this institution, as he was back in FCI Englewood before being transferred to several facilities in Oklahoma. Afterwards, he was transferred and then institutionalized at MCFP Springfield for competency restoration. As of 1 January 2025, Daniel is still institutionalized at MCFP Springfield.

== See Also ==

* [[Daniel and health|Daniel and Health]]
* [[Daniel and Nutrition]]
* [[Psychiatric Hospital]]

== References ==

Daniel and the Law

2025-03-07T16:38:04Z

Trestletrouble:

{{Quote|I'm sorry, you're harassing somebody who is disabled. Please remove this number from your phone, or we will report you to the police.||author=[[Elisabeth Shimer|Elisabeth's]] caretaker, in response to a prank call}}
{{Quote|CALL FUCKING DISPATCH!|author=Daniel}}
[[File:DanJailCollage.png|thumb|A compilation of (most) of Daniel's mugshots. ]]

== Understanding of the Law ==
[[Daniel and Mental Health|As with his grip on reality]], Daniel's understanding of the law is tenuous at least. Daniel legitimately believes trolling is illegal, as well as regularly threatening unspecified legal actions against people who say mean things to him online, expose him for [[Pedophilia|pedophilic behavior]], or [[List of places that have banned Daniel|employees who remove them from establishments.]]

Daniel himself is prone to making violent threats, such as threatening to kill [[Bob Proctor]] on several occasions, as well as threatening to blow up with White House<ref>[[Dog Arc]]</ref> which are, of course, illegal to make. Daniel is also prone to calling the police for ridiculous reasons, such as when he (albeit, allegedly) screamed that he had a bomb to a 911 operator after [[Music]] was rescued from him, as well as demanding police officers to [[Call Fucking Dispatch|"CALL FUCKING DISPATCH!"]] in response to him being trolled online. These are, also, illegal (wasting police time) but Daniel has of now never been prosecuted for them. Interestingly, Daniel seems to have a rather skewed view of the idea of "self-defense". During several fights with [[Bob]] or [[Bodega Incident|others]], he is often the one to start altercations opposed to protecting himself whenever they happen.

All in all, to Daniel, laws only apply to trolls and those who he dislikes.

== Timeline ==
{{Stub}}
the following accounts are all fictional

=== 2017 ===

=== 2020 ===
In 2020, Daniel was reported to the FBI following the leaking of his [[Pinterest|Pinterest account]] in November. His Pinterest account contained several saved pictures of children, as well as a map of the age of consent in the United States. Several TikTok users, most notably [[The Delegation Podcast]], were under the assumption that Daniel was under the possession of illegal images of minors, which resulted in him being reported to the FBI as a result.<ref>[[Classic Era]]</ref> These reports sparked the first [[The Dark Ages|Dark Age,]] where Daniel left the internet for 3 1/2 months, coming back to TikTok in March of 2021.

While it is unclear what truly happened, and what the legal proceedings were, Daniel claimed on several occasions that he was investigated by FBI, and due to this, he was unable to show his face until further notice, and at a later date, claimed he was "cleared".

=== 2021 ===

==== Destruction of property ====
[[File:Wiubvznlpp391.png|thumb|Daniel's court order for property destruction. (Featuring his dirty thumb!)|350x350px]]
On August 13th, 2021, Daniel was charged with destruction of property for smashing the window of a car.<ref>https://www.denvercountycourt.org/search/?casenumber=21GS005165&firstname=DANIEL&lastname=LARSON&dob=11/15/1998&token=46feb0f272&searchtype=searchcancelwarrant</ref>

Due to this, Daniel was summoned to court. He failed to appear four separate times, and as a result had $350 worth of fees imposed on him via bond, bond forfeiture, and warrant fees. $100 worth of these have been paid, leaving $250 due.{{Citation Needed}}

<gallery>
File:LarsonWarrant1-1.jpg
File:LarsonWarrant1-2.jpg
File:LarsonWarrant1-3.jpg
</gallery>On August 29th, 2022, Daniel's destruction of property charge was dismissed. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/gallery/x0rg77</ref>

=== 2022 ===

==== Petty Theft ====
On May 13th, 2022, Daniel was charged with petty theft, based on the location of the violation: "500 16TH ST #120". It appears to be the location of a Hard Rock Café, suggesting it was a target of one of Daniel's [[dine and dashes]].<gallery>
File:LarsonWarrant2-1.jpg
</gallery>

==== Criminal Mischief ====
On June 9th, 2022, a criminal mischief case was opened against Daniel. After failing to appear once, the warrant was executed when he was arrested during his [[Homeless Arc#Not the End|October 16th tantrum]]. Daniel was appointed a public defender on October 25th with his "plea and setting hearing" on November 28th.<gallery>
File:Criminal Mischief Court Info 10-29.png
</gallery>

==== Alleged warrant merge ====
On August 4th 2022, Daniel uploaded a video announcing that he had gotten all of his warrants taken care of by "merging it all into one case", saying that it should all be cleared up within the month.<ref>https://archive.org/details/7128225641064975659</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/7128224082675551534</ref> While its validity is unclear, it is most likely that his cases were merged into one individual case due to Daniel repeatedly not showing up for them when ordered to.

==== Destruction of Property ====
On October 16th, 2022, a new case was opened for Daniel for destruction of property. The details of this are unknown, and it is unclear as to what happened to cause this. Daniel failed to appear on December 20th, 2022, and several other times after that. Eventually, his warrant was canceled on June 21, 2023.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fkg1t/the_weasel_actually_did_get_his_warrant_canceled/</ref>

=== 2023 ===

==== Trespassing ====
On May 15th, 2023, Daniel posted that overnight he was given a citation for [[Homeless Arc|sleeping in a MTA subway station]]. He said that it was a $100 fine, and posted a video that briefly shows the ticket on his TikTok account.<ref>https://drive.google.com/file/d/17AYyB3deIqbWcoLuYe6SFX5XUOYcr5iz/view</ref>

==== Dine and Dashing ====
[[File:Pk6xoi3736da1.jpg|thumb|Daniels arrest record.]]
On January 19th, 2023, Daniel was arrested for attempting to [[Dine and dashes|dine and dash]] at a Cheesecake Factory in Anaheim, California. Daniel was charged with "defrauding an innkeeper" and received a $950 fine.

==== 7/11 Incident ====
[[The 7/11 Incident|As noted]], on July 11th, 2023, Daniel walked into a local Walmart in a fit of rage after having the dog he adopted, Music, rescued from him. He proceeded to destroy several stands of merchandise, as well as attempting to hijack a bus full of elderly people, smashing the leash he'd bought earlier into the window. This ended up in Daniel being pinned to the floor by several police officers while he cried hysterically about Music being "dognapped."

In retellings of this incident, Daniel claims to have been illegally arrested and placed into police custody unfairly.

==== School of Mines Wall Damage ====
On July 11th, 2023, the same day as the 7/11 Incident, Daniel [[Video:Daniel Larson calls for security|livestreamed]] an interaction he had with EMTs after calling 911 multiple times. While he was in the ambulance a police officer was able to charge him $500 for damages to a wall at the School of Mines. Daniel quickly admitted to his crimes claiming he damaged the wall to make sure he was heard, that "this was serious".

==== Jefferson County Court Hearings ====
On September 14th, 2023, Daniel announced he would be appearing in court the following day in a YouTube short and several community posts.<ref>https://archive.org/details/i-have-court-tomorrow</ref> This was an arraignment for two misdemeanors at the Jefferson County Court in Golden, Colorado to which he turned up late. It is uncertain what exactly the charges were but he claimed that the maximum sentence was two years in jail. Daniel would plead not guilty, likely to buy him some time and hope for a good plea bargain. His next appearance in court would be set as October 31st, 2023, for a pre-trial conference.

After the arraignment, Daniel was again interviewed by Dylan. Daniel was asked several questions regarding Grace Vanderwaal, the trolls, leaked nudes and dating sites. In another video, Dylan also presented Daniel with some texts regarding Grace and Phi Kappa Tau. Daniel appeared troubled by these texts and proceeded to ask permission to take a photo of Dylan's phone. He soon after posted the image to YouTube through several community posts. There would later be a pre court interview uploaded by Dylan's friend, baristamuffin64.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-pre-court-interview</ref>

<gallery>
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.18.29.png|One of his early posts about the court hearing
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.18.57.png|Daniel revealing the location of the courthouse
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.19.13.png|Daniel after his court hearing announcing the result
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.27.39.png|Daniel's posts about the maximum sentence
File:DanielsArraignmentDocket.png|Docket records for Daniel's arraignment
File:DanielsPreTrialConferenceDocket.jpg|Docket records for Daniel's pre-trial conference
File:WHYGRACEWHY.png|WTF Grace?
</gallery>

[[File:Danielarrestfolsom.png|thumb|Daniel being taken away by police on September 16th, 2023.]][[File:Daniel-larson-is-in-custody-v0-yl4wade612sb1.png|thumb|The arrest report, not even a month after the College Arc.|left|342x342px]]
==== October 3rd Arrest ====
On October 3rd, 2023, Daniel Larson was taken into custody at the Jefferson County Detention Facility in Golden, Colorado, for missing his court date the day prior. A few hours later however, he was later released through means of being bonded out. Little is known about this arrest.

=== 2024 ===

==== February 3rd Arrest ====
Daniel Larson had a warrant issued for his arrest for being a fugitive of justice on January 23, 2024. He would later be arrested on February 3 and booked into the Arapahoe County Jail with a bond of $20,000 after he failed to show up to court. The [[Jail Arc]] would commence, and he would remain in jail for four weeks. On February 14, he was transferred to the Boulder County Jail and his bond was lowered to $5,000. He was released on March 1, 2024 after a court hearing.

==== [[March 19th Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson would be arrested again for a warrant for Fugitive of Justice. He was booked into the Broomfield County Detention Center, and was held at a $1,000 bond. He was released three days later after a court hearing, with his probation reinstated.

==== [[April 2nd Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson would be arrested for the fourth time this year, again, for fugitive of justice. This was caused by missing court on March 27, 2024, despite showing up very late. He was arrested on the bus, and booked into the Douglas County Detention Facility, and was held at a bond of $1,500 before being released the next day.

==== [[April 30th Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson was arrested for a federal warrant on all the threats he made from various meltdowns, all of which were investigated by [[Daniel MacDougall]] starting in the summer of 2023. He was booked into the Jefferson County Detention Facility, and was ineligible for bail, possibly indicating felony charges. As the charges were more severe than the previous, this commenced the [[Second Jail Arc]]. The charges were revealed later and he was transferred to FCI Englewood the next month, where he was found incompetent to stand trial. He was transferred out of FCI Englewood on December 10, 2024 to two facilities in Oklahoma and on December 27, 2024, was transferred to MCFP Springfield where he is currently receiving a mental health evaluation and competency restoration.

This arc is much longer than his previous incarcerations or arcs, spanning over 10 months.

== References ==
<references />
[[Category:Daniel]]

Daniel and the Law

2025-03-07T16:37:42Z

Trestletrouble:

{{Quote|I'm sorry, you're harassing somebody who is disabled. Please remove this number from your phone, or we will report you to the police.||author=[[Elisabeth Shimer|Elisabeth's]] caretaker, in response to a prank call}}
{{Quote|CALL FUCKING DISPATCH!|author=Daniel}}
[[File:DanJailCollage.png|thumb|A compilation of (most) of Daniel's mugshots. ]]

== Understanding of the Law ==
[[Daniel and Mental Health|As with his grip on reality]], Daniel's understanding of the law is tenuous at least. Daniel legitimately believes trolling is illegal, as well as regularly threatening unspecified legal actions against people who say mean things to him online, expose him for [[Pedophilia|pedophilic behavior]], or [[List of places that have banned Daniel|employees who remove them from establishments.]]

Daniel himself is prone to making violent threats, such as threatening to kill [[Bob Proctor]] on several occasions, as well as threatening to blow up with White House<ref>[[Dog Arc]]</ref> which are, of course, illegal to make. Daniel is also prone to calling the police for ridiculous reasons, such as when he (albeit, allegedly) screamed that he had a bomb to a 911 operator after [[Music]] was rescued from him, as well as demanding police officers to [[Call Fucking Dispatch|"CALL FUCKING DISPATCH!"]] in response to him being trolled online. These are, also, illegal (wasting police time) but Daniel has of now never been prosecuted for them. Interestingly, Daniel seems to have a rather skewed view of the idea of "self-defense". During several fights with [[Bob]] or [[Bodega Incident|others]], he is often the one to start altercations opposed to protecting himself whenever they happen.

All in all, to Daniel, laws only apply to trolls and those who he dislikes.

== Timeline ==
{{Stub}}
The following is a list of incidents Daniel has had with the law.

=== 2017 ===
On November 6th, 2017, Daniel was [[November 6th Arrest|arrested for 3rd degree assault]] after getting into a physical altercation with his wheelchair bound [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]], which ended up with him being sent to jail for 44-45 days. It is unknown what caused this situation, however, Daniel claims that it was aggravated after his mother allegedly cornered him, causing him to push her to the side. On this day, Daniel also received charges for instances of property damage and criminal mischief, although what happened to cause these charges is unknown and will most likely stay unknown.

=== 2020 ===
In 2020, Daniel was reported to the FBI following the leaking of his [[Pinterest|Pinterest account]] in November. His Pinterest account contained several saved pictures of children, as well as a map of the age of consent in the United States. Several TikTok users, most notably [[The Delegation Podcast]], were under the assumption that Daniel was under the possession of illegal images of minors, which resulted in him being reported to the FBI as a result.<ref>[[Classic Era]]</ref> These reports sparked the first [[The Dark Ages|Dark Age,]] where Daniel left the internet for 3 1/2 months, coming back to TikTok in March of 2021.

While it is unclear what truly happened, and what the legal proceedings were, Daniel claimed on several occasions that he was investigated by FBI, and due to this, he was unable to show his face until further notice, and at a later date, claimed he was "cleared".

=== 2021 ===

==== Destruction of property ====
[[File:Wiubvznlpp391.png|thumb|Daniel's court order for property destruction. (Featuring his dirty thumb!)|350x350px]]
On August 13th, 2021, Daniel was charged with destruction of property for smashing the window of a car.<ref>https://www.denvercountycourt.org/search/?casenumber=21GS005165&firstname=DANIEL&lastname=LARSON&dob=11/15/1998&token=46feb0f272&searchtype=searchcancelwarrant</ref>

Due to this, Daniel was summoned to court. He failed to appear four separate times, and as a result had $350 worth of fees imposed on him via bond, bond forfeiture, and warrant fees. $100 worth of these have been paid, leaving $250 due.{{Citation Needed}}

<gallery>
File:LarsonWarrant1-1.jpg
File:LarsonWarrant1-2.jpg
File:LarsonWarrant1-3.jpg
</gallery>On August 29th, 2022, Daniel's destruction of property charge was dismissed. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/gallery/x0rg77</ref>

=== 2022 ===

==== Petty Theft ====
On May 13th, 2022, Daniel was charged with petty theft, based on the location of the violation: "500 16TH ST #120". It appears to be the location of a Hard Rock Café, suggesting it was a target of one of Daniel's [[dine and dashes]].<gallery>
File:LarsonWarrant2-1.jpg
</gallery>

==== Criminal Mischief ====
On June 9th, 2022, a criminal mischief case was opened against Daniel. After failing to appear once, the warrant was executed when he was arrested during his [[Homeless Arc#Not the End|October 16th tantrum]]. Daniel was appointed a public defender on October 25th with his "plea and setting hearing" on November 28th.<gallery>
File:Criminal Mischief Court Info 10-29.png
</gallery>

==== Alleged warrant merge ====
On August 4th 2022, Daniel uploaded a video announcing that he had gotten all of his warrants taken care of by "merging it all into one case", saying that it should all be cleared up within the month.<ref>https://archive.org/details/7128225641064975659</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/7128224082675551534</ref> While its validity is unclear, it is most likely that his cases were merged into one individual case due to Daniel repeatedly not showing up for them when ordered to.

==== Destruction of Property ====
On October 16th, 2022, a new case was opened for Daniel for destruction of property. The details of this are unknown, and it is unclear as to what happened to cause this. Daniel failed to appear on December 20th, 2022, and several other times after that. Eventually, his warrant was canceled on June 21, 2023.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fkg1t/the_weasel_actually_did_get_his_warrant_canceled/</ref>

=== 2023 ===

==== Trespassing ====
On May 15th, 2023, Daniel posted that overnight he was given a citation for [[Homeless Arc|sleeping in a MTA subway station]]. He said that it was a $100 fine, and posted a video that briefly shows the ticket on his TikTok account.<ref>https://drive.google.com/file/d/17AYyB3deIqbWcoLuYe6SFX5XUOYcr5iz/view</ref>

==== Dine and Dashing ====
[[File:Pk6xoi3736da1.jpg|thumb|Daniels arrest record.]]
On January 19th, 2023, Daniel was arrested for attempting to [[Dine and dashes|dine and dash]] at a Cheesecake Factory in Anaheim, California. Daniel was charged with "defrauding an innkeeper" and received a $950 fine.

==== 7/11 Incident ====
[[The 7/11 Incident|As noted]], on July 11th, 2023, Daniel walked into a local Walmart in a fit of rage after having the dog he adopted, Music, rescued from him. He proceeded to destroy several stands of merchandise, as well as attempting to hijack a bus full of elderly people, smashing the leash he'd bought earlier into the window. This ended up in Daniel being pinned to the floor by several police officers while he cried hysterically about Music being "dognapped."

In retellings of this incident, Daniel claims to have been illegally arrested and placed into police custody unfairly.

==== School of Mines Wall Damage ====
On July 11th, 2023, the same day as the 7/11 Incident, Daniel [[Video:Daniel Larson calls for security|livestreamed]] an interaction he had with EMTs after calling 911 multiple times. While he was in the ambulance a police officer was able to charge him $500 for damages to a wall at the School of Mines. Daniel quickly admitted to his crimes claiming he damaged the wall to make sure he was heard, that "this was serious".

==== Jefferson County Court Hearings ====
On September 14th, 2023, Daniel announced he would be appearing in court the following day in a YouTube short and several community posts.<ref>https://archive.org/details/i-have-court-tomorrow</ref> This was an arraignment for two misdemeanors at the Jefferson County Court in Golden, Colorado to which he turned up late. It is uncertain what exactly the charges were but he claimed that the maximum sentence was two years in jail. Daniel would plead not guilty, likely to buy him some time and hope for a good plea bargain. His next appearance in court would be set as October 31st, 2023, for a pre-trial conference.

After the arraignment, Daniel was again interviewed by Dylan. Daniel was asked several questions regarding Grace Vanderwaal, the trolls, leaked nudes and dating sites. In another video, Dylan also presented Daniel with some texts regarding Grace and Phi Kappa Tau. Daniel appeared troubled by these texts and proceeded to ask permission to take a photo of Dylan's phone. He soon after posted the image to YouTube through several community posts. There would later be a pre court interview uploaded by Dylan's friend, baristamuffin64.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-pre-court-interview</ref>

<gallery>
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.18.29.png|One of his early posts about the court hearing
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.18.57.png|Daniel revealing the location of the courthouse
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.19.13.png|Daniel after his court hearing announcing the result
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.27.39.png|Daniel's posts about the maximum sentence
File:DanielsArraignmentDocket.png|Docket records for Daniel's arraignment
File:DanielsPreTrialConferenceDocket.jpg|Docket records for Daniel's pre-trial conference
File:WHYGRACEWHY.png|WTF Grace?
</gallery>

[[File:Danielarrestfolsom.png|thumb|Daniel being taken away by police on September 16th, 2023.]][[File:Daniel-larson-is-in-custody-v0-yl4wade612sb1.png|thumb|The arrest report, not even a month after the College Arc.|left|342x342px]]
==== October 3rd Arrest ====
On October 3rd, 2023, Daniel Larson was taken into custody at the Jefferson County Detention Facility in Golden, Colorado, for missing his court date the day prior. A few hours later however, he was later released through means of being bonded out. Little is known about this arrest.

=== 2024 ===

==== February 3rd Arrest ====
Daniel Larson had a warrant issued for his arrest for being a fugitive of justice on January 23, 2024. He would later be arrested on February 3 and booked into the Arapahoe County Jail with a bond of $20,000 after he failed to show up to court. The [[Jail Arc]] would commence, and he would remain in jail for four weeks. On February 14, he was transferred to the Boulder County Jail and his bond was lowered to $5,000. He was released on March 1, 2024 after a court hearing.

==== [[March 19th Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson would be arrested again for a warrant for Fugitive of Justice. He was booked into the Broomfield County Detention Center, and was held at a $1,000 bond. He was released three days later after a court hearing, with his probation reinstated.

==== [[April 2nd Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson would be arrested for the fourth time this year, again, for fugitive of justice. This was caused by missing court on March 27, 2024, despite showing up very late. He was arrested on the bus, and booked into the Douglas County Detention Facility, and was held at a bond of $1,500 before being released the next day.

==== [[April 30th Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson was arrested for a federal warrant on all the threats he made from various meltdowns, all of which were investigated by [[Daniel MacDougall]] starting in the summer of 2023. He was booked into the Jefferson County Detention Facility, and was ineligible for bail, possibly indicating felony charges. As the charges were more severe than the previous, this commenced the [[Second Jail Arc]]. The charges were revealed later and he was transferred to FCI Englewood the next month, where he was found incompetent to stand trial. He was transferred out of FCI Englewood on December 10, 2024 to two facilities in Oklahoma and on December 27, 2024, was transferred to MCFP Springfield where he is currently receiving a mental health evaluation and competency restoration.

This arc is much longer than his previous incarcerations or arcs, spanning over 10 months.

== References ==
<references />
[[Category:Daniel]]

Daniel and the Law

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{{Quote|I'm sorry, you're harassing somebody who is disabled. Please remove this number from your phone, or we will report you to the police.||author=[[Elisabeth Shimer|Elisabeth's]] caretaker, in response to a prank call}}
{{Quote|CALL FUCKING DISPATCH!|author=Daniel}}
[[File:DanJailCollage.png|thumb|A compilation of (most) of Daniel's mugshots. ]]
'''Laws''' are a set of rules established by a society, typically to protect its members and ensure the orderly function of society. For, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]], however, laws serve as a deterrent in his career as a [[Music Career|singer-songwriter]] and aspirations of marrying [[Grace VanderWaal]]. As one can guess, he has been in trouble with the law on several occasions, racking up an incredible amount of charges and visits to jail.

As of September 2024, Daniel has been to jail a whopping number of '''7''' times, 4 for being a [[Jail Arc|fugitive of justice]] – after repeatedly not attending court, 2 for assault, one of which being to [[November 6th Arrest|his own mother]], and 1 time for making terroristic threats against the government.

Daniel has found himself with charges for destruction of private property, petty theft, trespassing, criminal mischief, and so on. Despite this, Daniel has hardly faced any incarceration despite these crimes, and when he has, his stays behind bars are typically brief.

[[Colorado Springs|Colorado]], where Daniel has resided for most of his life, has several laws meant to imprison repeat offenders – which often times means that if an individual is brought in a third time for a felony or misdemeanor, the sentence if found guilty is more severe than than the last (in some states, the sentence is life in prison). But, seeing as Daniel has almost always gotten away with a slap on the wrist, it is very unlikely that he will be staying in jail, much less prison. Due to the negligence of the police, several businesses have been defrauded by Daniel.

Daniel's plot armor with the law seemed to finally shatter on [[April 30th Arrest|30 April 2024]], when he was arrested while at a probation meeting in Boulder, Colorado. Afterwards, [[Second Jail Arc|he was charged with seven counts of making threats]], and is at risk of spending up to 65 years in federal prison if found guilty on all charges. Since his arrest, he has been in the federal prison system ever since; he was institutionalized at MFCP Springfield to be made competent for trial on 27 December 2024, and remains there as of this very day.

== Understanding of the Law ==
[[Daniel and Mental Health|As with his grip on reality]], Daniel's understanding of the law is tenuous at least. Daniel legitimately believes trolling is illegal, as well as regularly threatening unspecified legal actions against people who say mean things to him online, expose him for [[Pedophilia|pedophilic behavior]], or [[List of places that have banned Daniel|employees who remove them from establishments.]]

Daniel himself is prone to making violent threats, such as threatening to kill [[Bob Proctor]] on several occasions, as well as threatening to blow up with White House<ref>[[Dog Arc]]</ref> which are, of course, illegal to make. Daniel is also prone to calling the police for ridiculous reasons, such as when he (albeit, allegedly) screamed that he had a bomb to a 911 operator after [[Music]] was rescued from him, as well as demanding police officers to [[Call Fucking Dispatch|"CALL FUCKING DISPATCH!"]] in response to him being trolled online. These are, also, illegal (wasting police time) but Daniel has of now never been prosecuted for them. Interestingly, Daniel seems to have a rather skewed view of the idea of "self-defense". During several fights with [[Bob]] or [[Bodega Incident|others]], he is often the one to start altercations opposed to protecting himself whenever they happen.

All in all, to Daniel, laws only apply to trolls and those who he dislikes.

== Timeline ==
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The following is a list of incidents Daniel has had with the law.

=== 2017 ===
On November 6th, 2017, Daniel was [[November 6th Arrest|arrested for 3rd degree assault]] after getting into a physical altercation with his wheelchair bound [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]], which ended up with him being sent to jail for 44-45 days. It is unknown what caused this situation, however, Daniel claims that it was aggravated after his mother allegedly cornered him, causing him to push her to the side. On this day, Daniel also received charges for instances of property damage and criminal mischief, although what happened to cause these charges is unknown and will most likely stay unknown.

=== 2020 ===
In 2020, Daniel was reported to the FBI following the leaking of his [[Pinterest|Pinterest account]] in November. His Pinterest account contained several saved pictures of children, as well as a map of the age of consent in the United States. Several TikTok users, most notably [[The Delegation Podcast]], were under the assumption that Daniel was under the possession of illegal images of minors, which resulted in him being reported to the FBI as a result.<ref>[[Classic Era]]</ref> These reports sparked the first [[The Dark Ages|Dark Age,]] where Daniel left the internet for 3 1/2 months, coming back to TikTok in March of 2021.

While it is unclear what truly happened, and what the legal proceedings were, Daniel claimed on several occasions that he was investigated by FBI, and due to this, he was unable to show his face until further notice, and at a later date, claimed he was "cleared".

=== 2021 ===

==== Destruction of property ====
[[File:Wiubvznlpp391.png|thumb|Daniel's court order for property destruction. (Featuring his dirty thumb!)|350x350px]]
On August 13th, 2021, Daniel was charged with destruction of property for smashing the window of a car.<ref>https://www.denvercountycourt.org/search/?casenumber=21GS005165&firstname=DANIEL&lastname=LARSON&dob=11/15/1998&token=46feb0f272&searchtype=searchcancelwarrant</ref>

Due to this, Daniel was summoned to court. He failed to appear four separate times, and as a result had $350 worth of fees imposed on him via bond, bond forfeiture, and warrant fees. $100 worth of these have been paid, leaving $250 due.{{Citation Needed}}

<gallery>
File:LarsonWarrant1-1.jpg
File:LarsonWarrant1-2.jpg
File:LarsonWarrant1-3.jpg
</gallery>On August 29th, 2022, Daniel's destruction of property charge was dismissed. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/gallery/x0rg77</ref>

=== 2022 ===

==== Petty Theft ====
On May 13th, 2022, Daniel was charged with petty theft, based on the location of the violation: "500 16TH ST #120". It appears to be the location of a Hard Rock Café, suggesting it was a target of one of Daniel's [[dine and dashes]].<gallery>
File:LarsonWarrant2-1.jpg
</gallery>

==== Criminal Mischief ====
On June 9th, 2022, a criminal mischief case was opened against Daniel. After failing to appear once, the warrant was executed when he was arrested during his [[Homeless Arc#Not the End|October 16th tantrum]]. Daniel was appointed a public defender on October 25th with his "plea and setting hearing" on November 28th.<gallery>
File:Criminal Mischief Court Info 10-29.png
</gallery>

==== Alleged warrant merge ====
On August 4th 2022, Daniel uploaded a video announcing that he had gotten all of his warrants taken care of by "merging it all into one case", saying that it should all be cleared up within the month.<ref>https://archive.org/details/7128225641064975659</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/7128224082675551534</ref> While its validity is unclear, it is most likely that his cases were merged into one individual case due to Daniel repeatedly not showing up for them when ordered to.

==== Destruction of Property ====
On October 16th, 2022, a new case was opened for Daniel for destruction of property. The details of this are unknown, and it is unclear as to what happened to cause this. Daniel failed to appear on December 20th, 2022, and several other times after that. Eventually, his warrant was canceled on June 21, 2023.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fkg1t/the_weasel_actually_did_get_his_warrant_canceled/</ref>

=== 2023 ===

==== Trespassing ====
On May 15th, 2023, Daniel posted that overnight he was given a citation for [[Homeless Arc|sleeping in a MTA subway station]]. He said that it was a $100 fine, and posted a video that briefly shows the ticket on his TikTok account.<ref>https://drive.google.com/file/d/17AYyB3deIqbWcoLuYe6SFX5XUOYcr5iz/view</ref>

==== Dine and Dashing ====
[[File:Pk6xoi3736da1.jpg|thumb|Daniels arrest record.]]
On January 19th, 2023, Daniel was arrested for attempting to [[Dine and dashes|dine and dash]] at a Cheesecake Factory in Anaheim, California. Daniel was charged with "defrauding an innkeeper" and received a $950 fine.

==== 7/11 Incident ====
[[The 7/11 Incident|As noted]], on July 11th, 2023, Daniel walked into a local Walmart in a fit of rage after having the dog he adopted, Music, rescued from him. He proceeded to destroy several stands of merchandise, as well as attempting to hijack a bus full of elderly people, smashing the leash he'd bought earlier into the window. This ended up in Daniel being pinned to the floor by several police officers while he cried hysterically about Music being "dognapped."

In retellings of this incident, Daniel claims to have been illegally arrested and placed into police custody unfairly.

==== School of Mines Wall Damage ====
On July 11th, 2023, the same day as the 7/11 Incident, Daniel [[Video:Daniel Larson calls for security|livestreamed]] an interaction he had with EMTs after calling 911 multiple times. While he was in the ambulance a police officer was able to charge him $500 for damages to a wall at the School of Mines. Daniel quickly admitted to his crimes claiming he damaged the wall to make sure he was heard, that "this was serious".

==== Jefferson County Court Hearings ====
On September 14th, 2023, Daniel announced he would be appearing in court the following day in a YouTube short and several community posts.<ref>https://archive.org/details/i-have-court-tomorrow</ref> This was an arraignment for two misdemeanors at the Jefferson County Court in Golden, Colorado to which he turned up late. It is uncertain what exactly the charges were but he claimed that the maximum sentence was two years in jail. Daniel would plead not guilty, likely to buy him some time and hope for a good plea bargain. His next appearance in court would be set as October 31st, 2023, for a pre-trial conference.

