Elisabeth Shimer - Revision history

AllHailJonas: /* Custody Battle for Daniel */ Rewording it for past tense since her and Nancy both passed away. I don't know if this is really true. Both disowned him.

2026-04-03T17:51:45Z

Custody Battle for Daniel: Rewording it for past tense since her and Nancy both passed away. I don't know if this is really true. Both disowned him.

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	== Custody Battle for Daniel ==		== Custody Battle for Daniel ==
	Elisabeth ~~has been~~ fighting custody to get Daniel back, along with her husband. According to them, they ~~believe~~ that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] is not doing a good job taking care of Daniel.		Elisabeth was consistently fighting custody to get Daniel back, along with her husband. According to them, they believed that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] was not doing a good job taking care of Daniel.
	==Relationships==		==Relationships==
	[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]		[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]

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	== Custody Battle for Daniel ==		== Custody Battle for Daniel ==
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	Elisabeth has been fighting custody to get Daniel back, along with her husband. According to them, they believe that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] is not doing a good job taking care of Daniel.		Elisabeth has been fighting custody to get Daniel back, along with her husband. According to them, they believe that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] is not doing a good job taking care of Daniel.
	==Relationships==		==Relationships==

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			Elisabeth has been fighting custody to get Daniel back, along with her husband. According to them, they believe that [[Nancy Shimer\|Nancy]] is not doing a good job taking care of Daniel.
	==Relationships==		==Relationships==
	[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]		[[File:Elisabeths post about Travis.png\|thumb\|Elisabeth disavowing Travis. You go, girl!\|280x280px]]

AllHailJonas: /* Relationships */

2026-03-18T02:38:48Z

Relationships

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	''Main article: [[Daniel Larson]]''		''Main article: [[Daniel Larson]]''

	Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins and herself		Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins and herself.

	Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, she never abused him at all. However, during Daniel's trial, the court referenced a report from 2011 where Daniel's mom shared that Daniel had a "non-accidental head injury around age 3 weeks, and a seizure around 5 months.", making abuse at her hands highly probable. A medicated also Daniel reported that when he was 8 years old, his mom hit him with a hammer. At numerous points, the psychiatrists pointed to these multiple head injuries as a cause for some of Daniel's developmental deficiencies.		Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, she never abused him at all. However, during Daniel's trial, the court referenced a report from 2011 where Daniel's mom shared that Daniel had a "non-accidental head injury around age 3 weeks, and a seizure around 5 months.", making abuse at her hands highly probable. A medicated also Daniel reported that when he was 8 years old, his mom hit him with a hammer. At numerous points, the psychiatrists pointed to these multiple head injuries as a cause for some of Daniel's developmental deficiencies.

FuckassBob: /* Biography */

2026-03-17T20:43:34Z

Biography

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	Sometime in October 2024, Elisabeth passed away from undisclosed causes.		Sometime in October 2024, Elisabeth passed away from undisclosed causes.
	==Biography==		==Biography==
	Elisabeth Lee Shimer was born on November 4, 1976, in California. She is the adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family\|Daniel William Shimer]]. Nancy was said to have adopted her through connections from her job as a social worker, as her job required relocating infants to care homes, with Elisabeth being one of these infants.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> Due to this, information on her biological family is unknown. While unconfirmed, Elisabeth herself most likely suffers from the same mental disabilities Daniel has, or is at least ~~somewhat~~ mentally challenged. These claims come from her appearance, which is generally not seen in able-bodied individuals, ~~and~~ disabilities such as autism having very high heritability rates. However, until further information comes out, it will remain unknown exactly ~~what~~ she suffers from.		Elisabeth Lee Shimer was born on November 4, 1976, in California. She is the adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family\|Daniel William Shimer]]. Nancy was said to have adopted her through connections from her job as a social worker, as her job required relocating infants to care homes, with Elisabeth being one of these infants.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> Due to this, information surrounding her biological family is relatively unknown. While unconfirmed, Elisabeth herself most likely suffers from the same mental disabilities Daniel has, or is at least mentally challenged to some degree. These claims come from her appearance, which is generally not seen in able-bodied individuals, as well as disabilities such as autism (which Daniel is afflicted with) having very high heritability rates. However, until further information comes out, it will remain unknown what exactly she suffers from.

