September 7th Jail Call

On the morning of September 7, 2024, Daniel called Clark from FCI Englewood, and had their first conversation in nearly four months. Daniel talks about how he has been in protective custody for the last few months, and how he may be transferred to a psychiatric facility in a different state.

This call reveals the unsurprising fact that no matter how much sense people try to knock into Daniel, it never works, as he is still thinking about Grace despite being told that he is not in contact with her.

This is the first call that takes place in FCI Englewood.

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Clark: Dang, Daniel! How you doin'? Daniel: Absolutely terrible. *sighs* *Clark chuckles* So, um... so, my lawyer, my public defender, OK, is with the public defender's office, OK- a federal public defender's office out of uh, Denver, Colorado. And, his name is Jared [REDACTED]. He is saying I'm incompetent and I'm going to get transferred to a psychiatric facility. He's naming five different ones, one in South Carolina which doesn't make sense. I'm being told I would be moving to either South Carolina or Missouri, New York City, or New York, somewhere in New York, San Diego or Seattle. Clark: What the hell? Missouri? Daniel: Bob doesn't- Bob doesn't want me leaving the state, ok... [video cuts] Daniel: There's no time frame on when I'm going to get trans- transferred. The um, paperwork got submitted to the court over two months ago, so I'm just sitting and just waiting right now. Clark: It's terrible! Daniel: And I have a legal phone call with my lawyer today and I am being told by Bob, and I'm also thinking that, like why am I just sitting here? Like, they either need to get me transferred or at this point, get me time served and get me out. Clark: I agree. Daniel: Because like- because I mean threats? It's not I acted on them. I was homeless and I was demanding help. So where- wh-wh-where is the- where is the actual issue there? There isn't! Clark: You're right! They just- I mean they took advantage of a... I mean, I really don't understand either. I mean, has MacDougall even tried to talk to you since then, or MacDougall? Daniel: No, no. He hasn't. And he also told me, he promised me that Grace and I would be having the wedding. Clark: Fuck... well I don't even... Daniel: Like he's- he's promised me stuff now that is just not even happening, and then he was trying to accuse me of things, that... it's like, there's absolutely zero evidence of. Clark: Yeah, like the... child, uh- p- Daniel: The child molesting thing, which there's absolutely no evidence, so that never even got, that never even went through, because they just don't have evidence. Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Daniel: And then, um, also they were trying to accuse Bob of raping me! Clark: What the hell? Daniel: Yeah! They were trying to straight up accuse Bob and then lie to me just to get Bob arrested for sex crimes! Like, if you are gonna continue to do that, there's gonna be further issues! Clark: Ooooh... Daniek: 'Cause it's- it's straight up, like, not okay. You know, especially if it- if they're saying it happened to me and I absolutely know that- that is false information that they're saying is just ridiculous! Clark: I mean they're just- I mean, I'm surprised they didn't, uh, haven't arrested ME and other people and tried to accuse me of things. Daniel: Right! Clark: Why did that- so you got, I'm get- so all of July you were in the SHU, right? Daniel: I was in the SHU, yes, all of July. Pretty much. Clark: What... what, what happened? Did someone try and fight you, you said? Daniel: Somebody was trying to fight me, people were calling into the jail apparently, like to the actual like, facility. Sending threats to me, and so I was getting pretty much attacked for people calling in, and I'm like, "Guys, like, I'm famous. It's not my problem." Like, there's nothing I can do. Clark: Dang, so then they put you in protective custody? Daniel: They- I've been in protective custody on 22 hour lockdown, for over two months now. Clark: Sheesh! Daniel: Like, going on three months. Clark: What do you do all day? Daniel: Either sleep, or just read books. And people are still saying I don't know how to read books, when I do. So that's another thing that's pissing me off, is like, people are accusing me of not knowing how to read, and they don't even know if I can or can't. Clark: What, no- Daniel: So they don't even have a say. Clark: The cops were saying that, or like the inmates? Or just- Daniel: Everybody. Clark: Geez, yeah that's- Daniel: And then, other.. I guess other people inside the jail, inmates and CO's keep coming up to me, like joking around about Grace, saying, oh, I'm in contact with her now, I'm dating her. Clark: Geez! Daniel: And, all that's doing is, that's creating- that's getting me angry. You know, it's like, OK, like, do you have their number? 