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Plot Armor

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	Time and time again, the [[R/Daniellarson\|Larsonian community]] had watched Daniel incriminate himself multiple times by filming his wrongdoings and posting or streaming them online for all the world to see; the most that would happen would Daniel being [[Jail Arc\|held in jail for, at most, a few weeks]], or simply being given a [[Olive Garden Incident\|slap-on-the-wrist]]. This became one of the more infamous parts of Daniel's presence, both in real life and online, as Daniel seemed, for a substantial stretch of time, to be above the law, or at least immune to its more concrete punishments.		Time and time again, the [[R/Daniellarson\|Larsonian community]] had watched Daniel incriminate himself multiple times by filming his wrongdoings and posting or streaming them online for all the world to see; the most that would happen would Daniel being [[Jail Arc\|held in jail for, at most, a few weeks]], or simply being given a [[Olive Garden Incident\|slap-on-the-wrist]]. This became one of the more infamous parts of Daniel's presence, both in real life and online, as Daniel seemed, for a substantial stretch of time, to be above the law, or at least immune to its more concrete punishments.

	Daniel's plot armor seemed to break for good when he was arrested on 30 April 2024, 24 days after [[April 6th Incident\|his most intense and infamous meltdown to date]] in Larstory, and then spent nearly two years behind bars. Many speculated that he was at serious risk of being institutionalized for the rest of his life ([[Second Jail Arc#Plea Agreement\|plea deals]] notwithstanding). However, he was released from prison on 21 [[July 2026]], though this does not mean his plot armor has fully re-materialized; his release comes with the mandates of being on probation for up to two years, and having his behavior online and offline heavily monitored by caregivers and ~~officers~~.		Daniel's plot armor seemed to break for good when he was arrested on 30 April 2024, 24 days after [[April 6th Incident\|his most intense and infamous meltdown to date]] in Larstory, and then spent nearly two years behind bars. Many speculated that he was at serious risk of being institutionalized for the rest of his life ([[Second Jail Arc#Plea Agreement\|plea deals]] notwithstanding). However, he was released from prison on 21 [[July 2026]], though this does not mean his plot armor has fully re-materialized; his release comes with the mandates of being on probation for up to two years, and having his behavior online and offline heavily monitored by caregivers and his probation officer.

	== Examples ==		== Examples ==

List of threats Daniel has made

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	Daniel is known for posting threats on social media whenever he feels upset or threatened. The behavior began during the [[Homeless Era]] and gradually became a habit. Over time, the threats grew so frequent and severe that federal authorities built a case against him, ultimately leading to his [[Second Jail Arc\|incarceration]] on seven counts of making threats. Since 2022, he is rumored to have issued more than 100 threats. <ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HoyXakoWNvdOAU99o6fC9Tz5tDsCbNMIiXZfmjdH7po/edit?gid=0#gid=0</ref>		Daniel is known for posting threats on social media whenever he feels upset or threatened. The behavior began during the [[Homeless Era]] and gradually became a habit. Over time, the threats grew so frequent and severe that federal authorities built a case against him, ultimately leading to his [[Second Jail Arc\|incarceration]] on seven counts of making threats. Since 2022, he is rumored to have issued more than 100 threats. <ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HoyXakoWNvdOAU99o6fC9Tz5tDsCbNMIiXZfmjdH7po/edit?gid=0#gid=0</ref>

	Despite repeated warnings from law enforcement, [[Daniel MacDougall]], and others close to him, Daniel refused to stop. His behavior only escalated, eventually reaching the point where he even directed threats at MacDougall himself. He was arrested on April 30, 2024 by the FBI due to the threats, and ~~remains~~ in ~~custody~~.		Despite repeated warnings from law enforcement, [[Daniel MacDougall]], and others close to him, Daniel refused to stop. His behavior only escalated, eventually reaching the point where he even directed threats at MacDougall himself. He was arrested on April 30, 2024 by the FBI due to the threats, and spent over two years in federal prison.

	== List of threats ==		== List of threats ==

Second Coming Arc

AllHailJonas — Sun, 13 Sep 2026 16:19:47 GMT

Sightings

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	== Sightings ==		== Sightings ==
			''Main article: [[Post-Prison Release Sightings]]''

	=== First sighting ===		=== First sighting ===
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	[[File:August6DanielSighting.jpg\|left\|thumb\|397x397px\|Daniel as spotted on August 6. He noticeably gained weight.]]		[[File:August6DanielSighting.jpg\|left\|thumb\|397x397px\|Daniel as spotted on August 6. He noticeably gained weight.]]
	Daniel would be spotted for the first time on July 26, 2026, <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/s/n6AkAZQSeZ</ref> in what is currently the earliest known photograph of him following his release.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1vhtyga/me_president/</ref> The photos would only surface publicly on August 6, making it the fourth sighting to become publicly known. In photographs that surfaced, Daniel is standing next to one of his fans in a different outfit than he was in photos posted before.		Daniel would be spotted for the first time on July 26, 2026, <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/s/n6AkAZQSeZ</ref> in what is currently the earliest known photograph of him following his release.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1vhtyga/me_president/</ref> The photos would only surface publicly on August 6, making it the fourth sighting to become publicly known. In photographs that surfaced, Daniel is standing next to one of his fans in a different outfit than he was in photos posted before.

	~~=== Fifth sighting ===~~
	Daniel was spotted once again on August 8, 2026, wearing a new outfit. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/daniel-spotted-speaking-with-his-attorney</ref> He is seen sitting in a chair, talking with Jeffrey Feiler, his attorney, and his caretaker. Daniel can be seen doing an angry tongue as Jeffrey Feiler says "We're still trying to figure out why-"

	~~=== Shopping mall sightings ===~~
	Daniel was spotted for the first time in two weeks walking by a mall, and the photo was posted a few days later. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/3-larson-sightings-occur-in-24-hours</ref> On August 23, 2026 at a shopping mall. He is wearing the same Calvin Klein T-shirt as the first spotting. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1vwi9bu/one_of_my_mutuals_posted_this_2_hours_ago/</ref> He was spotted the next day talking to fans.

