Longmont Humane Society Employee AMA - Revision history

FuckassBob at 18:02, 17 March 2025

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	~~{{NotInvolved}}~~[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo attached to the post. ]]		[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo attached to the post. ]]
	On July 11th, 2023, in the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, the animal shelter Daniel adopted Zola from, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit.		On July 11th, 2023, in the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, the animal shelter Daniel adopted Zola from, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit.

imported>KanamoriKamper at 04:20, 9 November 2024

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	On July 11th, 2023, in the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, the animal shelter Daniel adopted Zola from, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit.		On July 11th, 2023, in the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, the animal shelter Daniel adopted Zola from, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit.

	In ~~this posts~~, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, referencing several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services ~~caused~~ the ~~establishment to be swatted and~~ checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.		In their post, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, referencing several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services, and swatting attempts that resulted in the building being checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.

	Below is their original post.		Below is their original post.

imported>KanamoriKamper at 04:18, 9 November 2024

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	[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo attached to the post. ]]		{{NotInvolved}}[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo attached to the post. ]]
	On July 11th, 2023, in the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, the animal shelter Daniel adopted Zola from, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit.		On July 11th, 2023, in the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, the animal shelter Daniel adopted Zola from, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit.

imported>KanamoriKamper at 04:17, 9 November 2024

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	[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo attached to the post. ]]		[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo attached to the post. ]]
	On July 11th, 2023, ~~during~~ the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, ~~under~~ the ~~username u/LongmontPaws~~, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit. In ~~their~~ posts, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, as several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services caused the establishment to be swatted and checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.		On July 11th, 2023, in the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, the animal shelter Daniel adopted Zola from, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit.

			In this posts, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, referencing several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services caused the establishment to be swatted and checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.

	Below is their original post.		Below is their original post.

imported>KanamoriKamper at 19:24, 8 November 2024

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	[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo ~~that the employee~~ attached to ~~their~~ post. ]]		[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo attached to the post. ]]
	On July 11th, 2023, during the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, under the username u/LongmontPaws, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit. In their posts, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, as several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services caused the establishment to be swatted and checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.		On July 11th, 2023, during the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, under the username u/LongmontPaws, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit. In their posts, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, as several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services caused the establishment to be swatted and checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.

imported>KanamoriKamper at 21:32, 27 August 2024

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	== External Links ==		== External Links ==
	{{DogArc}}		{{Homeless Era}}{{DogArc}}

imported>KanamoriKamper: This page is pretty much done i think

2024-08-27T21:13:01Z

This page is pretty much done i think

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 {{Green|u/Longmontpaws}}: I think in this case, it was a perfect storm of bad circumstances. There's a staffing shortage and staff retention issue in many industries right now, and charities are no exception. LHS is a little short-staffed, and the staff they do have are relatively green due to all the turnover. The procedure isn't the best, because as a small shelter in a relatively wealthy area, the honors system hadn't dramatically failed like this before. Finally, imagine the personality type drawn to charity work. If you're somebody with a sympathetic, charitable view of other people, you're more likely to look at an unwashed weirdo and feel pity more than revulsion. When you're somebody who helps people for a living, you're unfortunately vulnerable to emotional manipulation, by the nature of these things. I include myself in these personality-based generalizations, for the record hahaha.
 == External Links ==
 {{DogArc}}

imported>KanamoriKamper: /* AMA */

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AMA

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	=== Question 3 ===		=== Question 3 ===
			{{Red\|u/_Ruzo_}}: I will say this; I do not entirely blame you guys, but I do blame you a tad bit. It may be cruel, but a simple look at Daniel should tell you he is incapable of taking care of a dog. He smells like shit, has grime under his fingernails, has one eye basically bulging out. But at the same time, if he did lie on his paperwork, who are you guys to doubt him entirely?

			Could the situation have been avoided? Yes. Is Daniel also a slippery, manipulative rat? Yes.

			{{Green\|u/Longmontpaws}}: I think in this case, it was a perfect storm of bad circumstances. There's a staffing shortage and staff retention issue in many industries right now, and charities are no exception. LHS is a little short-staffed, and the staff they do have are relatively green due to all the turnover. The procedure isn't the best, because as a small shelter in a relatively wealthy area, the honors system hadn't dramatically failed like this before. Finally, imagine the personality type drawn to charity work. If you're somebody with a sympathetic, charitable view of other people, you're more likely to look at an unwashed weirdo and feel pity more than revulsion. When you're somebody who helps people for a living, you're unfortunately vulnerable to emotional manipulation, by the nature of these things. I include myself in these personality-based generalizations, for the record hahaha.

	== External Links ==		== External Links ==
	{{DogArc}}		{{DogArc}}

imported>KanamoriKamper: Adding more stuff

2024-08-27T20:31:38Z

Adding more stuff

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	[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo that the employee attached to their post. ]]		[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png\|thumb\|318x318px\|Photo that the employee attached to their post. ]]
	On July 11th, 2023, during the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit. In their posts, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, as several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services caused the establishment to be swatted and checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.		On July 11th, 2023, during the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society, under the username u/LongmontPaws, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit. In their posts, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, as several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services caused the establishment to be swatted and checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.

