Grace VanderWaal - Revision history

AllHailJonas: /* 2025 TikTok Comments */

2026-06-21T19:11:36Z

2025 TikTok Comments

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	{{Quote\|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}		{{Quote\|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}

			On January 6, 2026, through another post she made, a user commented;

			{{Quote\|betwee daniel larson and now this, girl you deserve compensation for everything you've been through}}

			Grace replied, further adding to the notion that Daniel is part of the reason why she is struggling;

			{{Quote\|I’m definitely at a breaking point!}}

	In recent months, Grace has opened up about her own struggles with mental health issues and her time in rehabilitation. The death of her mother and continued comments about Daniel contributed to her declining mental health and also led to the cancellation of her upcoming Europe tour. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/grace-vanderwaal-is-struggling-and-we-want-her-to-be-okay</ref>		In recent months, Grace has opened up about her own struggles with mental health issues and her time in rehabilitation. The death of her mother and continued comments about Daniel contributed to her declining mental health and also led to the cancellation of her upcoming Europe tour. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/grace-vanderwaal-is-struggling-and-we-want-her-to-be-okay</ref>

AllHailJonas: /* Second TikTok Comment */

2026-05-18T05:14:29Z

Second TikTok Comment

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	{{Contact\|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.\|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote\|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success\|4=Grace's first ~~(and probably only)~~ official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox\|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg\|imageDesc=Photo example on how Daniel sees Grace.\|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal\|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel\|DOB=January 15, 2004\|Nationality=American\|Race=White\|Gender=Female\|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)\|Arcs=}}		{{Contact\|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.\|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote\|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success\|4=Grace's first official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox\|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg\|imageDesc=Photo example on how Daniel sees Grace.\|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal\|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel\|DOB=January 15, 2004\|Nationality=American\|Race=White\|Gender=Female\|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)\|Arcs=}}

	'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since his late teens. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref>		'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since his late teens. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref>
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	Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.		Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.

	=== ~~Second~~ TikTok ~~Comment~~ ===		=== 2025 TikTok Comments ===
	On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote\|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote\|I do not like this reference}}Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.		On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote\|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote\|I do not like this reference}}
			Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before. The same day on another post, a comment asked,
			{{Quote\|are we aware of daniel larson}}


			She bluntly replied, <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@user4602508883137/video/7575810850477427998</ref>

			{{Quote\|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}

			In recent months, Grace has opened up about her own struggles with mental health issues and her time in rehabilitation. The death of her mother and continued comments about Daniel contributed to her declining mental health and also led to the cancellation of her upcoming Europe tour. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/grace-vanderwaal-is-struggling-and-we-want-her-to-be-okay</ref>

	However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''		However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''

AllHailJonas at 16:46, 7 May 2026

2026-05-07T16:46:52Z

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	As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace showed no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of trolls impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in graphic and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content such as [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. While his Graceposting had eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween.		As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace showed no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of trolls impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in graphic and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content such as [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. While his Graceposting had eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween.

	Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. ~~However, considering th~~		Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to.

	== Grace and [[Pedophilia]] ==		== Grace and [[Pedophilia]] ==
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	== Contact ==		== Contact ==
	[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel\|545x545px]]		[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel\|545x545px]]
	Grace is aware of Daniel ~~and~~ has rarely publicly acknowledged him despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.		While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has very rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.

	=== Jakob VanderWaal ===		=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
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	In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals. Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.		In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals. Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.

	The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults,''''' ~~seemingly~~ desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.		The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults'''''—seemingly desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.

	Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>		Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>
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	Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.		Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.

	=== ~~2025~~ TikTok ~~Comments~~ ===		=== Second TikTok Comment ===
	On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote\|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote\|I do not like this reference}}		On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote\|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote\|I do not like this reference}}Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.
	Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.

	~~In another post, a user asked, <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@user4602508883137/video/7575810850477427998</ref>~~
	~~{{Quote\|are we aware of daniel larson}}~~

	~~She replied;~~

	~~{{Quote\|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}~~
	However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''		However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''


	<nowiki></nowiki>Matan Even pls interview Grace so we get her side of the story about Daniel

	== References ==		== References ==

AllHailJonas: /* Contact */

2026-05-01T04:25:19Z

Contact

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	[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel\|545x545px]]		[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel\|545x545px]]
	~~While~~ Grace is aware of Daniel~~'s existence, she~~ has ~~very~~ rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.		Grace is aware of Daniel and has rarely publicly acknowledged him despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.

	=== Jakob VanderWaal ===		=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
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	In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals. Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.		In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals. Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.

	The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults'''''~~—seemingly~~ desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.		The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults,''''' seemingly desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.

	Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>		Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>

Keiksb at 21:53, 5 March 2026

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	{{Quote\|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}		{{Quote\|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}
	However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''		However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''


			<nowiki></nowiki>Matan Even pls interview Grace so we get her side of the story about Daniel

	== References ==		== References ==

AllHailJonas: ANOTHER GRACE COMMENT! This one is accessible.

2026-03-05T03:39:48Z

ANOTHER GRACE COMMENT! This one is accessible.

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	Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.		Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.

	=== ~~Second~~ TikTok ~~Comment~~ ===		=== 2025 TikTok Comments ===
	On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote\|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote\|I do not like this reference}}Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.		On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote\|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote\|I do not like this reference}}
			Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.

			In another post, a user asked, <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@user4602508883137/video/7575810850477427998</ref>
			{{Quote\|are we aware of daniel larson}}

			She replied;

			{{Quote\|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}
	However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''		However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''

AllHailJonas: /* Notable Delusions */

2026-02-18T19:15:59Z

Notable Delusions

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	After this live-stream, Daniel posted to his TikTok admitting that Grace was one of the minors he had supposedly sexted. Daniel admitted, "I have sexted minors, 13 years old, well I'm gonna be honest, 12 years old".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fgywu/13_years_old_well_im_gonna_be_honest_12_years_old/</ref> The video ends with Daniel saying that he planned to move on by not doing things such as this anymore and putting in the work to become a better person for her, especially after Grace's 'death.'		After this live-stream, Daniel posted to his TikTok admitting that Grace was one of the minors he had supposedly sexted. Daniel admitted, "I have sexted minors, 13 years old, well I'm gonna be honest, 12 years old".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fgywu/13_years_old_well_im_gonna_be_honest_12_years_old/</ref> The video ends with Daniel saying that he planned to move on by not doing things such as this anymore and putting in the work to become a better person for her, especially after Grace's 'death.'

	~~{{#evt:service=archiveorg\|id=https://archive.org/details/Daniel_Larson_Pedo_Admission}}~~

	While it may have appeared that Daniel's belief in Grace’s supposed death prompted a moment of repentance, this was short-lived. Upon realizing that Grace was still alive, he quickly reverted to his usual obsessive behavior, once again posting about her regularly and continuing to sext with individuals he believed to be her.		While it may have appeared that Daniel's belief in Grace’s supposed death prompted a moment of repentance, this was short-lived. Upon realizing that Grace was still alive, he quickly reverted to his usual obsessive behavior, once again posting about her regularly and continuing to sext with individuals he believed to be her.
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	As the night progressed, Daniel remained awake, continuing his journey as the sun began to rise. During the walk, he made increasingly erratic statements and even broke into karaoke. Ultimately, the hike ended with Daniel returning to Denver, either due to exhaustion or after realizing that the "Grace" he had been communicating with was, in fact, a troll.		As the night progressed, Daniel remained awake, continuing his journey as the sun began to rise. During the walk, he made increasingly erratic statements and even broke into karaoke. Ultimately, the hike ended with Daniel returning to Denver, either due to exhaustion or after realizing that the "Grace" he had been communicating with was, in fact, a troll.
	[[File:PregnantGrace.png\|thumb\|319x319px\|Grace "pregnant" with Jacob's baby.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15t743z/jacob_sartorius_got_grace_pregnant/</ref>]]
			=== Travel Arc/New York ===
			In March 2023, during the Travel Arc, Daniel announced that he planned to travel to New York City to meet Grace and her mother, Tina, in person. He stated that his visit was also motivated by personal reasons concerning Grace. Tina was aware of his intentions and warned Daniel that he could be arrested if he found Grace. She further cautioned his followers that contributing to his Cash App, if intended to help him reach Grace, could be considered aiding in a criminal act and that such actions treated Grace's safety lightly. Despite these warnings, Daniel traveled to New York on April 3, 2023, and remained there for nearly seven weeks. At one point, he came within a few blocks of Grace; however, online trolls impersonating her redirected him to another location, potentially preventing a serious incident. He returned to Colorado on May 20, 2023, without encountering Grace in person. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/13neqwq/grace_was_in_nyc/</ref> [[File:PregnantGrace.png\|thumb\|319x319px\|Grace "pregnant" with Jacob's baby.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15t743z/jacob_sartorius_got_grace_pregnant/</ref>]]

	=== The Grace and Jacob Sartorius Love Affair ===		=== The Grace and Jacob Sartorius Love Affair ===

AllHailJonas at 19:04, 18 February 2026

2026-02-18T19:04:05Z

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	{{Contact\|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.\|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote\|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success\|4=Grace's first (and probably only) official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox\|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg\|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal\|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel\|DOB=January 15, 2004\|Nationality=American\|Race=White\|Gender=Female\|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)\|Arcs=}}		{{Contact\|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.\|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote\|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success\|4=Grace's first (and probably only) official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox\|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg\|imageDesc=Photo example on how Daniel sees Grace.\|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal\|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel\|DOB=January 15, 2004\|Nationality=American\|Race=White\|Gender=Female\|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)\|Arcs=}}

	'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since his late teens. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref>		'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since his late teens. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref>

AllHailJonas: /* Contact with Grace or her family */

2026-02-16T04:02:13Z

Contact with Grace or her family

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	However, the most recent time Daniel mentioned Grace was in a letter in March 2025, stating she was involved in the case, and has not mentioned her since.		However, the most recent time Daniel mentioned Grace was in a letter in March 2025, stating she was involved in the case, and has not mentioned her since.