	Daniel was spotted walking the same shopping mall on August 28, 2026. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/larson-spotted-at-mall-again</ref> He was also spotted the next day there, and fans got photos with him. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w201up/daniel_spotting_at_cherry_creek_shopping_center/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w20bth/daniel_spotted_with_fan/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w2l0ah/daniel_spotted_with_aura/</ref>

	On August 30, 2026, Daniel was spotted again and he is wearing a new shirt. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w2otrc/daniel_larson_spotted_83026_cherry_creek/</ref> The person who spotted Daniel asked him a few questions. Daniel stated that he was working on new music and was happy to be back in Denver, but does not have Internet access and cannot make social media accounts. The same day, Daniel shouted out fans in videos. <ref>https://x.com/flexburgerr/status/2094237931175043327</ref>

	== YouTube Comments ==		== YouTube Comments ==

Main Page

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	<font color="red">'''{{#expr: ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U\|2025-08-25}}) / 86400 round 0}} days'''</font> since Daniel begged for money.		<font color="red">'''{{#expr: ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U\|2025-08-25}}) / 86400 round 0}} days'''</font> since Daniel begged for money.

	<font color="red">'''{{#expr: ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U\|2026-08-30}}) / 86400 round 0}} days'''</font> since Daniel was spotted.		<font color="red">'''{{#expr: ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U\|2026-09-12}}) / 86400 round 0}} days'''</font> since Daniel was spotted.

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Post-Prison Release Sightings

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Shopping mall sightings

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	Daniel was spotted walking the same shopping mall on August 28, 2026. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/larson-spotted-at-mall-again</ref> He was also spotted the next day there, and fans got photos with him. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w201up/daniel_spotting_at_cherry_creek_shopping_center/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w20bth/daniel_spotted_with_fan/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w2l0ah/daniel_spotted_with_aura/</ref>		Daniel was spotted walking the same shopping mall on August 28, 2026. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/larson-spotted-at-mall-again</ref> He was also spotted the next day there, and fans got photos with him. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w201up/daniel_spotting_at_cherry_creek_shopping_center/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w20bth/daniel_spotted_with_fan/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w2l0ah/daniel_spotted_with_aura/</ref>

	On August 30, 2026, Daniel was spotted again and he is wearing a new shirt. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w2otrc/daniel_larson_spotted_83026_cherry_creek/</ref> The person who spotted Daniel asked him a few questions. Daniel stated that he was working on new music and was happy to be back in Denver, but does not have Internet access and cannot make social media accounts. The same day, Daniel shouted out fans in videos. <ref>https://x.com/flexburgerr/status/2094237931175043327</ref>		On August 30, 2026, Daniel was spotted again and he is wearing a new shirt. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1w2otrc/daniel_larson_spotted_83026_cherry_creek/</ref> The person who spotted Daniel asked him a few questions. Daniel stated that he was working on new music and was happy to be back in Denver, but does not have Internet access and cannot make social media accounts. The same day, Daniel shouted out fans in videos. <ref>https://x.com/flexburgerr/status/2094237931175043327</ref>

			== September 2026 ==
			Daniel was spotted on September 1, 2026, and [[September 1st Interview\|interviewed]] by a fan. After nearly two weeks, Daniel was then spotted in a restaurant on September 12, 2026, where he is wearing a baseball cap. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1wf1rph/fans_just_leaked_my_location/</ref>

			== References ==

September 2026

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	* Daniel gets interviewed by a fan who spots him. He later talks to Flexburger via FaceTime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDg7h-1W9M</ref>		* Daniel gets interviewed by a fan who spots him. He later talks to Flexburger via FaceTime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDg7h-1W9M</ref>

			==== September 12 ====

			* Daniel gets spotted at a bar, wearing a backwards baseball cap. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1wf1rph/fans_just_leaked_my_location/</ref>

			== References ==

Clark

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	On December 17, 2023, Clarks identity was revealed by one of Daniel's most prolific managers, [[Flexburger]]. Clark took part in an interview conducted by [[Larsonleak\|LarsonLeak]],<ref name=":0" /> a channel Flexburger himself owns. Despite his identity being exposed, Clark still opted to manage Daniel, unlike [[Combotter\|many]] [[Samantha\|others]] who had quit after having their identities exposed.		On December 17, 2023, Clarks identity was revealed by one of Daniel's most prolific managers, [[Flexburger]]. Clark took part in an interview conducted by [[Larsonleak\|LarsonLeak]],<ref name=":0" /> a channel Flexburger himself owns. Despite his identity being exposed, Clark still opted to manage Daniel, unlike [[Combotter\|many]] [[Samantha\|others]] who had quit after having their identities exposed.

	However, on February 28, 2024, Clark vanished from the Daniel Larson community and demanded for personally identifiable information about himself to be removed from his article from this very wiki so people could not track him. It was assumed that he officially cut ties with Daniel. However, this ~~didn't~~ last very long, as it was evident that Clark had not sunk his claws out of Daniel.		However, on February 28, 2024, Clark vanished from the Daniel Larson community and demanded for personally identifiable information about himself to be removed from his article from this very wiki so people could not track him. It was assumed that he officially cut ties with Daniel. However, this did not last very long, as it was evident that Clark had not sunk his claws out of Daniel.