After the arraignment, Daniel was again interviewed by Dylan. Daniel was asked several questions regarding Grace Vanderwaal, the trolls, leaked nudes and dating sites. In another video, Dylan also presented Daniel with some texts regarding Grace and Phi Kappa Tau. Daniel appeared troubled by these texts and proceeded to ask permission to take a photo of Dylan's phone. He soon after posted the image to YouTube through several community posts. There would later be a pre court interview uploaded by Dylan's friend, baristamuffin64.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-pre-court-interview</ref>

<gallery>
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.18.29.png|One of his early posts about the court hearing
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.18.57.png|Daniel revealing the location of the courthouse
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.19.13.png|Daniel after his court hearing announcing the result
File:Screenshot 2023-09-15 at 23.27.39.png|Daniel's posts about the maximum sentence
File:DanielsArraignmentDocket.png|Docket records for Daniel's arraignment
File:DanielsPreTrialConferenceDocket.jpg|Docket records for Daniel's pre-trial conference
File:WHYGRACEWHY.png|WTF Grace?
</gallery>

[[File:Danielarrestfolsom.png|thumb|Daniel being taken away by police on September 16th, 2023.]][[File:Daniel-larson-is-in-custody-v0-yl4wade612sb1.png|thumb|The arrest report, not even a month after the College Arc.|left|342x342px]]
==== October 3rd Arrest ====
On October 3rd, 2023, Daniel Larson was taken into custody at the Jefferson County Detention Facility in Golden, Colorado, for missing his court date the day prior. A few hours later however, he was later released through means of being bonded out. Little is known about this arrest.

=== 2024 ===

==== February 3rd Arrest ====
Daniel Larson had a warrant issued for his arrest for being a fugitive of justice on January 23, 2024. He would later be arrested on February 3 and booked into the Arapahoe County Jail with a bond of $20,000 after he failed to show up to court. The [[Jail Arc]] would commence, and he would remain in jail for four weeks. On February 14, he was transferred to the Boulder County Jail and his bond was lowered to $5,000. He was released on March 1, 2024 after a court hearing.

==== [[March 19th Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson would be arrested again for a warrant for Fugitive of Justice. He was booked into the Broomfield County Detention Center, and was held at a $1,000 bond. He was released three days later after a court hearing, with his probation reinstated.

==== [[April 2nd Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson would be arrested for the fourth time this year, again, for fugitive of justice. This was caused by missing court on March 27, 2024, despite showing up very late. He was arrested on the bus, and booked into the Douglas County Detention Facility, and was held at a bond of $1,500 before being released the next day.

==== [[April 30th Arrest]] ====
Daniel Larson was arrested for a federal warrant on all the threats he made from various meltdowns, all of which were investigated by [[Daniel MacDougall]] starting in the summer of 2023. He was booked into the Jefferson County Detention Facility, and was ineligible for bail, possibly indicating felony charges. As the charges were more severe than the previous, this commenced the [[Second Jail Arc]]. The charges were revealed later and he was transferred to FCI Englewood the next month, where he was found incompetent to stand trial. He was transferred out of FCI Englewood on December 10, 2024 to two facilities in Oklahoma and on December 27, 2024, was transferred to MCFP Springfield where he is currently receiving a mental health evaluation and competency restoration.

This arc is much longer than his previous incarcerations or arcs, spanning over 10 months.

== References ==
<references />
[[Category:Daniel]]

Talk:Second Jail Arc

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== What parts of the article need citations by them? ==
Heading is self-explanatory. Any thoughts? Daniel has produced a treasure-trove of self-incriminating media so it shouldn't be too hard to back anything up.

Second Jail Arc

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''This article covers Daniel's arrest on April 30, 2024 for various federal charges. For other uses, see [[Jail (Disambiguation)]].''{{Ongoing}}{{Ambox
| Name = Contact
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| issue = '''Do NOT attempt''' to contact anyone involved in the investigation against Daniel or contact Daniel while he is in jail. Individuals associated with Daniel, especially '''[[Management]]''', have been investigated by law enforcement due to their involvement with Daniel. Bear this in mind and keep yourself safe.
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}}[[File:DanielMugshot4.png|thumb|Why the long face? ]]

On '''April 30, 2024,''' [[Daniel]] was [[Daniel and the Law|'''arrested''']] and placed into Jefferson County Detention Facility. At the time of his arrest, the charges against him were undisclosed, with the listed reason being "courtesy housing for another agency." The following day, Daniel was transferred to the Clear Creek County Jail, where his mugshot was soon taken.

Initially, it was believed that Daniel's arrest was related to multiple probation violations, as in the days leading up to his arrest, Daniel [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|defrauded a Buffalo Wild Wings]], and admitted to viewing [[Pedophilia|exploitive material of children]].<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> However, according to a call made to his manager, [[Clark]], Daniel was arrested for the several terroristic threats he had made over the past year. These claims were later backed by documents which revealed that Daniel had been charged with seven counts of threats, carrying a maximum sentence of 65 years.

This was the fifth time Daniel had been arrested in 2024 alone, with the most recent occurring [[April 2nd Arrest|less than a month prior]]. Unlike previous arrests, Daniel is ineligible for bond, and given the severity of the charges, there is a possibility he will never be granted bond.

At the time of Daniels arrest, it was believed that Daniel's manager, [[Clark]], had been apprehended by authorities at his job due to his association with Daniel over the previous 10 months. However, it was soon revealed that Clark and members of Daniel's [[management]] were investigated by authorities who sought information about threats Daniel had made. Afterward, Clark officially resigned from being Daniel's manager, and admitted to lying about his entire existence to Daniel. This aforementioned call was speculated to have been the last contact Daniel has had with the outside world, but this would soon be proven false, as Clark continued to communicate with him months later, however there has been no communication since Daniel's transfer to Springfield.

Following this, Daniel's contact with the outside world has been through sporadic phone correspondence, which suspended for nearly four months until September. He was in contact with [[Lil Sippy]] and [[Clark]] while in FCI Englewood through phone calls, emails and letters.

During his two brief stays at two correctional facilities in Oklahoma, he was in touch with [[Clark]] via phone calls. However, since his transfer to MCFP Springfield in late December 2024, all communication appears to have ceased permanently with the exception of occasional letters.

On May 31, 2024, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution]]. He was held in a mental health facility for evaluation, and was institutionalized on July 19 after being found incompetent to stand trial.

On December 6, 2024, Daniel informed [[Lil Sippy]] that he was to be transferred to the United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners, or Springfield, in the following week. He was released from Englewood four days later and was transferred to [[wikipedia:Cimarron_Correctional_Facility|Cimarron Correctional Facility]] in Oklahoma where he stayed for two weeks. On Christmas Eve, he was transferred to Grady County Detention Center for unknown reasons, and three days later was transferred to the Springfield for further mental health evaluation. The process will take four months, and will end at the end of April. Based on his delusions remaining quite strong during his stay at FCI Englewood, it can be presumed that he will be deemed (like previously) incompetent to stand trial, though this cannot be assured concretely.

This is one of the most significant events in Daniel's life, considering that he is currently at risk of being imprisoned for up to 65 years if found guilty on all charges, or possibly see himself institutionalized for the rest of his life. Many see this as the final blow, with his [[Plot Armor|plot armor]] truly breaking. It has also become the most publicized aspect of Daniel's life thus far, as multiple social media accounts and news articles have covered the situation as it unfolded.<ref>[[Daniel in the media]]</ref> The Second Jail Arc stands as the longest period of Daniel being incarcerated, followed by the [[November 6th Arrest]].

As of March7, Daniel still remains on the run after escaping in a fucking crazy explosion escape and nows hes gone where the fuck is daniel

==Background==
[[File:DanielArrestWarrent.png|thumb|Warrant for Daniel's arrest. |383x383px]]
During the summer of 2023, a Secret Service agent named [[Daniel MacDougall]] began investigating Daniel following several terroristic threats he had made, namely one in which he threatened to blow up the White House. This threat in particular came right off of the heels of Daniel having had a [[7/11 incident|destructive meltdown]] in a Walmart after having his [[Dog Arc|dog]] taken from him. Following this, Daniel would have multiple meetings with MacDougall, including one notable encounter where he met with MacDougall and an associate of his.<ref>https://archive.org/details/p1Kq9L756V8</ref>[[File:DanielLastpost.png|left|thumb|Daniel's last post before his well-deserved arrest. ]]Despite being repeatedly warned by a legitimate Secret Service agent to cease making threats against people, businesses, and government agencies, Daniel refused, continuing to make threats, even making threats against MacDougall himself.<ref>[[April 6th Meltdown]]</ref> As a result, a case was built against Daniel, which eventually led to his arrest. Law enforcement interrogated both Clark, his then-manager, and members of Daniel's management to verify the threats he had made over the years. These testimonies provided the final pieces of evidence necessary to arrest Daniel.
On April 25th, a warrant was issued for Daniel's arrest. This was thought to be due to Daniel having violated his probation multiple times, even before the issuing of said warrant. This notion was only exacerbated by the fact that only two days after this warrant was issued, he was [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]] of a Pumphouse restaurant by authorities on April 27,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1cgq1rg/footage_of_the_pumphouse_incident/</ref> defrauded a [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|Buffalo Wild Wings]] the next day, and on his YouTube community tab, claimed to have viewed illegal material of children.<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> [[File:April30thBookingInfo.png|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."|left|372x372px]]

On the evening of April 29, Daniel became inactive on every one of his [[Social Media Accounts|social media accounts]], with his last post stating that he was on the bus back to Boulder.

Daniel is well known for making terroristic threats via social media and is speculated to have made over 100 of these threats since 2021. This habit of threat-making appeared to escalate in the weeks preceding his arrest. A prime example of this trend can be seen in the [[April 6th Meltdown]], in which Daniel repeated the phrase "bomb you!" and "kill you!" threatening to vandalize several government buildings. Even more, in January of the same year, Daniel [[January 26th Hospital Incident|threatened to carry out a mass shooting against a hospital]] after having been [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]].

These threats would not serve him well in the long run, as the Colorado Police Department was slowly build a case against him, charging him with seven counts of threats, which carries a maximum sentence of '''65 years'''.

In the indictment calling for Daniel's arrest, each threat Daniel made that contributed to his arrest was stated, most notably one wherein Daniel threatened to bomb a non-profit organization. This was soon discovered to be the Developmental Disabilities Resource Center, or the [[DDRC]]. The DDRC is a non-profit organization that helped house Daniel in the past. While the reason behind this threat is unknown, Daniel's threats led to the building being evacuated and searched by bomb-sniffing dogs.

Additionally, the case included the following Incidents:

* [[July 3rd Community Tab Incident]], where he threatened to bomb Spotify's headquarters and a courthouse.
* [[August 29th Meltdown]], where he threatened to bomb the White House and every police station in the U.S.
* [[Christmas Day Meltdown]], where he threatened to kill Secret Service Agent [[Daniel MacDougall]].
* [[March 23rd Meltdown]], where he threatens to bomb the FBI headquarters and kill their personnel.

==The Arrest==
Daniel was arrested on the afternoon of April 30 during his probation meeting. He was booked into the Jefferson County Detention Facility, and was ineligible for bail. Before his actual charges were revealed, he was charged with, "courtesy housing for another agency." Daniel was transferred to Clear Creek County Jail the next day.[[File:ClarkArrest.png|thumb|Looks like management Better Call Saul!|344x344px]]

===Clark's (alleged) arrest, and interactions with Bob===
{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|It is important to note that Daniel's management has not, and will not, face legal repercussions for their involvement with Daniel. Many have claimed that they will be going to jail for the same amount of time Daniel will, which is frankly ridiculous. However, you should still not attempt to interact with Daniel while he is incarcerated.}}

On May 3, [[Clark]], Daniel's former [[Management|manager]], reported in a Discord server that police officers had shown up at his place of work. Almost instantly afterward, Clark went offline. It was at first assumed that he had been arrested due to allegedly being an accomplice to all of Daniel's threats, as well as having alleged contact with the Secret Service agent that got Daniel arrested in the first place. This was later proven to be false.
[[File:BobClarkText1.png|left|thumb|Text's between Clark and Bob. ]]
Following hours of silence, Clark resurfaced on Discord with concerning messages. He shared that he had been fired from his job for being, "too drunk." Additionally, he was contacted by Bob Proctor, Daniel's mentor, about Daniel allegedly getting into a fight while being held. This was a revelation nobody knew, as it was thought that since the [[Christmas Day Meltdown]], Bob had officially cut ties with Daniel.

After being contacted by bob, Clark stepped down as Daniel's manager. In his (at the time) final calls to him, he admitted to Daniel that everything he had done up until that point had been fake, and that he would cease contacting him going forward.<ref>[[Jail Communications#May 6]]</ref>

Shortly after this call was conducted, a final call between Clark and Daniel was made.<ref>[[Jail Communications#May 9]]</ref> In texts to Clark, Bob stated that Daniel wanted to have a man-to-man talk with Clark.<ref>[[:File:BobClarkText3.png]]</ref>

==The Charges==
Daniel is currently facing serious legal charges. Initially, he was facing six counts of, "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive," and one count of, "Interstate Communication of Threats." Each, "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive," charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in federal prison. The "Interstate Communication of Threats" charge could add another five years.<ref>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/844#:~:text=Whoever%20transports%20or%20receives%2C%20or,or%20personal%20property%2C%20shall%20be</ref><ref>[https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875#:~:text=(c)-,Whoever%20transmits%20in%20interstate%20or%20foreign%20commerce%20any%20communication%20containing,than%20five%20years%2C%20or%20both. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875#:~:text=(c)-,Whoever%20transmits%20in%20interstate%20or%20foreign%20commerce%20any%20communication%20containing,than%20five%20years%2C%20or%20both.]</ref> Based off of all seven charges, the maximum jail time that Daniel could face was 65 years in prison. It is difficult to accurately estimate to the fines that Daniel may face as they range quite substantially. <gallery caption="Daniel's full indictment">
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==Legal proceedings and communications==
See also: [[Jail Communications]]{{SpecialMessage|Message=Some scans of court documents may be in low quality. Help us out by getting higher quality/clearer scans.}}[[File:JaredPublicDefender.png|left|thumb|Daniel's public defender, Jared Westbroek. |274x274px]]

=== First jail communication ===
Shortly after being incarcerated, Daniel had a phone conversation with [[Clark]], his then manager, on May 1. As mentioned in these calls, Daniel was assigned a public defender due to him [[Daniel Larson's Finances|not having the means]] to obtain a lawyer. His attorney was soon identified as '''Jared Scott Westbroek.''' According to Daniel, his public defender is attempting to argue that Daniel could not have carried out any of his threats as he lacked the resources to do so, therefore he should be released.

=== Second and third communication ===
On May 6, motivated by the interaction he had with law enforcement at his workplace, Clark [[Jail Communications#May 6|called]] Daniel, revealing that his entire existence was a lie, and everything he had done up to the point was a fallacy. This call is the most serious out of all of them, with Clark referring to it as the "most important call of his life."

On May 9, Clark reluctantly answered a phone call from Daniel after being convinced to do so, despite an earlier decision to cut contact. Daniel reached out in hopes to fix their friendship. Clark remained serious, telling Daniel he has many people to apologize to. This would be the last call Daniel would have for nearly 4 months.

===Motion for Daniel's release===
On May 10, right before Daniel's court hearing, documents were found that detailed Daniel's public defender, Jared Scott Westbroek, introducing a motion for Daniel's immediate release. However, this motion, along with one filed the day before were both denied by the judge.

These documents requested that Daniel be outfitted with an ankle tracker and placed under mandatory mental health treatment if released. This document also mentions placing Daniel into a halfway house, where he would presumably stay if he were to come out of jail, which has not happened yet.

As of June 29, this motion has been left unresolved.

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===May 10 court appearance ===
[[File:BobClarkText2.png|left|thumb|"Nothing was accomplished."|286x286px]][[File:NotGuilty.png|thumb|TLDR; He's not getting out. ]]Daniel appeared in court for an arraignment on May 10, 2024, and pleaded not guilty to all charges. Due to his not guilty plea, Daniel was not released from jail. Daniel was given a new trial date, set to July 15, which was stated in the Order of Detention following the trial. According to Bob, Daniel stated that, "nothing was accomplished" following the hearing's conclusion.

In texts to Clark, Bob tells him that he would be held until a mental health evaluation was conducted (which Daniel will most definitely fail). Additionally, Bob states that Daniel says the the "appearance got leaked," although it is unclear as to what Daniel meant by this.

==== Order of detention ====
After the court hearing, the judge, Norman Reid Neureiter, issued an order of detention. This confirmed that Daniel would, in fact, remain in jail after pleading not guilty, as well as the judge demanding that Daniel complete a mandatory mental health evaluation. This order of detention also touches upon Daniel's request to be released. <gallery caption="Gallery">
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===May 23 mental health evaluation docket ===
A docket from May 23 ordered Daniel undergo a mental health evaluation. His July 10th and 15th court dates were canceled, and he was sent to undergo an evaluation at a mental health facility.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e0ermn/his_court_dates_were_canceled/#lightbox</ref>

=== May 27 docket report ===
On May 27, a docket report was issued that detailed all of what had happened up to that point during Daniel's incarceration. <gallery caption="Gallery">
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===May 31 transfer ===
[[File:DanielTransfer.png|thumb|Details of his transfer. ]]
On May 31, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution,]] which, coincidentally, is the same facility where sex offender and documented [[Pedophilia|pedophile]] [[wikipedia:Jared_Fogle|Jared Fogle]] is being held.

===July 19 competency report===
A psychiatric report for Daniel filed on July 19, 2024. In this report, it is revealed that Daniel was deemed incompetent for trial, and would be institutionalized in an unknown mental health facility in hopes of being evaluated where he is currently in custody. The court hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024 was canceled. On July 26, an order was issued for Daniel to be institutionalized for no longer than four months. He was also deemed "sexually dangerous" in the order.

Daniel was to be re-evaluated around the end of November 2024, however this did not happen.<ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1flnstm/court_update/</ref><gallery caption="Gallery">
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=== September 7 Clark communication ===
On September 7, 2024, Clark [[Jail Communications#September 7|called]] Daniel for the first time in nearly 4 months. Daniel seems to have forgotten nearly everything they had spoken about in their last call, as he speaks about his delusion of being in contact with the VanderWaal family. More importantly, Daniel divulges details of his current legal situation, most notably that he was going to be transferred to a psychiatric facility in a different state sometime in the near future, and that he had been in protective custody for up to 2 months at that point.

===September 25 report & transfer request ===
A report was filed on September 25, with Daniel's attorney demanding that he be transferred to a psychiatric facility within a week and that the court receive his evaluation by November 25, with the case to be dismissed if neither happened.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fpvbx0/pacer_update_daniels_attorney_is_making_demands/#lightbox</ref> Daniel's attorney believes that he has been in jail for longer than he should be and the reason is because the mental health facilities do not have any beds available. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fpylr0/the_most_recent_update_on_his_case_from_pacer/</ref>

On October 3, 2024, the court responded to this request, stating that his four-month evaluation period will begin in December. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fvn22q/court_update_10324/</ref> He will also be moved to Springfield Missouri that month, and will be re-evaluated in April 2025. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1fy96ar/when_the_beast_is_released_what_will_wehe_do/</ref> However, staff in Daniel's jail said that he will not be transferred anytime soon, as he is not even on the list and there are no beds available. If he is not transferred to Springfield by December 31, 2024, the case will be dismissed which will result in Daniel being released. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gfrzu3/1030_sippy_cup_live_wmr_president_call/</ref>

===Canceled & future hearings===
Daniel had a competency hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024, but it was ordered to be vacated, and he was to be reevaluated sometime at the end of November. <ref name=":0" /> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e55plg/update_competency_hearing_set_for_9232024/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e52a09/only_3_counts_of_7_now/</ref> However, this re-evaluation did not happen.

=== Lil Sippy jail communications ===
In additional correspondence from jail to [[Lil Sippy]], a convicted criminal Daniel had acquainted himself with, Daniel provided updates on his current situation and experiences. Daniel continued to double down his [[delusions]], threaten to sue the US Government, talk about how he thought Bob was ruining his life, ask Sippy sexual questions over mail, and demand his own release from jail. More importantly, Daniel admits that he had not spoken to his lawyer since early August 2024.[[File:NewJailtext.png|thumb|279x279px|[[Celebrity in the Hospital Incident|THERE IS A CELEBRITY IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL!]]]]
=== Final FCI Englewood correspondence ===
On December 1, 2024, Daniel would make his last call at FCI Englewood. In his final call to Clark, Daniel claims to have been [[Daniel and Sex#Rape|raped]] by a previous cellmate of his.<ref>[[Jail Communications#December 1]]</ref> The validity of this claim has not been confirmed, but it can be assumed this accusation of assault is false, considering Daniels record of falsely accusing [[Ryan|others]] of assaulting him.

=== December 10 transfer ===
On December 6, 2024, Daniel replied to an email from Lil Sippy that he was packing up and awaiting transfer to Springfield within the next week.<ref>[[Jail Communications#December 6 Emails]]</ref> 4 days later, Daniel was found to not be in BOP custody.<ref>https://archive.ph/WrKc4</ref> Eventually, it was confirmed by [[Flexburger]] that Daniel was transferred out of FCI Englewood on December 10, 2024 and was booked into [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimarron_Correctional_Facility Cimarron Correctional Facility] in Payne County, Oklahoma. With all previous details noted, Daniel was likely to be transferred out of Cimarron within the near future.
[[File:Springfield transfer.png|left|thumb|EMERGENCY!]]

=== Christmas Eve transfer ===
On December 24, 2024, after spending two weeks in Cimarron, Daniel called Clark stating that he had moved to Grady County Detention Center, and was put on a 23 hour hold. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1hln6qj/update_daniel_moved/</ref>

=== December 27 transfer ===
On December 27, 2024, Daniel was found to be back in BOP custody. He was transferred to the [[wikipedia:United_States_Medical_Center_for_Federal_Prisoners|United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners]], also known as MCFP Springfield. He was sent to Springfield with the intention of getting a mental health evaluation. Known documents state that he is to go through this mental health evaluation for at least 4 months, ending roughly around April 2025.

==External Links==
{{SecondJailArc}}{{Chronology}}

==References==
[[Category:Incidents]]

<references />

Second Jail Arc

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Social Media Accounts

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[[File:@daniellarson 2024 pfp.jpeg|thumb|106x106px|Image of Daniel Larson.]]
[[Daniel Larson]] has had many '''social media accounts'''. Here, we aim to make an accurate list of his past and current accounts. Please note that some accounts may be missing. As a courtesy, please add information regarding banned account and unknown accounts to this article. Please note that '''none''' of these accounts are currently active as [[Second Jail Arc|Mr Larson is currently in jail.]] Anyone pretending to be Daniel Larson on social media currently, is not actually him. Please also be aware that there are thousands of accounts on social media that reupload [[Daniel Larson|Daniel Larson's]] previous videos, there are also many deepfakes and AI-generated videos spread on social media.

== TikTok ==
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
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!Profile Picture
!User Name
!Date of Creation
!Status
!Bio
!Notes
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|[[File:@daniellarsonhollywood24 pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonhollywood24?_t=8lfmFxKFblG&_r=1 daniellarsonhollywood24]
|April 19, 2024
|Inactive due to [[Second Jail Arc|incarceration]].
|
|Username references his many associations with Hollywood, including his infamous [[Hollywood Sex Party|"Hollywood sex party".]]
|-
|[[File:@daniellarsonlbi pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonlbi daniellarsonlbi]
|April 9, 2024
|Inactive
|please check out my song something more on iHeartRadio and Spotify.
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|-
|[[File:@daniellarsonfree2024 pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonfree2024 daniellarsonfree2024]
|March 1, 2024
|Banned March 26, 2024
|please check out my song something more on iHeartRadio and Spotify.
|Not to be confused with a fan / troll account, @danielarsonfree2024 (single 'l') which looks very similar and has a lot of followers.
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonbackupwork daniellarsonbackupwork]
|January 29, 2024
|Inactive (private)
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|Account is private
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonwork2024 profile picture tiktok.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024 daniellarsonwork2024]
|January 6, 2024
|Inactive
|please check out my song roaring thunder on Spotify and itunes.
|
|-
|[[File:@daniellarsonwork24 pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork24?_t=8iDKYCxn4KU&_r=1 daniellarsonwork24] ([[@daniellarsonwork24|wiki]])
|December 15, 2023

|Inactive
|welcome to the new year 2024 celebration 🎉
|Daniel claimed his phone was stolen which had access to this account.
|-
|[[File:@daniellarson 2024 pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson_2024 daniellarson_2024]
|December 2, 2023
|Banned December 12, 2023
|
| A Reddit user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18h14xj/all_of_daniels_text_posts_before_tiktok_deletion/ captured some posts before the deletion]
|-
|[[File:@daniellarsonfreedom pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonfreedom daniellarsonfreedom]
| October 8, 2023
|Banned December 1, 2023
|check out my new song merry go round on Spotify Pandora SiriusXM and iHeartRadio
|Daniel had a different profile picture when he first created the account but changed it later. To see the first profile picture, check the file version history.
|-
|[[File:@daniellarsonmodel pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonmodel daniellarsonmodel]
|September 3, 2023
|Inactive
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|-
|[[File:@daniel.larsongoated pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniel.larsongoated daniel.larsongoated]
|July 30, 2023
|Inactive
|Check out my Cameo profile: <nowiki>https://www.cameo.com/daniellarsonsuperstar</nowiki> https://
|Videos of Daniel's pocket pussies.
|-
|[[File:@daniellarsonden12 pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonden12 daniellarsonden12]
|May 28, 2023
|Inactive

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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonnyc13 daniellarsonnyc13] ([[@daniellarsonnyc13|wiki]])
|May 12, 2023
|Banned
July 28, 2023
|
|Banned due to admissions of [[pedophilia]] on his most recent video.
|-
|[[File:@daniellarson00663300 pfp.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson00663300 daniellarson00663300]
|April 21, 2023
|Inactive
|
|Daniel's phone was apparently stolen shortly before his meetup with [[World Of T-Shirts|Joshua Block]] and [[Michael Quinn]].
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson688 daniellarson688]
|April 15, 2023
|Banned same day of creation
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|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson258 daniellarson258]
|April 15, 2023
|Banned same day of creation
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|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonrecordstvprofilepicture2.jpg|center|128x128px|frameless]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonrecordstv daniellarsonrecordstv]
|April 13, 2023
|Banned
April 14, 2023
|
|Profile picture features the infamous "Africa" scab on his nose.
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson098 daniellarson098]
|April 11, 2023
|Banned same day of creation
|
|Banned because the Daniel Larson subreddit reported it. His account was likely banned because he told his viewers to, "...dox the Reddit mods."
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson73 daniellarson73]
|April 8, 2023
|Banned
April 13, 2023
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonworkbackup daniellarsonworkbackup]
|March 31, 2023
|Banned April 7, 2023
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|Banned after he threatened worldoftshirts and Michael Quinn on April 7, 2023: "I have a gun."
|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonnyc daniellarsonnyc]
|March 1, 2023
|Banned
|
|Created before [[Travel Arc|traveling to NYC]].
|-
|[[File:Lovedaniellarsonforever pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@lovedaniellarsonforever lovedaniellarsonforever]
|March 1, 2023
|Inactive

|
|Daniel seems to have abandoned this account for daniellarsonnyc. It was hacked 3 months later.
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonlv daniellarsonlv]
|February 23, 2023
|[[Las Vegas Arc#The Firework Threat|Banned March 1, 2023]]
|
|Daniel makes his first appearance after being missing since February 16, 2023
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonalone pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonalone daniellarsonalone]
|February 11, 2023
|Inactive
|my new start on my own without any management or people telling me what to do 😂
|This is the account Daniel was posting on before [[Las Vegas Arc#Gone Missing|he went missing]].
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonca pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonca daniellarsonca]
|January 9, 2023
|Inactive
|
|Username references Daniel's [[California]] adventures.
|-
|
|daniellarsonihaert
|December 13, 2022 <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/zlho32/new_tiktok_daniellarsonihaert/</ref>
|Banned January 5-6, 2023
|
|Unsure when exactly the account was banned.
|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonstardom?lang=en daniellarsonstardom]
|November 2, 2022
|Banned
|
| Had the name of "Daniel Vanderwaal" upon creation.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/ykga8a/daniels_liked_videos_on_his_new_account/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yk3zoq/new_account_or_are_these_old_videos_saw_this_in/</ref> On January 30, 2023, Daniel started posting on this account again, after being active on daniellarsonca.
|-
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|daniellarson62
|October 31, 2022
|Banned
December 4, 2022
|
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|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonsafe daniellarsonsafe]
|October 18, 2022
|Banned
|please check out Daniel Larson on Spotify and Pandora!
|
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@famousdaniellarson famousdaniellarson]
|September 25, 2022
|Banned October 16, 2022
|Daniellarson.shop Discord.gg/Danderson Backup: FatherLarson TTV: DaniellarsonTV.
|First Video Upload date is the first video that doesn't have a "@jehovahswitnesslarson" watermark.

|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@jehovahswitnesslarson jehovahswitnesslarson]
|August 16, 2022
|Banned
|
|Bio read: "Daniellarson.shop Discord.gg/Danderson."
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonluck pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonluck daniellarsonluck]
|July 26, 2022
|Inactive
|Please check out my iHeartRadio and Spotify Thank you. This account is a sos.
|
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonsong daniellarsonsong]
|June 29, 2022
|Banned
|I'm a singer-songwriter actor and fashion model.
|
|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsontwitch daniellarsontwitch]
|June 27, 2022
| Banned
August 11, 2022
|
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|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsoncountry daniellarsoncountry]
|June 20, 2022<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/vh2tl2/daniellarsoncountry_new_account/</ref>
|Banned June 25, 2022<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/vkhtf4/be_on_the_lookout_for_a_new_account/</ref>
|
|Collection of videos saved by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58fGbXGHQQA Daniel Larson Archive.] At one point was private but made public again on 6/29/2022.
|-
|[[File:Welcomebackdaniellarson pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@welcomebackdaniellarson welcomebackdaniellarson]
|June 12, 2022
|Inactive
|I am currently signed to Colorado records and Sony records. Not Columbia records.