'Cause I have their number! Clark: Ooooh... Daniel: I'm not like, I don't have it, you know, straight on me, but it's in my legal discovery. It's just blocked out. You know what I mean? Like, I have more than enough proof right now and I'm pretty sure you don't. You know, and it's- they're just creating all these random arguments with me. Clark: I mean, they can look you up and see that you're in there for like, huge charges. Those people are probably in there for like, ped- like the jail you're in has a lot of pedophiles and stuff, like that Subway guy? Daniel: Right, but the thing is my charges are not that big. Clark: Exactly. Daniel: ...if you really think about it. They're samll compared to a lot of these other people. Clark: True. [video cuts] Clark: It's true. Daniel: You know, I'm just- I'm basically right now just serving time. That's all it is. Clark: And what books have you been reading? Did you get it from a commissary or something? Daniel: No, there's a library here. Clark: Hmmm. Daniel: I got a bunch of- I guess, like, two or three books. I've been reading like, fairy tale stuff, vampire stuff. Clark: Oh, that's good. Daniel: But, um, anyways, apparently Bob- Bob is all pissed off about what's going on with Grace. He's like, OK, so we know that Grace is involved. Why is she not helping? Like, why is she not getting you out? You know, like she's a millionaire, she should be able to just, you know, get you right now and get you on the record deal. Why is she not helping? He's pissed off and... I probably shouldn't say this because I don't wanna piss YOU off, but Bob is at the same time, kind of upset at YOU... Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Daniel: ....you got me in contact with the other person who claimed to be Grace, right? We know that, you got me in contact with the person claiming to be Tina and the person claiming to be Grace. I don't know right now if that is- if that was real or fake, but what I do know is when they told me that they were in contact with the FBI, okay, one thing I can confirm is that what they were saying is true in my legal discovery. Clark: That's true- yeah your legal discovery, we haven't- I haven't been able to see that, but what else? Daniel: Right, but my legal discovery straight up has conversations with the verified Tina, Grace's mother, where it's straight up talking about being in contact with me and saying, "Grace is not dating you, she's not aware of you", but what I find weird is that there's a straight up letter that got sent to the homeless shelter, where it straight up is from the real Dave, and Dave as we know, was wanting the relationship and the wedding all along. He has no problem with it, as we know, right? Clark: Yeah, I mean, assumming so, yeah. Daniel: Right, and so, the thing is, he is the one that apparently sent the letter, and now they're all saying, including Grace, that none of that ever happened. Clark: Geez! Daniel: And there's like, literal proof, like it came from their address, so who here is lying? Clark: Uh, I- it's all confusing, and then.. [video cuts] Daniel: ...or whoever this Grace is, which is from my understanding, the real Grace... is in my legal discovery, which straight up- it's the same stuff that you were saying when I was in contact with you prior to- prior to my arrest. So I'm being... the information I'm being given, right, is making me sound crazy. And it's- Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Daniel (continuing): It's pissing everybody off, you see what I mean? Clark: Yeah, I mean and they keep pushing back your trial. Daniel: And they k- Right, and they keep pushing back my trial, so who is doing that? You know, like at this point I don't know why I'm just- why I'm not just out, you know and they get me housing, you know like- like, wherever I'm supposed to go, you know? *coughs* Clark: I mean, like, Biden did drop out of the race, so it is Kamala now and I don't know if you heard, apparently there were like Venezuelan gangs coming to Aurora, Colorado and like, taking over apartments and stuff, I was like- Daniel *interrupting*: Yeah yeah, no, I heard about that, that's... true, that's what's going on. Um, I mean, what could also be going on too is I mean, all the shootings and stuff. Clark: Yeah. Daniel: They could be just saying threats are just one step away from the actual doing. The thing is, I'm not- I'm not that type of person. Clark: Yeah. Daniel: I don't, I'm not gonna just act on it, I was demanding help and I even have proof in my legal discovery of me demanding help, going to hospitals. Nobody ever once did anything, now they're doing kind of the same thing, but just holding me here. When... when is- when are things going to progress actually get better? I don't see it happening anytime soon. Clark: And I'm guessing, do they not have tablets in this one like that other? Daniel: No. But anyways, I gotta go, our time's almost up. Clark: OK. Daniel: I'll have to call you back. Clark: Um, one more thing. Try and write down some lyrics, 'cause next time we call, maybe you can like sing over the phone or something. Daniel: I don't know, we'll figure something out, OK? Clark: OK. Daniel: Alright, bye. Clark: Alright, bye.