	== Contact ~~with Grace or her family~~ ==		== Contact ==
	[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel\|545x545px]]		[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel\|545x545px]]
	While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has very rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.		While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has very rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.

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	</gallery>Daniel has expressed an intense fixation on Grace and has frequently directed obsessive behavior toward her, similar to his focus on other individuals, including [[Bob Proctor\|Bob]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram were often inundated with frequent comments from Daniel, creating the impression of a real-time interaction with her. Daniel repeatedly mentioned and tagged her in his own TikTok videos, causing her notifications to be dominated by his messages. This behavior continued across nearly all of his TikTok accounts and ultimately led to the termination of one account for repeated harassment. Shortly after, Grace added filters to her TikTok comments to block terms such as "Daniel Larson," "Mr. President," and "Danderson" to prevent further interaction. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>		</gallery>Daniel has expressed an intense fixation on Grace and has frequently directed obsessive behavior toward her, similar to his focus on other individuals, including [[Bob Proctor\|Bob]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram were often inundated with frequent comments from Daniel, creating the impression of a real-time interaction with her. Daniel repeatedly mentioned and tagged her in his own TikTok videos, causing her notifications to be dominated by his messages. This behavior continued across nearly all of his TikTok accounts and ultimately led to the termination of one account for repeated harassment. Shortly after, Grace added filters to her TikTok comments to block terms such as "Daniel Larson," "Mr. President," and "Danderson" to prevent further interaction. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>

	As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace ~~shows~~ no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of ~~individuals~~ impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in ~~egregious~~ and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content ~~like~~ [[The Toothbrush Incident]].		As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace showed no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of trolls impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in graphic and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content such as [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. While his Graceposting had eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween.

	Even during the [[Jail Arc]]'','' Daniel has mentioned Grace in phone conversations with Clark, seemingly believing that she might bail him out. While his Graceposting has eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. He still thinks about Grace while [[Second Jail Arc\|incarcerated for federal crimes]], however the most recent time he mentioned her was in a letter in March 2025, saying that she was involved in the case. He has not mentioned her since.		Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. However, considering th

	Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to.

	== Grace and [[Pedophilia]] ==		== Grace and [[Pedophilia]] ==
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	During one of his delusional episodes, Daniel, seemingly without access to his phone, posted on Likee, a short video ~~creating~~ platform he used while banned from TikTok, in despair and asking his followers to retrieve information from the 'VanderWaal Team'.		During one of his earliest delusional episodes, Daniel, seemingly without access to his phone, posted on Likee, a short-video platform he used while banned from TikTok, in despair and asking his followers to retrieve information from the 'VanderWaal Team'.

	Daniel appeared to believe that an unspecified accident had occurred and that the VanderWaal family, whom he was convinced had been in contact with him, was withholding information about Grace. Throughout the video, he hit his head and made threats against his own life. This incident was particularly notable as it marked the first time Daniel had a meltdown online.

	~~Despite~~ his ~~claims,~~ he did not act on ~~his~~ threats, ~~and once~~ the episode ~~subsided, he returned to his usual behavior~~. Daniel ~~said~~ that if he did not get ~~into~~ contact with the VanderWaal family, he would end up homeless. ~~Though~~ relatively minor at the time, ~~this episode~~ foreshadowed more severe delusional behavior in the future.		Daniel appeared to believe that an unspecified accident had occurred and that the VanderWaal family, whom he was convinced had been in contact with him, was withholding information about Grace. Throughout the video, he hit his head and made threats against his own life. While he did not act on these threats, the episode marked the first notable instance of a meltdown. Daniel claimed that if he did not get in contact with the VanderWaal family, he would end up homeless. Although relatively minor at the time, the incident foreshadowed more severe delusional behavior in the future.

