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FuckassBob: /* Personal life */

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Personal life

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	Nancy Louise Shimer was born on May 11, 1943.		Nancy Louise Shimer was born on May 11, 1943.

	According to [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], Nancy worked in social services, with her job requiring her to relocate infants put up for adoption to foster homes. During one of these relocations, Nancy stumbled upon [[Elisabeth Shimer\|Elisabeth]] while she was still an infant, to which she then adopted.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> It is unknown what relationship Elisabeth had with Nancy's biological children, much less what Nancy's relationship with her husband was, especially given their eventual divorce.<ref>https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K1QG-71Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GVDZ-KV9</ref> However, it can be assumed that it was less than positive. Following her adoption of Elisabeth, she moved to from Michigan to California, where she took care of Elisabeth and her other children.		According to [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], Nancy worked in social services, with her job requiring her to relocate infants put up for adoption to foster homes. During one of these relocations, Nancy stumbled upon [[Elisabeth Shimer\|Elisabeth]] while she was still an infant, to which she then adopted.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref>

	When [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], her grandson, was approximately 11 years old, he was removed from his mother’s care due to him suffering from alleged abuse and neglect.<ref>[[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report]]</ref> After Daniel was taken from her daughter’s care, a custody battle involving Elisabeth, Travis, and Nancy began. Information on this is sparse, but according to Daniel, Nancy’s main argument for him to not be in his father’s care was because he “didn’t even know his father.”<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> One of the other reasons stated for Nancy wanting custody of Daniel was due to fear of him ending up in a foster home, which he had been in many beforehand. Regardless of the validity of the former statement, this raises many questions about what Daniel and his father's relationship was like before his parents broke things off. It is possible that Nancy was a case manager for Daniel, or at least took on that role during Daniel's stay within his foster homes and under her guardianship.		When [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], her grandson, was approximately 11 years old, he was removed from his mother’s care due to him suffering from alleged abuse and neglect.<ref>[[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report]]</ref> After Daniel was taken from her daughter’s care, a custody battle involving Elisabeth, Travis, and Nancy began. Information on this is sparse, but according to Daniel, Nancy’s main argument for him to not be in his father’s care was because he “didn’t even know his father.”<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> One of the other reasons stated for Nancy wanting custody of Daniel was due to fear of him ending up in a foster home, which he had been in many beforehand. Regardless of the validity of the former statement, this raises many questions about what Daniel and his father's relationship was like before his parents broke things off. It is possible that Nancy was a case manager for Daniel, or at least took on that role during Daniel's stay within his foster homes and under her guardianship.

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Bob Proctor

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	===Bob Proctor===		===Bob Proctor===
	It was widely speculated that Nancy Shimer and Bob Proctor were in a long-term relationship before Bob met Daniel through the Tennyson Center Reading Buddies program. However, Daniel stated that Bob and Nancy were both in a friendship around the time Bob had met Daniel. ~~It is often stated without a source that~~ Nancy gave Bob access to a trust fund of Daniel after she passed~~; however, this is [[Daniel Larson Wiki:Common Misconceptions\|most likely false]]~~.		It was widely speculated that Nancy Shimer and Bob Proctor were in a long-term relationship before Bob met Daniel through the Tennyson Center Reading Buddies program. However, Daniel stated that Bob and Nancy were both in a friendship around the time Bob had met Daniel. Nancy gave Bob access to a trust fund of Daniel after she passed.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

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	'''Nancy Louise Shimer''' (pronounced: [~~shy~~-mer], May 11, 1943 – October 24, 2018) was the maternal grandmother and legal guardian of [[Daniel Larson]], adoptive mother of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], and ex-mother-in-law of [[Travis Larson]].		'''Nancy Louise Shimer''' (pronounced: [SHY-mer], May 11, 1943 – October 24, 2018) was the maternal grandmother and legal guardian of [[Daniel Larson]], adoptive mother of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], and ex-mother-in-law of [[Travis Larson]].

	Nancy was one of the most important figures in ~~Daniels~~ life. She ~~moved~~ from ~~her home in~~ [[California]] to Colorado to ~~accompany~~ Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, ~~taking~~ guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his ~~mothers~~ care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite ~~kinder~~ treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits~~, and allegedly,~~ Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he ~~didn’t~~ get his way.		Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniel's life. She relocated from [[California]] to Colorado in order to support Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, and took guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mother's care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite her kind treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits. It has been alleged that Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he did not get his way.