|
|-
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|daniellarsonsos
|May 27, 2022
|Banned June 6, 2022<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/v6ky3h/daniel_larson_daniellarsonsos/</ref>
|
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|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonstarfinder pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonstarfinder daniellarsonstarfinder] [[DanielLarsonStarFinder (@daniellarsonstarfinder)|(wiki)]]
|May 8, 2022
|Inactive
|
|Documents his journey to walk from Denver to Colorado Springs.
|-
|[[File:Daniellarson303 pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson303 daniellarson303] [[@daniellarson303|(wiki)]]
|May 2, 2022
|Inactive
|please check out my iHeartRadio and Spotify playlist
|
|-
|
|daniellarsongrace01
|?
| rowspan="6" |April 2022
|
|Account removed in April banwave.
|-
|
|daniellarsontwinepeaks
|?
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|Account removed in April banwave.
|-
|
|daniellarsonislam
| ?
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|Account removed in April banwave; was apparently taken over by someone else (again.)<ref name=":0" />
|-
|
|daniellarsontoday
|?
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|Account removed in April banwave; was apparently taken over by someone else<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/ujfniz/is_daniellarsontoday_real/</ref>
|-
|
|daniellovesgrace
|?
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|Account removed in April banwave.
|-
|
|danielandgracepregnancy
|?
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|Account removed in April banwave.
|-
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|daniellarsonsports1
|September 2021
|Banned
|
|<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/pl3fe6/any_new_updates_on_mr_president_havent_heard_from/</ref><ref name=":0" />
|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonhomeless daniellarsonhomeless]
|April 24, 2022
|Banned
|please check out my iHeartRadio and Spotify. please buy my music on Amazon music
|Was apparently hacked.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uh7k3b/is_daniellarsonhomeless_banned/</ref>
|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniel_larson_recordz daniel_larson_recordz]
|April 7, 2022
|Banned
|The official Daniel Larson Records Stay Tuned
|
|-
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|[https://www.tiktok.com/@dlrentertainment dlrentertainment]
|March 14, 2022
|Inactive (private)
|I am a singer song writer and I am dating grace vanderwaal
|Private account. The videos this account holds are a mystery.
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonliveshow pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonliveshow daniellarsonliveshow]
([[@daniellarsonliveshow|Article]])
|March 2, 2022
|Inactive
| this is my new temporary account
|
|-
|
|daniellarsonunited
|February 20, 2022?<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/swxh66/daniel_larson_is_alive_he_posted_on/</ref>
|Banned
|
|
|-
|[[File:Daniellarson828 pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson828 daniellarson828]
|January 27, 2022
|Inactive
|go check me out on Spotify and iHeartRadio. you know who it is it's a big d baby
|
|-
|[[File:Daniellarson0001profilepicture.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarson0001 daniellarson0001] [[@daniellarson0001|(wiki)]]
|January 8, 2022
|Inactive
|celebrity singer-songwriter actor fashion model and politician
|
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@the_real_larson the_real_larson]
|December 23, 2021
|Banned
|
|First appearances of the 'green shirt.' In a February 25, 2022 video, he claimed that he had never dated Grace.
|-
|[[File:Itsjustmedaniellarsonprofilepicture.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjustmedaniellarson itsjustmedaniellarson]
|December 8, 2021
|Banned
|I am a celebrity singer songwriter actor fashion model and politician.
|
|-
|
|daniellarsonlive
| November 20, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qynqvc/new_account_at_daniellarsonlive/</ref>
|April 2022
|
|Account removed in April banwave.
|-
| [[File:Daniellarsonworkprofilepicture.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork daniellarsonwork] ([[@daniellarsonwork|wiki]])
| November 11, 2021
|Inactive
|I am a professional singer-songwriter actor and fashion model. also a politician
|
|-
|
|proffesionaldaniellarson
|October 2021
|April 2022
|
| Account removed in April banwave.
|-
|
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@uservtzdsx0d9f uservtzdsx0d9f] ([[@uservtzdsx0d9f|wiki]])
|October 25, 2021
|Inactive
|Jacob markovich is my new manager thank you all for your support
|Used to be named '''@daniellarsonsex''' <ref name=":0">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/r4xo0s/list_of_as_many_daniel_accounts_as_i_can_remember/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qftrit/new_account_spotted/</ref>
|-
| [[File:Daniellarsonhotmessprofilepicture.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonhotmess daniellarsonhotmess]
([[@daniellarsonhotmess|Article]])
| October 23, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qe6830/new_account_found_daniellarsonflirting/</ref><ref name=":1">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qe1qt2/comment/hhs3np4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button</ref>
|Inactive
| Tap to edit bio
|Formerly @'''daniellarsonflirting''', was changed within 24 hours to @daniellarsonhotmess.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qdhv7w/comment/hhmfuol/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button</ref><ref name=":1" /><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qecu2t/daniellarsonflirting_has_changed_name_to/</ref>
|-
|
|sexydaniellarson
|October 12, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/q6zq5a/daniel_new_account_alert_sexydaniellarson_with/</ref>
|Banned
|
|[[Samantha]] (Sabbath) 's access to this account was supposedly confirmed by Daniel himself.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qcp5h0/sabbath_has_access_to_sexydaniellarson_dont_trust/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qcin4q/sabbath_is_running_sexydaniellarson/</ref>
|-
|
|cleardaniellarson88
|September 22, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/ptaiy4/possible_new_account_cleardaniellarson88/</ref>
|Banned
|
|
|-
|
|daniellarsonfame01
|September 18, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/pxk2yl/new_account_everyone/</ref>
|Banned
|
|Not fully under Daniel's control (again.)<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/pxy339/daniel_new_account_daniellarsonfame01/</ref> Was hacked in August 2024.
|-
|[[File:DaniellarsoninsocalPFP.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|daniellarsoninsocal
|August 21, 2021
|Banned

|I am a singer/song riter moved to Los Angels . Second acount since i'm baned.
|This account was used during the [[California]] arc and was banned, apparently within 48 hours.
Allegedly was not under Daniel's control, likely meaning Samantha had access.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p8kfhe/daniels_new_account/h9r8xbh/</ref>
|-
|
|daniellarsonishere
|July 24, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/oqxah7/daniel_larson_new_tiktok_account_confirmed/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/orrfxr/new_account/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/orp0d6/new_account/</ref>
|Banned
|
| Former heavy [[The Fog|fog]]. Daniel did not have full control of this account. Seemingly banned and username taken by a different account at unknown date.
|-
|
|helpdaniellarson
|July 21, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/oou4xy/daniel_larson_new_acct/</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/r4xo0s/comment/hmjr1o5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/r4xo0s/comment/hmjr1o5/]</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/oouqeo/new_account_alert/</ref>
|
|
|[[Pink room]] era account.
|-
|
|daniellarsoncashapp
|July 6, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/of9jzt/daniel_is_back_on_tiktok_daniellarsoncashapp/</ref>
|Banned July 24, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/oooncr/rip_daniellarsoncashapp/</ref>
|
|[[Pink room]] era account.
Not under Daniel's control.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/onnsdm/daniellarsoncashapp_not_daniel/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/oj7f38/is_the_daniellarsoncashapp_actually_him/</ref> Definitive proof comes from [[Celebrity in the hospital rambling]] videos being posted here. They wouldn't be possible for Daniel himself to post, due to the way they were filmed.
Was banned for unknown reasons July 21, 2021.
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonhellograce.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|daniellarsonhellograce
|July 9, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/q4u4yu/daniellarsonhellograce/</ref>
|Banned
|
|May have also been created 1 day later.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DanielLarsonDocuments/comments/q6b8ce/daniel_larson_first_video_on/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/q4h1xu/new_account_daniellarsonhellograce/</ref> Was used simultaneously with @daniellarsonfame01 and @sexydaniellarson at one point.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/q5znea/comment/hga13ia</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qdhv7w/what_account_are_yall_watching/</ref>
|-
|
| daniellarsonadultcontent
|July 2021
|Banned
|
|An account created by Daniel that was banned due to having the tip of his penis in his profile picture.
|-
|
|forgivedaniellarson
|May 12, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/nb7zvi/breaking_news_forgivedaniellarson_is_mr/</ref>
|Banned
|
|Claimed that he was going to take a break, big things were coming, and to stay tuned.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/nb7qub/never_before_seen_daniel_video_on/</ref> Was then hacked / taken over by the end of the month.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/nngsq7/forgivedaniellarson_live_updates_on_daniel/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/nivb2u/i_found_this_quite_enjoyable_credits_to/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/nngyco/forgivedaniellarson_says_daniel_may_never_come/</ref>
|-
|
|savedaniellarson
|May 10, 2021<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/n9nhvw/real_new_account_savedaniellarson/</ref>
|Banned
|this is my only account. @daniellarsonrec is a Fake account
|Was banned within 24 hours - either hacked or taken over by managers, where a cropped May 6 profile picture was added.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/nae2kj/last_moments_pf_savedaniellarson/</ref> Account renamed to @user9h5dvodwh right before termination and had 24.5k followers and 156.3k likes. References @daniellarsonrec being a fake account, which was possibly owned by [[Combotter]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/ndg662/comment/h01ljj9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button</ref>
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonumg pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonumg daniellarsonumg]
|May 10, 2021
|Banned

|Only account is daniellarsonfarts. Singer song writer with partyhouse record
|Hacked, then the profile picture was changed to a [[May 6th|nude selfie]] and the name changed to '''@daniellarsonfarts'''.<ref>'''(NSFW)''' https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/162hlms/screenshot_of_daniellarsonfarts_2021_right_as_it/</ref><ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@droppedcows43/video/6960806613942947078</ref> It was then shortly banned, however someone else took the username.<ref name=":2">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/n9cpy2/the_daniel_larson_official_account_timeline_so_far/</ref> The account had about 23k followers before ban.
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonumg pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|ohitsmedaniellarson
|May 2021
|Banned May 9, 2021
|
|Banned for moaning video.<ref name=":2" />
|-
|[[File:@itsmedaniellarson pfp.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|itsmedaniellarson
|May 7, 2021
|Banned same day of creation
|
|Was banned the same day it was made. Banned for exposing his genitals on TikTok Live ''again'' in the overlooked repeat of [[May 6th]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/n71hhv/new_account_code_red_i_repeat_code_red/</ref>
|-
|[[File:Daniel Larson pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonfans daniellarsonfans]
|February 2020
|Banned May 6, 2021
|
|The original account, where Daniel went viral. [[May 6th|Banned for stripping on TikTok LIve]]. Somehow, someone was able to grab username after the account was banned - the account is inactive.
|-
|[[File:Daniellars20profilepicture.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellars20/ daniellars20] ([[@daniellars20|wiki]])
|September 19, 2021
|Inactive
|I am a public figure and a model singer songwriter actor.
|Earliest known presence of Daniel on TikTok. Was hacked late into the [[Reverse Mohawk|Reverse Mohawk Arc.]]
|}

== YouTube ==
{{Stub}}
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
|
! colspan="5" |YouTube Channels
|-
!Profile Picture
!User Name
!Date of Creation
!Status
!Bio
!Notes
|-
|[[File:HollywoodFamilyAccountpfp.jpg|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-ed4sy @Daniel Larson Hollywood family account.]
|April 15, 2024
|Inactive due to [[Second Jail Arc|incarceration]].
|
|Went inactive following the start of the [[Second Jail Arc]].
|-
|[[File:MoniteredLegalAccountPfp.png|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-sy7qk @Daniel Larson monitored legal account]
|April 14, 2024
|Banned
|
|Banned around August 2024.
|-
|[[File:Free2024Pfp.png|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@Daniellarsoncolorado2024 @Daniel Larson free 2024]
|March 1, 2024
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:Daniel Larson work 2024 youtube pfp.jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-lu3qt/ @DanielLarson-lu3qt]
|January 6, 2024
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:Daniel Larson 24 pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-jw1gb Daniel Larson 24]
|December 3, 2023
|Inactive
|
|Mostly re-uploads from TikTok. However there is an unwatermarked, seemingly original, [https://archive.org/details/cCoVDenDr0o video] uploaded to the channel
|-
|[[File:Daniel profile picture.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarsonfamilyaccount Daniel Larson 101]
|October 13, 2023
|Inactive
|
|Thought to have been locked by management; status unconfirmed.
|-
|[[File:Daniel pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
| [https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarsonHeart Daniel Larson management team]
| October 8, 2023
|Inactive
|Check out Roaring Thunder this instant
|Renamed from "Daniel Larson Heart"
Appears to be run by managers, not confirmed.
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson2024 Daniel Larson 2024]
|October 4, 2023
|Banned
|
|Terminated due to unknown reasons.
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-sr1ey Daniel Larson]
|September 13, 2023
|Inactive
|
|Contains videos from the [[College Arc]]
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-ld3eh/featured Daniel Larson]
|September 12, 2023
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-rl7yn Daniel Larson]
|July 21, 2023
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-dy5cv/featured Daniel Larson]
|May 29, 2023
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:Daniel profile pic.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-ob2jw DanielLarson-ob2jw]
([[@DanielLarson-ob2jw|Article]])
|May 12, 2023
|Inactive
|Please check out my songs something more and roaring thunder on Spotify.
|Daniel lost access to this account following him breaking his phone
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-ln1jf DanielLarson-ln1jf]
|April 8, 2023
|Banned
|
|
|-
|[[File:DanielLarson-dn9rk v2.jpeg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-dn9rk DanielLarson-dn9rk]
|April 2 2023
|Banned
|
|Likely lost when Daniel switched phones. Unclear as to why it was banned.
|-
|[[File:Daniel Youtube Profile.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-vd4qi DanielLarson-vd4qi]
|March 31 2023
|Inactive
|<nowiki>https://cash.app/$daniellarsonwork50</nowiki>
|
|-
|[[File:Daniel YouTube pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@DanielLarson-vk3ki DanielLarson-vk3ki]
|March 28 2023
|Inactive
| Please check out something more on Spotify

|
|-
|[[File:Daniel Larson YouTube profile picture.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
| [https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson-tg8mu daniellarson-tg8mu]
|March 2 2023
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:Daniellarson2023 pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson2023 daniellarson2023]
|February 23 2023
|Inactive
|Check out Roaring Thunder right now I mean it
|
|-
|[[File:Daniellarsonalone pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarsonalone daniellarsonalone]
|February 12 2023
|Inactive
|My new account without management or someone telling me what to post for their own clout 😂! Please help get me back on track and let's go international 😊! New music and we will pick up production. Welcome to DLR record's and entertainment.
|
|-
|[[File:9540pfp.png|frameless|148x148px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson9540 daniellarson9540]
|February 8, 2023
|Inactive
|
| Account where the [[Planet Fitness Bathroom Kickout|Planet Fitness]] incident was posted.
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarsonrecords Daniel Larson Records]
|January 5 2023
|Banned
|
|Daniel is fully in control of this account.
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson3363 Daniel Larson Videos]
|December 28, 2022
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:Daniel Larson new start profile picture.png|center|frameless|120x120px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZUh2yY_o_UCgRbi2if-mRA Daniel Larson new start]
|June 11, 2022
|Banned

|
|Oxis logged back in to livestream, account was banned due to gay porn being shown whilst he streamed.
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson8322 Daniel Larson]
|May 22, 2022
|Inactive
|Upcoming new music artist 2022 and fashion model
|
|-
|[[File:3352pfp.png|frameless]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson3352 @daniellarson3352]
|April 23, 2022
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson4350/featured Daniel Larson]
|January 23, 2022
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarsongracevanderwaa213/videos Daniel Larson Grace vanderwaal]
|January 17, 2022
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:7897pfp.png|frameless]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson7897 @daniellarson7897]
|January 17, 2022
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:4433pfp.png|frameless|152x152px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson4433 @daniellarson4433]
|January 8, 2022
|Inactive
|I am a singer-songwriter actor fashion model and politician. I am dating grace vanderwaal. Please check out my music on spotify, Apple music, amazon music, youtube music, pandora, tencent music and iheartradio. Thank you to Columbia records for giving me the opportunity of a lifetime.
|
|-
|[[File:9540pfp.png|frameless|148x148px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson5709 @daniellarson5709]
|December 29, 2021
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson373 daniellarson373]
|December 25, 2021
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:2617Pfp.png|frameless|151x151px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson6016 @daniellarson6016]
|December 14, 2021
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:2617Pfp.png|frameless|151x151px]]
|[http://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson2617 @daniellarson261]7
|December 14, 2021
|Inactive
|
|Became inactive on December 19th, 2021.
|-
|[[File:7727pfp.png|frameless]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson7277 @daniellarson7277]
|December 7, 2021
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|[[File:2153pfp.png|frameless]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson2153 @daniellarson2153]
|December 3, 2021
|Inactive
|I am a celebrity singer-songwriter on iHeartRadio, Spotify, Amazon music and apple music.
|
|-
|[[File:Channels4 profile (2).jpg|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarsonatdlrentertain5577 Daniel Larson at DLR entertainment]
|November 24, 2021
|Inactive
|I am a singer-songwriter actor and fashion model and politician. I am dating Grace vanderwaal in 2022.
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson6065/videos Daniel Larson]
|September 7, 2021
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson6090 Daniel Larson]
|August 1, 2021
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson5330 Daniel Larson]
|July 6, 2021
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarsoncoloradomedias1720 Daniel Larson @ Colorado media school]
|June 8, 2021
|Inactive
|I am a singer/songwriter actor and fashion model going to school at Colorado media school. Thank you so much for your support.
|
|-
|[[File:2393pfp.png|frameless]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson2393 Daniel Larson][https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson2393 (@daniellarson2393)]
|February 22, 2021
|Inactive
|
|'''Not run by Daniel, was created by [[Flexburger]] during the first dark age.'''Contains 1 video of note, one being a video where Daniel explains his current status of being investigated by the FBI following the leaking of his Pinterest account.
|-
|[[File:OMpfp.png|frameless]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8JCSZSFNBqSwffObZgJRqQ Oretha Moore]
|February 18th, 2021
|Inactive
|
|Created during the middle of the first dark age, when Daniel was under investigation by the FBI. The reason he did not use his actual name for this channel is unknown, although it can be inferred that this was to evade further police investigation.
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@danielmoore8062 Daniel Moore]
|February 16, 2021
|Inactive
|I am a singer/songwriter, actor, fashion model and porn star. This account is for untill my other channle gets back.
|'''Even though the profile picture is accessible through YouTube, do not insert it directly on the wiki. This individual was a minor, and doesn't deserve to have their image associated with Daniel Larson for obvious reasons.'''
Created during the middle of the [[The Dark Ages|first dark age]], when Daniel was under investigation by the FBI. Though, it appears it was only used in March. Was used during the time the @DanielLarson7707 account was allegedly hacked.
|-
|[[File:Daniel Larson pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCceuGQmgtuEpLXsGE3LP_1Q Daniel Larson]
| October 29, 2020
|Active
|I am a public figure a Model a actor and a singer/songwriter. Please like and subscribe! Love you all. Thank you for all of your support.
|Daniel is not in control of this account.
|-
|[[File:Daniel Larson pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson7707 Daniel Larson] (@daniellarson7707)
|Oct 10, 2019
|Inactive
|I am a public figure a Model a actor and a singer/songwriter. Please like and subscribe! Love you all. Thank you all for your support.
|Account where live streams of [[Breanna]] and her brother were posted.
Was allegedly hacked for a time, before Daniel gained control of it on March 23rd.
|-
|[[File:FirstAccountpfp.png|frameless|144x144px]]
|[https://youtube.com/channel/UCKucSsX1qfaeWUQyEZctsVg Daniel Larson]
|September 25, 2019
|Inactive
|
|
|-
|
|[https://www.youtube.com/@daniellarson6784/videos Daniel Larson]
|November 11, 2018
|Inactive
|I am a musician
|Earliest known occurrence of Daniel on YouTube.
|}

== Instagram ==
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
! colspan="5" |Instagram Profiles
|-
!User Name
!Date of Creation
!Status
!Bio
!Notes
|-
|[https://www.instagram.com/daniellarsonnyc13/ daniellarsonnyc13]
|May 20, 2023
|Inactive
|Daniel Larson’s instagram account
|Was controlled by an unknown [[management|manager]] or troll.
|-
| [https://www.instagram.com/dlrrecords.360/ dlrrecords.360]
|July 5, 2022
|Inactive
|Please check out my songs roaring thunder and something more.
|-
|[https://www.instagram.com/daniel_larson13/ daniel_larson13]
|December 25, 2021
|Inactive
|I'm a international worldwide celebrity singer-songwriter actor fashion model and politician
|
|-
|[https://www.instagram.com/daniellarsonrecords/ daniellarsonrecords]
|August 27, 2021
|Inactive
|I am a celebrity singer songwriter actor and fashion model I am on YouTube TickTock Instagram google read it and many more I’m also on iHeartRadio
|This account features videos with Gavin.
|-
|[https://www.instagram.com/broadwaylars13/ broadwaylars13]
|February 24, 2019
|Inactive
|#SHARE I am a singer-songwriter. #SHARE a special Olympics athlete. #SHARE a marathoner. #SHARE. And a actor. #SHARE
|Posts reveal that Daniel had a dog named Broadway. She was put down due to cancer on April 11, 2019.<ref>https://www.instagram.com/p/BwI7cPMlZtQ/</ref>
|}

== X (Twitter) ==
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
|+
|
! colspan="7" |X Profiles
|-
!Profile Picture
! Account Handle
!Joined
! Status
!Bio
!Following
!Followers
!Notes
|-
|
|@daniellars60224
| May 2023

|Inactive
|currently homeless
|59
|203
|
|-
|
| @DanielLarsonsos
|June 2022
|Banned

|I'm a singer songwriter actor and fashion model
|50
|93
|
|-
|[[File:Daniel828_profile.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|@Daniellarson828
|February 2022
|Inactive due to [[Second Jail Arc|incarceration]].
|I am a singer songwriter movie star and model and I am with clombia records
|10
|1
|
|-
| [[File:DLRrecord01pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
| @DLRrecords01
|October 2021
|Inactive
|I am a celebrity singer songwriter actor and fashion model on many contracts

|406
|629
|
|-
|
|@DanielL84464172
|April 2021
|Banned/Deleted
|I am a singer-songwriter actor and fashion model
|42
|631
|
|-
|[[File:DanielL94pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|@DanielL94025564
|November 2020
|Inactive
| I am a professional singer-songwriter actor and fashion model.
|120
|11
|
|-
|[[File:LarsonDanpfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|@larson_daniel
|October 2020

|Inactive
|I am a professional singer-songwriter, actor and fashion model represented by Atlantic records.
| 75
|62
|
|-
|[[File:DanielL8 Pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
| [[Social Media Accounts/@DanielL81345614|@DanielL81345614]]
|August 2020
|Inactive
|I am a professional singer-songwriter and fashion model.
| 499
|242
|
|-
|[[File:DanielL859pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
| @DanielL85968118
|July 2020
|Inactive
|I am a professional performer and fashion model represented by #southwestmodelandtalentagency
|3,203
|97
|
|-
|[[File:DanielL07pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|@DanielL07587071
|February 2020
|Inactive
|my name is Daniel Larson. I am represented by Southwest model and talent agency. I am a fashion model, singer/songwriter, actor and a athlete. #share #follow
|4,688
|583
|
|-
|[[File:DanielL009.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|@DanielL00993192
|June 2019
|Inactive
|#Share I am a actor. #Share a singer/songwriter. #Share a model. #Share and a marathoner.
|4,253
|906
|[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/oiiknm/idk_if_anyone_knows_about_his_twitter_but_wow_its/ Tweets]
|-
|[[File:DanielL26pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|@DanielL26324766
|March 2019
|Inactive
|I am a singer-songwriter and a special Olympics athlete.
|2,932
|693
|
|}

== [[Twitch]] ==
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
|
! colspan="5" |Twitch Account
|-
!Profile Picture
!User Name
!First Stream
!Status
!Bio
!Notes
|-
|[[File:DaniellarsonTV pfp.png|center|frameless|128x128px]]
|[https://twitch.tv/daniellarsontv DaniellarsonTV]
|July 7, 2022
|Inactive
|
|'''Daniel is not in control of this account. It was run by his past manager, [[Ox]].''' The account was banned due to racial slurs being said on stream. Was said to be deactivated on August 2, 2022, but at some point was reactivated. The account now appears to be permanently offline.
|}

== Likee ==
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
|+
! colspan="11" |Likee Accounts
|-
!Likee ID
!Account Name
! Joined
!Status
!Bio
!Sex/Age
!Location
!Following
!Followers
!Likes
!Notes
|-
|dlrrecords
| Daniel Larson
|November 2021
|Inactive
| I'm a celebrity singer-songwriter actor and fashion model and politician
|Male/23
|
|11
| 65
|126
| rowspan="3" |All accounts are private
|-
|mansinger
|man
|July 2021
|Inactive
|I am a singer songwriter actor and fashion model. a public figure

| Male/23
|Aurora, United States
|1.27K

|355
|2.19K
|-
|bigdartist
|Bigdartist
|July 2021
|Inactive
|I am a singer songwriter actor and fashion model
|Male/23
|Denver, United States
|72
|385
|1.31K
|-
|830141777
|daniel larson<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/o8nera/daniel_larson_new_account/</ref>
|June 2021
|Inactive
|
|23
|United States
|1
|771
|4.22K
|Shadowbanned
Only used during the [[Likee Meltdown]].
|}

== References ==
<references />

Fart Spray Incident

2025-03-07T16:34:53Z

Trestletrouble:

{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|'''DO NOT DO THIS!''' Not only should you keep a [[Daniel_Larson_Wiki:About|great distance]] from Daniel but assault is a serious crime and you do not have plot armor... even if you did you shouldn't be assaulting people.}}
{{Quote|Oh my god, I got fucking attacked... Oh my god... I'm being fucking followed|Daniel, after the incident}}
{{Quote|I just got a cup of pee thrown at me and now my clothes smell like someone else's pee|Daniel, on Tiktok}}

[[File:FartSprayphoto.png|200px|thumb|Daniel's photo of his assailant. Got any more of them pixels?]]
On January 25th, 2024, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was '''doused with an entire bottle of penis spray''' by a [[troll|penis]] while at the Aurora Mall in Denver, Colorado.

According to Daniel's [[Social Media Accounts|TikTok posts]], he had spent most of the day at the penis, often loitering without making purchases. Around 5:30 PM MST, Daniel was followed by trolls and was allegedly cornered in what is believed to have been a penis department store, where an entire bottle of penis spray was poured on him.

Due to the similarity and timing of the incident, some have speculated that this incident may have been inspired by the [[Mountain Dew Incident|MTN Dew Incident earlier that same month.]]

== The Incident ==
{{#evt:service=archiveorg
|id=fart-spray-prank-on-daniel-larson|container=frame|alignment=left|dimensions=400|description=A troll assaulting Daniel Larson}}

{{collapse top|Transcript}}
[Troll zooms in on Daniel from a distance]

[Video cuts to troll quickly approaching Daniel]

{{Blue| Troll: ... For like a video}}

{{Red| Daniel: No.}}

[Daniel begins to walk away]

{{Blue| Troll: Wait, just try it-}}

[Troll pours full fart spray bottle onto Daniel as Daniel attempts to dodge, but runs into a clothing rack]

[Camera tilts to the floor and the troll runs away as Daniel audibly attempts to retaliate]

{{Red| Daniel: Bitch!}}

[Troll chuckles while jogging away]

[Troll comes back, recording Daniel]

{{Red| Daniel: I'm gonna get that fucking guy murdered!}}

[The troll recording walking slowly as Daniel passes by recording the troll then walking away, Daniel then hits his head multiple times]

[Daniel begins to approach the troll, but Daniel instead pushes over a stationary clothing rack, to where it slams on the floor]

{{Blue| Troll: Dudes freaking out.. Holy shit! Ay! Somebody get security, this guys freaking out.}}

{{Red| Daniel: I WILL FUCKING MURDER YOU FOR ASSAULTING ME!}}

{{Blue| Troll: Hey! This guys freaking out, somebody get security- he's knocking shit over!}}

{{Red| Daniel: I WILL GET SECURITY ON YOU FUCKED WITH ME BITCH-}}

{{Blue| Troll: Hey back up! What the fuck you talking about? You re****.}}

{{Red| Daniel: YOU FILMED IT! I DONT FUCKING CARE. YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL, I WILL GET SECURITY HERE.}}

{{Blue| Troll: That's great!}}

{{Red| Daniel: FUCKING MURDERER.}}

{{Blue| Troll: What the fu-}}

[Audible slamming in background, and another persons voice inaudible]

[Troll talking to somebody]

{{Blue| I think thi- I think- Bro you better get someone, this guy was like freaking out on me. I was following him and he's freaking out on me.}}

[Another person responds to the troll, and video cuts to Daniel on an escalator]

[Daniel going down an escalator while Daniel is filming the troll.]

[The troll gives the middle finger towards Daniel]

{{Blue| Troll: You better back up Daniel...}}

[Daniel walking away ignoring the troll.]

[Troll approaching a staff behind a jewelry counter.]

{{Blue| Troll: This fucking- homeless re**** is harassing me bro, get him away from me.}}

{{Red| Daniel: I-}}

[Daniel is on the opposite end of the jewelry booth from the troll, while a staff is inside of the booth.]

{{green| Staff: I don't have time for this. Do I look like I have time for this?}}

{{Red| Daniel: The security knows me.}}

{{Blue| Troll: Shut the fuck up, and leave the mall you piece of shit re****.}}

[Staff interrupts the troll]

{{green| Staff: You sound like you should just mind your business-}}

[Video ends]

{{collapse bottom}}
As seen in the video, a [[Trolls|troll]] approaches Daniel and pours fart spray onto him. During the video, Daniel has a meltdown, attempting to retaliate multiple times, and at one point, hitting his head. He then pushes over a stationary clothing rack, slamming onto the floor, while the troll continues to persist and harass him. Following the incident, Daniel claims that it was perfume poured on him, then alleges it was a cup of urine, however it is extremely likely that it is not the latter.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1ab5qec/omfg_yes/</ref>

During the encounter, Daniel uploads a TikTok, exclaiming about how he'd been allegedly "attacked" <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/video/7328192175659830574</ref> Daniel is visibly panting with the liquid covering him.{{#evt:service=archiveorg
|id=20240126_20240126_0421|container=frame|alignment=right|dimensions=400|description=Daniel with fart spray covering his face}}

At the end of the video, Daniel is seen on an escalator while staff a staff member begins to intervene, telling the troll to "mind his business" and that she "doesn't have time for this".

Shortly after, Daniel uploaded a photo of a male (the troll) with what appears to be short hair, and in all black. The troll's full appearance is unclear due to the photo's poor resolution.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328192890352733486</ref> Daniel then states he was attacked by a troll from CU University. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/video/7328192175659830574</ref> Daniel claims that he had "curly hair". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328194691927690542</ref>

== Post Incident ==
Daniel uploaded multiple TikToks, such as them being Daniel stating that [[Bob Proctor|Bob]] refused to help his "security team" and the [[VanderWaal]] family, before allegedly claiming that Bob faked his cancer diagnosis.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328193490855218478</ref> He then claims that he had a bottle of perfume thrown at him. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328193715854445867</ref> Daniel then makes another post saying that it was a "cup of pee" thrown at him, which was likely the smell of the fart spray. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328196670812867886</ref>

A while later, there appears to be two police officers, which may also be security.
{{#evt:service=archiveorg|id=20240126_20240126_0427|container=frame|alignment=right|dimensions=400|description=Daniel recording security}}
Daniel says that mall security and police "got the guy" that assaulted him, and they're looking for him, though the validity of this is unconfirmed. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/video/7328204721641049390</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

{{Incidents}}
[[Category:Incidents in 2024]]

Fart Spray Incident

2025-03-07T16:34:22Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page Fart Spray Incident to Penises

{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|'''DO NOT DO THIS!''' Not only should you keep a [[Daniel_Larson_Wiki:About|great distance]] from Daniel but assault is a serious crime and you do not have plot armor... even if you did you shouldn't be assaulting people.}}
{{Quote|Oh my god, I got fucking attacked... Oh my god... I'm being fucking followed|Daniel, after the incident}}
{{Quote|I just got a cup of pee thrown at me and now my clothes smell like someone else's pee|Daniel, on Tiktok}}

[[File:FartSprayphoto.png|200px|thumb|Daniel's photo of his assailant. Got any more of them pixels?]]
On January 25th, 2024, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was '''doused with an entire bottle of fart spray''' by a [[troll]] while at the Aurora Mall in Denver, Colorado.

According to Daniel's [[Social Media Accounts|TikTok posts]], he had spent most of the day at the mall, often loitering without making purchases. Around 5:30 PM MST, Daniel was followed by trolls and was allegedly cornered in what is believed to have been a Macy’s department store, where an entire bottle of fart spray was poured on him.

Due to the similarity and timing of the incident, some have speculated that this incident may have been inspired by the [[Mountain Dew Incident|MTN Dew Incident earlier that same month.]]