	On May 1, 2024, phone calls between Clark and Daniel surfaced, revealing that Daniel was [[Second Jail Arc\|arrested by the FBI]]. It would not be until later on that Clark gave him a another call, revealing that none of what he had been doing up to that point was legitimate, and that he was lying to Daniel. After this, Clark quit managing him, and considering how things had been going, it seemed Clark may have been the last ever manager of Daniel Larson. However, he reappeared in the Larsonverse in September after another jail call, and then was succeeded by [[Lil Sippy]].		On May 1, 2024, phone calls between Clark and Daniel surfaced, revealing that Daniel was [[Second Jail Arc\|arrested by the FBI]]. It would not be until later on that Clark gave him a another call, revealing that none of what he had been doing up to that point was legitimate, and that he was lying to Daniel. After this, Clark quit managing him, and considering how things had been going, it seemed Clark may have been the last ever manager of Daniel Larson. However, he reappeared in the Larsonverse in September after another jail call, and then was succeeded by [[Lil Sippy]].
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	Daniel and Clark's relationship can only be described as unhealthy. For the time Clark managed him, Daniel viewed Clark as his only friend, and in their final calls to each other, Daniel begged Clark to keep being "friends" with him, when they never had such a relationship. For 10 months, Clark (at least, according to him) spoke to Daniel for almost the whole day, and was the only person he had that ~~wasn't~~ [[Bob Proctor]], or [[trolls]] trying to antagonize him.		Daniel and Clark's relationship can only be described as unhealthy. For the time Clark managed him, Daniel viewed Clark as his only friend, and in their final calls to each other, Daniel begged Clark to keep being "friends" with him, when they never had such a relationship. For 10 months, Clark (at least, according to him) spoke to Daniel for almost the whole day, and was the only person he had that was not [[Bob Proctor]], or [[trolls]] trying to antagonize him.

	=== Bob Proctor ===		=== Bob Proctor ===

User:Eloy23X12102

Eloy23X12102 — Sun, 13 Sep 2026 01:34:24 GMT

User account Eloy23X12102 was created

Minor Incidents

AllHailJonas — Sat, 12 Sep 2026 18:46:43 GMT

List of Incidents

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 === Oakland Meltdown ===
 Daniel took a train to Oakland, California on August 20, 2021, believing that he was going to Los Angeles. On August 21, 2021, Daniel had a meltdown in the streets of Oakland, both reported by local fans and confirmed in a TikTok uploaded by Daniel himself. <ref>reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1mtz9gn/daniel_having_a_meltdown_in_oakland/</ref> During the meltdown, Daniel hit himself in the head and groin, whimpering and sobbing, stating that he was "done for". The local fans claimed that Daniel was throwing items, such as his backpack. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/p93k07/attention_to_oakland_residents_i_drove_past_what/</ref>
 === May 17th Meltdown ===

The Dark Ages

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	The Dark Ages, or The Larsonian Blackout, refers to points within the Daniel Larson timeline where seemingly out of nowhere, Daniel's posts came to a sudden stop, due to anything explainable or unexplainable. As coined by the community, a Larsonian Blackout usually lasts at least 7 days without communication or status updates from Daniel. While the term was coined during the time he went missing following the Casino Freakout in [[Las Vegas Arc\|Las Vegas]], Daniel has gone missing numerous times, or has gone off the radar in the past.		The Dark Ages, or The Larsonian Blackout, refers to points within the Daniel Larson timeline where seemingly out of nowhere, Daniel's posts came to a sudden stop, due to anything explainable or unexplainable. As coined by the community, a Larsonian Blackout usually lasts at least 7 days without communication or status updates from Daniel. While the term was coined during the time he went missing following the Casino Freakout in [[Las Vegas Arc\|Las Vegas]], Daniel has gone missing numerous times, or has gone off the radar in the past.

	~~[[The Ending\|We are currently in a Dark Age.]]~~

	== December-March 2021 Blackout ==		== December-March 2021 Blackout ==
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	== The Second Jail Arc ==		== The Second Jail Arc ==
	In the latest ~~and current~~ blackout, Daniel was arrested on 7 counts of making terroristic threats on the [[Jail Arc 2\|30th of April 2024]], which are considered felonies. ~~He has~~ deemed incompetent to stand trial ~~in July~~ and ~~is currently institutionalized for~~ a ~~mental health evaluation~~. ~~Should Daniel be convicted, this blackout may last~~ several ~~years~~.		In the latest blackout, Daniel was arrested on 7 counts of making terroristic threats on the [[Jail Arc 2\|30th of April 2024]], all of which are considered felonies. Daniel was facing up to 65 years in federal prison. after spending 2 years in jail and some time in a prison hospital after being deemed incompetent to stand trial, Daniel was sentenced to a 2 year suspended sentence with time served and was released to a caregiver under supervision. Since then he has been spotted several time public.

Daniel and the Law

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	=== 2017 ===		=== 2017 ===
			[[File:DanielMugshot.png\|thumb\|Daniel's first mugshot.]]
	On November 6, 2017, Daniel was [[November 6th Arrest\|arrested for third-degree assault]] after getting into a physical altercation with his wheelchair bound [[Elisabeth Shimer\|mother]], which ended up with him being sent to jail for 44-45 days. It is unknown what caused this situation, however, Daniel claims that it was aggravated after his mother allegedly cornered him, causing him to push her to the side. On this day, Daniel also received charges for instances of property damage and criminal mischief. What happened to cause these charges is unknown and will most likely stay unknown.		On November 6, 2017, Daniel was [[November 6th Arrest\|arrested for third-degree assault]] after getting into a physical altercation with his wheelchair bound [[Elisabeth Shimer\|mother]], which ended up with him being sent to jail for 44-45 days. It is unknown what caused this situation, however, Daniel claims that it was aggravated after his mother allegedly cornered him, causing him to push her to the side. On this day, Daniel also received charges for instances of property damage and criminal mischief. What happened to cause these charges is unknown and will most likely stay unknown.
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	~~DanielMugshot~~.png\|Daniel's ~~first mugshot~~.		DanielCriminalRecord2017.png\|Daniel's charges.
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	=== 2020 ===		=== 2020 ===

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	~~Just as~~ the ~~title says~~		Daniel is the one with a bowl cut on the top right.