	Nancy passed away on October 24, 2018 at 75 years ~~of age, of cancer~~.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ_iYN19sY</ref> Even after being informed of her death, Daniel did not even bother to see his grandmother on her death bed. It is ~~assumed~~ that Daniel either did not attend her funeral, or was not invited.		Nancy passed away from cancer on October 24, 2018, at the age of 75 years.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ_iYN19sY</ref> Even after being informed of her death, Daniel did not even bother to see his grandmother on her death bed. It is believed that Daniel either did not attend her funeral or was not invited.

	After her death, Daniel would repeatedly mock Nancy's memory by stating that his grandmother put a curse on her, saying that his autism caused her to die, and [[Homeless Era\|being]] [[Pedophilia\|everything]] [[December 10th Incident\|Nancy]] [[November 6th Arrest\|did]] [[Second Jail Arc\|not]] [[Bodega Incident\|want]] [[Bob Proctor\|him]] [[Dine and dashes\|to]] [[Daniel's Criminal History\|be]].		After her death, Daniel would repeatedly mock Nancy's memory by stating that his grandmother put a curse on her, saying that his autism caused her to die, and [[Homeless Era\|being]] [[Pedophilia\|everything]] [[December 10th Incident\|Nancy]] [[November 6th Arrest\|did]] [[Second Jail Arc\|not]] [[Bodega Incident\|want]] [[Bob Proctor\|him]] [[Dine and dashes\|to]] [[Daniel's Criminal History\|be]].
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	== Biography==		== Biography==

	===~~Early~~ life===		===Personal life===
	~~[[File:YoungNancy.jpg\|thumb\|255x255px\|A picture of Nancy at an unknown age.\|left]]~~		Nancy Louise Shimer was born on May 11, 1943.
	Nancy ~~Jean~~ Shimer was born in Michigan to parents Ramsa Sarah Kallie (October 25, 1910 – August 2, 1976), an elementary school teacher, and Saleem "Sam" Essa Kiswiney (June 13, 1909 – January 10, 1983), a grocery store manager and accountant.<ref>https://www.familysearch.org/tree/sources/viewedit/QY1P-PP6</ref><ref>https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press-obituary-for-sam-kisw/150753169/</ref> Her father served in World War II, and strangely, was noted to have witnessed the murder of a man at the hands of an amputee driving an automobile.<ref>https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press/150752917/</ref> Nancy was the youngest of 3 children. She had two siblings, [[Family#Carol McGuire\|Carol McGuire]], ~~and [[Family#David Kiswiney\|David Kiswiney]]~~.

	~~During her teenage years~~, Nancy ~~attended Grosse Pointe High School~~. ~~At age 17~~, she was ~~placed onto her school's honor roll~~.<ref>~~https://digitize.gp.lib.mi.us/history/newspapers/grossePointeNews/year_ranges/1960s/1964/pdf/1964-07-23.pdf~~</ref> ~~After high school~~, ~~she attended Michigan State University, which she graduated from in 1969~~ with ~~a Bachelors Degree in arts~~, ~~and a minor in Humanities~~.<ref>https://~~projects~~.~~kora~~.~~matrix.msu.edu~~/~~files~~/~~162~~-~~565~~-~~981/S201_1969.pdf~~</ref> ~~In 1966~~, ~~Nancy~~ was ~~a bridesmaid for her sister's wedding. Nancy would go on to a plan a wedding in 1968.<ref>[[:File:NancyWeddingPlanner.png]]</ref>~~		According to [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], Nancy worked in social services, with her job requiring her to relocate infants put up for adoption to foster homes. During one of these relocations, Nancy stumbled upon [[Elisabeth Shimer\|Elisabeth]] while she was still an infant, to which she then adopted.<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> It is unknown what relationship Elisabeth had with Nancy's biological children, much less what Nancy's relationship with her husband was, especially given their eventual divorce.<ref>https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K1QG-71Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GVDZ-KV9</ref> However, it can be assumed that it was less than positive. Following her adoption of Elisabeth, she moved to from Michigan to California, where she took care of Elisabeth and her other children.
	~~[[File:NancyYearbookPhoto2~~.~~png\|thumb\|Nancy photo for~~ her ~~high schools' yearbook~~, ~~aged 17. \|247x247px]]Nancy married [[Family#Daniel William Shimer\|Daniel William Shimer]] (1943–2015), an electrical engineer, on November 28, 1970. According~~ to ~~a newspaper clipping~~, ~~they had their wedding reception at the Grosse Pointe Garden Center~~ and ~~Lending Library~~. ~~Afterward, they had two biological daughters, [[Family#Sarah and Rachel Shimer\|Sarah and Rachel]], and eventually one adopted daughter, [[Elisabeth Shimer\|Elisabeth Shimer.]]~~