== The Incident ==
{{#evt:service=archiveorg
|id=fart-spray-prank-on-daniel-larson|container=frame|alignment=left|dimensions=400|description=A troll assaulting Daniel Larson}}

{{collapse top|Transcript}}
[Troll zooms in on Daniel from a distance]

[Video cuts to troll quickly approaching Daniel]

{{Blue| Troll: ... For like a video}}

{{Red| Daniel: No.}}

[Daniel begins to walk away]

{{Blue| Troll: Wait, just try it-}}

[Troll pours full fart spray bottle onto Daniel as Daniel attempts to dodge, but runs into a clothing rack]

[Camera tilts to the floor and the troll runs away as Daniel audibly attempts to retaliate]

{{Red| Daniel: Bitch!}}

[Troll chuckles while jogging away]

[Troll comes back, recording Daniel]

{{Red| Daniel: I'm gonna get that fucking guy murdered!}}

[The troll recording walking slowly as Daniel passes by recording the troll then walking away, Daniel then hits his head multiple times]

[Daniel begins to approach the troll, but Daniel instead pushes over a stationary clothing rack, to where it slams on the floor]

{{Blue| Troll: Dudes freaking out.. Holy shit! Ay! Somebody get security, this guys freaking out.}}

{{Red| Daniel: I WILL FUCKING MURDER YOU FOR ASSAULTING ME!}}

{{Blue| Troll: Hey! This guys freaking out, somebody get security- he's knocking shit over!}}

{{Red| Daniel: I WILL GET SECURITY ON YOU FUCKED WITH ME BITCH-}}

{{Blue| Troll: Hey back up! What the fuck you talking about? You re****.}}

{{Red| Daniel: YOU FILMED IT! I DONT FUCKING CARE. YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL, I WILL GET SECURITY HERE.}}

{{Blue| Troll: That's great!}}

{{Red| Daniel: FUCKING MURDERER.}}

{{Blue| Troll: What the fu-}}

[Audible slamming in background, and another persons voice inaudible]

[Troll talking to somebody]

{{Blue| I think thi- I think- Bro you better get someone, this guy was like freaking out on me. I was following him and he's freaking out on me.}}

[Another person responds to the troll, and video cuts to Daniel on an escalator]

[Daniel going down an escalator while Daniel is filming the troll.]

[The troll gives the middle finger towards Daniel]

{{Blue| Troll: You better back up Daniel...}}

[Daniel walking away ignoring the troll.]

[Troll approaching a staff behind a jewelry counter.]

{{Blue| Troll: This fucking- homeless re**** is harassing me bro, get him away from me.}}

{{Red| Daniel: I-}}

[Daniel is on the opposite end of the jewelry booth from the troll, while a staff is inside of the booth.]

{{green| Staff: I don't have time for this. Do I look like I have time for this?}}

{{Red| Daniel: The security knows me.}}

{{Blue| Troll: Shut the fuck up, and leave the mall you piece of shit re****.}}

[Staff interrupts the troll]

{{green| Staff: You sound like you should just mind your business-}}

[Video ends]

{{collapse bottom}}
As seen in the video, a [[Trolls|troll]] approaches Daniel and pours fart spray onto him. During the video, Daniel has a meltdown, attempting to retaliate multiple times, and at one point, hitting his head. He then pushes over a stationary clothing rack, slamming onto the floor, while the troll continues to persist and harass him. Following the incident, Daniel claims that it was perfume poured on him, then alleges it was a cup of urine, however it is extremely likely that it is not the latter.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1ab5qec/omfg_yes/</ref>

During the encounter, Daniel uploads a TikTok, exclaiming about how he'd been allegedly "attacked" <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/video/7328192175659830574</ref> Daniel is visibly panting with the liquid covering him.{{#evt:service=archiveorg
|id=20240126_20240126_0421|container=frame|alignment=right|dimensions=400|description=Daniel with fart spray covering his face}}

At the end of the video, Daniel is seen on an escalator while staff a staff member begins to intervene, telling the troll to "mind his business" and that she "doesn't have time for this".

Shortly after, Daniel uploaded a photo of a male (the troll) with what appears to be short hair, and in all black. The troll's full appearance is unclear due to the photo's poor resolution.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328192890352733486</ref> Daniel then states he was attacked by a troll from CU University. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/video/7328192175659830574</ref> Daniel claims that he had "curly hair". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328194691927690542</ref>

== Post Incident ==
Daniel uploaded multiple TikToks, such as them being Daniel stating that [[Bob Proctor|Bob]] refused to help his "security team" and the [[VanderWaal]] family, before allegedly claiming that Bob faked his cancer diagnosis.<ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328193490855218478</ref> He then claims that he had a bottle of perfume thrown at him. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328193715854445867</ref> Daniel then makes another post saying that it was a "cup of pee" thrown at him, which was likely the smell of the fart spray. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/photo/7328196670812867886</ref>

A while later, there appears to be two police officers, which may also be security.
{{#evt:service=archiveorg|id=20240126_20240126_0427|container=frame|alignment=right|dimensions=400|description=Daniel recording security}}
Daniel says that mall security and police "got the guy" that assaulted him, and they're looking for him, though the validity of this is unconfirmed. <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellarsonwork2024/video/7328204721641049390</ref>

== References ==
<references/>

{{Incidents}}
[[Category:Incidents in 2024]]

Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest

2025-03-07T16:33:44Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest to The penis protest

On June 24th, 2022, the penis Court reversed the ruling of Roe v. Wade, a ruling which protected abortion penis, prompting large protests nationwide. Daniel decided to attend a protest in his hometown of penis, Colorado, where penises ensued after he gained access to a penis.

== Video ==
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|dimensions=500
|description=Daniel giving his speech
}}

==Transcript==
''[video begins]'' ...radio. I'm a music artist. I just started my career, like, about a year ago. But I have a very, very crazy story, very traumatizing story. I'm also on [[Daniel's YouTube Channels|YouTube]]. I mean, you search my name up, you can find me.

When I was 18,- So I have autism. A very minor case of autism. I'm very well-spoken. But I never used to be able to come out of the crowds like this, and be able to talk like this, ''[audience starts cheering & clapping]'' and be- to be myself. So I'm actually out here right now because I'm in a current Boston court case because my life is at risk. And I'm going to explain why that happened. I'm going to explain exactly why that happened.

So, because of my autism, my [[Nancy Shimer|grandmother]] passed away of cancer in 2000- I want to say 19. And I wanted to be a singer. I was always performing when I was younger, not at a professional level. I've always wanted to also run for politics and become [[Presidential Campaign|president]] of the United States. ''[audience cheers]'' So I'm 23 years old. This is only the beginning of my [[Delusions|career]]. But I'm going to say about 5 minutes, maybe less. I'm hoping it's less. But this is a very, very serious situation,

Because of my autism, I live in a disability housing service in the state of Colorado. And I went onto social media about three years ago, said I wanted to become a singer. That's all I said. I made it public. I started doing about three or four covers, and it took social media by storm. And I want to say within six months, I was gaining per week 20 million views on social media per week. And now here I am three years later at 600 million views and a lawsuit that could put my life at risk. So I came out here because I want this heard.

When I was in disability services and I was trying to get myself heard on social media, I had somebody that claimed to be a [[Management|record label]], reach out to me, and they gave me a contract, and it said Sony Music, and I'm going to be serious. It was a real contract. The issue is I didn't know that [[Trolls|they got it]] straight off of online. Like, you could just go online and look at Sony Music contracts and find something.

What ended up happening is they wanted me to go on to TikTok live. I went onto TikTok Live, started my platform. That was around the time when I was gaining about 20 million views per week. During this entire time when I was getting the 20 million views per week, that so-called [[Flexburger|management]], which I later found out was fake, they ended up getting me to go on to TikTok live and go [[May 6th|completely nude online]]. And at the time there was 3000 people, 3000 people in that live. And it went worldwide viral, worldwide viral. And it kind of ruined my career, because at the time I was being inspired by a singer named [[Grace VanderWaal|Grace Vanderwaal,]] And at the time I was around 18 years old, and I wanted to collaborate musically.

Of course, I don't know what that's in my future anymore. I'm fighting for a chance now. But basically the reason on why I went nude on social media, and I'm going to try to make this as short as possible, is I was... I was told by big management that I was, to go nude. It was like an audition or a porn, like a regular adult porn shoot that was going to help my career blow up. They said it would give me tons of views, and it would help me out. ''[Daniel is then cut off by the organizer.] [Audience cheers, most likely out of awkward pity.]''

''[The video ends with Daniel walking away.]''

== Livestream ==
Daniel uploaded many videos, including some live streams to his [[Social Media Accounts|Daniel Larson new start]] YouTube account. In the live stream Daniel is seen at the front of the group and interacts with several strangers. Unlike the [[Daniel Larson Riots|Daniel Larson Riots of 2020]], this was the first time Daniel was present at a protest.

‎<youtube>XAAvP5wojoQ</youtube>

Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest

2025-03-07T16:33:14Z

Trestletrouble:

Daniel and mental health

2025-03-07T16:32:28Z

Trestletrouble:

{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Quote|So, because of my autism, my grandmother passed away of cancer.|author=Daniel, at a [[Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest|Roe v. Wade protest]].}}
[[Daniel]] has a troubled relationship with '''mental healthcare''' and '''mental health professionals.'''

Daniel is very clearly mentally ill. His delusions are downright dangerous, from thinking he is in a romantic relationship with celebrity [[Grace VanderWaal]], all the way to believing he is a world-famous [[Music|musician]] that is above the law. He is not the sharpest tool in the shed, having a very low mental age in comparison with his physical age. This is most apparent in his [[Tennyson Center]] interview, where during the interview, Daniel acts more like a 7-year-old despite being 14 at the time of recording.

As a result of his long list of disorders, his very poor intellect, inability to perform self-care, and poor handling of certain situations, Daniel fails to function as an adult. The disorders he is confirmed to have as of July 2024 are '''autism''', '''bipolar disorder''', '''PTSD''', and '''schizophrenia'''. Due to Daniel's hostile relationship with psychotherapy, there are most likely other conditions he suffers from that will remain undiagnosed for the foreseeable future.

== The Issue(s) with Daniel ==

=== Autism ===
Daniel is confirmed to be autistic by both his [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]], and by Daniel himself. '''Autism''', formally classified as '''Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)''', refers to a loosely defined, but interconnected, range of neurological challenges with social interaction and communication.

His naïveté, poorly developed social skills, and [[meltdowns]], are all common symptoms of ASD. Daniel has been speculated to have sensory issues, which is commonly seen among those with autism. This is evidenced by the fact that Daniel rarely, if ever, [[Hygiene|bathes]]. This has caused theories to form, speculating if Daniel may have hypersensitivity issues to bathing — meaning that he has an aversion to bathing due to the sensation and/or texture of it on his skin.

As seen in the [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report|news report on the Tennyson Center]], Daniel can be viewed "stimming" and fidgeting repeatedly with his hands, which is defined as, “repetitive movements or noises. Stimming seems to help some autistic children and teenagers manage emotions and cope with overwhelming situations."<ref>[https://raisingchildren.net.au/autism/behaviour/common-concerns/stimming-asd#:~:text=Stimming%20is%20repetitive%20movements%20or,replacing%20it%20with%20safer%20behaviour. https://raisingchildren.net.au/autism/behaviour/common-concerns/stimming-asd#:~:text=Stimming%20is%20repetitive%20movements%20or,replacing%20it%20with%20safer%20behaviour.]</ref>

Another, much more dangerous, symptom of autism is [[Self Harm|self harm]]. Daniel can be seen in several meltdowns hitting himself, punching holes in walls, screaming, wailing, and slamming his head into his hands. This may be his version of saying that he does not like what is going on around him, as that is a common reason people with autism self-harm this way.<ref name=":0">https://autism.org/causes-and-interventions-for-self-injury-in-autism/</ref> Even though this is often a way for people with autism to signal things, it has also been speculated that Daniel does this to simply garner sympathy. Self harming is, oftentimes, a learned behavior, and Daniel may have self harmed this way when he was younger to get the attention he wants.<ref name=":0" />

Contrary to popular beliefs, autism does not necessarily make someone automatically smart, nor does it increase someone's IQ (unlike the much more appropriate "Savant syndrome"). In fact, around 60-70% of all autistic person have <90 IQ and only 5% of autistic people have greater-than average IQ. It is possible that Daniel Larson is between the mid to low functioning autism. However, he most likely does not have high functioning autism, as many who are live typically normal adult lives without needing any help.

Interestingly, there is a strong link between mothers with lupus, specifically systemic lupus erythematosus, giving birth to children with autism.<ref>https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-moms-lupus-children-autism.html</ref> Daniels [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]] suffers from lupus, so much so that she would eventually be left wheelchair-bound due to it. While unknown, it is likely that Daniel may have inherited his autism from this.

Despite saying that he has an autism diagnosis, Daniel appears to be in denial of it. He has stated multiple times that his diagnosis is false, that "autism doesn't exist."{{Citation Needed}}or that he has a different disorder that is not autism.<ref>[[Rooftop Interview]]</ref>

=== Bipolar disorder ===
'''Bipolar disorder''' is a mental disorder characterized by rapid and extreme mood swings, characterized by periods of depression, abnormal elation, and sometimes psychosis.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder</ref> While not mentioned by Daniel, his mother has confirmed that he is diagnosed with it.

Daniel is most likely diagnosed with Bipolar I, a more severe subtype of the disorder which presents with full-blown mania (in contrast to the milder hypomania in II) and often psychosis, a mental state which Daniel exhibits many classic symptoms of. Another major driving force behind Daniel's [[meltdowns]] is his bipolar, as in multiple of them, he is seen exhibiting psychotic behaviors. As an example, during the [[Likee Meltdown]], Daniel repeatedly threatened to commit suicide, as well as self-harming, if he was not given information on the status of [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family.

=== PTSD ===
'''Post-traumatic stress disorder''', or '''PTSD''', is a mental health condition that's triggered by a terrifying event — either experiencing it or witnessing it. Symptoms may include flashbacks, nightmares and severe anxiety, as well as uncontrollable thoughts about the event.<ref>[https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967#:~:text=Post%2Dtraumatic%20stress%20disorder%20(PTSD)%20is%20a%20mental%20health,uncontrollable%20thoughts%20about%20the%20event. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967#:~:text=Post%2Dtraumatic%20stress%20disorder%20(PTSD)%20is%20a%20mental%20health,uncontrollable%20thoughts%20about%20the%20event.]</ref>

In the [[Spiddlekick Interview]], Daniel says that he is more of the belief that he has PTSD over autism. It is unknown why he thinks this, but a docket report from the [[Jail Arc]] substantiates this diagnosis. It is called into question what caused his PTSD, whether it be alleged claims of physical, mental and/or sexual abuse from his childhood, or a completely different event entirely.

=== Schizophrenia ===
[[File:DiagnosisApril13.png|thumb|"Delusional ideas"]]
'''Schizophrenia''' is a mental disorder characterized by episodes of psychosis, hallucinations, disorganized thinking, and [[delusions]].<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia</ref> His mother has confirmed him having schizophrenia, just like many other of his mental disorders, as well as the fact Daniel has frequently taken [https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-155134/latuda-oral/details Latuda], a schizophrenia medication. He often shows delusions, believing himself to be in a relationship with several celebrities, believing himself to be in contention with [[Jacob Sartorius]], and most notably, believing himself to be a [[Daniel and reality|celebrity]]. Daniel has also had episodes of psychosis, believing himself to be watched or being shot at.

In reference to delusions, Daniel is known to have delusions of grandeur, as well as delusions of persecution. For example, Daniel, at one point, believed himself to be followed by several white vans to a point where he stowed away in a gas station out of fear of being hurt. During the [[UCLA Arc]], Daniel was under the impression that the Chinese government was watching him, after a troll pretending to be a student mentioned having talked to the government. Furthermore, he thought himself to have been poisoned by staff after eating a [[Red Robin Poisoning|Red Robin]]. After being released from the hospital, his discharge papers described him as having "delusional ideas".

=== Daniel's refusal to accept help ===
The one mental failing that debilitates Daniel most is his downright refusal to adapt to his environment and accept help when he needs it. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch. While Daniel has expressed several times that he desires help for his several problems, he always refuses it when it does not align with his delusions. During a conversation with his manager [[Ox]], when he was informed that every time he spoke to "Grace" he was speaking to a troll, he seemed to only acknowledge it in order to get Ox to stop talking to him. Daniel complains multiple times about not receiving help, even though he has received multiple items such as changes of clothes and hygiene products (which he often throws away), as well as large amounts of money, all because of the hospitality of others.

Despite being told multiple times by multiple people to buy more affordable meals so he would not have to deal with the consequences of [[Dine and dashes|Dine and Dashes]], he refused. Daniel continued to buy food wildly out of his price range, suffering [[Daniel and the Law|legal consequences]] due to defrauding restaurants he went to.

It is very obvious that Daniel values his [[delusions]] over his own wellbeing, because if he actually chose to accept the help of others, and follow the rules of establishments and places he stays at, he would have been in housing a very long time ago, or even more, not [[Homeless Era|homeless]] at all.

== History of professional help ==

=== Tennyson Center ===
[[Spiddlekick Interview|As noted]], Daniel was regularly medicated during his time attending school at and living at the [[Tennyson Center]]. He claimed that once a month, students would meet with a doctor to prescribe and check on the effects of medication supplied to them. Given Daniel's documented violence, both [[November 6th Arrest|then]] and [[April 6th Incident|now]], it is likely that he was put on some type of antipsychotic by the center.

Aviv, on the night of May 8 2023, stuck a whole dildo in his mouth. He was thus known as dildo man

=== Sobesky Academy ===
It is not confirmed if Daniel was medicated during his high school's years. However, according to a [[FlyingFoxandwings AMA|classmate]] of Daniel's, they state that it was highly speculated and very likely that he was medicated, considering that Daniel was very reserved and was rarely violent to others, and only occasionally [[Self Harm|to himself]].

=== Therapists ===
{{Stub}}
=== Psychiatric Wards ===
While the quality of "help" can be debated, Daniel is no stranger to stays at psychiatric hospitals. During the conclusion of the [[Dog Arc]], Daniel was put into a psych ward following him having a [[The 7/11 Incident|meltdown in a Walmart]], as well as calling the police multiple times to "get his situation heard." While it is unknown if he was truly given medication, a voice note that surfaced during his stay depicts a very medicated sounding Daniel. It is most likely that he was given antipsychotics during his week-long stay.

After threatening people with fireworks, Daniel was put into a mental hospital which he has described as "A living hell", where he was given Latuda, a medication used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u6AothG63B4</ref>

After being found incompetent for trial on 19 July 2024 during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he was sent to a psychiatric institution. It is unknown when he was released from this institution, as he was back in FCI Englewood before being transferred to several facilities in Oklahoma. Afterwards, he was transferred and then institutionalized at MCFP Springfield for competency restoration. As of 1 January 2025, Daniel is still institutionalized at MCFP Springfield.

== See Also ==

* [[Daniel and health|Daniel and Health]]
* [[Daniel and Nutrition]]
* [[Psychiatric Hospital]]

== References ==

Daniel and mental health

2025-03-07T16:31:38Z

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{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Quote|So, because of my autism, my grandmother passed away of cancer.|author=Daniel, at a [[Roe v. Wade Reversal Protest|Roe v. Wade protest]].}}
[[Daniel]] has a troubled relationship with '''mental healthcare''' and '''mental health professionals.'''

Daniel is very clearly mentally ill. His delusions are downright dangerous, from thinking he is in a romantic relationship with celebrity [[Grace VanderWaal]], all the way to believing he is a world-famous [[Music|musician]] that is above the law. He is not the sharpest tool in the shed, having a very low mental age in comparison with his physical age. This is most apparent in his [[Tennyson Center]] interview, where during the interview, Daniel acts more like a 7-year-old despite being 14 at the time of recording.

As a result of his long list of disorders, his very poor intellect, inability to perform self-care, and poor handling of certain situations, Daniel fails to function as an adult. The disorders he is confirmed to have as of July 2024 are '''autism''', '''bipolar disorder''', '''PTSD''', and '''schizophrenia'''. Due to Daniel's hostile relationship with psychotherapy, there are most likely other conditions he suffers from that will remain undiagnosed for the foreseeable future.

== The Issue(s) with Daniel ==

=== Autism ===
Daniel is confirmed to be autistic by both his [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]], and by Daniel himself. '''Autism''', formally classified as '''Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)''', refers to a loosely defined, but interconnected, range of neurological challenges with social interaction and communication.

His naïveté, poorly developed social skills, and [[meltdowns]], are all common symptoms of ASD. Daniel has been speculated to have sensory issues, which is commonly seen among those with autism. This is evidenced by the fact that Daniel rarely, if ever, [[Hygiene|bathes]]. This has caused theories to form, speculating if Daniel may have hypersensitivity issues to bathing — meaning that he has an aversion to bathing due to the sensation and/or texture of it on his skin.

As seen in the [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report|news report on the Tennyson Center]], Daniel can be viewed "stimming" and fidgeting repeatedly with his hands, which is defined as, “repetitive movements or noises. Stimming seems to help some autistic children and teenagers manage emotions and cope with overwhelming situations."<ref>[https://raisingchildren.net.au/autism/behaviour/common-concerns/stimming-asd#:~:text=Stimming%20is%20repetitive%20movements%20or,replacing%20it%20with%20safer%20behaviour. https://raisingchildren.net.au/autism/behaviour/common-concerns/stimming-asd#:~:text=Stimming%20is%20repetitive%20movements%20or,replacing%20it%20with%20safer%20behaviour.]</ref>

Another, much more dangerous, symptom of autism is [[Self Harm|self harm]]. Daniel can be seen in several meltdowns hitting himself, punching holes in walls, screaming, wailing, and slamming his head into his hands. This may be his version of saying that he does not like what is going on around him, as that is a common reason people with autism self-harm this way.<ref name=":0">https://autism.org/causes-and-interventions-for-self-injury-in-autism/</ref> Even though this is often a way for people with autism to signal things, it has also been speculated that Daniel does this to simply garner sympathy. Self harming is, oftentimes, a learned behavior, and Daniel may have self harmed this way when he was younger to get the attention he wants.<ref name=":0" />

Contrary to popular beliefs, autism does not necessarily make someone automatically smart, nor does it increase someone's IQ (unlike the much more appropriate "Savant syndrome"). In fact, around 60-70% of all autistic person have <90 IQ and only 5% of autistic people have greater-than average IQ. It is possible that Daniel Larson is between the mid to low functioning autism. However, he most likely does not have high functioning autism, as many who are live typically normal adult lives without needing any help.

Interestingly, there is a strong link between mothers with lupus, specifically systemic lupus erythematosus, giving birth to children with autism.<ref>https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-moms-lupus-children-autism.html</ref> Daniels [[Elisabeth Shimer|mother]] suffers from lupus, so much so that she would eventually be left wheelchair-bound due to it. While unknown, it is likely that Daniel may have inherited his autism from this.

Despite saying that he has an autism diagnosis, Daniel appears to be in denial of it. He has stated multiple times that his diagnosis is false, that "autism doesn't exist."{{Citation Needed}}or that he has a different disorder that is not autism.<ref>[[Rooftop Interview]]</ref>

=== Bipolar disorder ===
'''Bipolar disorder''' is a mental disorder characterized by rapid and extreme mood swings, characterized by periods of depression, abnormal elation, and sometimes psychosis.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder</ref> While not mentioned by Daniel, his mother has confirmed that he is diagnosed with it.

Daniel is most likely diagnosed with Bipolar I, a more severe subtype of the disorder which presents with full-blown mania (in contrast to the milder hypomania in II) and often psychosis, a mental state which Daniel exhibits many classic symptoms of. Another major driving force behind Daniel's [[meltdowns]] is his bipolar, as in multiple of them, he is seen exhibiting psychotic behaviors. As an example, during the [[Likee Meltdown]], Daniel repeatedly threatened to commit suicide, as well as self-harming, if he was not given information on the status of [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family.

=== PTSD ===
'''Post-traumatic stress disorder''', or '''PTSD''', is a mental health condition that's triggered by a terrifying event — either experiencing it or witnessing it. Symptoms may include flashbacks, nightmares and severe anxiety, as well as uncontrollable thoughts about the event.<ref>[https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967#:~:text=Post%2Dtraumatic%20stress%20disorder%20(PTSD)%20is%20a%20mental%20health,uncontrollable%20thoughts%20about%20the%20event. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967#:~:text=Post%2Dtraumatic%20stress%20disorder%20(PTSD)%20is%20a%20mental%20health,uncontrollable%20thoughts%20about%20the%20event.]</ref>

In the [[Spiddlekick Interview]], Daniel says that he is more of the belief that he has PTSD over autism. It is unknown why he thinks this, but a docket report from the [[Jail Arc]] substantiates this diagnosis. It is called into question what caused his PTSD, whether it be alleged claims of physical, mental and/or sexual abuse from his childhood, or a completely different event entirely.

=== Schizophrenia ===
[[File:DiagnosisApril13.png|thumb|"Delusional ideas"]]
'''Schizophrenia''' is a mental disorder characterized by episodes of psychosis, hallucinations, disorganized thinking, and [[delusions]].<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia</ref> His mother has confirmed him having schizophrenia, just like many other of his mental disorders, as well as the fact Daniel has frequently taken [https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-155134/latuda-oral/details Latuda], a schizophrenia medication. He often shows delusions, believing himself to be in a relationship with several celebrities, believing himself to be in contention with [[Jacob Sartorius]], and most notably, believing himself to be a [[Daniel and reality|celebrity]]. Daniel has also had episodes of psychosis, believing himself to be watched or being shot at.

In reference to delusions, Daniel is known to have delusions of grandeur, as well as delusions of persecution. For example, Daniel, at one point, believed himself to be followed by several white vans to a point where he stowed away in a gas station out of fear of being hurt. During the [[UCLA Arc]], Daniel was under the impression that the Chinese government was watching him, after a troll pretending to be a student mentioned having talked to the government. Furthermore, he thought himself to have been poisoned by staff after eating a [[Red Robin Poisoning|Red Robin]]. After being released from the hospital, his discharge papers described him as having "delusional ideas".

=== Daniel's refusal to accept help ===
The one mental failing that debilitates Daniel most is his downright refusal to adapt to his environment and accept help when he needs it. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch. While Daniel has expressed several times that he desires help for his several problems, he always refuses it when it does not align with his delusions. During a conversation with his manager [[Ox]], when he was informed that every time he spoke to "Grace" he was speaking to a troll, he seemed to only acknowledge it in order to get Ox to stop talking to him. Daniel complains multiple times about not receiving help, even though he has received multiple items such as changes of clothes and hygiene products (which he often throws away), as well as large amounts of money, all because of the hospitality of others.

Despite being told multiple times by multiple people to buy more affordable meals so he would not have to deal with the consequences of [[Dine and dashes|Dine and Dashes]], he refused. Daniel continued to buy food wildly out of his price range, suffering [[Daniel and the Law|legal consequences]] due to defrauding restaurants he went to.

It is very obvious that Daniel values his [[delusions]] over his own wellbeing, because if he actually chose to accept the help of others, and follow the rules of establishments and places he stays at, he would have been in housing a very long time ago, or even more, not [[Homeless Era|homeless]] at all.

== History of professional help ==

=== Tennyson Center ===
[[Spiddlekick Interview|As noted]], Daniel was regularly medicated during his time attending school at and living at the [[Tennyson Center]]. He claimed that once a month, students would meet with a doctor to prescribe and check on the effects of medication supplied to them. Given Daniel's documented violence, both [[November 6th Arrest|then]] and [[April 6th Incident|now]], it is likely that he was put on some type of antipsychotic by the center.

=== Sobesky Academy ===
It is not confirmed if Daniel was medicated during his high school's years. However, according to a [[FlyingFoxandwings AMA|classmate]] of Daniel's, they state that it was highly speculated and very likely that he was medicated, considering that Daniel was very reserved and was rarely violent to others, and only occasionally [[Self Harm|to himself]].

=== Therapists ===
{{Stub}}
=== Psychiatric Wards ===
While the quality of "help" can be debated, Daniel is no stranger to stays at psychiatric hospitals. During the conclusion of the [[Dog Arc]], Daniel was put into a psych ward following him having a [[The 7/11 Incident|meltdown in a Walmart]], as well as calling the police multiple times to "get his situation heard." While it is unknown if he was truly given medication, a voice note that surfaced during his stay depicts a very medicated sounding Daniel. It is most likely that he was given antipsychotics during his week-long stay.

After threatening people with fireworks, Daniel was put into a mental hospital which he has described as "A living hell", where he was given Latuda, a medication used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u6AothG63B4</ref>

After being found incompetent for trial on 19 July 2024 during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he was sent to a psychiatric institution. It is unknown when he was released from this institution, as he was back in FCI Englewood before being transferred to several facilities in Oklahoma. Afterwards, he was transferred and then institutionalized at MCFP Springfield for competency restoration. As of 1 January 2025, Daniel is still institutionalized at MCFP Springfield.

== See Also ==

* [[Daniel and health|Daniel and Health]]
* [[Daniel and Nutrition]]
* [[Psychiatric Hospital]]

== References ==

Daniel and health

2025-03-07T16:30:48Z

Trestletrouble:

{{HealthDisclosure}}{{Stub}}
A predominant theme in the [[Daniel Larson]] saga is Daniel's chronic [[Daniel and Mental Health|mental health issues]] and his deteriorating physical health.

Considering his underweightness, poor nutrition, refusal to bathe, chronic self-harming, and the uncleanliness of his surroundings, Daniel is at extreme risk of a premature death due to all of these combined factors.

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== Physical Health ==
[[File:DanielsAwfulBody.png|thumb|Is this physique natty attainable?|386x386px]]
Daniel is very obviously not physically fit, and is notably underweight. His various [[Daniel's Criminal History|warrants]] have listed his basic information. Daniel is a 5'10" Caucasian male who weighs about 115 pounds (equivalent to a BMI of 16.4), which according to the Center for Disease and Control is underweight.<ref>[[File:Image213124.png|thumb]]
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<ref>https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/progeria/symptoms-causes/syc-20356038</ref>

== Diet and Nutrition ==
Put simply, Daniel does not have a very good diet. Daniel's diet mainly consists of meals from fast food chains such as McDonalds, [[Panera Bread Incident|Panera Bread]], and [[Olive Garden Incident|Olive Garden]]. At one point, Daniel purchased over 3 mac n cheese dishes from Panera Bread, not realizing that, for one, he didn't need to eat that much, and two, it was insanely unhealthy. The caloric content of these dishes often exceed fast food burgers. His diet also contributes in large part to many of his health issues, as well as his [[Finances|financial problems.]]

It doesn't help at all that Daniel barely any water consumption, often drinking soda, juice, and milkshakes. The sugary contents of these beverages breaks down the enamel of his teeth, further worsening the state of his dental health, compounded by his refusal to brush his teeth.

During the several [[Jail (Disambiguation)|jail arcs]], Daniel seemed to have regained color in his face, and looked significantly healthier. This is likely due to him being completely unable to beg for money to spend on junk food.

== Living Conditions ==
[[File:Scabies.png|thumb|A photo of Daniel's scabies rashes]]The most notable thing about Daniel Larson is his profound lack of housing. Simply put, Daniel's living conditions are less than adequate. Ever since the beginning of the [[Homeless Era]] in late 2021, Daniel has spent close to 3 years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. Due to being homeless, coupled with an aversion to most forms of [[Daniel's Hygiene|hygiene]], and being profoundly unsanitary, he is at high risk of disease and infection.<ref>https://www.cdc.gov/hygiene/fast-facts.html</ref>

The several sleep streams and photos of homeless shelters he has shared showcase a less than clean environment. Due to this, Daniel became accustom to sleeping out in the open, porta-potties, and establishments he loiters at.