	Afterwards, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of Grace, and her father Dave. In this video, he expressed the belief that Grace had both committed suicide and suffered a heart attack simultaneously. Before Daniel addressed their deaths, he became emotional, crying and hysterically apologizing for sexting minors and sending pictures of his genitals to individuals he believed to be Grace. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref>		Afterwards, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of Grace, and her father Dave. In this video, he expressed the belief that Grace had both committed suicide and suffered a heart attack simultaneously. Before Daniel addressed their deaths, he became emotional, crying and hysterically apologizing for sexting minors and sending pictures of his genitals to individuals he believed to be Grace. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref>
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	''Main Article: [https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/Jacob_Sartorius#Delusions Jacob Sartorius#Delusions]''		''Main Article: [https://wiki.lolcow.city/daniel-larson/Jacob_Sartorius#Delusions Jacob Sartorius#Delusions]''

	[[July 24th Freak-out\|On July ~~24th~~]], 2023, Daniel became convinced that Grace, whom he believed had been in a relationship with him until this point, had broken up with him as things were, "..moving too slow". Shortly after, he became fixated on the idea that she had started dating American social media personality and singer [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon believe that Jacob had impregnated Grace, and ordered her assassination by "[[Tyrone]]", all at the same time. Daniel's narrative regarding Jacob rapidly changed, at one point claiming that Jacob was harassing him, and later insisted that he was targeting Grace instead.		[[July 24th Freak-out\|On July 24,]] 2023, Daniel became convinced that Grace, whom he believed had been in a relationship with him until this point, had broken up with him as things were, "..moving too slow". Shortly after, he became fixated on the idea that she had started dating American social media personality and singer [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon believe that Jacob had impregnated Grace, and ordered her assassination by "[[Tyrone]]", all at the same time. Daniel's narrative regarding Jacob rapidly changed, at one point claiming that Jacob was harassing him, and later insisted that he was targeting Grace instead.

	This eventually culminated into Daniel throwing his dinner into a river because of his anger at Grace dating Jacob instead of him.		This eventually culminated into Daniel throwing his dinner into a river because of his anger at Grace dating Jacob instead of him.
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	On August 29, 2023, an already on-edge Daniel, who had already spent a night on the streets, was being contacted by a troll pretending to be Grace, trying to provoke him by making threats towards him, such as that "Tyrone would butt-fuck him until he dies", calling him a pedophile, and telling him to have sex with Bob. Daniel became upset on his Community Tab page, making threats and attempting to text 9-1-1 a screenshot of his conversation. However, Daniel uploaded and deleted a YouTube short, calling her the [[Self Defense Word\|N-word]], and saying how he will always hate her. Later, Daniel went live on YouTube in a full-blown meltdown, repeatedly punching himself in the head, slamming his head into a wall, and wishing death upon Grace.		On August 29, 2023, an already on-edge Daniel, who had already spent a night on the streets, was being contacted by a troll pretending to be Grace, trying to provoke him by making threats towards him, such as that "Tyrone would butt-fuck him until he dies", calling him a pedophile, and telling him to have sex with Bob. Daniel became upset on his Community Tab page, making threats and attempting to text 9-1-1 a screenshot of his conversation. However, Daniel uploaded and deleted a YouTube short, calling her the [[Self Defense Word\|N-word]], and saying how he will always hate her. Later, Daniel went live on YouTube in a full-blown meltdown, repeatedly punching himself in the head, slamming his head into a wall, and wishing death upon Grace.

			== Delusions while Incarcerated ==
			Daniel's obsession with Grace persisted even while incarcerated, as evidenced by phone calls with Clark and Lil Sippy.

			During the first Jail Arc, Daniel admitted that he continued to think about Grace to calm himself, with delusions that she was shocked by the news, that she and Tina might bail him out, and that he was still on track to get an apartment with her.

			When Daniel was arrested for federal crimes, his delusions about Grace showed no sign of stopping. During the first call of the Second Jail Arc, he mentioned messages from Tina scolding him to stop talking about her, but he also maintained the delusion that he was engaged to Grace and his desire to reach out to her. In the next call, Clark confronted him, emphasizing that Grace did not want any contact with him, considered him a creep, and that Tina was only telling him to back off while calling out his delusions and inappropriate behavior. In the next conversation, Daniel appeared to accept that Grace did not want contact. However, months later, he called Clark again, maintaining the delusion that he would have a wedding with Grace upon his release, demonstrating that repeated attempts to confront him with reality are never successful.

			During his time in federal prison, Daniel also claimed, among other delusions, that fellow inmates and correctional officers were teasing him with jokes about Grace, that Bob was upset because Grace was not helping him, and that her father, Dave, approved of him dating her. Lil Sippy, who got in contact with Daniel during his incarceration, enabled and reinforced his delusions. He told Daniel that Grace was in Miami Beach with a fictional dubstep artist wearing a shirt that said "Free Daniel Larson," sent him numerous photos of Grace through prison mail, and even sent him a Grace VanderWaal songbook, while simultaneously telling him to stop dwelling on Tina and Grace. Daniel also developed the delusion that Grace was cheating on him with Clark.

			However, the most recent time Daniel mentioned Grace was in a letter in March 2025, stating she was involved in the case, and has not mentioned her since.

	== Contact with Grace or her family ==		== Contact with Grace or her family ==