	~~According to~~ [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], ~~Nancy worked in social services, with~~ her ~~job requiring her to relocate infants put up for adoption to foster homes. During one of these relocations~~, ~~Nancy stumbled upon Elisabeth while she~~ was ~~still an infant~~, to ~~which she then adopted~~.<ref>[[~~Spiddlekick Interview~~]]</ref> ~~It is unknown what relationship~~ Elisabeth ~~had with~~ Nancy~~'s biological children~~, ~~much less what Nancy's relationship with her husband~~ was~~, especially given their eventual divorce~~.<ref>~~https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K1QG-71Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GVDZ-KV9~~</ref> ~~However~~, ~~it can be assumed~~ that it was ~~less than positive~~.		When [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], her grandson, was approximately 11 years old, he was removed from his mother’s care due to him suffering from alleged abuse and neglect.<ref>[[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report]]</ref> After Daniel was taken from her daughter’s care, a custody battle involving Elisabeth, Travis, and Nancy began. Information on this is sparse, but according to Daniel, Nancy’s main argument for him to not be in his father’s care was because he “didn’t even know his father.”<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> One of the other reasons stated for Nancy wanting custody of Daniel was due to fear of him ending up in a foster home, which he had been in many beforehand. Regardless of the validity of the former statement, this raises many questions about what Daniel and his father's relationship was like before his parents broke things off. It is possible that Nancy was a case manager for Daniel, or at least took on that role during Daniel's stay within his foster homes and under her guardianship.

	~~Following her adoption of Elisabeth, she moved to from Michigan to California, where she took care of Elisabeth and her other children.~~		In the end, Nancy gained custody of Daniel, and eventually became Daniel's legal guardian. Afterward, Nancy would take him out of the Tennyson Center's housing program, and would be moved to just schooling. In December 2012, local Colorado news channel KWGN [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report\|reported]] on the Tennyson Center, featuring a 14-year-old Daniel and his grandmother. Nancy speaks on how Daniel was a very angry child before she gained custody of him, and was now on the path to improvement. Daniel continued to live with Nancy until her death in 2018.
	~~=== Later life, and adoption of Daniel ===~~
	~~[[File:MemorialCenterSchedule.png\|thumb\|244x244px\|Information on Daniel and Nancy's marriage ceremony. \|left]]~~
	Nancy and her husband eventually divorced on September 1, 2005. It is unclear if this was the date they truly divorced, though. There is also a record of them divorcing on January 30, 1984.<ref>https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/GVDZ-KV9/nancy-jean-kiswiney-1947-2019</ref> It is possible they remarried, but confirmation on this matter is inconclusive.

	When [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], her grandson, was approximately 11 years old, he was removed from his mother’s care due to him suffering from alleged abuse and neglect.<ref>[[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report]]</ref> After Daniel was taken from her daughter’s care, a custody battle involving Elisabeth, Travis, and Nancy began. Information on this is sparse, but according to Daniel, Nancy’s main argument for him to not be in his father’s care was because he, quote, “didn’t even know his father.”<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> One of the other reasons stated for Nancy wanting custody of Daniel was due to fear of him ending up in a foster home, which he had been in many beforehand. Regardless of the validity of the former statement, this raises many questions about what Daniel and his father's relationship was like before his parents broke things off. It is possible that Nancy was a case manager for Daniel, or at least took on that role during Daniel's stay within his foster homes and under her guardianship.

	In the end, Nancy gained custody of Daniel, and eventually became Daniel's legal guardian. Afterward, Nancy would take him out of the Tennyson ~~centers~~ housing program, and would be moved to just schooling. In December 2012, local Colorado news channel KWGN [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report\|reported]] on the Tennyson Center, featuring a 14-year-old Daniel and his grandmother. Nancy speaks on how Daniel was a very angry child before she gained custody of him, and was now on the path to improvement.

	Daniel ~~would continue~~ to live with Nancy ~~after this~~.