	Elisabeth was adopted by Nancy prior to her divorce with Daniel Shimer, her adoptive father. It is unknown what real to relationship she had with him or her adoptive sisters.		Elisabeth was adopted by Nancy prior to her divorce with Daniel Shimer, her adoptive father. It is unknown what real to relationship she had with him or her adoptive sisters.
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	Later on, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She gave birth to Daniel's only biological siblings, [[Family\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]], on March 27, 2001. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>		Later on, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She gave birth to Daniel's only biological siblings, [[Family\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]], on March 27, 2001. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>

	Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs\|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>		Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs\|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, which she described as leaving her “terminally ill,” compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>

	But not long after, she would have no custody over ~~him~~, as [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] would be taken away by the state of Colorado and begin living in foster care, and eventually the [[Tennyson Center]]. While the reason stated for Daniel being taken away was due to neglect, it is unconfirmed as to what Elisabeth (or Travis) did to him.[[File:Elisabeth's Tweets.png\|thumb\|328x328px\|Elisabeth, tweeting about her "music career"]]Daniel has stated that his mother “couldn’t take care of him anymore,”{{Citation Needed}} and given the fact that at this time Elisabeth was disabled and in a wheelchair, it is very likely that her disability impacted her ability and to care for him, resulting in neglect. Even so, it is hard to tell what is true about Elisabeth and what is not, due to Daniel constantly going back and forth on whether he was abused or not. This seems likely, though, as in 2010, Travis and Elisabeth had parted ways. According to one of Elisabeths facbeook posts, this occured after Travis told Elisabeth to stay away from Daniel, as he would "never get better". With this absence, it most likely added an extra factor of difficulty to parenting Daniel.		But not long after, she would have no custody over her son, as [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] would be taken away by the state of Colorado and begin living in foster care, and eventually the [[Tennyson Center]]. While the reason stated for Daniel being taken away was due to neglect, it is unconfirmed as to what Elisabeth (or Travis) did to him.[[File:Elisabeth's Tweets.png\|thumb\|328x328px\|Elisabeth, tweeting about her "music career"]]Daniel has stated that his mother “couldn’t take care of him anymore,”{{Citation Needed}} and given the fact that at this time Elisabeth was disabled and in a wheelchair, it is very likely that her disability impacted her ability and to care for him, resulting in neglect. Even so, it is hard to tell what is true about Elisabeth and what is not, due to Daniel constantly going back and forth on whether he was abused or not. This seems likely, though, as in 2010, Travis and Elisabeth had parted ways. According to one of Elisabeths facbeook posts, this occured after Travis told Elisabeth to stay away from Daniel, as he would "never get better". With this absence, it most likely added an extra factor of difficulty to parenting Daniel.
	With her new husband, James Avey, who she'd get engaged to on January 1st, 2011, she would co-own their business, [[Avey Incubator Inc]] in 2010, which sold animal incubators.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484311132578%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref>		With her new husband, James Avey, who she'd get engaged to on January 1st, 2011, she would co-own their business, [[Avey Incubator Inc]] in 2010, which sold animal incubators.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484311132578%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref>
	[[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png\|left\|thumb\|284x284px\|Elisabeth, and James Avey. ]]		[[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png\|left\|thumb\|284x284px\|Elisabeth, and James Avey. ]]

FuckassBob: /* Death */

2026-03-17T20:39:42Z

Death

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	Elisabeth is assumed to have passed away around or during October 2024 at the age of 47 due to unknown circumstances. The circumstances of her death are widely debated, with many attempting to contest that Daniel's mother had truly passed.		Elisabeth is assumed to have passed away around or during October 2024 at the age of 47 due to unknown circumstances. The circumstances of her death are widely debated, with many attempting to contest that Daniel's mother had truly passed.

	Elisabeth's death was initially made known by Daniel's biological aunt, Donna Mcelroy. It is widely believed that Donna is Elisabeth's sister from her biological family. This relationship is reinforced by past posts made by Donna which Elisabeth commented on. In a Facebook post made in August 2024, Donna made it known that she had not heard from Elisabeth in nearly two years, before posting in October of same year, announcing Elisabeths death and asking for further information regarding it.		Elisabeth's death was initially made known by Daniel's biological aunt, Donna Mcelroy. It is widely believed that Donna is Elisabeth's sister from her biological family, as Donna is not documented to be one of Nancy’s biological children. This relationship is reinforced by past posts made by Donna which Elisabeth commented on wherein Donna refers to Elisabeth as her sister. In a Facebook post made in August 2024, Donna made it known that she had not heard from Elisabeth in nearly two years, before posting in October of same year, announcing Elisabeths death and asking for further information regarding it.