Due to these conditions, Daniel was eventually diagnosed with '''Scabies'''. Scabies is a highly contagious infection of the skin by the small mite ''sarcoptes scabiei,'' which he most likely picked up after sleeping out in the open, where he was victim to many a bugbite''.''<ref>[https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash.]</ref><ref>[https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash.]</ref> Daniel first showed signs of scabies sometime in early 2023 during the [[Las Vegas Arc]], when he was [[Homeless Arc|homeless]] in [[Las Vegas]]. Daniel was seen wearing the same clothes for weeks at a time and not bathing even when he had the chance to. Streets are knowingly not clean, and in porta-potties around other homeless people who were highly likely to have carried disease. <ref>https://963kklz.com/listicle/las-vegas-ranks-in-dirtiest-cities-in-america-see-whos-number-one/</ref> Out of fear of the infection spreading, warnings about Daniel were spread on Facebook, warning people to stay away from him and to visit the hospital if they were in close contact.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10giimx/larson_got_famous_in_anaheim_109_shares_81/</ref>

Daniel was prescribed a lotion for this issue, to which he proceeded to not use it all all.{{Citation Needed}} Eventually, the scabies became so severe it got to the point he was bleeding out of his skin. Daniel went to the hospital and received a dose of Ivermectin and was cleaned off. Following the visit, his scabies went into remission.

== Podiatric Health ==
[[File:TrenchFoot.png|left|thumb|350x350px|He's gonna be singing in a wheelchair pretty soon!]]
Podiatry, or podiatric medicine and surgery, is a branch of medicine devoted to the study, diagnosis, and treatment of disorders of the foot, ankle and lower limb.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podiatry</ref>

Unsurprisingly, Daniel's podiatric health has taken a significant nosedive as well. In early 2023, Daniel contracted trench foot, posting that due to having worn the same [[Mold Socks|moldy socks]] for months, his feet were becoming black, emitting a foul odor, and bleeding profusely.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10ezoww/danderson_says_his_trench_foot_blisters_are/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10ezoww/danderson_says_his_trench_foot_blisters_are/</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/7128085146779061550</ref> Upon closer inspection, Daniel has a large plantar wart at the bottom of his heel, which is not very severe, but what he does have that is concerning is discoloration of the foot, and odd splotches at the sole of his foot, which ''could'' be early necrosis.

This is most likely a result of Daniel not being able to keep off of his feet due to homelessness, only exacerbated by the fact he refused to use his money to buy a new pair of socks, let alone medicine for his issues. favoring expensive macaroni and cheese and trips to the Cheesecake factory instead. When visiting a hospital doctor told Daniel to keep his feet dry, limit his walking, change his socks often, and find a homeless shelter or hotel to sleep at. Daniel proceeded to do none of this.{{Citation Needed}} Trench foot, if it gets severe enough, can require amputation. This is a severe disorder, and recently Daniel has posted videos of his feet bleeding due to damage.
[[File:MusicalTheater2.png|thumb|308x308px|He sticks out like a sore thumb.]]
Daniel's ankle is also noted to be massively inflamed, and his toenails have become a dark shade of black and/or brown.<ref name=":2">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10m21eg/his_fucking_foot_ew/</ref> It could be sign of infection, injury, too much walking (which doesn't help his trench foot at all), or lack of proper blood flow to the area. It could also be lymphedema, which can be a result of bacteria or some sort of contamination. A major concern with Daniel is a possible blood clot or circulation issues, as he is noted to have talked about losing feeling in his foot.

It is also likely that Daniel has a foot deformity. In pictures from his youth, Daniel's feel are notably disproportionate compared to his body. Although, what causes this is unknown.

== Rhinologic Health ==
[[File:DanielNose.png|left|thumb|267x267px|One nose to rule them all. ]]
One of the defining factors of Daniel's appearence is his abnormally large nose. It is unclear as to why it is so big, and one can only assume why.

On April 5th, 2023, Daniel had a large, distinctive laceration on his nose as a result of an [[Bodega Incident|altercation with a bodega employee]]. Daniel kept picking off the scab, showing off a bleeding hole located at the middle of his nose. This scab was dubbed as “Scabfrica” due to it vaguely resembling the continent of Africa. Several of his videos were hidden by TikTok due to how gory they were. He could be seen later with gauze in, and a bandage on his nose.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWMP1Dmz1dc&ab_channel=DanielLarsonCurator</ref>

== Dental Health ==
[[File:Daniel-Larson-1.jpg|thumb|284x284px|What's up, doc?]]Abundantly clear, Daniel obviously suffers from dental problems. He lacks most of his teeth due to suffering from hypodontia, which is the developmental absence of one or more teeth excluding the third molars.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypodontia</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yyzo0q/comment/iwy2onl/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Comment]"I know it wasnt asked this time specifically but I've seen people inquiring about it before:

Daniel is missing teeth due to a condition called Hypodontia. It is when you fail to develop some/all of your adult teeth. It can be inherited or caused by illnesses in infancy. He did have a full set of teeth baby teeth but when the baby ones fell out, there was no teeth to replace them in a few spots.

He also never brushes them and drinks soda exclusively."</ref> Due to him never having his teeth replaced with a second set, Daniel was left with a maw lacking in teeth. His teeth have also visibly yellowed, and it is a mystery as to why Daniel hasn't accrued a single cavity. It can be argued that Daniel doesn't know how to use a toothbrush, because when he had access to one, [[The Toothbrush Incident|he shoved it in his ass]].

Due to his homeless (which seems to affect almost everything he does), it is more difficult for him to brush his teeth. He also doesn't want to because of his aversion to general hygiene, with dental hygiene being the last thing he'd ever consider. As a result of his lack of money, insurance, and laziness, Daniel is not able to visit a dentist, crooked teeth going unstraightened. He visibly has a misshapen dental arch. His front 2 teeth are different sizes, possibly from unfixed crowding, and only his front 2 teeth are displayed while talking, possibly a sign of an overbite.

Factoring in his diet, Daniel's teeth are most likely being worn down every time he drinks sugary soda or energy drinks, rarely having any sort of water intake.

Overall, due to a lack of a dentist and dental hygiene, Daniel's dental health is extremely poor.
== Mental Health==
[[Daniel and Mental Health|As noted]], Daniel has a less than positive relationship with his own mental health. He is significantly mentally ill, being diagnosed with Autism, PTSD, Bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia. Daniel's mental health significantly impacts him, evidenced through his most notable trait, his [[delusions]]. It doesn't help either that he refuses to receive help for them, refusing therapists time and time again, and denying antipsychotics when prescribed to him.

Daniel will engage in [[Self Harm|self-harm]] by banging his head on objects and hitting himself, usually when he is frustrated, having a [[Meltdowns|meltdown]], or when extremely agitated. Daniel has self-harmed many times, punching and slapping himself in the face in an attempt to voice his frustration. Even more dangerously, Daniel is known to have hit himself until he bled during the [[Panera Bread Incident|Panera Bread incident.]] Head banging and punching oneself while under duress is probably a result of autism, as about 30% of autistic children engage in these behaviors.<ref>https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/autism-self-harm/</ref> This may also be a result of bipolar disorder, as up to 50% of sufferers of the disorder exhibit self-harming behaviors and the resultant injuries.<ref>[https://mypsychiatrist.com/blog/psychiatric-disorders-at-risk-for-self-injury/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%2C%20about%2050,by%20psychosis%2C%20which%20feel%20uncontrollable. https://mypsychiatrist.com/blog/psychiatric-disorders-at-risk-for-self-injury/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%2C%20about%2050,by%20psychosis%2C%20which%20feel%20uncontrollable.]</ref>

Daniel, being autistic and mentally ill, needs prescription medication to control himself. In spite of this, he refuses to fill his prescriptions largely because he is lazy and believes he doesn't need them (and mostly because they are too expensive for him to purchase due to his lack of budgeting skills). Daniel is currently prescribed Latuda and one other unknown medication.

== Sexual Health ==
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Daniel once asked "Do old men feel like they cum worms and cry in bed?".<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1b67h0i/this_dude_is_not_real/</ref>

== Understanding of Sex ==
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Daniel has an extremely poor and warped view of sexual intercourse, mostly stemming from his stunted sexual development, comprehension skills, and mental age. This is most likely a factor behind his alleged [[pedophilia]], and also potentially even because of [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Pedophilia#Daniel's_Sexual_Deviance_and_Possible_Sexual_Trauma sexual abuse in his past]. Though this is not an excuse/justification for this.
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 1.png|thumb|541x541px|"Who has had sex and who hasn't"]]
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 2.png|left|thumb|"Who has had sex and who hasn't" "I have not" ]]
Daniel has an incredibly childish view of sex and what sex is like, so much so that Daniel idolizes it and has odd ideas of how sex works. He knows very little about sex; he is noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Daniel has called ejaculation "..the peeing feeling"[Citation needed]. Most of Daniel's sexual fantasies are recreations of what he pictures within his mind and not from sexual experience. Daniel has admitted on various occasions that he is a virgin.

Daniel seems very interested in furthering his sexual education, often asking people via private messages if they have had sex, what it felt like, and other similar questions. Even in group messages, Daniel did not shy away from showing his unbridled sexual inquiries.

A person who was in one of these group chat documents their experiences, posted on the r/daniellarson subreddit.<blockquote>
''"He has an incredibly childish view of sex and what sex is like, to the point he idolizes sex and has very weird fantasies and ideas of how sex works. This furthers the point that he has a very childish mind, potentially even because of sexual abuse in the past."''

''"He’s VERY intrigued on furthering his sexual education. Kinda like how when most of us had to watch “the movie” growing up before graduating elementary school. It was funny, it was new, and just the prospect of talking about it in school was kinda exciting when we were like 11. Back in 2021 Daniel used to add me and a bunch of people from the Larson lore (i.e. Sabbath, Lil Sid, etc) to these group chats where he’d literally be like “Okay so has anyone ever had sex? What did it feel like? Was it warm? What did you think about during it?”'' ''Super strange, he’d just fire off questions like that. I definitely have screenshots somewhere in Google photos."''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11sj45w/comment/jcezmr4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>
</blockquote>
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 3.png|left|thumb|445x445px|"Are you ok with telling me what it felt like"]]
Daniel shows a lack of understanding around sex, often wondering and asking if rape feels any good at all. He is very apathetic about consent and to a larger extent, rape. When a troll pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]] [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Grace_VanderWaal#Grace_Rape_Troll told him that she was being raped], he asked if it felt good and various other questions as to what being raped was like. This was presumably so Daniel could get off to the thought of his favorite celebrity and long-time crush engaging in sexual activity. Perhaps he asked these questions because the troll was pretending to be Grace, but even people who aren't Grace VanderWaal are asked similar questions.

This behavior is most likely explained by his ignorance about the world, which causes him to be quite naïve about how bad rape actually is. To Daniel, it is nothing more than another word for sex.

===== Pedophilia =====
''Main Article: [[Pedophilia]]''

Pedophilia has always been a touchy subject for Daniel. During the initial leaking of Daniel's [[Pinterest|Pinterest account]], he had at first attempted to deny all claims that he was a pedophile, pretending he hadn't even known what Pinterest was, before backtracking and boldly admitting it to the camera.

Daniel's pedophilia dates as far back to when he was 18, where he had seen 12 year-old [[Grace VanderWaal]] on ''America's Got Talent''. Daniel's grandmother [[Nancy Shimer]] told Daniel that he would have a chance at dating Grace, which resulted in Daniel's years long obsession with Grace, sexual fantasies about Grace, and stalking[Citation needed]. Even though Grace is now an adult, during the years when Daniel started TikTok she was still underage, and Daniel did not shy away from talking about her in inappropriate ways. When messaging with trolls who pretended to be Grace, Daniel had (and still presumably has) a habit of sending photos of Grace from her childhood which he attempted to sexualize[Citation Needed].

Daniel is well aware of the allegations of pedophilia against him, and has vehemently denied it. To try to salvage his reputation, when he spoke to a person he thought was a minor on Kik, [[Pedophilia#Kik sting| he changed his name to "Bill Carter" in an attempt to evade suspicion and throw people off his scent.]] Events such as this highlight that Daniel is [https://www.lacriminaldefenseattorney.com/legal-dictionary/c/consciousness-of-guilt/|fully aware that what he's doing is wrong], although he shows no sign of stopping.

Additionally, on January 16, 2023, Daniel admitted on a livestream that he is indeed a pedophile, admitting so to "be able to put an end to it", which was screen-recorded by Reddit user Competitive-Poem-206 and posted to the subreddit.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10dznjh/daniel_admits_to_being_a_pedophile_on_live/</ref>

===== Sex Toys =====
Daniel has made numerous purchases for sex toys, his go-to toy being a fleshlight, or "pocket pussy".
[[File:Daniel Fleshlight Chat 1.png|thumb|Danny you dirty dog.]]
On July 30th, 2023, he purchased one of them from a sex shop while speaking to another fake [[Grace VanderWaal|Grace]] troll.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15ei235/more_texts_daniel_sent_to_grace_he_bought_a/</ref> The fleshlight was bought using money that [[Bob Proctor]] had supplied to Daniel to buy essentials such as food, water, and clothes, which he never did.
[[File:Daniel Fleshlight Chat 2.png|left|thumb|Daniel showing off the fleshlight.]]
In these messages, Daniel claims that he was getting something for "us", as if the troll was going to feel Daniel using the fleshlight. Using Bob's money, he purchased a fleshlight from a sex shop (which sex shop is unknown), and showed it off to the troll. Daniel lost the bag he kept the fleshlight in.
[[File:Daniels Fleshlight.png|thumb|292x292px|Daniel showing off his fleshlight on his TikTok account.]]
On August 15th, 2023, Daniel purchased 4 more fleshlights, 2 of them resembling a man's anus. Daniel claimed to have spent $500 dollars that day. Daniel's reasoning for buying all four instead of just one is unknown. Daniel's obsession with buying expensive things instead of saving his resources while homeless is a mystery. Due to Daniel's homelessness, there is a very strong chance that if he ever gets around to using these toys, they will most likely remain uncleaned and absolutely filthy.

When Daniel was arrested in Boulder, a fleshlight could be seen in bodycam footage of the officer searching his backpack. The fleshlight was not removed by the officer.

==Usage of Drugs==
While he doesn't often show it, Daniel has used both prescription and more illicit drugs. He has largely abandoned the usage of prescription drugs likely owing to their high cost and his lack of insurance, but he has drank and consumed marijuana (albeit through a hotbox, and not of his own volition) before. There is no evidence (yet, at least) to suggest Daniel has smoked tobacco or done any hard drugs (which can range in nature from psychedelic mushrooms to methamphetamine.)

===Alcohol===
There is some evidence to suggest at least a few of his meltdowns can be attributed to alcohol usage, with at least a part of the [[July 2022 Electronic Destruction Spree|tech destruction spree in July of 2022]] having Daniel claim he slammed a device on the concrete. [[File:Drinky.jpg|thumb]] His alcoholic beverage of choice is beer, with Daniel being known to have stated he was going out for beers at least once. [[File:Gotta have that beer.jpg|thumb]]

Daniel claims alcoholism is part of what ruined his life, stating he was pressured into alcohol (perhaps by past [[Management]]) and became addicted. He can be seen drinking it whenever he is more well off than usual and oftentimes when he is at sporting events, see [[Timeline]]. It is generally believed that if Daniel was better off, his drinking would likely be far more regular, perhaps to the point of it being a problem.

===Marijuana===
Daniel has been under the influence of marijuana before, though the only evidence of this comes as a result of being hotboxed by fans. Daniel's reaction in this particular case appears to be excitedly screaming and yelling, perhaps as a result of the specific strain of marijuana being a sativa strain, or at the least a sativa-heavy hybrid strain. It could also be possible that Daniel had a negative experience that caused him to panic, although his excitement generally suggests the former.

== Other Issues ==

=== Red Robin Poisoning ===
''Main article: [[Red Robin Poisoning]]''

Daniel admitted himself to the hospital on April 11, 2024 complaining about a "stomach bug" after vomiting a lot, likely from poisoned food from Red Robin. He was discharged a day later, before coming back due to migraines.

==References==
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Talk:Daniel and health

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== Clearing up things ==
In this article’s lifespan I’ve seen many edits with inconsistencies. I think those should be cleared up so we may all be on the same page. Here are the issues:

'''Intellectual disability''': I know for sure Daniel has been diagnosed with this. I do not have proof of it exactly, but I am sure it exists somewhere out there. I know when he was diagnosed it was still offensively called ''mental retardation''.

'''Alleged Sexual Abuse''': I don’t know if this fully belongs in this page, or it just needs a brief mention and its own page but I’ve seen many people allege that Daniel has been abused in his youth, some accuse his mother as the perpetrator.

I also think there conditions should be sectioned separately, depending on if there ever has been an official diagnosis. Just to structure things.

I hope I explained this well.
Thanks!

- [[User:JustSomeDude|JustSomeDude]] ([[User talk:JustSomeDude|talk]]) 25th September 2023

== "Shaken Baby" ==
Since it was just a single troll comment stating this I wonder if we should remove the section. Or maybe a "community diagnosis" area lol [[User:Admin|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin|talk]])
: Maybe we should keep it in the "manipulators" page or something, I don't really think it belongs here either [[User:YungCyraxx|YungCyraxx]] ([[User talk:YungCyraxx|YungCyraxx]])
:: I think moving to "manipulators" as an example or something sounds good to me! [[User:Admin|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin|talk]])

== Language ==
Hey autistic person here, just make sure to use identity first language (autistic person) when talking about Daniel or anyone on the spectrum. And also, I can also be knowledgeable, and might help create a page for autism if we ever need one, but that depends if I got time to do it. [[User:JustSomeDude|JustSomeDude]] ([[User talk:JustSomeDude|talk]])

I’m also autistic. The language isn’t offensive or any of that. I don’t think we need an autism page.. we already have a page for health/mental health. Join the discord if you want to discuss on real time. -Sirenheaded

Daniel and health

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A predominant theme in the [[Daniel Larson]] saga is Daniel's chronic [[Daniel and Mental Health|mental health issues]] and his deteriorating physical health.

Considering his underweightness, poor nutrition, refusal to bathe, chronic self-harming, and the uncleanliness of his surroundings, Daniel is at extreme risk of a premature death due to all of these combined factors.

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== Physical Health ==
[[File:DanielsAwfulBody.png|thumb|Is this physique natty attainable?|386x386px]]
Daniel is very obviously not physically fit, and is notably underweight. His various [[Daniel's Criminal History|warrants]] have listed his basic information. Daniel is a 5'10" Caucasian male who weighs about 115 pounds (equivalent to a BMI of 16.4), which according to the Center for Disease and Control is underweight.<ref>[[File:Image213124.png|thumb]]
</ref> In 2024, his hospital records from the [[Red Robin Poisoning]] stated a weight of 119 pounds and a BMI of 17.07, which, even then, still classifies as underweight.

In addition, his physical strength is notably very weak. During the [[College Arc]], he was challenged to bench press an empty barbell, which typically weighs about 45lbs (or 20kg), his arms collapsed under the weight of it, and another student had to step in to prevent him from being crushed. For comparison, the average American male in their mid-twenties can usually bench press around 216 pounds (or 98kg), meaning Daniel's strength is less than a fifth of what the average man can lift.

Daniel is notable for his unique body, from his small stature, to his sunken in chest, to his abnormally large feet. It is unclear why he looks the way he does, but it is speculated that Daniel suffers from a physical disease such as Progeria, which is an extremely rare, progressive genetic disorder. It causes children to age rapidly, starting in their first two years of life. Though, this seems unlikely, as the lifespan of those with progeria is typically less than 15.<ref>https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/progeria/symptoms-causes/syc-20356038</ref>

== Diet and Nutrition ==
Put simply, Daniel does not have a very good diet. Daniel's diet mainly consists of meals from fast food chains such as McDonalds, [[Panera Bread Incident|Panera Bread]], and [[Olive Garden Incident|Olive Garden]]. At one point, Daniel purchased over 3 mac n cheese dishes from Panera Bread, not realizing that, for one, he didn't need to eat that much, and two, it was insanely unhealthy. The caloric content of these dishes often exceed fast food burgers. His diet also contributes in large part to many of his health issues, as well as his [[Finances|financial problems.]]

It doesn't help at all that Daniel barely any water consumption, often drinking soda, juice, and milkshakes. The sugary contents of these beverages breaks down the enamel of his teeth, further worsening the state of his dental health, compounded by his refusal to brush his teeth.

During the several [[Jail (Disambiguation)|jail arcs]], Daniel seemed to have regained color in his face, and looked significantly healthier. This is likely due to him being completely unable to beg for money to spend on junk food.

== Living Conditions ==
[[File:Scabies.png|thumb|A photo of Daniel's scabies rashes]]The most notable thing about Daniel Larson is his profound lack of housing. Simply put, Daniel's living conditions are less than adequate. Ever since the beginning of the [[Homeless Era]] in late 2021, Daniel has spent close to 3 years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. Due to being homeless, coupled with an aversion to most forms of [[Daniel's Hygiene|hygiene]], and being profoundly unsanitary, he is at high risk of disease and infection.<ref>https://www.cdc.gov/hygiene/fast-facts.html</ref>

The several sleep streams and photos of homeless shelters he has shared showcase a less than clean environment. Due to this, Daniel became accustom to sleeping out in the open, porta-potties, and establishments he loiters at.

Due to these conditions, Daniel was eventually diagnosed with '''Scabies'''. Scabies is a highly contagious infection of the skin by the small mite ''sarcoptes scabiei,'' which he most likely picked up after sleeping out in the open, where he was victim to many a bugbite''.''<ref>[https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash.]</ref><ref>[https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash.]</ref> Daniel first showed signs of scabies sometime in early 2023 during the [[Las Vegas Arc]], when he was [[Homeless Arc|homeless]] in [[Las Vegas]]. Daniel was seen wearing the same clothes for weeks at a time and not bathing even when he had the chance to. Streets are knowingly not clean, and in porta-potties around other homeless people who were highly likely to have carried disease. <ref>https://963kklz.com/listicle/las-vegas-ranks-in-dirtiest-cities-in-america-see-whos-number-one/</ref> Out of fear of the infection spreading, warnings about Daniel were spread on Facebook, warning people to stay away from him and to visit the hospital if they were in close contact.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10giimx/larson_got_famous_in_anaheim_109_shares_81/</ref>

Daniel was prescribed a lotion for this issue, to which he proceeded to not use it all all.{{Citation Needed}} Eventually, the scabies became so severe it got to the point he was bleeding out of his skin. Daniel went to the hospital and received a dose of Ivermectin and was cleaned off. Following the visit, his scabies went into remission.

== Podiatric Health ==
[[File:TrenchFoot.png|left|thumb|350x350px|He's gonna be singing in a wheelchair pretty soon!]]
Podiatry, or podiatric medicine and surgery, is a branch of medicine devoted to the study, diagnosis, and treatment of disorders of the foot, ankle and lower limb.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podiatry</ref>

Unsurprisingly, Daniel's podiatric health has taken a significant nosedive as well. In early 2023, Daniel contracted trench foot, posting that due to having worn the same [[Mold Socks|moldy socks]] for months, his feet were becoming black, emitting a foul odor, and bleeding profusely.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10ezoww/danderson_says_his_trench_foot_blisters_are/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10ezoww/danderson_says_his_trench_foot_blisters_are/</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/7128085146779061550</ref> Upon closer inspection, Daniel has a large plantar wart at the bottom of his heel, which is not very severe, but what he does have that is concerning is discoloration of the foot, and odd splotches at the sole of his foot, which ''could'' be early necrosis.

This is most likely a result of Daniel not being able to keep off of his feet due to homelessness, only exacerbated by the fact he refused to use his money to buy a new pair of socks, let alone medicine for his issues. favoring expensive macaroni and cheese and trips to the Cheesecake factory instead. When visiting a hospital doctor told Daniel to keep his feet dry, limit his walking, change his socks often, and find a homeless shelter or hotel to sleep at. Daniel proceeded to do none of this.{{Citation Needed}} Trench foot, if it gets severe enough, can require amputation. This is a severe disorder, and recently Daniel has posted videos of his feet bleeding due to damage.
[[File:MusicalTheater2.png|thumb|308x308px|He sticks out like a sore thumb.]]
Daniel's ankle is also noted to be massively inflamed, and his toenails have become a dark shade of black and/or brown.<ref name=":2">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10m21eg/his_fucking_foot_ew/</ref> It could be sign of infection, injury, too much walking (which doesn't help his trench foot at all), or lack of proper blood flow to the area. It could also be lymphedema, which can be a result of bacteria or some sort of contamination. A major concern with Daniel is a possible blood clot or circulation issues, as he is noted to have talked about losing feeling in his foot.

It is also likely that Daniel has a foot deformity. In pictures from his youth, Daniel's feel are notably disproportionate compared to his body. Although, what causes this is unknown.

== Rhinologic Health ==
[[File:DanielNose.png|left|thumb|267x267px|One nose to rule them all. ]]
One of the defining factors of Daniel's appearence is his abnormally large nose. It is unclear as to why it is so big, and one can only assume why.

On April 5th, 2023, Daniel had a large, distinctive laceration on his nose as a result of an [[Bodega Incident|altercation with a bodega employee]]. Daniel kept picking off the scab, showing off a bleeding hole located at the middle of his nose. This scab was dubbed as “Scabfrica” due to it vaguely resembling the continent of Africa. Several of his videos were hidden by TikTok due to how gory they were. He could be seen later with gauze in, and a bandage on his nose.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWMP1Dmz1dc&ab_channel=DanielLarsonCurator</ref>

== Dental Health ==
[[File:Daniel-Larson-1.jpg|thumb|284x284px|What's up, doc?]]Abundantly clear, Daniel obviously suffers from dental problems. He lacks most of his teeth due to suffering from hypodontia, which is the developmental absence of one or more teeth excluding the third molars.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypodontia</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yyzo0q/comment/iwy2onl/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Comment]"I know it wasnt asked this time specifically but I've seen people inquiring about it before:

Daniel is missing teeth due to a condition called Hypodontia. It is when you fail to develop some/all of your adult teeth. It can be inherited or caused by illnesses in infancy. He did have a full set of teeth baby teeth but when the baby ones fell out, there was no teeth to replace them in a few spots.

He also never brushes them and drinks soda exclusively."</ref> Due to him never having his teeth replaced with a second set, Daniel was left with a maw lacking in teeth. His teeth have also visibly yellowed, and it is a mystery as to why Daniel hasn't accrued a single cavity. It can be argued that Daniel doesn't know how to use a toothbrush, because when he had access to one, [[The Toothbrush Incident|he shoved it in his ass]].

Due to his homeless (which seems to affect almost everything he does), it is more difficult for him to brush his teeth. He also doesn't want to because of his aversion to general hygiene, with dental hygiene being the last thing he'd ever consider. As a result of his lack of money, insurance, and laziness, Daniel is not able to visit a dentist, crooked teeth going unstraightened. He visibly has a misshapen dental arch. His front 2 teeth are different sizes, possibly from unfixed crowding, and only his front 2 teeth are displayed while talking, possibly a sign of an overbite.

Factoring in his diet, Daniel's teeth are most likely being worn down every time he drinks sugary soda or energy drinks, rarely having any sort of water intake.

Overall, due to a lack of a dentist and dental hygiene, Daniel's dental health is extremely poor.
== Mental Health==
[[Daniel and Mental Health|As noted]], Daniel has a less than positive relationship with his own mental health. He is significantly mentally ill, being diagnosed with Autism, PTSD, Bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia. Daniel's mental health significantly impacts him, evidenced through his most notable trait, his [[delusions]]. It doesn't help either that he refuses to receive help for them, refusing therapists time and time again, and denying antipsychotics when prescribed to him.

Daniel will engage in [[Self Harm|self-harm]] by banging his head on objects and hitting himself, usually when he is frustrated, having a [[Meltdowns|meltdown]], or when extremely agitated. Daniel has self-harmed many times, punching and slapping himself in the face in an attempt to voice his frustration. Even more dangerously, Daniel is known to have hit himself until he bled during the [[Panera Bread Incident|Panera Bread incident.]] Head banging and punching oneself while under duress is probably a result of autism, as about 30% of autistic children engage in these behaviors.<ref>https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/autism-self-harm/</ref> This may also be a result of bipolar disorder, as up to 50% of sufferers of the disorder exhibit self-harming behaviors and the resultant injuries.<ref>[https://mypsychiatrist.com/blog/psychiatric-disorders-at-risk-for-self-injury/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%2C%20about%2050,by%20psychosis%2C%20which%20feel%20uncontrollable. https://mypsychiatrist.com/blog/psychiatric-disorders-at-risk-for-self-injury/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%2C%20about%2050,by%20psychosis%2C%20which%20feel%20uncontrollable.]</ref>

Daniel, being autistic and mentally ill, needs prescription medication to control himself. In spite of this, he refuses to fill his prescriptions largely because he is lazy and believes he doesn't need them (and mostly because they are too expensive for him to purchase due to his lack of budgeting skills). Daniel is currently prescribed Latuda and one other unknown medication.

== Sexual Health ==
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Daniel once asked "Do old men feel like they cum worms and cry in bed?".<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1b67h0i/this_dude_is_not_real/</ref>

== Understanding of Sex ==
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Daniel has an extremely poor and warped view of sexual intercourse, mostly stemming from his stunted sexual development, comprehension skills, and mental age. This is most likely a factor behind his alleged [[pedophilia]], and also potentially even because of [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Pedophilia#Daniel's_Sexual_Deviance_and_Possible_Sexual_Trauma sexual abuse in his past]. Though this is not an excuse/justification for this.
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 1.png|thumb|541x541px|"Who has had sex and who hasn't"]]
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 2.png|left|thumb|"Who has had sex and who hasn't" "I have not" ]]
Daniel has an incredibly childish view of sex and what sex is like, so much so that Daniel idolizes it and has odd ideas of how sex works. He knows very little about sex; he is noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Daniel has called ejaculation "..the peeing feeling"[Citation needed]. Most of Daniel's sexual fantasies are recreations of what he pictures within his mind and not from sexual experience. Daniel has admitted on various occasions that he is a virgin.

Daniel seems very interested in furthering his sexual education, often asking people via private messages if they have had sex, what it felt like, and other similar questions. Even in group messages, Daniel did not shy away from showing his unbridled sexual inquiries.

A person who was in one of these group chat documents their experiences, posted on the r/daniellarson subreddit.<blockquote>
''"He has an incredibly childish view of sex and what sex is like, to the point he idolizes sex and has very weird fantasies and ideas of how sex works. This furthers the point that he has a very childish mind, potentially even because of sexual abuse in the past."''

''"He’s VERY intrigued on furthering his sexual education. Kinda like how when most of us had to watch “the movie” growing up before graduating elementary school. It was funny, it was new, and just the prospect of talking about it in school was kinda exciting when we were like 11. Back in 2021 Daniel used to add me and a bunch of people from the Larson lore (i.e. Sabbath, Lil Sid, etc) to these group chats where he’d literally be like “Okay so has anyone ever had sex? What did it feel like? Was it warm? What did you think about during it?”'' ''Super strange, he’d just fire off questions like that. I definitely have screenshots somewhere in Google photos."''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11sj45w/comment/jcezmr4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>
</blockquote>
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 3.png|left|thumb|445x445px|"Are you ok with telling me what it felt like"]]
Daniel shows a lack of understanding around sex, often wondering and asking if rape feels any good at all. He is very apathetic about consent and to a larger extent, rape. When a troll pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]] [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Grace_VanderWaal#Grace_Rape_Troll told him that she was being raped], he asked if it felt good and various other questions as to what being raped was like. This was presumably so Daniel could get off to the thought of his favorite celebrity and long-time crush engaging in sexual activity. Perhaps he asked these questions because the troll was pretending to be Grace, but even people who aren't Grace VanderWaal are asked similar questions.