	==Death==		==Death==
	On October 24, 2018, Nancy ~~Shimer~~ passed away at the age of 75 due to complications from [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mantle-cell-lymphoma/symptoms-causes/syc-20584872 mantal cell lymphoma], a rare, aggressive form of cancer that impacts the lymphatic system.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/share/1GjcFQRNZf/?mibextid=wwXIfr</ref> While Nancy was passing away, Daniel was invited to the hospice center, where Nancy stayed in her last moments. Instead of seeing her, Daniel chose to attend a Special Olympics game he was participating in to show that he was a “fighter." It is unknown if this was due to him simply not wanting to go, or because he was not invited. In YouTube comments made by his mother, she mentions how Daniel had allegedly beaten his grandmother, even when she was on her deathbed. If true, this may have been a contributing factor if he was not invited to her funeral.		On October 24, 2018, Nancy passed away at the age of 75 due to complications from [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mantle-cell-lymphoma/symptoms-causes/syc-20584872 mantal cell lymphoma], a rare, aggressive form of cancer that impacts the lymphatic system.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/share/1GjcFQRNZf/?mibextid=wwXIfr</ref> While Nancy was passing away, Daniel was invited to the hospice center, where Nancy stayed in her last moments. Instead of seeing her, Daniel chose to attend a Special Olympics game he was participating in to show that he was a “fighter." It is unknown if this was due to him simply not wanting to go, or because he was not invited. In YouTube comments made by his mother, she mentions how Daniel had allegedly beaten his grandmother, even when she was on her deathbed. If true, this may have been a contributing factor if he was not invited to her funeral.

	It is unknown where Nancy's funeral service was held, and it is widely believed that she was cremated.		It is unknown where Nancy's funeral service was held, and it is widely believed that she was cremated.

FuckassBob at 14:07, 30 April 2026

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	'''Nancy Louise Shimer''' (pronounced: [shy-mer], ~~née '''Kiswiney;'''~~ May 11, 1943 – October 24, 2018) was the maternal grandmother and legal guardian of [[Daniel Larson]], adoptive mother of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], and ex-mother-in-law of [[Travis Larson]].		'''Nancy Louise Shimer''' (pronounced: [shy-mer], May 11, 1943 – October 24, 2018) was the maternal grandmother and legal guardian of [[Daniel Larson]], adoptive mother of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], and ex-mother-in-law of [[Travis Larson]].

	Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.		Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.

AllHailJonas at 23:33, 29 April 2026

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	Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.		Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.

	Nancy passed away on October 24, 2018 at 75 years of age, of cancer.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ_iYN19sY</ref> Even after being informed of her death, Daniel did not even bother to see his grandmother on her death bed~~. Her funeral service was held at the Mountain View Cemetery Tower Chapel in Piedmont Ave, Oakland~~. It is assumed that Daniel either did not attend, or was not invited.		Nancy passed away on October 24, 2018 at 75 years of age, of cancer.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ_iYN19sY</ref> Even after being informed of her death, Daniel did not even bother to see his grandmother on her death bed. It is assumed that Daniel either did not attend her funeral, or was not invited.

	After her death, Daniel would repeatedly mock Nancy's memory by stating that his grandmother put a curse on her, saying that his autism caused her to die, and [[Homeless Era\|being]] [[Pedophilia\|everything]] [[December 10th Incident\|Nancy]] [[November 6th Arrest\|did]] [[Second Jail Arc\|not]] [[Bodega Incident\|want]] [[Bob Proctor\|him]] [[Dine and dashes\|to]] [[Daniel's Criminal History\|be]].		After her death, Daniel would repeatedly mock Nancy's memory by stating that his grandmother put a curse on her, saying that his autism caused her to die, and [[Homeless Era\|being]] [[Pedophilia\|everything]] [[December 10th Incident\|Nancy]] [[November 6th Arrest\|did]] [[Second Jail Arc\|not]] [[Bodega Incident\|want]] [[Bob Proctor\|him]] [[Dine and dashes\|to]] [[Daniel's Criminal History\|be]].