	As of 2025, it is still unknown what caused Elisabeths death. Additionally, the status of her husband is also unknown.		As of 2025, it is still unknown what caused Elisabeths death. Additionally, the status of her husband is also unknown.

FuckassBob: Added "circa" to her death date because we actually don't really know when Elisabeth died

2026-03-17T20:28:55Z

Added "circa" to her death date because we actually don't really know when Elisabeth died

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	{{Quote\|My son is my heart....I would sacrifice everything for him that is in my life..........I LOVE YOU MY BIG BOY...................\|\|author=Elisabeth, about a young [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]]. That did not age well.}}		{{Quote\|My son is my heart....I would sacrifice everything for him that is in my life..........I LOVE YOU MY BIG BOY...................\|\|author=Elisabeth, about a young [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]]. That did not age well.}}
	{{Infobox\|image=ElisabethShimer.jpeg\|imageDesc=Notice her distinct lack of eyebrows.\|name=Elisabeth Shimer\|Knownas=Lisa\|Alignment=Daniel Larson’s mother\|DOB=November 4, 1976 - October 2024 (aged 47)\|Nationality=American\|Race=White\|Parents= [[Nancy Shimer]] (1947–2019)<br>[[Family#Daniel William Shimer\|Daniel William Shimer]] (1943–2015)\|Arcs=[[Before Era]]}}		{{Infobox\|image=ElisabethShimer.jpeg\|imageDesc=Notice her distinct lack of eyebrows.\|name=Elisabeth Shimer\|Knownas=Lisa\|Alignment=Daniel Larson’s mother\|DOB=November 4, 1976 - October 2024 (aged 47)\|Nationality=American\|Race=White\|Parents= [[Nancy Shimer]] (1947–2019)<br>[[Family#Daniel William Shimer\|Daniel William Shimer]] (1943–2015)\|Arcs=[[Before Era]]}}
	'''Elisabeth Lee Avey''' (née '''Shimer''', pronounced: [shy-mer]; November 4, 1976 – October 2024), name commonly mispelled as '''Elizabeth''', was the ex-lover of [[Travis Larson]], adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family#Daniel William Shimer\|Daniel William Shimer]], and most notably, the mother of [[Daniel Larson]] and his late siblings, [[Family#Joyetta and Olivia Larson\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson.]]		'''Elisabeth Lee Avey''' (née '''Shimer''', pronounced: [shy-mer]; November 4, 1976 – c. October 2024), name commonly mispelled as '''Elizabeth''', was the ex-lover of [[Travis Larson]], adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family#Daniel William Shimer\|Daniel William Shimer]], and most notably, the mother of [[Daniel Larson]] and his late siblings, [[Family#Joyetta and Olivia Larson\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson.]]

	Daniel's father has remained a rather unpopular figure in the Daniel Larson community, but the same cannot be said for Elisabeth. She has remained consistently disliked, even by Daniel. Elisabeth had been accused of being highly neglectful and abusive towards her son, which is questionable, although somewhat substantiated due to the fact that Daniel was relocated to the [[Tennyson Center]] during his childhood. Despite this fact, Elisabeth had also accused her own son of abuse towards her, which is substantiated as Elisabeth was documented to have been [[November 6th Arrest\|assaulted by Daniel]] when he was 18 years old. Despite these mutual accusations of abuse, Elisabeth’s behaviors seem to have rubbed off onto Daniel during his childhood, as [[Discography\|much like her son]], she too had an interest in music.		Daniel's father has remained a rather unpopular figure in the Daniel Larson community, but the same cannot be said for Elisabeth. She has remained consistently disliked, even by Daniel. Elisabeth had been accused of being highly neglectful and abusive towards her son, which is questionable, although somewhat substantiated due to the fact that Daniel was relocated to the [[Tennyson Center]] during his childhood. Despite this fact, Elisabeth had also accused her own son of abuse towards her, which is substantiated as Elisabeth was documented to have been [[November 6th Arrest\|assaulted by Daniel]] when he was 18 years old. Despite these mutual accusations of abuse, Elisabeth’s behaviors seem to have rubbed off onto Daniel during his childhood, as [[Discography\|much like her son]], she too had an interest in music.
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	=== Death ===		=== Death ===
	Elisabeth ~~died in~~ October 2024 at the age of 47 due to unknown circumstances. The circumstances of her death are widely debated, with many attempting to contest that Daniel's mother had truly passed.		Elisabeth is assumed to have passed away around or during October 2024 at the age of 47 due to unknown circumstances. The circumstances of her death are widely debated, with many attempting to contest that Daniel's mother had truly passed.