This behavior is most likely explained by his ignorance about the world, which causes him to be quite naïve about how bad rape actually is. To Daniel, it is nothing more than another word for sex.

===== Pedophilia =====
''Main Article: [[Pedophilia]]''

Pedophilia has always been a touchy subject for Daniel. During the initial leaking of Daniel's [[Pinterest|Pinterest account]], he had at first attempted to deny all claims that he was a pedophile, pretending he hadn't even known what Pinterest was, before backtracking and boldly admitting it to the camera.

Daniel's pedophilia dates as far back to when he was 18, where he had seen 12 year-old [[Grace VanderWaal]] on ''America's Got Talent''. Daniel's grandmother [[Nancy Shimer]] told Daniel that he would have a chance at dating Grace, which resulted in Daniel's years long obsession with Grace, sexual fantasies about Grace, and stalking[Citation needed]. Even though Grace is now an adult, during the years when Daniel started TikTok she was still underage, and Daniel did not shy away from talking about her in inappropriate ways. When messaging with trolls who pretended to be Grace, Daniel had (and still presumably has) a habit of sending photos of Grace from her childhood which he attempted to sexualize[Citation Needed].

Daniel is well aware of the allegations of pedophilia against him, and has vehemently denied it. To try to salvage his reputation, when he spoke to a person he thought was a minor on Kik, [[Pedophilia#Kik sting| he changed his name to "Bill Carter" in an attempt to evade suspicion and throw people off his scent.]] Events such as this highlight that Daniel is [https://www.lacriminaldefenseattorney.com/legal-dictionary/c/consciousness-of-guilt/|fully aware that what he's doing is wrong], although he shows no sign of stopping.

Additionally, on January 16, 2023, Daniel admitted on a livestream that he is indeed a pedophile, admitting so to "be able to put an end to it", which was screen-recorded by Reddit user Competitive-Poem-206 and posted to the subreddit.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10dznjh/daniel_admits_to_being_a_pedophile_on_live/</ref>

===== Sex Toys =====
Daniel has made numerous purchases for sex toys, his go-to toy being a fleshlight, or "pocket pussy".
[[File:Daniel Fleshlight Chat 1.png|thumb|Danny you dirty dog.]]
On July 30th, 2023, he purchased one of them from a sex shop while speaking to another fake [[Grace VanderWaal|Grace]] troll.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15ei235/more_texts_daniel_sent_to_grace_he_bought_a/</ref> The fleshlight was bought using money that [[Bob Proctor]] had supplied to Daniel to buy essentials such as food, water, and clothes, which he never did.
[[File:Daniel Fleshlight Chat 2.png|left|thumb|Daniel showing off the fleshlight.]]
In these messages, Daniel claims that he was getting something for "us", as if the troll was going to feel Daniel using the fleshlight. Using Bob's money, he purchased a fleshlight from a sex shop (which sex shop is unknown), and showed it off to the troll. Daniel lost the bag he kept the fleshlight in.
[[File:Daniels Fleshlight.png|thumb|292x292px|Daniel showing off his fleshlight on his TikTok account.]]
On August 15th, 2023, Daniel purchased 4 more fleshlights, 2 of them resembling a man's anus. Daniel claimed to have spent $500 dollars that day. Daniel's reasoning for buying all four instead of just one is unknown. Daniel's obsession with buying expensive things instead of saving his resources while homeless is a mystery. Due to Daniel's homelessness, there is a very strong chance that if he ever gets around to using these toys, they will most likely remain uncleaned and absolutely filthy.

When Daniel was arrested in Boulder, a fleshlight could be seen in bodycam footage of the officer searching his backpack. The fleshlight was not removed by the officer.

==Usage of Drugs==
While he doesn't often show it, Daniel has used both prescription and more illicit drugs. He has largely abandoned the usage of prescription drugs likely owing to their high cost and his lack of insurance, but he has drank and consumed marijuana (albeit through a hotbox, and not of his own volition) before. There is no evidence (yet, at least) to suggest Daniel has smoked tobacco or done any hard drugs (which can range in nature from psychedelic mushrooms to methamphetamine.)

===Alcohol===
There is some evidence to suggest at least a few of his meltdowns can be attributed to alcohol usage, with at least a part of the [[July 2022 Electronic Destruction Spree|tech destruction spree in July of 2022]] having Daniel claim he slammed a device on the concrete. [[File:Drinky.jpg|thumb]] His alcoholic beverage of choice is beer, with Daniel being known to have stated he was going out for beers at least once. [[File:Gotta have that beer.jpg|thumb]]

Daniel claims alcoholism is part of what ruined his life, stating he was pressured into alcohol (perhaps by past [[Management]]) and became addicted. He can be seen drinking it whenever he is more well off than usual and oftentimes when he is at sporting events, see [[Timeline]]. It is generally believed that if Daniel was better off, his drinking would likely be far more regular, perhaps to the point of it being a problem.

===Marijuana===
Daniel has been under the influence of marijuana before, though the only evidence of this comes as a result of being hotboxed by fans. Daniel's reaction in this particular case appears to be excitedly screaming and yelling, perhaps as a result of the specific strain of marijuana being a sativa strain, or at the least a sativa-heavy hybrid strain. It could also be possible that Daniel had a negative experience that caused him to panic, although his excitement generally suggests the former.

== Other Issues ==

=== Red Robin Poisoning ===
''Main article: [[Red Robin Poisoning]]''

Daniel admitted himself to the hospital on April 11, 2024 complaining about a "stomach bug" after vomiting a lot, likely from poisoned food from Red Robin. He was discharged a day later, before coming back due to migraines.

==References==
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Daniel and health

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A predominant theme in the [[Daniel Larson]] saga is Daniel's chronic [[Daniel and Mental Health|mental health issues]] and his deteriorating physical health.

Considering his underweightness, poor nutrition, refusal to bathe, chronic self-harming, and the uncleanliness of his surroundings, Daniel is at extreme risk of a premature death due to all of these combined factors.

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== Physical Health ==
[[File:DanielsAwfulBody.png|thumb|Is this physique natty attainable?|386x386px]]
Daniel is very obviously not physically fit, and is notably underweight. His various [[Daniel's Criminal History|warrants]] have listed his basic information. Daniel is a 5'10" Caucasian male who weighs about 115 pounds (equivalent to a BMI of 16.4), which according to the Center for Disease and Control is underweight.<ref>[[File:Image213124.png|thumb]]
</ref> In 2024, his hospital records from the [[Red Robin Poisoning]] stated a weight of 119 pounds and a BMI of 17.07, which, even then, still classifies as underweight.

In addition, his physical strength is notably very weak. During the [[College Arc]], he was challenged to bench press an empty barbell, which typically weighs about 45lbs (or 20kg), his arms collapsed under the weight of it, and another student had to step in to prevent him from being crushed. For comparison, the average American male in their mid-twenties can usually bench press around 216 pounds (or 98kg), meaning Daniel's strength is less than a fifth of what the average man can lift.

Daniel is notable for his unique body, from his small stature, to his sunken in chest, to his abnormally large feet. It is unclear why he looks the way he does, but it is speculated that Daniel suffers from a physical disease such as Progeria, which is an extremely rare, progressive genetic disorder. It causes children to age rapidly, starting in their first two years of life. Though, this seems unlikely, as the lifespan of those with progeria is typically less than 15.<ref>https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/progeria/symptoms-causes/syc-20356038</ref>

== Diet and Nutrition ==
Put simply, Daniel does not have a very good diet. Daniel's diet mainly consists of meals from fast food chains such as McDonalds, [[Panera Bread Incident|Panera Bread]], and [[Olive Garden Incident|Olive Garden]]. At one point, Daniel purchased over 3 mac n cheese dishes from Panera Bread, not realizing that, for one, he didn't need to eat that much, and two, it was insanely unhealthy. The caloric content of these dishes often exceed fast food burgers. His diet also contributes in large part to many of his health issues, as well as his [[Finances|financial problems.]]

It doesn't help at all that Daniel barely any water consumption, often drinking soda, juice, and milkshakes. The sugary contents of these beverages breaks down the enamel of his teeth, further worsening the state of his dental health, compounded by his refusal to brush his teeth.

During the several [[Jail (Disambiguation)|jail arcs]], Daniel seemed to have regained color in his face, and looked significantly healthier. This is likely due to him being completely unable to beg for money to spend on junk food.

== Living Conditions ==
[[File:Scabies.png|thumb|A photo of Daniel's scabies rashes]]The most notable thing about Daniel Larson is his profound lack of housing. Simply put, Daniel's living conditions are less than adequate. Ever since the beginning of the [[Homeless Era]] in late 2021, Daniel has spent close to 3 years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. Due to being homeless, coupled with an aversion to most forms of [[Daniel's Hygiene|hygiene]], and being profoundly unsanitary, he is at high risk of disease and infection.<ref>https://www.cdc.gov/hygiene/fast-facts.html</ref>

The several sleep streams and photos of homeless shelters he has shared showcase a less than clean environment. Due to this, Daniel became accustom to sleeping out in the open, porta-potties, and establishments he loiters at.

Due to these conditions, Daniel was eventually diagnosed with '''Scabies'''. Scabies is a highly contagious infection of the skin by the small mite ''sarcoptes scabiei,'' which he most likely picked up after sleeping out in the open, where he was victim to many a bugbite''.''<ref>[https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash.]</ref><ref>[https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/scabies/index.html#:~:text=Human%20scabies%20is%20caused%20by,a%20pimple%2Dlike%20skin%20rash.]</ref> Daniel first showed signs of scabies sometime in early 2023 during the [[Las Vegas Arc]], when he was [[Homeless Arc|homeless]] in [[Las Vegas]]. Daniel was seen wearing the same clothes for weeks at a time and not bathing even when he had the chance to. Streets are knowingly not clean, and in porta-potties around other homeless people who were highly likely to have carried disease. <ref>https://963kklz.com/listicle/las-vegas-ranks-in-dirtiest-cities-in-america-see-whos-number-one/</ref> Out of fear of the infection spreading, warnings about Daniel were spread on Facebook, warning people to stay away from him and to visit the hospital if they were in close contact.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10giimx/larson_got_famous_in_anaheim_109_shares_81/</ref>

Daniel was prescribed a lotion for this issue, to which he proceeded to not use it all all.{{Citation Needed}} Eventually, the scabies became so severe it got to the point he was bleeding out of his skin. Daniel went to the hospital and received a dose of Ivermectin and was cleaned off. Following the visit, his scabies went into remission.

== Podiatric Health ==
[[File:TrenchFoot.png|left|thumb|350x350px|He's gonna be singing in a wheelchair pretty soon!]]
Podiatry, or podiatric medicine and surgery, is a branch of medicine devoted to the study, diagnosis, and treatment of disorders of the foot, ankle and lower limb.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podiatry</ref>

Unsurprisingly, Daniel's podiatric health has taken a significant nosedive as well. In early 2023, Daniel contracted trench foot, posting that due to having worn the same [[Mold Socks|moldy socks]] for months, his feet were becoming black, emitting a foul odor, and bleeding profusely.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10ezoww/danderson_says_his_trench_foot_blisters_are/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10ezoww/danderson_says_his_trench_foot_blisters_are/</ref><ref>https://archive.org/details/7128085146779061550</ref> Upon closer inspection, Daniel has a large plantar wart at the bottom of his heel, which is not very severe, but what he does have that is concerning is discoloration of the foot, and odd splotches at the sole of his foot, which ''could'' be early necrosis.

This is most likely a result of Daniel not being able to keep off of his feet due to homelessness, only exacerbated by the fact he refused to use his money to buy a new pair of socks, let alone medicine for his issues. favoring expensive macaroni and cheese and trips to the Cheesecake factory instead. When visiting a hospital doctor told Daniel to keep his feet dry, limit his walking, change his socks often, and find a homeless shelter or hotel to sleep at. Daniel proceeded to do none of this.{{Citation Needed}} Trench foot, if it gets severe enough, can require amputation. This is a severe disorder, and recently Daniel has posted videos of his feet bleeding due to damage.
[[File:MusicalTheater2.png|thumb|308x308px|He sticks out like a sore thumb.]]
Daniel's ankle is also noted to be massively inflamed, and his toenails have become a dark shade of black and/or brown.<ref name=":2">https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10m21eg/his_fucking_foot_ew/</ref> It could be sign of infection, injury, too much walking (which doesn't help his trench foot at all), or lack of proper blood flow to the area. It could also be lymphedema, which can be a result of bacteria or some sort of contamination. A major concern with Daniel is a possible blood clot or circulation issues, as he is noted to have talked about losing feeling in his foot.

It is also likely that Daniel has a foot deformity. In pictures from his youth, Daniel's feel are notably disproportionate compared to his body. Although, what causes this is unknown.

== Rhinologic Health ==
[[File:DanielNose.png|left|thumb|267x267px|One nose to rule them all. ]]
One of the defining factors of Daniel's appearence is his abnormally large nose. It is unclear as to why it is so big, and one can only assume why.

On April 5th, 2023, Daniel had a large, distinctive laceration on his nose as a result of an [[Bodega Incident|altercation with a bodega employee]]. Daniel kept picking off the scab, showing off a bleeding hole located at the middle of his nose. This scab was dubbed as “Scabfrica” due to it vaguely resembling the continent of Africa. Several of his videos were hidden by TikTok due to how gory they were. He could be seen later with gauze in, and a bandage on his nose.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWMP1Dmz1dc&ab_channel=DanielLarsonCurator</ref>

== Dental Health ==
[[File:Daniel-Larson-1.jpg|thumb|284x284px|What's up, doc?]]Abundantly clear, Daniel obviously suffers from dental problems. He lacks most of his teeth due to suffering from hypodontia, which is the developmental absence of one or more teeth excluding the third molars.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypodontia</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/yyzo0q/comment/iwy2onl/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Comment]"I know it wasnt asked this time specifically but I've seen people inquiring about it before:

Daniel is missing teeth due to a condition called Hypodontia. It is when you fail to develop some/all of your adult teeth. It can be inherited or caused by illnesses in infancy. He did have a full set of teeth baby teeth but when the baby ones fell out, there was no teeth to replace them in a few spots.

He also never brushes them and drinks soda exclusively."</ref> Due to him never having his teeth replaced with a second set, Daniel was left with a maw lacking in teeth. His teeth have also visibly yellowed, and it is a mystery as to why Daniel hasn't accrued a single cavity. It can be argued that Daniel doesn't know how to use a toothbrush, because when he had access to one, [[The Toothbrush Incident|he shoved it in his ass]].

Due to his homeless (which seems to affect almost everything he does), it is more difficult for him to brush his teeth. He also doesn't want to because of his aversion to general hygiene, with dental hygiene being the last thing he'd ever consider. As a result of his lack of money, insurance, and laziness, Daniel is not able to visit a dentist, crooked teeth going unstraightened. He visibly has a misshapen dental arch. His front 2 teeth are different sizes, possibly from unfixed crowding, and only his front 2 teeth are displayed while talking, possibly a sign of an overbite.

Factoring in his diet, Daniel's teeth are most likely being worn down every time he drinks sugary soda or energy drinks, rarely having any sort of water intake.

Overall, due to a lack of a dentist and dental hygiene, Daniel's dental health is extremely poor.
== Mental Health==
[[Daniel and Mental Health|As noted]], Daniel has a less than positive relationship with his own mental health. He is significantly mentally ill, being diagnosed with Autism, PTSD, Bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia. Daniel's mental health significantly impacts him, evidenced through his most notable trait, his [[delusions]]. It doesn't help either that he refuses to receive help for them, refusing therapists time and time again, and denying antipsychotics when prescribed to him.

Daniel will engage in [[Self Harm|self-harm]] by banging his head on objects and hitting himself, usually when he is frustrated, having a [[Meltdowns|meltdown]], or when extremely agitated. Daniel has self-harmed many times, punching and slapping himself in the face in an attempt to voice his frustration. Even more dangerously, Daniel is known to have hit himself until he bled during the [[Panera Bread Incident|Panera Bread incident.]] Head banging and punching oneself while under duress is probably a result of autism, as about 30% of autistic children engage in these behaviors.<ref>https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/autism-self-harm/</ref> This may also be a result of bipolar disorder, as up to 50% of sufferers of the disorder exhibit self-harming behaviors and the resultant injuries.<ref>[https://mypsychiatrist.com/blog/psychiatric-disorders-at-risk-for-self-injury/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%2C%20about%2050,by%20psychosis%2C%20which%20feel%20uncontrollable. https://mypsychiatrist.com/blog/psychiatric-disorders-at-risk-for-self-injury/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%2C%20about%2050,by%20psychosis%2C%20which%20feel%20uncontrollable.]</ref>

Daniel, being autistic and mentally ill, needs prescription medication to control himself. In spite of this, he refuses to fill his prescriptions largely because he is lazy and believes he doesn't need them (and mostly because they are too expensive for him to purchase due to his lack of budgeting skills). Daniel is currently prescribed Latuda and one other unknown medication.

== Sexual Health ==
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Daniel once asked "Do old men feel like they cum worms and cry in bed?".<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1b67h0i/this_dude_is_not_real/</ref>

== Understanding of Sex ==
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Daniel has an extremely poor and warped view of sexual intercourse, mostly stemming from his stunted sexual development, comprehension skills, and mental age. This is most likely a factor behind his alleged [[pedophilia]], and also potentially even because of [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Pedophilia#Daniel's_Sexual_Deviance_and_Possible_Sexual_Trauma sexual abuse in his past]. Though this is not an excuse/justification for this.
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 1.png|thumb|541x541px|"Who has had sex and who hasn't"]]
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 2.png|left|thumb|"Who has had sex and who hasn't" "I have not" ]]
Daniel has an incredibly childish view of sex and what sex is like, so much so that Daniel idolizes it and has odd ideas of how sex works. He knows very little about sex; he is noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Daniel has called ejaculation "..the peeing feeling"[Citation needed]. Most of Daniel's sexual fantasies are recreations of what he pictures within his mind and not from sexual experience. Daniel has admitted on various occasions that he is a virgin.

Daniel seems very interested in furthering his sexual education, often asking people via private messages if they have had sex, what it felt like, and other similar questions. Even in group messages, Daniel did not shy away from showing his unbridled sexual inquiries.

A person who was in one of these group chat documents their experiences, posted on the r/daniellarson subreddit.<blockquote>
''"He has an incredibly childish view of sex and what sex is like, to the point he idolizes sex and has very weird fantasies and ideas of how sex works. This furthers the point that he has a very childish mind, potentially even because of sexual abuse in the past."''

''"He’s VERY intrigued on furthering his sexual education. Kinda like how when most of us had to watch “the movie” growing up before graduating elementary school. It was funny, it was new, and just the prospect of talking about it in school was kinda exciting when we were like 11. Back in 2021 Daniel used to add me and a bunch of people from the Larson lore (i.e. Sabbath, Lil Sid, etc) to these group chats where he’d literally be like “Okay so has anyone ever had sex? What did it feel like? Was it warm? What did you think about during it?”'' ''Super strange, he’d just fire off questions like that. I definitely have screenshots somewhere in Google photos."''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11sj45w/comment/jcezmr4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>
</blockquote>
[[File:Daniel Group Chat Messages 3.png|left|thumb|445x445px|"Are you ok with telling me what it felt like"]]
Daniel shows a lack of understanding around sex, often wondering and asking if rape feels any good at all. He is very apathetic about consent and to a larger extent, rape. When a troll pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]] [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Grace_VanderWaal#Grace_Rape_Troll told him that she was being raped], he asked if it felt good and various other questions as to what being raped was like. This was presumably so Daniel could get off to the thought of his favorite celebrity and long-time crush engaging in sexual activity. Perhaps he asked these questions because the troll was pretending to be Grace, but even people who aren't Grace VanderWaal are asked similar questions.

This behavior is most likely explained by his ignorance about the world, which causes him to be quite naïve about how bad rape actually is. To Daniel, it is nothing more than another word for sex.

===== Pedophilia =====
''Main Article: [[Pedophilia]]''

Pedophilia has always been a touchy subject for Daniel. During the initial leaking of Daniel's [[Pinterest|Pinterest account]], he had at first attempted to deny all claims that he was a pedophile, pretending he hadn't even known what Pinterest was, before backtracking and boldly admitting it to the camera.

Daniel's pedophilia dates as far back to when he was 18, where he had seen 12 year-old [[Grace VanderWaal]] on ''America's Got Talent''. Daniel's grandmother [[Nancy Shimer]] told Daniel that he would have a chance at dating Grace, which resulted in Daniel's years long obsession with Grace, sexual fantasies about Grace, and stalking[Citation needed]. Even though Grace is now an adult, during the years when Daniel started TikTok she was still underage, and Daniel did not shy away from talking about her in inappropriate ways. When messaging with trolls who pretended to be Grace, Daniel had (and still presumably has) a habit of sending photos of Grace from her childhood which he attempted to sexualize[Citation Needed].

Daniel is well aware of the allegations of pedophilia against him, and has vehemently denied it. To try to salvage his reputation, when he spoke to a person he thought was a minor on Kik, [[Pedophilia#Kik sting| he changed his name to "Bill Carter" in an attempt to evade suspicion and throw people off his scent.]] Events such as this highlight that Daniel is [https://www.lacriminaldefenseattorney.com/legal-dictionary/c/consciousness-of-guilt/|fully aware that what he's doing is wrong], although he shows no sign of stopping.

Additionally, on January 16, 2023, Daniel admitted on a livestream that he is indeed a pedophile, admitting so to "be able to put an end to it", which was screen-recorded by Reddit user Competitive-Poem-206 and posted to the subreddit.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/10dznjh/daniel_admits_to_being_a_pedophile_on_live/</ref>

===== Sex Toys =====
Daniel has made numerous purchases for sex toys, his go-to toy being a fleshlight, or "pocket pussy".
[[File:Daniel Fleshlight Chat 1.png|thumb|Danny you dirty dog.]]
On July 30th, 2023, he purchased one of them from a sex shop while speaking to another fake [[Grace VanderWaal|Grace]] troll.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15ei235/more_texts_daniel_sent_to_grace_he_bought_a/</ref> The fleshlight was bought using money that [[Bob Proctor]] had supplied to Daniel to buy essentials such as food, water, and clothes, which he never did.
[[File:Daniel Fleshlight Chat 2.png|left|thumb|Daniel showing off the fleshlight.]]
In these messages, Daniel claims that he was getting something for "us", as if the troll was going to feel Daniel using the fleshlight. Using Bob's money, he purchased a fleshlight from a sex shop (which sex shop is unknown), and showed it off to the troll. Daniel lost the bag he kept the fleshlight in.
[[File:Daniels Fleshlight.png|thumb|292x292px|Daniel showing off his fleshlight on his TikTok account.]]
On August 15th, 2023, Daniel purchased 4 more fleshlights, 2 of them resembling a man's anus. Daniel claimed to have spent $500 dollars that day. Daniel's reasoning for buying all four instead of just one is unknown. Daniel's obsession with buying expensive things instead of saving his resources while homeless is a mystery. Due to Daniel's homelessness, there is a very strong chance that if he ever gets around to using these toys, they will most likely remain uncleaned and absolutely filthy.

When Daniel was arrested in Boulder, a fleshlight could be seen in bodycam footage of the officer searching his backpack. The fleshlight was not removed by the officer.

==Usage of Drugs==
While he doesn't often show it, Daniel has used both prescription and more illicit drugs. He has largely abandoned the usage of prescription drugs likely owing to their high cost and his lack of insurance, but he has drank and consumed marijuana (albeit through a hotbox, and not of his own volition) before. There is no evidence (yet, at least) to suggest Daniel has smoked tobacco or done any hard drugs (which can range in nature from psychedelic mushrooms to methamphetamine.)

===Alcohol===
There is some evidence to suggest at least a few of his meltdowns can be attributed to alcohol usage, with at least a part of the [[July 2022 Electronic Destruction Spree|tech destruction spree in July of 2022]] having Daniel claim he slammed a device on the concrete. [[File:Drinky.jpg|thumb]] His alcoholic beverage of choice is beer, with Daniel being known to have stated he was going out for beers at least once. [[File:Gotta have that beer.jpg|thumb]]

Daniel claims alcoholism is part of what ruined his life, stating he was pressured into alcohol (perhaps by past [[Management]]) and became addicted. He can be seen drinking it whenever he is more well off than usual and oftentimes when he is at sporting events, see [[Timeline]]. It is generally believed that if Daniel was better off, his drinking would likely be far more regular, perhaps to the point of it being a problem.

===Marijuana===
Daniel has been under the influence of marijuana before, though the only evidence of this comes as a result of being hotboxed by fans. Daniel's reaction in this particular case appears to be excitedly screaming and yelling, perhaps as a result of the specific strain of marijuana being a sativa strain, or at the least a sativa-heavy hybrid strain. It could also be possible that Daniel had a negative experience that caused him to panic, although his excitement generally suggests the former.

== Other Issues ==

=== Red Robin Poisoning ===
''Main article: [[Red Robin Poisoning]]''

Daniel admitted himself to the hospital on April 11, 2024 complaining about a "stomach bug" after vomiting a lot, likely from poisoned food from Red Robin. He was discharged a day later, before coming back due to migraines.

==References==
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Lucas

2025-03-07T16:27:42Z

Trestletrouble:

''Not to be confused with [[Luke]], a manager from 2022.''{{Doxxing}}
{{Credibility|reason=Has a history of lying, impersonating others, false threats of legal action, and use of ad hominem attacks against those he dislikes}}{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|Lucas is a controversial figure in the Daniel Larson community and is aware of and critical of this page's existence. Due to this, this article is prone to vandalism. Trust only sourced claims, as some may be intentionally misleading.}}
{{Quote|On the daniel larson wiki tried to help daniel out|author=Lucas's discord bio.}}
<ref>https://archive.org/details/proposed-complaint-1</ref>

==Discovery==
[[File:LucasUbereatsorder.png|left|thumb|204x204px|UberEats order Lucas purchased for Daniel. ]]
[[File:LucasTrain.png|thumb|352x352px|Lucas, threatening to kill himself. ]]
On December 15th, 2023, Daniel created a new [[Cameo Arc|Cameo]] account under the name of ''Daniellarsonwork2024''. This surprised many, as he had been previously banned from the service. In videos made from this time, Daniel claimed that "Grace" helped him get unbanned from Cameo.<ref>https://archive.org/details/7313058506159050014</ref> Of course, this was merely Lucas impersonating Grace. Lucas used the TikTok account, @gracevanderwaaldenver, to gain Daniel's trust. Under the moniker of Grace, Lucas would post orders he'd placed for Daniel via UberEats (and foolishly leaving his name in the video), as well as giving Daniel money for motels.

Lucas would also give Daniel money on his live streams, utterly unaware that Daniel could not collect any of this money because he did not have a viable PayPal acount to connect to his TikTok account. In a message on Reddit, Lucas claimed that he raised over $5,000 for Daniel via the TikTok creator fund, although the validity of this is unknown.<ref>https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232919446298034197/1269079407507673169/image.jpg?ex=66b8a50d&is=66b7538d&hm=73e87063ee09c4a81eb9bd014290dad3b6a076f8b9ab30432163291a632abc30&</ref>

Additionally, on the 22nd of 2023, Lucas would start a GoFundMe in an attempt to raise money in hopes of getting Daniel off the streets before Christmas, listing his TikTok in the description of it.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18ol83p/lucas_begging_for_money_on_his_tiktok/#lightbox</ref> The goal for this GoFundMe was 300 dollars, and the name it was listed under was "Luka Da Silva." It is unclear as to why Lucas went under this name. But, this would eventually be used to find out his true identity. Daniel's new Cameo account would be quickly banned once more, and the GoFundMe failed. This fake Grace account was eventually looked into alongside a number of other accounts, including @Daniellarsonpredator and @Lukka.gg, were found. After being doxxed, many scrutinized Lucas for helping Daniel, especially in light of his [[Pedophilia|pedophilic behavior]].

After being doxxed, Lucas would release an apology on his TikTok account, posting black screens with text reading things such as "I am sorry for buying Daniel food," as well as "surrendering" to those who had his personal information. Lucas offered $300 to not have any more of his information leaked, threatening to end his life. <gallery>
File:Apology1.png
File:Apology2.png
</gallery>Soon after, Lucas would scrub his account pretending to be Grace VanderWaal of all of its content and deactivate @daniellarsonpredator.
==TikTok Sockpuppet accounts==
[[File:FakeLarsonleakaccount.png|thumb|288x288px|Lucas' fake account impersonating LarsonLeak. ]]
Starting in May 2024, Lucas would begin impersonating several people. The first of which was LarsonLeak, a YouTube channel run by Daniel's past manager, [[Flexburger]]. On May 3rd, Lucas was contacted by Flexburger, who politely asked him to change his account name, as he was completely unaffiliated with him, and did not want anyone to think that his account belonged to him, or anyone else who had collaborated with LarsonLeak. Lucas replied to this by saying, "Do you not have bigger things to worry about right now,".
As of July 2024, the account has 90k followers.
In July, following the [[Second Jail Arc]], Lucas would create the account @daniellarsonprison2024.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e579bs/daniel_larson_prison_2024/</ref> On this account, he would pretend to be Daniel while he was still in jail, post fake photos of his food, and making posts about his issues finding ways to keep his phone battery charged. This account was theorized to be Daniel's account, but it was quickly dismissed, as the account only reposted videos from the past.
==List of Sockpuppets==
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Username
!Time of Creation
!Notes
|-
|@daniellarsonpredator
|December 2023
|Deactivated after being doxxed.
|-
|@gracevanderwaaldenver
|December 2023
|Not active, content has been scrubbed - impersonating Grace VanderWaal
|-
|@lukka.gg
|December 2023
|Deactivated, scrubbed
|-
|@daniellarsonfree2024
|March 2024
|Currently active account, impersonating Daniel while he is incarcerated.
|-
|@larsonleak
|May 2024
|Currently active account, impersonating [[Flexburger]] on TikTok.
|}

== Response to Article ==
[[File:SelfDefenseWord1.png|thumb|I suppose he isn't fond of [[Transgender|trance genders]].]]
Shortly after his article was made, Lucas, on July 30th, 2024, created an account on this very Wiki. His first action in response to the article made about him was to attempt and vandalize it, before being banned by the abuse filter.

On August 2nd, Lucas created a new topic on the Admin's talk page, demanding the article written about him be removed and making vague threats.<ref>[[User talk:Admin]]</ref>
{{Quote|Hello,

I’m requesting that you would please delete the page about me from this wiki. Numerous claims that are written on there are absolutely untrue. I do not run the TikTok account @daniellarsonprison2024 therefore when you are writing that ‘ The account has a fake cashtag in bio where he scams people for money ‘ you are falsely accusing me of fraud.