	Below is their original post.		Below is their original post.
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	I can assure you that the procedure is now under serious review. Also, the fact that Larson lied on his adoption form could potentially be grounds to dissolve the contract under which Zola was adopted to him.		I can assure you that the procedure is now under serious review. Also, the fact that Larson lied on his adoption form could potentially be grounds to dissolve the contract under which Zola was adopted to him.

			=== Question 2 ===
			{{Red\|u/ImOnlyGayOnDrugs}}: Is ID required to adopt an animal? Did Daniel have an ID?

			{{Green\|u/Longmontpaws}}: Yes. An ID is required even if you're just visiting an animal.

			=== Question 3 ===

	== External Links ==		== External Links ==
	{{DogArc}}		{{DogArc}}

imported>KanamoriKamper: Creating a page for this as it deserves to be archived

2024-08-27T20:27:32Z

Creating a page for this as it deserves to be archived

New page

[[File:LongmontWorkerPhoto.png|thumb|318x318px|Photo that the employee attached to their post. ]]
On July 11th, 2023, during the wake of the [[Dog Arc]], a worker from the Longmont Humane Society [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/i_care_for_animals_at_longmont_humane_society/ posted] onto the r/daniellarson subreddit. In their posts, they asked for the members of the subreddit to stop harassing the Humane Society, as several '''''alleged''''' false calls to emergency services caused the establishment to be swatted and checked for bombs. Additionally, they would answer several questions from subreddit members regarding Daniel's adoption of Zola, and various other topics.

Below is their original post.

= I care for animals at Longmont Humane Society. =
'''Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. I am not speaking on behalf of LHS in any capacity; I am only giving my perspective on the situation.'''

I will not specify whether I am a volunteer or a staff member, but as proof that I work at the facility, here's a photo of a non-public room (a chemical closet where empty carriers are cleaned and stored.) For the safety of my friends and family, I will not be sharing any information about myself beyond that.

Let me start by dispelling some rumors. At LHS, the adoption process involves multiple people. There's no single individual responsible for Zola/Music being adopted to Larson. Various individuals involved did find Larson creepy (he smelled bad, for the record), but had no reason to doubt his credentials. Plenty of superficially weird people pass through the shelter and turn out to be wonderful pet owners and/or volunteers. The charity has programs for housing animals belonging to homeless families, and it is somewhat common for a person to lose custody of their pet(s) upon their arrest and recover them after making bail. Because of this, we're used to encountering "strange" people, and are somewhat desensitized to it. In spite of all this, the team was still skeptical of Larson, and his adoption process ''did'' last longer than most because of these concerns. They were aware that he is mentally ill, but that was not enough of a basis to deny him an adoption. LHS is a small, local charity. They don't have the staffing, time, or resources to give every single prospective adoptee a background check, though I'm confident that the adoption process will change in some capacity following this incident.

The volunteers and staff at LHS were devastated to find out who Larson really was. I really can't overstate how much this news upset everyone. This sort of thing is an absolute worst-case scenario for us. Zola was ''very'' well liked at LHS by staff, volunteers, and visitors. I'm appalled at the way the team has been treated online. These people work at the shelter because they truly love animals, and they do so for low pay or no pay at all in the case of volunteers. They come in at the crack of dawn to clean up literal feces because they want to help homeless animals. Now, on top of that, they have to deal with first responders constantly showing up because of swatting attempts or false bomb threats. Is this really the people whose time you want to be wasting? Firefighters and folks who take care of homeless animals?

I understand being upset that Zola was allowed to fall into the hands of a person like Larson. However, you do not need to harass the team at LHS to communicate the severity of this mistake. They know, and are taking serious steps to ensure that mistakes like this do not happen again, because they are personally invested in the long-term happiness of companion animals. Larson is now permanently banned from adopting animals from LHS, and the local animal control unit is aware of the situation. Leadership is currently deciding on the security measures necessary moving forward.

Feel free to ask any questions.

== AMA ==

=== Question 1 ===
{{Red|[Deleted]}}: ''Comment deleted by user''

{{Green|u/Longmontpaws}}: No, no background checks. There have been issues in the past with people lying about their living circumstances, but with more minor things (like whether their landlord allowed the specific dog breed, or the amount of space in the home) and the result was only that the dog was eventually returned when the adoptee belatedly realized that you can't accommodate a hundred-pound dog in a studio apartment. As far as I know, no one has yet had the audacity to just straight-up lie about having a home when they're homeless.

Additionally, if it turns out that a "stray" brought to the shelter is owned and doesn't show any physiological signs of mistreatment or neglect, the animal must be returned to the owner after the recovery fee is paid. That unfortunately includes cases where the owner is homeless, living in their car, senile, etc. Remember that in the United States, companion animals are chattel. An animal doesn't legally belong to the shelter until they've been living there for a certain amount of time. When an animal finishes that wait period, they become "emancipated" and are then in the shelter's custody.

I can assure you that the procedure is now under serious review. Also, the fact that Larson lied on his adoption form could potentially be grounds to dissolve the contract under which Zola was adopted to him.

== External Links ==
{{DogArc}}