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	~~Just as~~ the ~~title says~~		Daniel is the second to the left.

Daniel and the Law

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	=== 2017 ===		=== 2017 ===
	On November 6, 2017, Daniel was [[November 6th Arrest\|arrested for third-degree assault]] after getting into a physical altercation with his wheelchair bound [[Elisabeth Shimer\|mother]], which ended up with him being sent to jail for 44-45 days. It is unknown what caused this situation, however, Daniel claims that it was aggravated after his mother allegedly cornered him, causing him to push her to the side. On this day, Daniel also received charges for instances of property damage and criminal mischief. What happened to cause these charges is unknown and will most likely stay unknown.		On November 6, 2017, Daniel was [[November 6th Arrest\|arrested for third-degree assault]] after getting into a physical altercation with his wheelchair bound [[Elisabeth Shimer\|mother]], which ended up with him being sent to jail for 44-45 days. It is unknown what caused this situation, however, Daniel claims that it was aggravated after his mother allegedly cornered him, causing him to push her to the side. On this day, Daniel also received charges for instances of property damage and criminal mischief. What happened to cause these charges is unknown and will most likely stay unknown.
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			DanielMugshot.png\|Daniel's first mugshot.
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	=== 2020 ===		=== 2020 ===

Daniel Larson

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	[[File:Openingschool.png\|left\|thumb\|284x284px\|Daniel, at the opening of Sobesky Academy. ]]		[[File:Openingschool.png\|left\|thumb\|284x284px\|Daniel, at the opening of Sobesky Academy. ]]

	In many of the photos from his time in musical theater, Daniel is visibly smaller than almost all of his classmates, only exacerbated by his odd bowl-cut hairstyle. Daniel may suffer from ~~something such as [[wikipedia:Progeria\|progeria]]~~, which would explain his physical appearance, though this claim cannot be substantiated.		In many of the photos from his time in musical theater, Daniel is visibly smaller than almost all of his classmates, only exacerbated by his odd bowl-cut hairstyle. Daniel may suffer from some sort of phsyical disease, which would explain his physical appearance, though this claim cannot be substantiated.

	Daniel began attending [[Sobesky Academy]] in 2016, the same year that it opened. It should be noted that Sobesky, while having a large population of children with special needs, was not exclusively a special needs school. This was due to Sobesky being an [[wikipedia:Alternative_school\|alternative school]], which aimed to rehabilitate troubled students and prepare them for reintegrating with their district schools.<ref>[[FlyingFoxandwings AMA]]</ref> Due to him never being reintegrated, there are questions surrounding the validity of his high school diploma.		Daniel began attending [[Sobesky Academy]] in 2016, the same year that it opened. It should be noted that Sobesky, while having a large population of children with special needs, was not exclusively a special needs school. This was due to Sobesky being an [[wikipedia:Alternative_school\|alternative school]], which aimed to rehabilitate troubled students and prepare them for reintegrating with their district schools.<ref>[[FlyingFoxandwings AMA]]</ref> Due to him never being reintegrated, there are questions surrounding the validity of his high school diploma.

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Travis Larson

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	'''James “Travis” Larson''' is the father of [[Daniel Larson]], [[Family\|Joyetta Larson, Olivia Larson, and Aurora Larson]], ex-lover of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], ex-son-in-law of [[Nancy Shimer]], and the husband of [[Family\|Paige Larson]].		'''James “Travis” Larson''' is the father of [[Daniel Larson]], [[Family\|Joyetta Larson, Olivia Larson, and Aurora Larson]], ex-lover of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], ex-son-in-law of [[Nancy Shimer]], and the husband of [[Family\|Paige Larson]].

	Not much is known about Travis' involvement in Daniel's life, and is generally disliked by most of the community. However, based on the interview with him, it can be assumed that the relationship between the two deteriorated long before he was an adult. This can also be said for his relationship with Daniel's mother, Elisabeth, as well.		Not much is known about Travis' involvement in Daniel's life, and he is generally disliked by most of the community. However, based on the interview with him, it can be assumed that the relationship between the two deteriorated long before he was an adult. This can also be said for his relationship with Daniel's mother, Elisabeth, as well.

	Just like Elisabeth, there are also extremely tenuous claims of Travis abusing Daniel, with Daniel even claiming that Travis made him smoke cigars at a young age.<ref>[[November 6th Arrest]]</ref> Though, like many of Daniel's other claims, this should be taken with a grain of salt due to him being an unreliable narrator. Suffice to say, Travis officially distanced himself from Daniel and his mother long ago, wishing to be left alone.		Just like Elisabeth, there are also extremely tenuous claims of Travis abusing Daniel, with Daniel even claiming that Travis made him smoke cigars at a young age.<ref>[[November 6th Arrest]]</ref> Though, like many of Daniel's other claims, this should be taken with a grain of salt due to him being an unreliable narrator. Suffice to say, Travis officially distanced himself from Daniel and his mother long ago, wishing to be left alone.