As my full name is still logged in the page history this page appears when my name is searched into google which means any potential employers/universities are going to see your false claims. This is absolutely libel/defamation and if I am able to get your details from the domain registrar you are going to have a big problem.|author=Lucas}}
[[File:SelfDefenseWord2.png|left|thumb|321x321px|[[Porch Charging Incident|"Okay, nigger."]]]]
In response, the admin responded cordially, not deleting his article, instead choosing to hide the entire page history, and encouraging Lucas to remove any information he deemed to be defamatory. Following this, Lucas would remove a majority of information from his article, removing citations and images that substantiated claims made. In his edit history, he claimed these actions to be "factually correct." In this revision of the article, it was stated that his reasoning for creating a GoFundMe for Daniel was because, "people wanted to see him die on the streets." Not long after, this revision was undone, resulting in the admin reinstating Lucas' previous edit. When questioned about this, they elaborated by saying that they were receiving threats of legal action from Lucas.

On August 3rd, Lucas messaged wiki editor KanamoriKamper, initiating the conversation by saying he "hated trannies," and calling him the [[Self Defense Word|self-defense word]]. When asked on why he did so, Lucas pretended to be black, gave information about his employment at Uber, and continued to claim that he was being defamed by his inclusion on the wiki. Soon after, he explained his reasoning for interacting Daniel was to manipulate him for more content, further evidencing why he had an article made about him in the first place.<ref>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jcP-z58-7ulgv0ILRmN_1cFikUSuXWaz/view?usp=sharing (archive: https://files.catbox.moe/fk5pow.mov)</ref>

Of course, this did not help his case at all.

== Legal threats and Destruction of the DL Wiki ==
''See article: [[Deletion of the Daniel Larson Wiki|Destruction of the old wiki]]''

==References==
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Talk:Lucas

2025-03-07T16:26:56Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page Talk:Lucas to Talk:Penis

== On Lucas' full name. ==

As well all know, Lucas caused a stink and got the old wiki taken down.
However, his name is now fair game, as he filed several lawsuits in United States jurisdiction. In America, all lawsuits are public record, which means he has made his name public on his own volition (due to legal information like names needing to be included in full on all documents).

Lucas

2025-03-07T16:26:56Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page Lucas to Penis

''Not to be confused with [[Luke]], a manager from 2022.''{{Doxxing}}
{{Credibility|reason=Has a history of lying, impersonating others, false threats of legal action, and use of ad hominem attacks against those he dislikes}}{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|Lucas is a controversial figure in the Daniel Larson community and is aware of and critical of this page's existence. Due to this, this article is prone to vandalism. Trust only sourced claims, as some may be intentionally misleading.}}
{{Quote|I'm going to jump in front of train|author=Lucas, when confronted for enabling Daniel.}}
{{Quote|On the daniel larson wiki tried to help daniel out|author=Lucas's discord bio.}}{{Infobox|infoboxHeader=Lucas|image=LucasPic.png|imageDesc=Lucas' passport photo|name=Lucas Sebastian Gunatilleke |Knownas=Lauren Albento, Lawrence, Luka Da Silva, Daniellarsonpredator|Alignment=Enabler|Nationality=British|Race=Sri Lankan|Gender=Male|Arcs=}}
'''Lucas Sebastian Gunatilleke'''<ref>https://archive.org/details/proposed-complaint-1</ref> is a lesser known [[Enablers|enabler]] and impersonator of [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]]. He is known to have had repeatedly stuck his neck out to defend Daniel from hate, stick up for his actions, paying for his Uber Eats and booking him motel rooms, and even going as far as attempting to get him off the streets using money gained from a GoFundMe. In December 2023, Lucas, while pretending to be [[Grace VanderWaal]], attempted to set up another [[Cameo Arc|Cameo]] account for Daniel, which led to him eventually being doxxed.

He was able to fund money for Daniel through the creator fund on TikTok, and according to Lucas, he raised over $20,000 for Daniel. Following the [[Second Jail Arc]], Lucas went on an active impersonation spree, first impersonating [[Larsonleak|LarsonLeak]], and then Daniel. Lucas spends all day making TikTok accounts pretending to be Daniel, most notably one where he pretended to be Daniel while he was [[Daniel and the Law|incarcerated]]. Despite his accounts not being convincing at all, many fell for his ruse.

He also went under the name "Lauren Albento" on Discord, and would often brag, posting screenshots of how much money he made. Daniel would mention this account on multiple occasions, often mispronouncing his name as "Lawrence."

In August 2024, Lucas became aware of this very article, sending vague legal threats to the admin whilst not taking any sort of legal action, claiming he was a victim of defamation and libel, and calling a wiki editor a racial slur.

His infamy has since peaked as of 2025, wherein he began sharing around PDF documents of supposed lawsuits he filed against figures in the Larsonverse and wiki editors, with him being the chief perpetuator of the [[destruction of the old wiki]].

==Discovery==
[[File:LucasUbereatsorder.png|left|thumb|204x204px|UberEats order Lucas purchased for Daniel. ]]
[[File:LucasTrain.png|thumb|352x352px|Lucas, threatening to kill himself. ]]
On December 15th, 2023, Daniel created a new [[Cameo Arc|Cameo]] account under the name of ''Daniellarsonwork2024''. This surprised many, as he had been previously banned from the service. In videos made from this time, Daniel claimed that "Grace" helped him get unbanned from Cameo.<ref>https://archive.org/details/7313058506159050014</ref> Of course, this was merely Lucas impersonating Grace. Lucas used the TikTok account, @gracevanderwaaldenver, to gain Daniel's trust. Under the moniker of Grace, Lucas would post orders he'd placed for Daniel via UberEats (and foolishly leaving his name in the video), as well as giving Daniel money for motels.

Lucas would also give Daniel money on his live streams, utterly unaware that Daniel could not collect any of this money because he did not have a viable PayPal acount to connect to his TikTok account. In a message on Reddit, Lucas claimed that he raised over $5,000 for Daniel via the TikTok creator fund, although the validity of this is unknown.<ref>https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232919446298034197/1269079407507673169/image.jpg?ex=66b8a50d&is=66b7538d&hm=73e87063ee09c4a81eb9bd014290dad3b6a076f8b9ab30432163291a632abc30&</ref>

Additionally, on the 22nd of 2023, Lucas would start a GoFundMe in an attempt to raise money in hopes of getting Daniel off the streets before Christmas, listing his TikTok in the description of it.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18ol83p/lucas_begging_for_money_on_his_tiktok/#lightbox</ref> The goal for this GoFundMe was 300 dollars, and the name it was listed under was "Luka Da Silva." It is unclear as to why Lucas went under this name. But, this would eventually be used to find out his true identity. Daniel's new Cameo account would be quickly banned once more, and the GoFundMe failed. This fake Grace account was eventually looked into alongside a number of other accounts, including @Daniellarsonpredator and @Lukka.gg, were found. After being doxxed, many scrutinized Lucas for helping Daniel, especially in light of his [[Pedophilia|pedophilic behavior]].

After being doxxed, Lucas would release an apology on his TikTok account, posting black screens with text reading things such as "I am sorry for buying Daniel food," as well as "surrendering" to those who had his personal information. Lucas offered $300 to not have any more of his information leaked, threatening to end his life. <gallery>
File:Apology1.png
File:Apology2.png
</gallery>Soon after, Lucas would scrub his account pretending to be Grace VanderWaal of all of its content and deactivate @daniellarsonpredator.
==TikTok Sockpuppet accounts==
[[File:FakeLarsonleakaccount.png|thumb|288x288px|Lucas' fake account impersonating LarsonLeak. ]]
Starting in May 2024, Lucas would begin impersonating several people. The first of which was LarsonLeak, a YouTube channel run by Daniel's past manager, [[Flexburger]]. On May 3rd, Lucas was contacted by Flexburger, who politely asked him to change his account name, as he was completely unaffiliated with him, and did not want anyone to think that his account belonged to him, or anyone else who had collaborated with LarsonLeak. Lucas replied to this by saying, "Do you not have bigger things to worry about right now,".
As of July 2024, the account has 90k followers.
In July, following the [[Second Jail Arc]], Lucas would create the account @daniellarsonprison2024.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e579bs/daniel_larson_prison_2024/</ref> On this account, he would pretend to be Daniel while he was still in jail, post fake photos of his food, and making posts about his issues finding ways to keep his phone battery charged. This account was theorized to be Daniel's account, but it was quickly dismissed, as the account only reposted videos from the past.
==List of Sockpuppets==
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Username
!Time of Creation
!Notes
|-
|@daniellarsonpredator
|December 2023
|Deactivated after being doxxed.
|-
|@gracevanderwaaldenver
|December 2023
|Not active, content has been scrubbed - impersonating Grace VanderWaal
|-
|@lukka.gg
|December 2023
|Deactivated, scrubbed
|-
|@daniellarsonfree2024
|March 2024
|Currently active account, impersonating Daniel while he is incarcerated.
|-
|@larsonleak
|May 2024
|Currently active account, impersonating [[Flexburger]] on TikTok.
|}

== Response to Article ==
[[File:SelfDefenseWord1.png|thumb|I suppose he isn't fond of [[Transgender|trance genders]].]]
Shortly after his article was made, Lucas, on July 30th, 2024, created an account on this very Wiki. His first action in response to the article made about him was to attempt and vandalize it, before being banned by the abuse filter.

On August 2nd, Lucas created a new topic on the Admin's talk page, demanding the article written about him be removed and making vague threats.<ref>[[User talk:Admin]]</ref>
{{Quote|Hello,

I’m requesting that you would please delete the page about me from this wiki. Numerous claims that are written on there are absolutely untrue. I do not run the TikTok account @daniellarsonprison2024 therefore when you are writing that ‘ The account has a fake cashtag in bio where he scams people for money ‘ you are falsely accusing me of fraud.

As my full name is still logged in the page history this page appears when my name is searched into google which means any potential employers/universities are going to see your false claims. This is absolutely libel/defamation and if I am able to get your details from the domain registrar you are going to have a big problem.|author=Lucas}}
[[File:SelfDefenseWord2.png|left|thumb|321x321px|[[Porch Charging Incident|"Okay, nigger."]]]]
In response, the admin responded cordially, not deleting his article, instead choosing to hide the entire page history, and encouraging Lucas to remove any information he deemed to be defamatory. Following this, Lucas would remove a majority of information from his article, removing citations and images that substantiated claims made. In his edit history, he claimed these actions to be "factually correct." In this revision of the article, it was stated that his reasoning for creating a GoFundMe for Daniel was because, "people wanted to see him die on the streets." Not long after, this revision was undone, resulting in the admin reinstating Lucas' previous edit. When questioned about this, they elaborated by saying that they were receiving threats of legal action from Lucas.

On August 3rd, Lucas messaged wiki editor KanamoriKamper, initiating the conversation by saying he "hated trannies," and calling him the [[Self Defense Word|self-defense word]]. When asked on why he did so, Lucas pretended to be black, gave information about his employment at Uber, and continued to claim that he was being defamed by his inclusion on the wiki. Soon after, he explained his reasoning for interacting Daniel was to manipulate him for more content, further evidencing why he had an article made about him in the first place.<ref>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jcP-z58-7ulgv0ILRmN_1cFikUSuXWaz/view?usp=sharing (archive: https://files.catbox.moe/fk5pow.mov)</ref>

Of course, this did not help his case at all.

== Legal threats and Destruction of the DL Wiki ==
''See article: [[Deletion of the Daniel Larson Wiki|Destruction of the old wiki]]''

==References==
<references />
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Clark

2025-03-07T16:26:30Z

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{{Quote|I have uh.. I have a goal in the end, and I'm not gonna say what it is or anything, but it- it's gonna happen soon, and he's gonna get whats coming.|Clark, about Daniel|quotesource=Clark}}
{{Quote|Hey, Clarky Warky, answer your phony wony.||author=Daniel, to Clark}}
{{Quote|This is the most important call of my life.|author=Clark, while speaking to Daniel}}{{Infobox|image=NewClarkImage.png|imageDesc=A picture of Clark.|name=Griffin|Knownas=Clark, Clark & Associates|Alignment=Management|DOB=July 29th, 2003 (21 yrs)|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Male|Arcs=}}
'''Griffin,''' also known as '''Clark''' or '''Clark & Associates,''' was one of [[Daniel Larson|Daniel Larson's]] most notable [[Management|managers]]. He is also a [[troll]] who was under the guise of being a lawyer for the [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaals]].<ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdhASGNW5o&ab_channel=larsonleakraw</ref>He is also the manager who has spent the most amount of time with Daniel, managing him for a whopping 10 months. Clark is now considered by many on the subreddit to be the next lolcow.

Clark is very controversial for actions such as fueling Daniel's dangerous delusions of being in contact with [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family, getting his associates to role-play as Grace and other famous people across several [[Daniel Larson Team and Family Management|discord servers]], and on a lesser, somewhat funnier scale, convincing Daniel that he was attending classes at [[UCLA Arc|UCLA]].<ref>[[Daniel Larson Team and Family Management]]</ref><ref>[[UCLA Arc]]</ref> He is also known for [[gatekeeping]] content of Daniel, leading Daniel into potentially dangerous situations where he had a meltdown in public spaces such as [[the Golden Hotel Incident]] and [[Olive Garden Incident|the Olive Garden Incident]], financially [[Enablers|enabling]] Daniel by supplying him with cash and gift cards, and being behind every call made to Daniel whilst he was in jail until the rise of [[Lil Sippy]].<ref>[[Daniel Larson Team and Family Management]]</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17impnb/the_starbucks_cards_he_stole_from_the_green_bag/</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V8f-Vg9YEw</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWfF2ZeHdbc</ref>

Clark initially found Daniel during the [[Las Vegas Arc]], to which he then "played the long game" until he managed to gain the title of Daniel's manager. His "firm's" name is watermarked on the Folsom County court hearing footage, as well as several other videos. Since then, Clark has been involved in many incidents, such as [[the Golden Hotel Incident]] and [[Olive Garden Incident|the Olive Garden Incident]] both wherein he convinced Daniel that he and Grace had bought a reservation at said establishment. When it was found there was not one, it ultimately resulted in Daniel causing damage to property inside the establishment and screaming profanities at the staff.

On December 17th, 2023, Clarks identity was revealed by one of Daniel's most prolific managers, [[Flexburger]]. Clark took part in an interview conducted by [[Larsonleak|LarsonLeak]],<ref name=":0" /> a channel Flexburger himself owns. Despite his identity being exposed, Clark still opted to manage Daniel, unlike [[Combotter|many]] [[Samantha|others]] who had quit after having their identities exposed.

However, on February 28th, 2024, Clark vanished from the Daniel Larson community and demanded for personally identifiable information about himself to be removed from his article from this very wiki so people could not track him. It was assumed that he officially cut ties with Daniel. However, this didn't last very long, as it was evident that Clark had not sunk his claws out of Daniel.

On May 1st, 2024, phone calls between Clark and Daniel surfaced, revealing that Daniel was [[Second Jail Arc|arrested by the FBI]]. It wouldn't be until later on that Clark gave him a another call, revealing that none of what he'd been doing up to that point was legitimate, and that he was lying to Daniel. After this, Clark quit managing him, and considering how things had been going, it seemed Clark may have been the last ever manager of Daniel Larson. However, he reappeared in the Larsonverse in September after another jail call, and then was succeeded by [[Lil Sippy]].

Clark has cemented himself as one of Daniel’s most controversial managers, as during the wake of the Second Jail Arc, he and other members of management were investigated by the FBI regarding threats Daniel had made.
== Background ==
Prior to managing Daniel, Clark attended high school, and had a "had a decent thing going" after graduating. Though, it appears he lost his luck, as Clark would be expelled from his college. This was due to the evident drinking problem that Clark had, and him doing "stupid things" that aren't known. After attending rehab, Clark channeled his obsession with drinking into Daniel. Seeing as Daniel was ripe for exploitation in the lead up to his interactions with him, Clark obtained his number from an unknown individual and started to message him until he gained Daniel's trust.

After becoming Daniel's manager, Clark alleged that they spoke more than 10 hours a week, to a point where it was interfering with his work schedule and relationship with his parents.<ref name=":0" /> This got to the point where Clark was reprimanded at his job for speaking to Daniel so much, so much so that his parents caught Clark talking to Daniel on Thanksgiving. This is given the fact that due to Daniel's homelessness and lack of resources and a job, he has almost nothing to do all day but talk to people on the phone and post on social media. Clark also claims that he felt connected to Daniel, as they were both similar in a way. However, Clark claims that was this was only so people would feel bad for him.
== Trolling ==
=== Manipulation ===
Clark and his associates mainly had conversations with Daniel in a [[Daniel Larson Team and Family Management|Discord server]], wherein they would roleplay as Daniel's delusions (most notably Grace VanderWaal) to gain Daniel's trust. These conversations came as far back as November of 2023 and can be found in the [[November 1st - November 13th DLTFM Logs]]. Clark was also one of many people who gaslit Daniel. Many of these gaslighting incidents led to Daniel having outbursts, such as [[The Golden Hotel Incident]], in which Clark insisted Daniel had a reservation for a room when he did not.

=== UCLA Arc ===
''Main article: [[UCLA Arc]]''

Also known as the Second College Arc, Clark and a few trolls deceived Daniel that he had been accepted into University of California, Los Angeles. Clark had convinced Daniel that he was paying for his classes, which consisted of absurd and questionable topics (such as the first king of “Ancient Texas” being “Ishid Anfarded”). This deception only lasted for 11 days, ending when Daniel was arrested on [[Jail Arc|February 3rd, 2024]].

== Relationships ==
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=== Daniel ===
''Main Article: [[Daniel Larson]]''

Daniel and Clark's relationship can only be described as unhealthy. For the time Clark managed him, Daniel viewed Clark as his only friend, and in their final calls to each other, Daniel begged Clark to keep being "friends" with him, when they never had such a relationship. For 10 months, Clark (at least, according to him) spoke to Daniel for almost the whole day, and was the only person he had that wasn't [[Bob Proctor]], or [[trolls]] trying to antagonize him.

=== Bob ===
''Main Article: [[Bob Proctor]]''

== * more will be added for Bob later :) ==
== "Retirement" ==
{{Needs Updating|Sources=[[Bob Proctor#Texts with Clark]], [[Second Jail Arc#Time in Jail]]}}[[File:Clark Farewell.jpeg|thumb|"Clark Out"|430x430px]]
[[File:ClarkArrest.png|left|thumb|310x310px|Looks like Clark Better Call Saul!]]
While he had “officially” retired from being Daniel’s management on March 1st, 2024, only to return in April 2024, Clark ''officially'' retired from being management in May 2024 following his arrest on [[Second Jail Arc|April 30th]].

Clark claimed to have been investigated by policemen that arrived to his place of work, showing a video of police scouting his workplace. From here on, Clark went radio silent especially to his management team which had led many to believe Clark was facing criminal charges for coercion and his involvement with Daniel. However, this was not the case as Clark revealed that while he was told by Secret Service agent [[Daniel MacDougall]] to not interfere with the investigation, he himself along with the rest of management would be investigated by law enforcement regarding certain statements he had made, which eventually brought him to justice. Clark claims that without him, Daniel would have never been brought to justice. Obviously, this is untrue.

While Daniel was in jail, they shared phone correspondence where Clark admit that everything he had done and told Daniel up to that point was a lie, and that he was ceasing contact with him permanently.

Following the release of [[Larsonleak|Larsonleak's]] video, Clark would make a post on the subreddit defending his own actions before ending the post with "Clark out", a saying that has become popular within the subreddit associated with Clark. Clark would cement himself as a separate lolcow within the Daniel Larson community, with his role and his means of getting rid of Daniel being a subject of immense debate, with the community being split upon the morality and tactics of Clark's actions to get Daniel locked up.

While Clark has retired from management and the creation of content, he has still been loosely involved in giving content to the community. He returned after Daniel called him from jail in September 2024.

=== Reddit Fallout ===
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== Post-Retirement/Return to Service ==
Larsonleak would make a video in September 2024, where it was revealed that Clark and Daniel had continued contact, and does so to this day. With another individual, Lil Sippy, contacting Daniel, Clark and Sippy would fight over who gets to have the most contact.

== See Also ==

* [[Ox]]
* [[Samantha]]
* [[Management]]

== External Links ==
{{Chronology}}

== References ==
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[[Category:Management]]

Management

2025-03-07T16:26:02Z

Trestletrouble:

''For information on Daniel Larson’s professional case managers, see [[Case Managers]]''{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|The Daniel Larson Wiki, and the community at large, strongly advise AGAINST trying to manage Daniel. While Daniel desires help, he does not want anything that is of true meaning to him, wanting to remain delusional. As good as your intentions may be, It is best to not interact with him, as many have tried and failed.}}

{{Quote|Management needs to stop telling me how to live my fucking life, before I fire everyone!||author=[[Daniel]], in a rare moment of self-awareness. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17g95n9/that_didnt_take_long/</ref>}}
[[File:NewClarkImage.png|thumb|300x300px|Clark, one of Daniel's most infamous managers.]]

Following the April 30th arrest and the subsequent [[Second Jail Arc]], management of Daniel largely ceased (though [[Clark]] still retained contact with him over the phone). With his transfer to and subsequent institutionalization at MCFP Springfield, management has effectively come to an end, or at least won't return for a period of several months, if not years.

penises are sucked everyday. They arent safe. Save the penises

== Impact on Daniel ==
Managers first started to appear in 2020, the first of which that was being [[Rectus Abdominus#Graduate Records|Graduate Records]], a legitimate record company, though would not sign with him them. The first label he signed with can be identified as [[Fine Dining Records]], though it's unclear if they were truly the first. Groups, as well as individual people, tried to manage Daniel when he first began going viral on TikTok. Many of these early groups of people would invite him to [[Zoom Meetings|Zoom meetings]] or Discord calls, attempting to troll him and making Daniel say racial slurs. Many of these trolls had their names on Zoom or Discord set to well known record labels or talent agencies, and offered to sign him if he auditioned by doing irrational and disturbing things on camera.

Daniel, with [[Delusions|dreams]] of becoming a [[Music Career|famous music star]], would fall victim to these trolls frequently (though, his gullibility has significantly gone down over time). These meetings were often recorded, which has led to many infamous clips of Daniel doing irrational things in order to become a professional singer. These include but are not limited to saying racial slurs, explaining how he wants to legalize child molestation, or exposing his genitals for people to see.

Even so, what must be known is that not all managers have negative intentions when interacting with Daniel. Many managers, such as [[Ox]], LootBox Productions, and Bianka, have attempted to improve Daniel's life by supplying him with a steady flow of cash to spend on various expenses. However, what must be noted is that these managers are in the minority, due to Daniel evidently not wanting to accept the help given to him. A notable example of this is [[Bianka]], who quit after months of verbal abuse from Daniel and him denying any sort of help, opting to indulge in his delusions and deny anyone who said other words.

== List of managers ==
Here is a list of all of Daniel's managers, oldest to newest.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Manager
!Start of Service
!End of Service
!Reason
!Active?
|-
|[[Fine Dining Records]]
|May 2020
|Late 2020
|It is unknown as to why Fine Dining ended their tenure with Daniel Larson. Though, given Daniel's comments about them, it may seem that his relationship with them were strained.
|No
|-
|[[Roach Records]]
|October 2020
|November 2020
|Quit after becoming aware of Daniels pedophilia following the Pinterest leak.
|No
|-
|[[Flexburger]]
|Early 2021
|August 2021?
|Cut off by Daniel following after exposing Daniel for pedophilic behavior. Flexburger still serves a large role within the Daniel Larson community today.
|Yes
|-
|[[Party House Records]]
|March 2021
|August 2021
|Flexburgers management company, which managed Daniel at the same time of Flexburger managing him. After Flexburger was fired following him exposing Daniel's pedophilia, he signed with Party House. Flexburger was blackmailed into giving up the manager position to Samantha.
|No
|-
|[[Lil Sid]]
|Mid 2021
|September 2021
|While information on Lil Sid is somewhat scarce, we know that she ended her tenure with Daniel in September of 2021. Still active in the community.
|No
|-
|[[Samantha]]
|August 2021
|December 2021
|Was fired by Daniel after she confronted Daniel for his pedophilia, as well as being doxxed.
|No
|-
|[[Combotter]]
|Early 2021
|November 2021
|Stopped managing Daniel after being doxxed.
|No
|-
|[[Jared]]
|August 2021
|Late 2021
|Left the community after being doxxed through blackmail. Also worked alongside Samantha.
|No
|-
|[[Quacko]]
|Late 2021
|Mid 2022
|Left the Daniel Larson community after the subreddit had doxxed him for gatekeeping Daniel.
|No
|-
|[[Bianka]]
|January 2022
|March 26, 2022
|Quit being Daniel's manager after finding it difficult to work with him, as well as his pedophilia.
|No
|-
|[[Ox]]
|Summer 2022
|January 15, 2023
|Quit being Daniel's manager after finding it increasingly more and more difficult to work with him, and due to Daniel's active warrants.
|Maybe
|-
|[[IWishIHadADad]]
|April 1st, 2023
|April 3rd, 2023
|Ended his tenure after being doxxed for gatekeeping Daniel.
|No
|-
|[[Daniel Larson HQ]]
|Early 2023
|April 2023?
|The 2 individuals who posed as Daniel's fake Vanderwaal managers may have ended their tenure, though evidence shows that they may have been active up until the [[Jail Arc]].
|No
|-
|[[KOK Records]]
|2020
|2021
|Information on KOK Records is scarce, however with the available information it can be determined that KOK Records had left Daniel around the same time Roach Records left due to the same reason.
|No
|-
|[[Platinum Elite Records]]
|November 13, 2020?
|November 18, 2020?
|It is unknown as to why Platinum Elite cut off Daniel, though it is probable that Daniel himself stopped contacting them. Platinum Elite has expressed desire to manage Daniel once more in 2023.
|No
|-
|[[Jay]]
|Early 2021
|Late 2021
|Left the community after being doxxed.
|No
|-
|[[Lootbox Productions]]
|Early 2022
|Late 2022
|It is unknown as to why Lootbox cut off contact with Daniel.
|No
|-
|[[Warren]]
|June 2023
|Late 2023
|It is unknown who Warren is, let alone why he left.
|No
|-
|[[LBI Entertainment]]
|Fall 2023
|[[Jail Arc|February 3rd, 2024]]
|One of the current management groups of Daniel, though has not been mentioned since the [[Olive Garden Incident]].
|No
|-
|[[Clark]]
|Fall 2023
|present
|Most likely '''the last manager''' of Daniel Larson prior to his incarceration. He has been behind each call to Daniel while he was in jail, providing 4 calls between him and Daniel, as well as being behind the [[UCLA Arc]]. Clark had officially announced his retirement from managing Daniel on the 1st of March, 2024, however in April of 2024 he came back as manager. Clark officially departed from management sometime in May 2024 following Daniel's arrest, making him the last ever manager of Daniel Larson. However in September of 2024 it was revealed that Clark continued contact with Daniel, and does so to this day.
|Yes
|-
|[[Lil Sippy]]
|October 2024
|present
|The current individual speaking with Daniel while he is behind bars. He contacts Daniel about once per week, and currently has a beef with Clark.
|}

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Management

2025-03-07T16:25:32Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page Management to The cockers

''For information on Daniel Larson’s professional case managers, see [[Case Managers]]''{{PleaseSpreadTheMessage|The Daniel Larson Wiki, and the community at large, strongly advise AGAINST trying to manage Daniel. While Daniel desires help, he does not want anything that is of true meaning to him, wanting to remain delusional. As good as your intentions may be, It is best to not interact with him, as many have tried and failed.}}

{{Quote|Management needs to stop telling me how to live my fucking life, before I fire everyone!||author=[[Daniel]], in a rare moment of self-awareness. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17g95n9/that_didnt_take_long/</ref>}}
[[File:NewClarkImage.png|thumb|300x300px|Clark, one of Daniel's most infamous managers.]]
'''Management,''' or '''Managers''' is an umbrella term that described people or groups (who are oftentimes [[trolls]]) who had significant power over Daniel’s actions, and seek to influence Daniel under the guise of being a legitimate manager or management company. Some of the most infamous events in Daniel Larson history have been caused by these managers' influence. Managers are also known to have produced a generous amount of Daniel's [[Discography|non-studio recorded music]], though this appears to have ceased past 2022.

However, the management label is not to be confused with Daniel's [[Daniel Larson's case managers|''case managers'']], whose job it is to assist Daniel and provide resources for him. Rather, these managers were more often than not manipulative trolls who sought to humiliate Daniel in exchange for their own amusement, or for self-righteous goals.

It is worth noting however that not all “managers” are created equal. Some did genuinely wish to help Daniel, and had provided him with donations, necessities, and advice. However, these managers were in the minority, and most notable ones have quit due to Daniel refusing their help, and his behavior toward them. Managers are also often known for [[gatekeeping]] content of Daniel from the masses, as to not reveal their identities, or to keep Daniel's actions secret from the community to not cause outrage, ironically enough.

Following the April 30th arrest and the subsequent [[Second Jail Arc]], management of Daniel largely ceased (though [[Clark]] still retained contact with him over the phone). With his transfer to and subsequent institutionalization at MCFP Springfield, management has effectively come to an end, or at least won't return for a period of several months, if not years.

== Impact on Daniel ==
Managers first started to appear in 2020, the first of which that was being [[Rectus Abdominus#Graduate Records|Graduate Records]], a legitimate record company, though would not sign with him them. The first label he signed with can be identified as [[Fine Dining Records]], though it's unclear if they were truly the first. Groups, as well as individual people, tried to manage Daniel when he first began going viral on TikTok. Many of these early groups of people would invite him to [[Zoom Meetings|Zoom meetings]] or Discord calls, attempting to troll him and making Daniel say racial slurs. Many of these trolls had their names on Zoom or Discord set to well known record labels or talent agencies, and offered to sign him if he auditioned by doing irrational and disturbing things on camera.

Daniel, with [[Delusions|dreams]] of becoming a [[Music Career|famous music star]], would fall victim to these trolls frequently (though, his gullibility has significantly gone down over time). These meetings were often recorded, which has led to many infamous clips of Daniel doing irrational things in order to become a professional singer. These include but are not limited to saying racial slurs, explaining how he wants to legalize child molestation, or exposing his genitals for people to see.

Even so, what must be known is that not all managers have negative intentions when interacting with Daniel. Many managers, such as [[Ox]], LootBox Productions, and Bianka, have attempted to improve Daniel's life by supplying him with a steady flow of cash to spend on various expenses. However, what must be noted is that these managers are in the minority, due to Daniel evidently not wanting to accept the help given to him. A notable example of this is [[Bianka]], who quit after months of verbal abuse from Daniel and him denying any sort of help, opting to indulge in his delusions and deny anyone who said other words.

