Tina VanderWaal - Revision history

AllHailJonas: /* Second Interaction */

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Second Interaction

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	Tina ignored all these comments.		Tina ignored all these comments.

	=== ~~Second~~ Interaction ===		=== Final Interaction ===

	On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025.		On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025.

FuckassBob at 17:27, 30 January 2026

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	{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina, in response to a myriad of messages from Daniel}}		{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina, in response to a myriad of messages from Daniel}}

	'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972 - October 20, 2025)<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> was the mother of the singer-songwriter [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] stalked and harassed due to his belief that they were in a romantic relationship.		'''Tina Marie VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972 - October 20, 2025)<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> was the mother of the singer-songwriter [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] stalked and harassed due to his belief that they were in a romantic relationship.

	Tina has had multiple correspondence with Daniel over both Instagram and YouTube, making it clear that neither she, Grace or their family want anything to do with him and advising him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help.]] These attempts to get Daniel to leave Grace alone were ultimately fruitless, mainly due to a combination of being fed lies by trolls impersonating Tina, and his absolute refusal to admit that the VanderWaals are not in his life.		Tina has had multiple correspondence with Daniel over both Instagram and YouTube, making it clear that neither she, Grace or their family want anything to do with him and advising him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help.]] These attempts to get Daniel to leave Grace alone were ultimately fruitless, mainly due to a combination of being fed lies by trolls impersonating Tina, and his absolute refusal to admit that the VanderWaals are not in his life.

	Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a battle with breast cancer.		Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a years long battle with breast cancer.

	== Prior Events ==		== Prior Events ==

FuckassBob: Cleaning up this page

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Cleaning up this page

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	{{Contact\|Although Tina has passed away, she and the family made it clear multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. They have dealt with Daniel's harassment for years.\|subject=any of the VanderWaal family members}}		{{Contact\|Although Tina has passed away, she and the family made it clear multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. They have dealt with Daniel's harassment for years.\|subject=any of the VanderWaal family members}}
	{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina~~'s first words~~ to Daniel~~, after months of harassment~~}}		{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina, in response to a myriad of messages from Daniel}}

	'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> ~~- October 20, 2025)~~ was the mother of the 22-~~year-old singer (and Daniel's crush)~~ [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] ~~was stalking~~ and ~~harassing~~ due to his ~~unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find~~ that ~~Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip~~.		'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972 - October 20, 2025)<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> was the mother of the singer-songwriter [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] stalked and harassed due to his belief that they were in a romantic relationship.

	Daniel ~~would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc~~, ~~specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13~~, ~~2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk~~ to ~~her about bailing~~ him ~~out. He continued~~ to ~~mention her in the~~ [[~~Second Jail Arc~~]], ~~from Clark mentioning~~ Tina~~'s messages~~ to ~~Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out~~.		Tina has had multiple correspondence with Daniel over both Instagram and YouTube, making it clear that neither she, Grace or their family want anything to do with him and advising him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help.]] These attempts to get Daniel to leave Grace alone were ultimately fruitless, mainly due to a combination of being fed lies by trolls impersonating Tina, and his absolute refusal to admit that the VanderWaals are not in his life.

	Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a battle with breast cancer.		Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a battle with breast cancer.

AllHailJonas at 02:12, 16 January 2026

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	{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}		{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}

	'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.		'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 22-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.

	Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.		Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.

AllHailJonas at 21:27, 30 December 2025

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			{{Contact\|Although Tina has passed away, she and the family made it clear multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. They have dealt with Daniel's harassment for years.\|subject=any of the VanderWaal family members}}
	{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}		{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}

AllHailJonas: /* First Interaction */

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First Interaction

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	Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still ~~continues to mention~~ Tina and Grace ~~frequently~~, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina wanted absolutely nothing to do with him at all.		Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still frequently mentions Tina and Grace, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina wanted absolutely nothing to do with him at all.

	== References ==		== References ==

AllHailJonas at 03:56, 29 December 2025

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	{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}		{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}

	'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.		'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.

	Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.		Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.

	Tina passed away on October 20, 2025 at 53 after a battle with breast cancer.		Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a battle with breast cancer.

	== Prior Events ==		== Prior Events ==
	Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he ~~violates~~ a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]		Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violated a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png\|thumb\|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]

	== DMs with Daniel ==		== DMs with Daniel ==
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	{{Quote\|Please message me as soon as you can}}		{{Quote\|Please message me as soon as you can}}

	She responded ~~firmly~~ the next morning, saying:		She responded the next morning firmly, saying:

	{{Quote\|"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "}}		{{Quote\|"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "}}
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	{{Quote\|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}}		{{Quote\|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}}

	This comment also ~~mentions~~ the above ~~incident~~ where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts.		This comment also refers to the incident mentioned above, where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts.

	Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded to one reply, which was Daniel asking:		Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded to one reply, which was Daniel asking:
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	{{Quote\|"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."}}		{{Quote\|"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."}}

	Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens ~~more~~ times. They were ignored by Tina.		Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens of times. They were ignored by Tina.

	{{Quote\|"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused		{{Quote\|"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused
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	== Contact with Fan ==		== Contact with Fan ==
	On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he is talking about Grace a lot, and ~~having~~ delusions that he ~~will~~ definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>		On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram, asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he was talking about Grace a lot and had delusions that he would definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>
	{{Quote\|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}}		{{Quote\|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}}

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	{{Quote\|Yes I am}}		{{Quote\|Yes I am}}

	The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote\|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote\|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read, and did not reply to the ~~comment~~.		The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote\|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote\|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read and did not reply to the message.

	== Second YouTube Video ==		== Second YouTube Video ==
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	On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help ~~donate~~, ~~with~~ a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:		On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help with donations, using a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:
	{{Quote\|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}		{{Quote\|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}}

AllHailJonas: /* YouTube Comment */

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YouTube Comment

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	This comment also mentions the above incident where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts.		This comment also mentions the above incident where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts.

	Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded ~~once more,~~ to ~~Daniel's first~~ reply, asking:		Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded to one reply, which was Daniel asking:

	{{Quote\|"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"}}		{{Quote\|"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"}}

AllHailJonas at 20:54, 24 October 2025

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	'''Tina VanderWaal''' (~~Born~~ 1972 - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.		'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.

	Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.		Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.

			Tina passed away on October 20, 2025 at 53 after a battle with breast cancer.

	== Prior Events ==		== Prior Events ==

AllHailJonas: /* Contact with Fan */

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Contact with Fan

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	== Contact with Fan ==		== Contact with Fan ==
	~~{{Contact\|Both [[Grace VanderWaal]] and her family have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him.}}~~
	On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he is talking about Grace a lot, and having delusions that he will definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>		On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he is talking about Grace a lot, and having delusions that he will definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>
	{{Quote\|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}}		{{Quote\|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}}
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	On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death.		On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025.
	{{Quote\|"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."}}		{{Quote\|"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."}}

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	{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}		{{Quote\|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.\|4=Tina's first words to Daniel, after months of harassment}}

	'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 21-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.		'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 22-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson\|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health\|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm\|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.

	Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.		Daniel would mention Tina during the First Jail Arc, specifically the [[Jail Arc\|video call on February 13, 2024]], where he expressed hope that Clark would talk to her about bailing him out. He continued to mention her in the [[Second Jail Arc]], from Clark mentioning Tina's messages to Daniel to more delusions about her bailing him out.