FuckassBob at 14:14, 29 April 2026

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	{{Infobox\|infoboxHeader=Nancy Shimer\|image=Nancy shimer3.png\|imageDesc=Nancy, as seen in the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s Tennyson Center Video], 2012.\|name=Nancy Shimer\|Alignment=[[Family]]\|DOB=May 11, 1943 - October 24, 2018 (aged 75)\|Race=White\|Gender=Female\|Parents=Ramsa Sarah Kallie (Mother), Saleem Essa Kiswiney (Father)\|Siblings=Carol McGuire, David Kiswiney\|Arcs=Before Era}}		{{Infobox\|infoboxHeader=Nancy Shimer\|image=Nancy shimer3.png\|imageDesc=Nancy, as seen in the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s Tennyson Center Video], 2012.\|name=Nancy Shimer\|Alignment=[[Family]]\|DOB=May 11, 1943 - October 24, 2018 (aged 75)\|Race=White\|Gender=Female\|Parents=Ramsa Sarah Kallie (Mother), Saleem Essa Kiswiney (Father)\|Siblings=Carol McGuire, David Kiswiney\|Arcs=Before Era}}

	'''Nancy Louise Shimer''' (pronounced: [shy-mer], née '''Kiswiney;''' May 11, 1943 – October 24, 2018) was the maternal grandmother and legal guardian of [[Daniel Larson]], adoptive mother of [[Elisabeth ~~Shimer]], mother of [[Family#Sarah and Rachel Shimer\|Sarah and Rachel Shimer]], ex-wife of [[Family#Daniel William Shimer\|Daniel William~~ Shimer]], and ex-mother-in-law of [[Travis Larson]].		'''Nancy Louise Shimer''' (pronounced: [shy-mer], née '''Kiswiney;''' May 11, 1943 – October 24, 2018) was the maternal grandmother and legal guardian of [[Daniel Larson]], adoptive mother of [[Elisabeth Shimer]], and ex-mother-in-law of [[Travis Larson]].

	Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.		Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.

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	Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.		Nancy was one of the most important figures in Daniels life. She moved from her home in [[California]] to Colorado to accompany Daniel during his stay at the Tennyson Center, taking guardianship of him to prevent him from being moved into a foster home after being removed from his mothers care by social services.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCZEd11Hdo&t=19s</ref> Despite kinder treatment of Daniel, she was known to have enabled his bad habits, and allegedly, Daniel was said to have physically abused Nancy when he didn’t get his way.

	Nancy passed away ~~in Oakland, California,~~ on ~~July~~ 24, ~~2019,<ref>https://www.mountainviewcemetery.org/obituaries/obituary-listings?obId=6501996</ref>~~ at 72 years of age, of cancer.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ_iYN19sY</ref> Even after being informed of her death, Daniel did not even bother to see his grandmother on her death bed. Her funeral service was held at the Mountain View Cemetery Tower Chapel in Piedmont Ave, Oakland. It is assumed that Daniel either did not attend, or was not invited.		Nancy passed away on October 24, 2018 at 75 years of age, of cancer.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ_iYN19sY</ref> Even after being informed of her death, Daniel did not even bother to see his grandmother on her death bed. Her funeral service was held at the Mountain View Cemetery Tower Chapel in Piedmont Ave, Oakland. It is assumed that Daniel either did not attend, or was not invited.

	After her death, Daniel would repeatedly mock Nancy's memory by stating that his grandmother put a curse on her, saying that his autism caused her to die, and [[Homeless Era\|being]] [[Pedophilia\|everything]] [[December 10th Incident\|Nancy]] [[November 6th Arrest\|did]] [[Second Jail Arc\|not]] [[Bodega Incident\|want]] [[Bob Proctor\|him]] [[Dine and dashes\|to]] [[Daniel's Criminal History\|be]].		After her death, Daniel would repeatedly mock Nancy's memory by stating that his grandmother put a curse on her, saying that his autism caused her to die, and [[Homeless Era\|being]] [[Pedophilia\|everything]] [[December 10th Incident\|Nancy]] [[November 6th Arrest\|did]] [[Second Jail Arc\|not]] [[Bodega Incident\|want]] [[Bob Proctor\|him]] [[Dine and dashes\|to]] [[Daniel's Criminal History\|be]].
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	Nancy and her husband eventually divorced on September 1, 2005. It is unclear if this was the date they truly divorced, though. There is also a record of them divorcing on January 30, 1984.<ref>https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/GVDZ-KV9/nancy-jean-kiswiney-1947-2019</ref> It is possible they remarried, but confirmation on this matter is inconclusive.		Nancy and her husband eventually divorced on September 1, 2005. It is unclear if this was the date they truly divorced, though. There is also a record of them divorcing on January 30, 1984.<ref>https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/GVDZ-KV9/nancy-jean-kiswiney-1947-2019</ref> It is possible they remarried, but confirmation on this matter is inconclusive.