	Elisabeth's death was initially made known by Daniel's biological aunt, Donna Mcelroy. It is widely believed that Donna is Elisabeth's sister from her biological family. This relationship is reinforced by past posts made by Donna which Elisabeth commented on. In a Facebook post made in August 2024, Donna made it known that she had not heard from Elisabeth in nearly two years, before posting in October of same year, announcing Elisabeths death and asking for further information regarding it.		Elisabeth's death was initially made known by Daniel's biological aunt, Donna Mcelroy. It is widely believed that Donna is Elisabeth's sister from her biological family. This relationship is reinforced by past posts made by Donna which Elisabeth commented on. In a Facebook post made in August 2024, Donna made it known that she had not heard from Elisabeth in nearly two years, before posting in October of same year, announcing Elisabeths death and asking for further information regarding it.

Sorades: /* Daniel */

2026-03-17T09:59:16Z

Daniel

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	''Main article: [[Daniel Larson]]''		''Main article: [[Daniel Larson]]''

	Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins.		Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins and herself

	Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, she never abused him at all. However, during Daniel's trial, the court referenced a report from 2011 where Daniel's mom shared that Daniel had a "non-accidental head injury around age 3 weeks, and a seizure around 5 months.", making abuse at her hands highly probable. A medicated also Daniel reported that when he was 8 years old, his mom hit him with a hammer. At numerous points, the psychiatrists pointed to these multiple head injuries as a cause for some of Daniel's developmental deficiencies.		Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, she never abused him at all. However, during Daniel's trial, the court referenced a report from 2011 where Daniel's mom shared that Daniel had a "non-accidental head injury around age 3 weeks, and a seizure around 5 months.", making abuse at her hands highly probable. A medicated also Daniel reported that when he was 8 years old, his mom hit him with a hammer. At numerous points, the psychiatrists pointed to these multiple head injuries as a cause for some of Daniel's developmental deficiencies.
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	In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities that were beyond autism (such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them, and how Daniel even went to jail because of this physical violence.<ref>[[:File:ElisabethShimerPapaGut(1).png]]</ref>		In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities that were beyond autism (such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them, and how Daniel even went to jail because of this physical violence.<ref>[[:File:ElisabethShimerPapaGut(1).png]]</ref>
	{{Quote\|I'm Danny's mom and yes we have moved here for the services. He doesn't just have autism he has severe bi polar and shizophrenic. He has beaten me and my mom... he has lied and has fantasies about so many things. He does not want to listen to authority...he is not famous but wants to beleive he is.he does what he wants and if you dont let him he gets violent..if you want more information contact me\|Elisabeth, in Papa Guts comment section.<ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>\|author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>}}		{{Quote\|I'm Danny's mom and yes we have moved here for the services. He doesn't just have autism he has severe bi polar and shizophrenic. He has beaten me and my mom... he has lied and has fantasies about so many things. He does not want to listen to authority...he is not famous but wants to beleive he is.he does what he wants and if you dont let him he gets violent..if you want more information contact me\|Elisabeth, in Papa Guts comment section.<ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>\|author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>}}
	~~Suffice to say~~, she ~~had absolutely no more~~ love for Daniel and ~~had grown~~ to ~~despise him~~, ~~despite being the only (biological) family she has still left~~.		Daniel still maintained contact with her throughout her later life. In some leaked text massages, she stated that despite everything that happened, her love for Daniel still remained, and pleaded for Daniel to finally get the help he needed. Sadly, Daniel did not reciprocate her love or pleas and started insulting her when calling out his delusions.

			When Daniel was informed of her death in prison, he showed no interest.