Josh Wilman

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Redirected page to Flexburger

New page

#REDIRECT [[Flexburger]]

Josh Wells

TalkTuahLunchly — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 00:23:41 GMT

Redirected page to Flexburger

New page

#REDIRECT [[Flexburger]]

User:TheToothBrush

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Grace VanderWaal

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	On April 17, 2024, Grace publicly addressed Daniel in a comment on her TikTok account, calling him a "pedophile who has haunted her life". She subsequently filtered out mentions of his name from her comment sections. Messages to her mother indicate that Grace and her family do not wish to have contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. In response to continued references to him in the comment sections, Grace later disabled comments on her TikTok account entirely.		On April 17, 2024, Grace publicly addressed Daniel in a comment on her TikTok account, calling him a "pedophile who has haunted her life". She subsequently filtered out mentions of his name from her comment sections. Messages to her mother indicate that Grace and her family do not wish to have contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. In response to continued references to him in the comment sections, Grace later disabled comments on her TikTok account entirely.

	Despite being told off by her mother, Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently, in late 2024, during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he still expressed his love for her in phone calls, even while incarcerated, and talked about her possibly bailing him out. When Daniel was released in 2026, he used his care provider's YouTube account to make comments on her videos. Despite being on medication and relatively calmer, he still desires to date Grace.		Despite being told off by her mother, Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently, in late 2024, during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he still expressed his love for her in phone calls, even while incarcerated, and talked about her possibly bailing him out. When Daniel was released in 2026, he used his care provider's YouTube account to make comments on her videos. Despite being on medication and relatively calmer, he still desires to date Grace. During an [[September 1st Interview\|interview]] with a fan, he encouraged Grace to contact him.

	Despite repeated warnings from countless people online, her mother Tina, her brother Jakob, and even Grace herself, Daniel continued to believe he was in a relationship with Grace. His delusions have persisted into his [[Second Jail Arc\|incarceration]] due to many interactions with trolls. As of 2026, Daniel's head-canon is wanting to let go of his past, and get back with Grace.		Despite repeated warnings from countless people online, her mother Tina, her brother Jakob, and even Grace herself, Daniel continued to believe he was in a relationship with Grace. His delusions have persisted into his [[Second Jail Arc\|incarceration]] due to many interactions with trolls. As of 2026, Daniel's head-canon is wanting to let go of his past, and get back with Grace.
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	{{Quote\|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}		{{Quote\|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}

	Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. Tina replied multiple times in this thread, telling him to take control of his life, calling out all his delusions and telling him for the final time to stop harassing Grace. This is the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel regarding Grace.		Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. Tina replied multiple times in this thread, telling him to take control of his life, calling out all his delusions and telling him for the final time to stop harassing Grace. This is the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel regarding Grace before her death in October 2025.

	=== Grace Rape Troll ===		=== Grace Rape Troll ===

October 2022

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October 16

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	* A meeting is called to address the damage Daniel did in the house as well as the frequent deliveries.		* A meeting is called to address the damage Daniel did in the house as well as the frequent deliveries.
	* Daniel has a meltdown in Ms. P’s house. He later was kicked out by the care providers and the police.		* Daniel has a [[October 16th Incident\|meltdown]] in Ms. P’s house. He later was '''kicked out''' by the care providers and the police.
			* '''Daniel becomes homeless again.'''
	* Daniel posts videos explaining the situation at Ms. P’s house.		* Daniel posts videos explaining the situation at Ms. P’s house.
	* Daniel posts more videos talking about Shield, ~~he even one point said~~ the ~~hard r in 2 separate videos~~.		* Daniel posts more videos talking about Shield.
			* Daniel has another meltdown on TikTok, including saying the [[Self Defense Word]] twice.
	* Daniel's TikTok account @famousdaniellarson is banned.		* Daniel's TikTok account @famousdaniellarson is banned.
	* Daniel was [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fdvajzz01qau91.jpg&rdt=45812 arrested] for failing to appear on a charge of property damage		* Daniel was [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fdvajzz01qau91.jpg&rdt=45812 arrested] for failing to appear on a charge of property damage

January 2022

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Sometime

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	* [[Bianka]] becomes Daniel's manager.		* [[Bianka]] becomes Daniel's manager.

			==== January 1 ====

			* Grace's brother, Jakob VanderWaal, messages Daniel to leave the family alone with the threat of legal action. This causes Daniel to freak out and go to the hospital. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>

	==== January 5 ====		==== January 5 ====

December 2021

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	* [[Samantha]] is fired.		* [[Samantha]] is fired.
	* Grace's brother, Jakob VanderWaal, messages Daniel to leave the family alone with the threat of legal action. This causes Daniel to freak out and go to the hospital. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>

	==== December 1 ====		==== December 1 ====

Grace VanderWaal

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	=== Jakob VanderWaal ===		=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
	Daniel's extreme obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him ~~in December 2021~~. He confronted Daniel, telling him to leave her and their family alone, and were considering putting a restraining order against him with the threat of building a criminal case. Daniel had an intense reaction to this confrontation, as he went to the hospital and at one point, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref>		Daniel's extreme obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him on or around January 1, 2022. He confronted Daniel, telling him to leave her and their family alone, and were considering putting a restraining order against him with the threat of building a criminal case. Daniel had an intense reaction to this confrontation, as he went to the hospital and at one point, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref>

	=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] ===		=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] ===

Elisabeth Shimer

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	== Custody Battle for Daniel ==		== Custody Battle for Daniel ==
	Elisabeth, along with Travis, tried regaining custody of ~~daniel~~ as they believed that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] was not doing a good job taking care of Daniel. According to Travis, Nancy retained custody of Daniel because she was better off financially. Elisabeth was eventually given visitation rights to Daniel after the custody ~~distpute~~.		Elisabeth, along with Travis, tried regaining custody of Daniel as they believed that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] was not doing a good job taking care of Daniel. According to Travis, Nancy retained custody of Daniel because she was better off financially. Elisabeth was eventually given visitation rights to Daniel after the custody dispute.
	==Relationships==		==Relationships==
	[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]		[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]

Daniel MacDougall

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	With all 7 charges, Daniel can face up to 65 years in prison and $1.7 million dollars in fines.		With all 7 charges, Daniel can face up to 65 years in prison and $1.7 million dollars in fines.