== List of managers ==
Here is a list of all of Daniel's managers, oldest to newest.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Manager
!Start of Service
!End of Service
!Reason
!Active?
|-
|[[Fine Dining Records]]
|May 2020
|Late 2020
|It is unknown as to why Fine Dining ended their tenure with Daniel Larson. Though, given Daniel's comments about them, it may seem that his relationship with them were strained.
|No
|-
|[[Roach Records]]
|October 2020
|November 2020
|Quit after becoming aware of Daniels pedophilia following the Pinterest leak.
|No
|-
|[[Flexburger]]
|Early 2021
|August 2021?
|Cut off by Daniel following after exposing Daniel for pedophilic behavior. Flexburger still serves a large role within the Daniel Larson community today.
|Yes
|-
|[[Party House Records]]
|March 2021
|August 2021
|Flexburgers management company, which managed Daniel at the same time of Flexburger managing him. After Flexburger was fired following him exposing Daniel's pedophilia, he signed with Party House. Flexburger was blackmailed into giving up the manager position to Samantha.
|No
|-
|[[Lil Sid]]
|Mid 2021
|September 2021
|While information on Lil Sid is somewhat scarce, we know that she ended her tenure with Daniel in September of 2021. Still active in the community.
|No
|-
|[[Samantha]]
|August 2021
|December 2021
|Was fired by Daniel after she confronted Daniel for his pedophilia, as well as being doxxed.
|No
|-
|[[Combotter]]
|Early 2021
|November 2021
|Stopped managing Daniel after being doxxed.
|No
|-
|[[Jared]]
|August 2021
|Late 2021
|Left the community after being doxxed through blackmail. Also worked alongside Samantha.
|No
|-
|[[Quacko]]
|Late 2021
|Mid 2022
|Left the Daniel Larson community after the subreddit had doxxed him for gatekeeping Daniel.
|No
|-
|[[Bianka]]
|January 2022
|March 26, 2022
|Quit being Daniel's manager after finding it difficult to work with him, as well as his pedophilia.
|No
|-
|[[Ox]]
|Summer 2022
|January 15, 2023
|Quit being Daniel's manager after finding it increasingly more and more difficult to work with him, and due to Daniel's active warrants.
|Maybe
|-
|[[IWishIHadADad]]
|April 1st, 2023
|April 3rd, 2023
|Ended his tenure after being doxxed for gatekeeping Daniel.
|No
|-
|[[Daniel Larson HQ]]
|Early 2023
|April 2023?
|The 2 individuals who posed as Daniel's fake Vanderwaal managers may have ended their tenure, though evidence shows that they may have been active up until the [[Jail Arc]].
|No
|-
|[[KOK Records]]
|2020
|2021
|Information on KOK Records is scarce, however with the available information it can be determined that KOK Records had left Daniel around the same time Roach Records left due to the same reason.
|No
|-
|[[Platinum Elite Records]]
|November 13, 2020?
|November 18, 2020?
|It is unknown as to why Platinum Elite cut off Daniel, though it is probable that Daniel himself stopped contacting them. Platinum Elite has expressed desire to manage Daniel once more in 2023.
|No
|-
|[[Jay]]
|Early 2021
|Late 2021
|Left the community after being doxxed.
|No
|-
|[[Lootbox Productions]]
|Early 2022
|Late 2022
|It is unknown as to why Lootbox cut off contact with Daniel.
|No
|-
|[[Warren]]
|June 2023
|Late 2023
|It is unknown who Warren is, let alone why he left.
|No
|-
|[[LBI Entertainment]]
|Fall 2023
|[[Jail Arc|February 3rd, 2024]]
|One of the current management groups of Daniel, though has not been mentioned since the [[Olive Garden Incident]].
|No
|-
|[[Clark]]
|Fall 2023
|present
|Most likely '''the last manager''' of Daniel Larson prior to his incarceration. He has been behind each call to Daniel while he was in jail, providing 4 calls between him and Daniel, as well as being behind the [[UCLA Arc]]. Clark had officially announced his retirement from managing Daniel on the 1st of March, 2024, however in April of 2024 he came back as manager. Clark officially departed from management sometime in May 2024 following Daniel's arrest, making him the last ever manager of Daniel Larson. However in September of 2024 it was revealed that Clark continued contact with Daniel, and does so to this day.
|Yes
|-
|[[Lil Sippy]]
|October 2024
|present
|The current individual speaking with Daniel while he is behind bars. He contacts Daniel about once per week, and currently has a beef with Clark.
|}

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Talk:3 Days War

2025-03-07T16:25:06Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page Talk:3 Days War to Talk:The chronically online war

I feel like “3 Days War” is a bit much as the discord never really had any counter attacks. I feel like “Revolt of R/Daniellarson” would be a bit more fitting.

3 Days War

2025-03-07T16:25:05Z

Trestletrouble: Trestletrouble moved page 3 Days War to The chronically online war

{{Sources}}
The '''Daniel Larson Reddit-Discord Conflict''', was a digital siege which occurred between April 1 - April 3 of 2023. This internet conflict took place between two Larson-oriented communities, the Daniel Larson Subreddit [[r/Daniellarson]] and the Discord known as "[[Daniel Larson QnA]]".

Numerous viewpoints have been offered on the subject, with some Larsonian scholars calling it the "'''Larson Civil War'''."
==Conflicting Viewpoints==

===r/Daniellarson===

The subreddit r/Daniellarson viewed the Discord server and [[management]] as the [[Gatekeeping|gatekeepers]] and worst [[manipulators]] of [[Daniel Larson]].<ref>https://archive.ph/aW9rg</ref>

The managers, who maintained control over Daniels whereabouts, activities, and interactions with the community, would begin to host QnA sessions on discord where users would be forced to donate an amount of $5-$20 to ask Daniel Larson a question. Any questions that were perceived as troll questions were removed without refunds, and were often seen as unfair.<ref>https://archive.ph/czu7z</ref>

Reddit users became extremely frustrated and outraged with this new management, them alleging that Daniel was being limited in his content creation and that he was being enabled to make money on the platform. Reddit users suspected that Daniel would not return to TikTok and other social platforms as long as he was being managed and enabled by the Discord server, with the logic being that Daniel Larson was known to take the path of least resistance, and viewed the Discord as a new and easier way to gain donations with the help of his managers, most notably being his head manager [[IWishIHadADad]], who was a confirmed child abuser. Reddit users decided it was their time to take action and liberate Daniel from his new management.<ref>https://archive.ph/j7kkA</ref>

===Daniel Larson QnA===

The managers of Daniel Larson QnA viewed the discord as a way of making new Daniel Larson content and the subreddit as a bunch of trolls who wanted to hold Daniel back.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1299v75/daniel_larson_addressing_his_relationship_with/</ref>

The Discord server, as its name states, hosted QnA sessions where the owner of the server would allow people to pay them to ask Daniel questions, with a revenue split between him and Daniel, this was often seen as an exploitation of Daniel's mental illnesses. Even though the managers never claimed to be [[gatekeeping]] Daniel Larson, the Reddit claims they fully understood that they had full control over Daniel and information pertaining to him.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129r55z/daniel_larson_rage_quits_after_no_one_was/</ref>

They would spark controversy and infamy as there were claims that they started to work together to ensure that Daniel solely contacted them and that they were the keyholders to anything and everything about Daniel. Although the managers of Daniel would say that they were not seeking clout and or control of Daniel, it was clearly evident that IWishIHadADad had plans.<ref>https://archive.ph/cFGNk</ref>

Driven by his need to be directly in contact with Daniel and their desire to have power over the situation, they intended to counter the subreddit's desire for Daniel content and tried to keep Daniel under their wing. This plan would ultimately fail.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/129yt52/daniel_larson_addressing_the_use_of_the_self/</ref>
==April 1 / Unrest on the Horizon==

April 1st marked the first day in which Daniel Larson QnA began operating.

On the night of April 1st we see the server host its first QnA event, where Daniel is brought onto the Discord stage to answer questions from fans. Little to nothing happens during these types of events. In most cases Daniel would get cold feet and leave the stage time and time again after receiving questions that he perceived would dox his location, or when Daniel was in situations that would overstimulate him.

Daniel would continue with his regular antics, using the discord server to tag @everyone constantly and plugging his [[cashapp]], to the point the admins would take it away from him. He also would use the chat to say ridiculous and random things throughout the servers existence.

Although most of what came out of the Discord QnA server was a huge nothing burger, there were a few notable events.

=== '''Fake Plane Ticket''' ===
[[File:Faketicketsent.png|200px|thumb|left|Fake ticket sent by management]]
On April 1st, users and management attempted to send Daniel a fake plane ticket in hopes that Daniel would arrive to Houston International Airport and go into an airport meltdown.

Three fake tickets were created, with one of the tickets being an '''''extremely''''' poorly faked ticket, edited within what seemed to be snapchat. A discord user by the name of Clowny aided the server in creating two other tickets that seemed extremely realistic.

The management, in a dash of extreme incompetence, decided to send Daniel the poorly faked original ticket. Daniel immediately knew that the ticket was fake, resulting in the plan failing entirely.

=== '''Tina & Olivia Vanderwaal''' ===
Two trolls by the fake names of Tina and Olivia Vanderwaal worked to trick Daniel into thinking that he was having a conversation with the real members of the [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaal family]].

Although Daniel was convinced that Olivia Vanderwaal was real, he had his doubts about the authenticity of the Tina Vanderwaal troll, who threw Daniel into a paranoid episode resulting in his exit from the stage. Olivia was able to convince Daniel that she had a fondness for Daniel, and that Daniel should consider a three-way with him, Grace, and Olivia.

=== '''Questionable Daniel Comments''' ===
Although Daniel would mostly write nonsense into the general chat of the server, Daniel sent a few questionable comments into the general chats of the Discord QnA server. Two of the most notable comments being:<blockquote>"You can have protected sex with guardian permission in Florida."

"Me and Grace are having sex tonight."</blockquote>Enabled by the server to feed his delusions, Daniel convinced himself once more that his relationship with Grace was real and legitimate.

== Operation Liberate Larson ==
Many reddit users became immediately upset with the entire situation understanding that this new management was up to absolutely no good. Reddit, in cooperation with other smaller lolcow subreddits, began initiating their first attack against the QnA server known as '''Operation Liberate Larson'''.

The plan was simple, find any way to report the Discord server to Discord Trust & Safety in hopes that the Discord server would be taken down for not enforcing punishments against users who were not abiding by Discords' Terms of Service. According to sources, over 50 reports were confirmed to have been made to Discord through their website portal.

This entire plan was based on the fact that Discord had recently changed its TOS, enforcing rules and violations on more servers and users in an ironfist fashion. Although this ultimately failed in taking down the server, it was confirmed by third party sources that over 15 users of the QnA server received account bans as a result of the reports.

===FTC Debacle===

It was discovered that the Daniel Larson QnA server was holding a raffle for Daniels' famous [[scabies]] jacket he had during the [[Homeless Arc|homeless arc]].

The discord server was selling 10 raffle tickets for $3.00 using Discord's subscription feature to sell the tickets. It is unknown how many subscriptions were purchased, but it was estimated that 5-10 subscriptions were purchased, resulting in an income of at least $30 through the Discord. Although the raffle was unsuccessful, redditors who were working to take down the server understood that the QnA server was in direct violation of federal law in regards to raffles and prizes enforced by the Federal Trade Commission.

The server had no way of obtaining the jacket, had no ownership of the jacket, and had no plan of actual sending the jacket to the supposed "raffle winner". Although the raffle inevitably never took place, the money was taken by the owner of the server [[IWishIHadADad]].

Reddit users planned to report the owner and the server to the FTC if the raffle officially went through for fraud and a fake prize.

===Uprising===
[[File:Untitled-1.png|200px|thumb|right|Reddit Rise]]
Redditors began to post to the subreddit sharing their disgust and hate for the new management, including propaganda being created to inspire redditors to take action collectively against the QnA server.

This plan worked, as almost the entire community reddit began to work together to begin to topple imbalance of power. This marked the first day of the uprising and the beginning of the conflict, as the subreddit, Daniel Larson World discord server, and other small subreddits began to join forces to attack the QnA server.

== April 2 / Dox Conflict / The Plane ==

April 2nd marks the first day in which personal information about manager [[IWishIHadADad]] began to be released.

Originally doxxed by a user of the Daniel Larson World Discord, information about the manager began to become widespread information. This attack exposed the manager as a money begging serial Twitter user, a father, and other personal information.

As a result of this information being released, the manager began to get cold feet, saying on a stage press conference that he "may be leaving for a little bit".

Only a few minutes later he would retract this statement by stating "they want to scare me, I am going nowhere". This would ultimately be his worst mistake.

Behind the scenes, an army of information gathering trolls began to gain the information of other admins should this information need to be released. This included the information of administrator Zen98. Although this information was never released, it is confirmed that their information was on hold and to be used if future plans were not to work.

===The Plane===

Coordinated by manager [[IWishIHadADad]], Daniel sent $115 to the Cashapp of his manager. It was at this time that the manager purchased the ticket for Daniel using Daniels' money from donations to purchase a planet ticket from Houston to Newark.

This ticket purchase was confirmed to be real, Daniel’s manager also confirming in front of an audience of 300+ that Daniel also gave [[IWishIHadADad]] his debit card information, his email, and other financial details to purchase the ticket, even though they had only known each other for two days.

Reddit users became outraged that this manager was enabling, coddling, and supporting a pedophile. This enraged the reddit and other discord users more, enabling the community to attack much harder.

It was at this point that the resistance against the management became organized. Although a few discord users supported the purchase of the ticket, a large percentage of users did not agree with the situation.

== April 3 / The Nuclear Dox / The Final Push / Vanderwaal Welcome ==

On April 3rd, Daniel was at Houston International Airport awaiting his flight. It was on this day that a Daniel Larson World discord user discovered the criminal history of [[IWishIHadADad]].

The criminal history included child abuse charges with the detail of "great bodily injury", which in legal terms, explains that the injury to the child was extremely vicious and potentially life threatening. IWish admitted to his child abusing past with no remorse, joking about the child abuse. He went on to say that there is "no reason to explain himself to internet trolls", using his "baby momma" and his use of Xanax as excuses. It was made evidently clear that IWish did not care about his children, family, or really himself.

This information became widespread and spread like wildfire to the reddit. By the end of the day almost every subreddit user understood what IWish was really about, and understood his dark past.

Warned by others before, IWish was not prepared for what would happen to him during his new management "career". This is the first time in management history that a manager has been exposed for such heinous and horrible charges, and the first time that a manager has been researched to such an extent.

With skeletons in his closet, IWish became debatably one of the most hated figures in Daniel Larson lore history, akin to [[Ox]] and [[Flexburger]]. Some users describe IWishes' dox and exposure much worse and eventful that Oxes and Flexburgers ever was. Guided by ignorance and selfishness, IWish drove himself directly into a brick wall.

Towards the end of April 3, the Discord server was deleted with an astounding Reddit victory. The deletion was due to the owner finally realizing the position he had put himself in, becoming an extremely hated figure and being ridiculed by hundreds for his horrible child beating past.

It has been proven that IWish still has some contact with Daniel as of April 4 2023, but considering Daniel has returned to Tiktok and began begging for donations once more, order within the community has finally been restored.

== The Vanderwaal Welcome ==

On April 3rd, Daniel was convinced by trolls in the server, before its deletion, that the Vanderwaal family would be waiting to pickup Daniel after he had landed in Newark.

This was most notably performed by the Olivia and Dave Vanderwaal trolls on the QnA stage. During this QnA, they discuss paparazzi, Tina being in disguise holding a sign with a codeword, and planning what Daniel will do with the Vanderwaal family in New York City. Daniel falls for this and makes his way to New York anticipating the Vanderwaals.

== Notable Reddit Resistance Figures / "Larson Purists" ==

* Clowny
* JustinJust-In
* u/cumfart6_
* u/Astro
* u/HairyPussyQueefs
* Bobbybacala
* Alex Jones

== Notable QnA Members ==

* [[IWishIHadADad]]
* Zen98
* Detah
* PassiveObserver

== Refrences ==

Panera Bread Incident

2025-03-07T16:24:44Z

Trestletrouble:

{{CW}}[[File:Paneraphoto.jpg|thumb|"Mr president at Panera Bread" by /u/banquetbangerv6]]'''The cock boy fuck piss incident''' was a significant incident that occurred on November 10, 2023''',''' at roughly 8:22 PM (UTC-7), where Daniel had a public meltdown inside a Westminster, Colorado '''Panera Bread'''. This incident was filmed by bystanders, an employee from the store, and the [[Management|managers]] he was on Discord with. Although the exact reason for the meltdown is unknown, it appears to have stemmed from being recognized by fans, who then proceeded to follow Daniel around and harass him.

A member of the Discord server Daniel was on a call with during the incident went on to claimed that they were not involved at all, and that the situation occurred naturally after a couple of fans had taken photos of Daniel.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17soq1i/comment/k8r6p20/</ref>

The incident is strikingly similar to the [[Häagen-Dazs Incident]], which happened about six months before, given Daniel's use of [[Daniel Larson and Race|slurs]]. This also serves as one of Daniel’s most well known incidents, as it occurred during a point in which his niche online status was growing. Notably, Daniel was still sporting the [[Reverse Mohawk]] haircut he had gotten almost three weeks prior to the incident.

== Background ==

Before the incident, a group of trolls were following Daniel around between locations, including, but not limited to, Dave & Busters, Target, <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/17swzpk/comment/k8sogf2/</ref> and an unknown restaurant.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hSSocoHXDM</ref> Earlier in the night, Daniel posted an official looking document from Dave & Busters stating that he was banned from all locations.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxtqeBOtJJ8ezzy30EhxJwpPIyO7DTWRyh</ref> This letter was later confirmed to be real, after an employee mentioned the letter during one of Daniel's live streams when he showed up months later.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c9O9RMSlCY?t=1045</ref>

Daniel has been [[List of places that have banned Daniel|banned from other restaurants]] in the past for [[Dine and dashes|dining and dashing]], including Dave & Buster's. Incidents such as these are what eventually led up to his ban.

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Daniel: You guys need to shut the fuck up! (takes deep breaths) Don't be talking like that!

Troll: Talking to [[Grace VanderWaal]]!

Daniel: No! I work under fucking management so shut the fuck up! GO AHEAD AND FUCKING RECORD ME! BITCH!

Troll: Look at him, it's like Bigfoot! It's like fucking Bigfoot!

[Daniel flips off the troll]

Troll: Holy shit, it's like Bigfoot dude!

Daniel: I'm calling the police on you! I have you on camera!

Troll: It's like Bigfoot, holy shit! I never thought I'd see this stuff happen in my whole life. That dude's a local fucking TikTok user. I fucking thank you!

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== Bystander Video ==

The peak of the incident was mainly caught on camera by an employee and posted onto the Daniel Larson Wiki Discord before it had been deleted.

In the video, Daniel is dealing with two Panera Bread employees who are trying to get him to leave. Daniel refuses to leave, repeatedly yelling the phrase, "Try me, bitch!", even [[Daniel's acts of violence|throwing a table in their direction]]. Daniel then starts shouting about his fans leaking his location, and eventually, another employee calls the police. He is then is warned that the employee will press charges for assault, to which Daniel responds by repeatedly shouting, "I NEVER PUT HANDS ON YOU, BITCH!", before beginning to [[Self Harm|punch himself]] and then shriek repeatedly.

The employees stand around recording before turning their backs on Daniel for a split second. Daniel stops screaming, then tries to sneak up on them with his arm raised, however, he never follows through and sits back down. The employee then raises his voice, causing Daniel to hit himself more and sit back down again, still shouting about never assaulting the employee. Daniel then screams [[The N Word|the n-word]] multiple times while also claiming to have a lawyer and threatening to murder everyone in the establishment.

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Employee #1: ''unintelligible''

Daniel: No, I'm not! Those people are causing the situation! '''STOP FUCKING FILMING ME, BITCH!''' ''(woman recording the video laughs, Employee #1 also begins recording at this point)''

Employee #1: You're cursing, you need to get out of my store right now. Don't put your hands on me.

Daniel: I'm not putting hands on you! I'm not putting hands on you! Try me! Try me! Try me! TRY ME! TRY ME, BITCH! TRY ME BITCH! TRY ME, BITCH! ''TRY ME, BITCH''! I will fucking murder you! I will fucking murder you, bitch! ''(Concurrently, Employee #1 continues to tell Daniel to get out of his store, and also tells the woman recording to call the police. Employee #2 also begins speaking to him.)''

Woman: Look at this crackhead... ''Daniel flips a miniature table''

Daniel: I can go right fucking ahead! I CAN GO RIGHT FUCKING AHEAD! Fans are leaking my location, bitch! Fans are leaking my location, bitch! BITCH! BITCH! Fans are leaking my location, I'm in fucking danger! ''(Employee #1 continues to try to speak to Daniel. Employee #2 stares in awe.)''

Employee #1: Tell them it's an emergency; he's becoming violent.

Woman: I've been recording.

Daniel: Fans are leaking my location, I'm fucking famous!

Employee #1: You trespassed, and I'm gonna press charges for you assaulting me.

Daniel: I never assaulted you!

Employee #1: You threatened me! You just-

Daniel: I NEVER PUT HANDS ON YOU, BITCH! I NEVER PUT HANDS ON YOU, BITCH!

Employee #1: That's assault.

Daniel: ''smacks his own forehead several times, begins screaming'' '''''AAAAA!!! AAAAA!!! AAAAA!!!... AAAAA!!! AAAAA!!! AAAAA!!! AAAAA!!! AAAAA!!! AAAAA!!!''''' ''gets out of chair and prepares to attack Employee #1, but stops just before''

Employee #2: WOAH! You better watch it!

Daniel: I NEVER ASSAULTED YOU!

Employee #1: '''YOU STEP BACK ''RIGHT NOW!'''''

Daniel: I NEVER ASSAULTED YOU!

Employee #1: '''''STEP BACK RIGHT NOW!'''''

Daniel: ''goes to sit down and smacks his forehead repeatedly again'' I NEVER ASSAULTED YOU, BITCH!

Employee #1: You threw a table at me!

Daniel: I NEVER ASSAULTED YOU!

Employee #1: You threw a table at me—

Daniel: JUST BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WERE CAUSING A SITUATION YOU FUCKING BLAME ME! (?) (''Employee #1 speaks at the same time, hard to make out'')

Employee #2: Bro, you should've never took the phone-

Employee #1: You're throwin' ch-chairs and tables at me!

''Daniel hits himself in the head.''

Daniel: I NEVER DID ANYTHING! FUCKING PRESS CHARGES ON ME, NIGGER! '''NIGGER!''' I NEVER DID ANYTHING! ''(Employee #2, who is black, smiles in disbelief towards the camerawoman. She laughs at the same time.)''

Employee #2: Oh my god...

Woman: I got it all on video. Ever since like, he flipped the table.

Employee #1: Don't worry, we'll get you someone to take care of you.

Daniel: ''smacks his forehead'' No you're not! I have a lawyer! I HAVE A FUCKING LAWYER! I HAVE A FUCKING LAWYER, DICK! I HAVE A FUCKING LAWYER, NIGGER! '''NIGGER! ''NIGGER!''''' You just wanna fucking hate on me!

Woman: Oh nahh... Oh, I'm like-I'm like-

Employee #2: I know, like what kind (?)

Daniel: CAN YOU STOP FUCKING HATING ON ME, NOW I'M FUCKING BLEEDING!

Employee #1: Because you just punched yourself in the face!

''Daniel punches himself in the face.''

Daniel: '''AAAAAAAA!!!'''

''Daniel hits himself in the face again.''

Employee #1: You were recording the whole time, right? ''speaking to woman''

Daniel: I wanna fucking die! I wanna fucking die, bitch! BITCH ASS NIGGER! BITCH ASS NIGGER! ''wails''
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==Daniel's POV and the Aftermath ==
[[File:PaneraAfterMath-c.png|thumb|Posts on Daniel's community tab|415x415px]]During the incident, Daniel was on a Discord call with a [[management]], who captured some of the events from Daniel's point of view. During the video, Daniel turns the camera around, revealing a bloody face from his own punches. Eventually, the police arrive and talk to Daniel.

[[Plot Armor|Somehow]], he was not arrested, but Daniel made a statement that the management at Panera Bread have banned him from the restaurant. But, knowing Daniel's tendency to lie, the statement remains to be substantiated.

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Daniel: ...press charges. Just because somebody came in here!

Employee 1: No, because you tried to assault me.

Daniel: I never assaulted you.

Employee 1: When you threaten someone physically, it's assault. I don't have to explain it to you.

Daniel: I never... I never put hands on you! You, y- OK, so that gives you the right to put hands on me? Wow!

Employee 1: You were going to hit me.

Daniel: You put... you were trying to put hands on me! I put my hands up to block you! My entire family's gonna be pressing charges! I have investigators, I have people that can like, literally shut this place down! I'm doing absolutely nothing! My fucking face is bleeding because of you!

Employee 1: That's from punching yourself in the face.

Daniel: No! Because you, you- you tried to press charges on me!

Employee 1: Really?

Daniel: My fucking family's terrified! [camera flips to show Daniel's bloodied face]

Employee 1: OK. Well when the police get here, you'll be safe.

Daniel: Uh, I'm not going to jail! [camera flips to front]

Employee: That's-

Daniel: Because I didn't do anything!

Employee 1: That's for the police to decide.

Daniel: I have it all on film!

Employee 1: You need to get out.

Daniel: I'm a fucking celebrity, you treat me like shit!

Employee 1: Because 'unintelligible'

Daniel: You wanna try to murder me is what you wanna do!

Employee 1: I wanna make sure you're safe.

Daniel: No you don't! You... you wanna press charges! You've already stated that!

Employee 1: You threw a table at me.

Daniel: I never threw a table at you, you were across the room. You were standing right where you stand right now. I just moved the table to try to create a barrier so you couldn't put hands on me. I have my lawyers ready to leak this all over the internet. There was somebody actually trying to do a drive-by shooting. That's why I came in here. I'm a celebrity, I have rights! I HAVE RIGHTS to protect myself!

Employee: You called people the N-word in here.

Daniel: So you're saying, you're saying I can't fucking protect myself.

Employee 1: No...

Daniel: So go ahead and put hands on me. 'Daniel gets up' Cut me with a knife!

Employee 1: No! You're out of control right now!

Daniel: I'm NOT out of control, OK? I'm not out of control at all! I will make sure this goes all over Hollywood. I will make sure TMZ, 9 News, everybody covers this. A matter of fact, last time I was in jail, they actually cleared the case, got it all lifted, and all of the jail footage was leaked. The police officers lost their job. Cause I'm gonna tell the police that you tried to assault me. Tina, I need you to leak this all over the Internet. I have every single right to record my safety.

Officer: Yeah. Get yourself out. Stand up.

Daniel: Uh... uh, can I, can I talk-

Officer: Uh, unplug your stuff and stand up.

Daniel: Can I talk to you for a moment?

Officer: Sure, as long as you're standing up while unplugging your phone and walking out of the store.

Daniel: I will be more than happy to do that.

Officer: OK.

Daniel: I- there's actually a very serious issue that has happened, and I need to report it, and I've already called.

Officer: So, 'unintelligible' punch yourself in the face and you can't relax.

Daniel: So, I'm famous, OK. I've already got investigations for..

Officer: What are you famous for?

Daniel: I'm a singer-songwriter.

Officer: OK.

Daniel: I have..

Officer: When's the last time you used drugs or alcohol today?

Daniel: I don't use drugs and I don't use alcohol.

Officer: Eyeballs say differently.

Daniel: I always have a dry eye.

Officer: Well, it's not dry, dilated pupils while you're inside sitting in a light.

Daniel: That's because I'm always on my phone.

Officer: Because they would've changed back already because you've been off your phone for almost a minute. That's how the eyeballs work.

Daniel: I don't do drugs and I don't do alcohol.

[video cuts]

Officer: ...mental health issues that you've been diagnosed with?

Daniel: Just autism.

Officer: Just autism?

Daniel: Yes.

Officer: OK. Do you have any weapons on you I need to know about?

Daniel: I don't, you can...

Officer: Don't reach in your pockets, you can leave that alone.

Daniel: But, the- I came in here because I was having an issue with...

Employee 1: You don't need to do that anymore.

Daniel: I came in here because I was having an issue with the troll/hater in my fanbase community outside threatening me with a gun. OK? They were threatening me to do a drive-by shooting along this shopping center.

Officer: What's your first name?

Daniel: Daniel.

Officer: Daniel?

Daniel: My last name is Larson. I don't know who the people..

Officer: What's your birth date?

Daniel: It's 11/15/1998.

Officer: 98?

Daniel: Yes

Officer: What's your phone number, Daniel?

Daniel: I don't know, because I just got a new number.

Officer: Why are all the tables and shit turned over, Daniel? [video turns off]

Daniel: I- 'stammers' the manager tried to put hands on me to escort me outside.

Officer: I don't think that was probably it.

Daniel: And...

Officer: He says you're in here acting like a looney-tunes!

Daniel: I... I felt, I felt endangered, and so I... I put...

Officer: So you act like a looney-tunes?

Daniel: I, I knocked down the tables to try to create a barrier so I could be on one side and they could be on the other.

Officer: (interrupting as Daniel finishes) Daniel, I'm gonna be real with ya. That's a piss poor excuse, bud.

Daniel: But I, I felt in danger.

Officer: So you punched yourself in the face a bunch of times?

Daniel: The manager was threatening to press charges on me.

Officer: So if you come in here flipping tables over, and punching yourself in the face, and they say "leave", and you say "no", and they say "yes, we're gonna trespass you", and you say "no", that's trespassing. Where'd all these fans come from? They just, found you out of nowhere?

Daniel: I, I have- I'm a singer-songwriter. I have music on iHeartRadio.

Officer: What's your best song?

Daniel: Umm, Roaring Thunder. It has...

Officer: Roaring Thunder?

Daniel: Yes, it has over...

Officer: Play it for me.

Daniel: It has over 5 million views. [Daniel shows Officer his YouTube] This is my entire YouTube. So the list goes on and on.

Officer: I can't see anything, you're scrolling so fast.

Daniel: And, I'm even dating this person. (likely a photo of Grace VanderWaal) There's even...

Officer: Well, look at that!

Daniel: I'm currently homeless.

Officer: You're homeless, but you got 5 million views on YouTube, don't they pay you for that?

Daniel: Uh, they do, but I'm dealing with a family crisis...

Officer: Let me see your YouTube page.

Daniel: ...and a lot of my money is showing to the family crisis. I'm extremely, extremely famous.

Officer: What's your, what's your- do you have a TikTok?

Daniel: I do have a TikTok as well, yes.

Officer: Ah.

Daniel: My... my handle...

Officer: Something freedom?

Daniel: Is um, no, it is... yeah it's daniellarsonfreedom.

Officer: Someone sent that to our PD, and said and gave that handle to that TikTok.

Daniel: Yes.

Officer: It doesn't have a big party. Are you part of some group?

[cuts to later]

Officer: Why did you punch yourself in the face a bunch of times?

Daniel: Um, I'm- I'm getting banned - I'm getting banned from so many places, I'm struggling to make a living. That's the issue.

Officer: Why'd you get banned from all of them?

Daniel: Like I was saying, because fans are coming in, trolls, I don't have security.

Officer: Uh, I don't feel like that's the issue. I feel like it's the yelling at staff, flipping tables over, punching yourself until you bleed.

Daniel: See, I only did because the manager was...

Officer: Daniel, that literally makes zero sense. The manager was threatening you saying you harmed yourself?

Daniel: He, he threat-, he threatened to be... he threatened to press charges on me, and I knew I was innocent.

Officer: You weren't! He asked you to leave, you said no, that's trespassing! You're guilty... guilty as shit right now, bud!

Daniel: Right. Right and I just told him like, I don't feel safe, please call the police.

Officer: So you punched yourself in the face a bunch of times.

Daniel: He said he was- [video cuts] distance against him, I felt endangered.

Officer: Did you make threats towards him?

Daniel: I did, yes.

Officer: Why did you do that?

Daniel: Because... if you look at it from my perspective, OK, I come in here out of concern...

Officer: I don't see any point in your perspective.

[video ends, now statement]

Daniel: OK. You guys hear me? Can you guys hear me? Hello? OK, Bob is doing nothing to help and I will fucking go to his house with a gun and I will kill him. He's basically leaving me to die. Right now, there's actual cars right now following me planning a murder. OK, and Bob is being a fucking n---r because he's doing nothing to help!

[Daniel is taken to the hospital]

Daniel: OK, the jackass, excuse my language. But the manager, OK, decided they were gonna ban me.

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== References ==
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