	When [[Daniel Larson]], her grandson, was ~~about~~ 11 years old, he was removed from his mother’s care due to him suffering from alleged abuse and neglect.<ref>[[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report]]</ref> After Daniel was taken from her daughter’s care, a custody battle involving Elisabeth, Travis, and Nancy began. Information on this is sparse, but according to Daniel, Nancy’s main argument for him to not be in his father’s care was because he, quote, “didn’t even know his father.”<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> One of the other reasons stated for Nancy wanting custody of Daniel was due to fear of him ending up in a foster home, which he had been in many beforehand. Regardless of the validity of the former statement, this raises many questions about what Daniel and his father's relationship was like before his parents broke things off. It is possible that Nancy was a case manager for Daniel, or at least took on that role during Daniel's stay within his foster homes and under her guardianship.		When [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]], her grandson, was approximately 11 years old, he was removed from his mother’s care due to him suffering from alleged abuse and neglect.<ref>[[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report]]</ref> After Daniel was taken from her daughter’s care, a custody battle involving Elisabeth, Travis, and Nancy began. Information on this is sparse, but according to Daniel, Nancy’s main argument for him to not be in his father’s care was because he, quote, “didn’t even know his father.”<ref>[[Spiddlekick Interview]]</ref> One of the other reasons stated for Nancy wanting custody of Daniel was due to fear of him ending up in a foster home, which he had been in many beforehand. Regardless of the validity of the former statement, this raises many questions about what Daniel and his father's relationship was like before his parents broke things off. It is possible that Nancy was a case manager for Daniel, or at least took on that role during Daniel's stay within his foster homes and under her guardianship.

	In the end, Nancy gained custody of Daniel, and eventually became Daniel's legal guardian. Afterward, Nancy would take him out of the Tennyson centers housing program, and would be moved to just schooling. In December 2012, local Colorado news channel KWGN [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report\|reported]] on the Tennyson Center, featuring a 14-year-old Daniel and his grandmother. Nancy speaks on how Daniel was a very angry child before she gained custody of him, and was now on the path to improvement.		In the end, Nancy gained custody of Daniel, and eventually became Daniel's legal guardian. Afterward, Nancy would take him out of the Tennyson centers housing program, and would be moved to just schooling. In December 2012, local Colorado news channel KWGN [[KWGN Tennyson Center News Report\|reported]] on the Tennyson Center, featuring a 14-year-old Daniel and his grandmother. Nancy speaks on how Daniel was a very angry child before she gained custody of him, and was now on the path to improvement.
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	==Death==		==Death==
	On ~~July~~ 24, ~~2019~~, Nancy Shimer passed away at the age of 72 due to complications from [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mantle-cell-lymphoma/symptoms-causes/syc-20584872 mantal cell lymphoma], a rare, aggressive form of cancer that impacts the lymphatic system.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/share/1GjcFQRNZf/?mibextid=wwXIfr</ref> While Nancy was passing away, Daniel was invited to the hospice center, where Nancy stayed in her last moments. Instead of seeing her, Daniel chose to attend a Special Olympics game he was participating in to show that he was a “fighter." It is unknown if this was due to him simply not wanting to go, or because he was not invited. In YouTube comments made by his mother, she mentions how Daniel had allegedly beaten his grandmother, even when she was on her deathbed. If true, this may have been a contributing factor if he was not invited to her funeral.		On October 24, 2018, Nancy Shimer passed away at the age of 75 due to complications from [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mantle-cell-lymphoma/symptoms-causes/syc-20584872 mantal cell lymphoma], a rare, aggressive form of cancer that impacts the lymphatic system.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/share/1GjcFQRNZf/?mibextid=wwXIfr</ref> While Nancy was passing away, Daniel was invited to the hospice center, where Nancy stayed in her last moments. Instead of seeing her, Daniel chose to attend a Special Olympics game he was participating in to show that he was a “fighter." It is unknown if this was due to him simply not wanting to go, or because he was not invited. In YouTube comments made by his mother, she mentions how Daniel had allegedly beaten his grandmother, even when she was on her deathbed. If true, this may have been a contributing factor if he was not invited to her funeral.

	It is unknown where Nancy's funeral service was held, and it is widely believed that she was cremated.		It is unknown where Nancy's funeral service was held, and it is widely believed that she was cremated.