	Clark also confirmed that Management had worked alongside MacDougall to arrest Daniel in the weeks leading up to the arrest. Since the arrest, MacDougall has not reappeared in the Larsonverse.		Clark also confirmed that Management had worked alongside MacDougall to arrest Daniel in the weeks leading up to the arrest. Since the arrest, MacDougall has not reappeared in the Larsonverse. When Daniel was sentenced on July 21, 2026, he was ordered to not have contact with MacDougall.
	[[File:Daniel Larson felony counts.jpg\|left\|thumb]]		[[File:Daniel Larson felony counts.jpg\|left\|thumb]]

Big Bank Records

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	== Overview ==		== Overview ==
	The [https://www.discogs.com/label/53580-Big-Bank-Records ~~real~~ Big Bank Records] was active in the ~~early~~ 2000s- it is unlikely Daniel was actually contacted by the authentic one. It is more likely that BBR was made by a troll, as they would later go on to heavily harass Daniel, with [[Flexburger]] claiming in a AMA that [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/flexburger_ama_may_6th_2023/ Big Bank Records was calling Daniel the N-word] while he was in class. At first it seems they had a collaborative mindset before delving into trolling.		The real [https://www.discogs.com/label/53580-Big-Bank-Records Big Bank Records] was active in the 1990s and 2000s. it is unlikely Daniel was actually contacted by the authentic one. It is more likely that BBR was made by a troll, as they would later go on to heavily harass Daniel, with [[Flexburger]] claiming in a AMA that [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/flexburger_ama_may_6th_2023/ Big Bank Records was calling Daniel the N-word] while he was in class. At first it seems they had a collaborative mindset before delving into trolling.

	== References in music ==		== References in music ==

Roaring Thunder

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	"'''Roaring Thunder'''" is a song performed by [[Daniel Larson]]. The song was released on July 15, 2021, and is the first professionally recorded song released by him. It is arguably his best-known song and one of the most well-known parts of his internet career, having over 1.2 million streams on Spotify as of September 2025. The song has also received traction on social media platforms such as TikTok, where the song has been used in over 3,000 videos with some videos reaching well over 500k likes.		"'''Roaring Thunder'''" is a song performed by [[Daniel Larson]]. The song was released on July 15, 2021, and is the first professionally recorded song released by him. It is arguably his best-known song and one of the most well-known parts of his internet career, having over 1.2 million streams on Spotify as of September 2025. The song has also received traction on social media platforms such as TikTok, where the song has been used in over 3,000 videos with some videos reaching well over 500k likes.

	The song was recorded in a professional studio paid for by [[Bob Proctor]]. Even more, it was written and produced by [https://csmedialabs.com/capek/ Tom Capek] of Colorado Sound, who is best known for composing for famous singers such as Eminem and The Black Eyed Peas.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/comment/jj46bn8/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/pj1b6j/who_actually_helped_produce_roaring_thunder/</ref> Daniel claimed to have written the song himself, but it's unlikely this is true; he is ~~notably~~ [[Daniel and Intelligence#Literacy\|~~illiterate~~]] and obviously does not possess the capabilities to write such lyrics. Instead, it is way more likely that Bob purchased the rights to a pre-written song (or multiple). This would cover all tasks such as mixing and mastering, and all Daniel would need to do is record vocals in the studio, and receive the final song.		The song was recorded in a professional studio paid for by [[Bob Proctor]]. Even more, it was written and produced by [https://csmedialabs.com/capek/ Tom Capek] of Colorado Sound, who is best known for composing for famous singers such as Eminem and The Black Eyed Peas.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/139sc49/comment/jj46bn8/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/pj1b6j/who_actually_helped_produce_roaring_thunder/</ref> Daniel claimed to have written the song himself, but it's unlikely this is true; he is barely [[Daniel and Intelligence#Literacy\|literate]] and obviously does not possess the capabilities to write such lyrics. Instead, it is way more likely that Bob purchased the rights to a pre-written song (or multiple). This would cover all tasks such as mixing and mastering, and all Daniel would need to do is record vocals in the studio, and receive the final song.

	==Listen==		==Listen==

Elisabeth Shimer

Masterofthepit — Sat, 05 Sep 2026 22:59:43 GMT

User:Clukas38

Clukas38 — Sat, 05 Sep 2026 17:46:23 GMT

User account Clukas38 was created

Daniel MacDougall

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	{{Contact\|MacDougall is a real Secret Service Agent and calling him can put you in a lot of trouble. He dealt with some individuals who were associated with Daniel.}}		{{Contact\|MacDougall is a real Secret Service Agent and calling him can put you in a lot of trouble. He dealt with some individuals who were associated with Daniel. Furthermore, Daniel is no longer allowed to have contact with MacDougall.}}

	'''Daniel MacDougall''', often referred to as "'''MacDougall'''" to avoid confusion with [[Daniel]] Larson or misspelled '''McDougall''', is a Secret Service agent who played a notable role in Daniel Larson's story, often seen as an antagonist. He was assigned to work on cases involving Daniel with their connection frequently cited in relation to multiple incidents and statements made by Daniel, emphasizing MacDougall's role in addressing the situations.		'''Daniel MacDougall''', often referred to as "'''MacDougall'''" to avoid confusion with [[Daniel]] Larson or misspelled '''McDougall''', is a Secret Service agent who played a notable role in Daniel Larson's story, often seen as an antagonist. He was assigned to work on cases involving Daniel with their connection frequently cited in relation to multiple incidents and statements made by Daniel, emphasizing MacDougall's role in addressing the situations.