	== Gallery ==		== Gallery ==

FuckassBob: /* Biography */

2026-03-11T15:52:17Z

Biography

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	In 1990, Elisabeth enrolled in YPIA (Young Peoples Institute of Arts and Academics), where she graduated from in 1993.<ref name=":0">https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> From 1995 to 2004, Elisabeth enrolled in Antelope Valley College, graduating in Music and Performing Arts.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> Not long after enrolling in AVC, Elisabeth would meet [[Travis Larson]], who, not long after, would help conceive Daniel with, to which she would give birth on November 15th, 1998.[[File:Daniel's Mother Greiving.png\|thumb\|500x500px\|Daniel's mother grieving the deaths of Joyetta and Olivia.]]		In 1990, Elisabeth enrolled in YPIA (Young Peoples Institute of Arts and Academics), where she graduated from in 1993.<ref name=":0">https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> From 1995 to 2004, Elisabeth enrolled in Antelope Valley College, graduating in Music and Performing Arts.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> Not long after enrolling in AVC, Elisabeth would meet [[Travis Larson]], who, not long after, would help conceive Daniel with, to which she would give birth on November 15th, 1998.[[File:Daniel's Mother Greiving.png\|thumb\|500x500px\|Daniel's mother grieving the deaths of Joyetta and Olivia.]]
	Later on, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She gave birth to Daniel's only siblings, [[Family\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]] on March 27, 2001. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>		Later on, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She gave birth to Daniel's only biological siblings, [[Family\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]], on March 27, 2001. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>

	Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs\|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>		Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs\|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>

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	Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins.		Daniel is Elisabeth's first and only biological child after the death of her twins.

	Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, ~~saying that~~ she ~~had~~ never abused him at all. However, in Facebook posts made in the early 2010's, Elisabeth would wax poetic about how much she loved Daniel. Even after Travis left her in 2010, Elisabeth still made an effort to try and get her back into her life, but eventually gave up on Daniel herself.		Elisabeth's relationship with Daniel can be best described as shattered. Daniel has claimed that Elisabeth was abusive to him during his childhood, though the exact nature of this abuse is unknown, as one time he said that she and Travis beat him with belts for "15 years", and at another time, she never abused him at all. However, during Daniel's trial, the court referenced a report from 2011 where Daniel's mom shared that Daniel had a "non-accidental head injury around age 3 weeks, and a seizure around 5 months.", making abuse at her hands highly probable. A medicated also Daniel reported that when he was 8 years old, his mom hit him with a hammer. At numerous points, the psychiatrists pointed to these multiple head injuries as a cause for some of Daniel's developmental deficiencies.

			However, in Facebook posts made in the early 2010's, Elisabeth would wax poetic about how much she loved Daniel. Even after Travis left her in 2010, Elisabeth still made an effort to try and get her back into her life, but eventually gave up on Daniel herself.

	One of Elisabeth's nicknames for Daniel was, "Danny Boy", which he grew to detest and hate being called. Daniel also alleges that Elisabeth hated being called "mom" or "mother", and demanded that Daniel call her "mommy", otherwise she would get upset.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14kn6gg/surprising_revelations_about_daniels_mother/</ref> However, like many others things, it should be noted that Daniel is extremely delusional and his statements should not be taken at face value.		One of Elisabeth's nicknames for Daniel was, "Danny Boy", which he grew to detest and hate being called. Daniel also alleges that Elisabeth hated being called "mom" or "mother", and demanded that Daniel call her "mommy", otherwise she would get upset.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14kn6gg/surprising_revelations_about_daniels_mother/</ref> However, like many others things, it should be noted that Daniel is extremely delusional and his statements should not be taken at face value.

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	In 1990, Elisabeth enrolled in YPIA (Young Peoples Institute of Arts and Academics), where she graduated from in 1993.<ref name=":0">https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> From 1995 to 2004, Elisabeth enrolled in Antelope Valley College, graduating in Music and Performing Arts.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> Not long after enrolling in AVC, Elisabeth would meet [[Travis Larson]], who, not long after, would help conceive Daniel with, to which she would give birth on November 15th, 1998.[[File:Daniel's Mother Greiving.png\|thumb\|500x500px\|Daniel's mother grieving the deaths of Joyetta and Olivia.]]		In 1990, Elisabeth enrolled in YPIA (Young Peoples Institute of Arts and Academics), where she graduated from in 1993.<ref name=":0">https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> From 1995 to 2004, Elisabeth enrolled in Antelope Valley College, graduating in Music and Performing Arts.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> Not long after enrolling in AVC, Elisabeth would meet [[Travis Larson]], who, not long after, would help conceive Daniel with, to which she would give birth on November 15th, 1998.[[File:Daniel's Mother Greiving.png\|thumb\|500x500px\|Daniel's mother grieving the deaths of Joyetta and Olivia.]]
	Later on, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She gave birth to Daniel's only siblings, [[Family\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]] on March 27, 2001. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>		Later on, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She gave birth to Daniel's only biological siblings, [[Family\|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]], on March 27, 2001. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>

	Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs\|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>		Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs\|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>