Daniel and health

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	His physical strength is notably very weak. During the [[College Arc]], he was challenged to bench press an empty barbell, which typically weighs about 45lbs (or 20kg); his arms collapsed under the weight of it, and another student had to step in to prevent him from being crushed. The average American male in their mid-twenties can usually bench press around 216 pounds (or 98kg), meaning Daniel's strength is less than a fifth of what the average man can lift.		His physical strength is notably very weak. During the [[College Arc]], he was challenged to bench press an empty barbell, which typically weighs about 45lbs (or 20kg); his arms collapsed under the weight of it, and another student had to step in to prevent him from being crushed. The average American male in their mid-twenties can usually bench press around 216 pounds (or 98kg), meaning Daniel's strength is less than a fifth of what the average man can lift.

	Daniel is also notable for his unique body. He has a small stature, a his sunken in chest, and abnormally large feet. It is unclear why he looks the way he does, some have speculated that Daniel suffers from a physical disease such as progeria, which is an extremely rare, progressive genetic disorder. ~~Though~~, this is very unlikely, as the lifespan of those with progeria is typically less than 15.<ref>https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/progeria/symptoms-causes/syc-20356038</ref>		Daniel is also notable for his unique body. He has a small stature, a his sunken in chest, and abnormally large feet. It is unclear why he looks the way he does, some have speculated that Daniel suffers from a physical disease such as progeria, which is an extremely rare, progressive genetic disorder. However, this is very unlikely, as the lifespan of those with progeria is typically less than 15.<ref>https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/progeria/symptoms-causes/syc-20356038</ref>

	However, in January 2026, a witness in one of his court hearings claimed that Daniel had gained a significant amount of weight. <ref>https://x.com/flexburgerr/status/2018767031806697825/photo/2</ref> This was further confirmed during the [[Second Coming Arc]], when Daniel had gained weight following two years of prison.		However, in January 2026, a witness in one of his court hearings claimed that Daniel had gained a significant amount of weight. <ref>https://x.com/flexburgerr/status/2018767031806697825/photo/2</ref> This was further confirmed during the [[Second Coming Arc]], when Daniel had gained weight following two years of prison.

User:Masterofthepit

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Roaring Thunder

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	==Covers==		==Covers==
	~~{{Stub}}~~		<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seS6iGKROdE&list=RDseS6iGKROdE&start_radio=1</youtube>
			<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVhawfhx5Q0&list=RDAVhawfhx5Q0&start_radio=1</youtube>
			<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuQT7cQmzKw&list=RDuuQT7cQmzKw&start_radio=1</youtube>


	==See Also==		==See Also==

Second Jail Arc

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	''This article covers Daniel's arrest on April 30, 2024 for various federal charges and subsequent incarceration. For other uses, see [[Jail (Disambiguation)]].''{{Quote\|I'm on the bus now to Boulder Colorado\|\|author=[[Daniel]]'s last Community Tab post before his arrest}}[[File:DanielMugshot4.png\|thumb\|Why the long face? ]]		''This article covers Daniel's arrest on April 30, 2024 for various federal charges and subsequent incarceration. For other uses, see [[Jail (Disambiguation)]].''{{Quote\|I'm on the bus now to Boulder Colorado\|\|author=[[Daniel]]'s last Community Tab post before his arrest}}[[File:DanielMugshot4.png\|thumb\|Why the long face? ]]

Panera

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#REDIRECT [[Panera Bread Incident]]

September 1st Interview

AllHailJonas — Thu, 03 Sep 2026 05:03:48 GMT

Created page with "{{Ongoing}} On September 1, 2026, Daniel was spotted and interviewed for the first time since his release from prison. Daniel was asked eight questions, such as what prison was like and if he still aspires to be a musician. This interview also further showed the unsurprising fact that Daniel is still obsessed with Grace VanderWaal even after being incarcerated for two years. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDg7h-1W9M</ref> Daniel also spoke to Flexburger for t..."

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{{Ongoing}}

On September 1, 2026, Daniel was spotted and interviewed for the first time since his release from prison. Daniel was asked eight questions, such as what prison was like and if he still aspires to be a musician. This interview also further showed the unsurprising fact that Daniel is still obsessed with Grace VanderWaal even after being incarcerated for two years. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDg7h-1W9M</ref> Daniel also spoke to [[Flexburger]] for the first time in years via FaceTime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDg7h-1W9M</ref>

== Interview ==

=== "How are you?" ===
I'm doing much better now.

=== "When will you return to social media?" ===
I can't post anything right now.

=== "How was [[Second Jail Arc|prison]]?" ===
It was terrible... HELL.

=== "Can we expect new music soon?" ===
I'm working on new music, yes.

=== "How has life been since being released?" ===
Good.

=== "Do you plan on enrolling at [[UCLA Arc|UCLA]] again?" ===
Yes.

=== "Was that you posting on the Subreddit the other day?" ===
It was not me on the subreddit.

=== "Do you have anything you want to tell to the media?" ===
Grace, if you get this message, if you want to contact me, go ahead.

== Call with Flexburger ==
Daniel was with the same fan who interviewed him when he called [[Flexburger]]. Flexburger apologized for the trolling he did in [[2020]].{{collapse top|result=Transcript}}

Daniel: Hello Josh!

Flexburger: Hey, I'm glad we could set this up.

Daniel: Oh thank you!

[video turns on]

Daniel: Hey!

Flexburger: Dude, it's been a long time!

Fan: I think he's gonna be good this time.

[Daniel and Flexburger wave at each other]

Flexburger: I'm not a troll anymore. I'm not a troll anymore.

Daniel: That's good!

Flexburger: And I wanted to apologize for some of the [[May 6th Incident|stuff]] I did to you when I was younger. I was 15 then, I'm almost 21 now.

Daniel: Don't worry, I was younger too. We were all idiots *chuckles*

Flexburger: Yeah exactly. Exactly.

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	== Custody Battle for Daniel ==		== Custody Battle for Daniel ==
	Elisabeth ~~was consistently fighting custody to get Daniel back~~, along with ~~her husband. According to them~~, they believed that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] was not doing a good job taking care of Daniel.		Elisabeth, along with Travis, tried regaining custody of daniel as they believed that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] was not doing a good job taking care of Daniel. According to Travis, Nancy retained custody of Daniel because she was better off financially. Elisabeth was eventually given visitation rights to Daniel after the custody distpute.
	==Relationships==		==Relationships==
	[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]		[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]
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	Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, while at other times claiming that she never abused him at all. Though the exact nature of this alleged abuse is unknown, Daniel has claimed that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years." However, during Daniel's March 2026 trial, the court referenced a report from 2011 where Daniel's mom shared that Daniel had a "non-accidental head injury around age 3 weeks, and a seizure around 5 months," which means that some abuse most likely did take place. That being said though, it is unclear as to whether it was perpetuated by either Elisabeth or Travis. In these same court documents, Daniel reported that when he was 8 years old, his mom allegedly hit him with a hammer. At numerous points, the psychiatrists pointed to these multiple head injuries as a cause for some of Daniel's developmental deficiencies.		Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, while at other times claiming that she never abused him at all. Though the exact nature of this alleged abuse is unknown, Daniel has claimed that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years." However, during Daniel's March 2026 trial, the court referenced a report from 2011 where Daniel's mom shared that Daniel had a "non-accidental head injury around age 3 weeks, and a seizure around 5 months," which means that some abuse most likely did take place. That being said though, it is unclear as to whether it was perpetuated by either Elisabeth or Travis. In these same court documents, Daniel reported that when he was 8 years old, his mom allegedly hit him with a hammer. At numerous points, the psychiatrists pointed to these multiple head injuries as a cause for some of Daniel's developmental deficiencies.

	In Facebook posts made in the early 2010s, Elisabeth would wax poetic about how much she loved Daniel. Even after Travis left her in 2010, Elisabeth still made an effort to try and get ~~her~~ back into her life, but eventually gave up on Daniel herself.		In Facebook posts made in the early 2010s, Elisabeth would wax poetic about how much she loved Daniel. Even after Travis left her in 2010, Elisabeth still made an effort to try and get him back into her life, but eventually gave up on Daniel herself.

	One of Elisabeth's nicknames for Daniel was, "Danny Boy", which he grew to detest and hate being called. Daniel also alleges that Elisabeth hated being called "mom" or "mother", and demanded that Daniel call her "mommy", otherwise she would get upset.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14kn6gg/surprising_revelations_about_daniels_mother/</ref> However, like many others things, it should be noted that Daniel is extremely delusional and his statements should not be taken at face value.		One of Elisabeth's nicknames for Daniel was, "Danny Boy", which he grew to detest and hate being called. Daniel also alleges that Elisabeth hated being called "mom" or "mother", and demanded that Daniel call her "mommy", otherwise she would get upset.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14kn6gg/surprising_revelations_about_daniels_mother/</ref> However, like many others things, it should be noted that Daniel is extremely delusional and his statements should not be taken at face value.
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	There are also extremely tenuous (and more importantly, '''unconfirmed''') claims of Elisabeth sexually assaulting Daniel when he was a young child, which may have kicked off his [[pedophilia]]. This claim comes from question Daniel asked on his [[Quora\|Quora page]] "Has your mother ever given you a hand job as a kid?" as well as a testimony from a person ''claiming'' to be a caretaker of Daniel's who said he had a "history of child sexual abuse." However, this is probably unlikely, given Elisabeth becoming paralyzed, and [[11/6/17 Arrest\|Daniel's history of beating his mother.]]		There are also extremely tenuous (and more importantly, '''unconfirmed''') claims of Elisabeth sexually assaulting Daniel when he was a young child, which may have kicked off his [[pedophilia]]. This claim comes from question Daniel asked on his [[Quora\|Quora page]] "Has your mother ever given you a hand job as a kid?" as well as a testimony from a person ''claiming'' to be a caretaker of Daniel's who said he had a "history of child sexual abuse." However, this is probably unlikely, given Elisabeth becoming paralyzed, and [[11/6/17 Arrest\|Daniel's history of beating his mother.]]

	This would not serve her in the long run, as Daniel was claimed to have beaten his mom and his grandmother for "ten straight years", which painted ''him'' as the abuser. This got to a point where Daniel was even arrested, [[11/6/17 Arrest\|having to serve 44-45 in prison for 3rd degree assault]] after he shoved his mother. In June of 2022, Elisabeth would leave comments on videos made by YouTuber [[Papa Gut]], detailing her experiance with Daniel while he was living with both her and his grandmother,		This would not serve her in the long run, as Daniel was claimed to have beaten his mom and his grandmother for "ten straight years", which painted ''him'' as the abuser. This got to a point where Daniel was even arrested, [[11/6/17 Arrest\|having to serve 44-45 days in prison for 3rd degree assault]] after he shoved his mother. In June of 2022, Elisabeth would leave comments on videos made by YouTuber [[Papa Gut]], detailing her experiance with Daniel while he was living with both her and his grandmother,

	In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities that were beyond autism (such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them, and how Daniel even went to jail because of this physical violence.<ref>[[:File:ElisabethShimerPapaGut(1).png]]</ref>		In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities that were beyond autism (such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them, and how Daniel even went to jail because of this physical violence.<ref>[[:File:ElisabethShimerPapaGut(1).png]]</ref>