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 {{Quote|I am a [[Music Career|singer, song writer]]. I am a Christan and Believe that God put me here for a Good reason. I show my love for him through my music..|author=Elisabeth's Facebook bio.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/p/Elisabeth-Shimer-100061085711239/</ref>}}
 {{Quote|My son is my heart....I would sacrifice everything for him that is in my life..........I LOVE YOU MY BIG BOY...................||author=Elisabeth, about a young [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]]. That did not age well.}}
-{{Infobox|image=ElisabethShimer.jpeg|imageDesc=Notice her distinct lack of eyebrows.|name=Elisabeth Shimer|Knownas=Lisa|Alignment=Daniel Larson’s mother|DOB=November 4, 1976 - October 2024|Nationality=American|Race=White|Parents= [[Nancy Shimer]] (1947–2019)<br>[[Family#Daniel William Shimer|Daniel William Shimer]] (1943–2015)|Arcs=[[Before Era]]}}
+{{Infobox|image=ElisabethShimer.jpeg|imageDesc=Notice her distinct lack of eyebrows.|name=Elisabeth Shimer|Knownas=Lisa|Alignment=Daniel Larson’s mother|DOB=November 4, 1976 - October 2024 (aged 47)|Nationality=American|Race=White|Parents= [[Nancy Shimer]] (1947–2019)<br>[[Family#Daniel William Shimer|Daniel William Shimer]] (1943–2015)|Arcs=[[Before Era]]}}
 '''Elisabeth Lee Avey''' (née '''Shimer''', pronounced: [shy-mer]; November 4, 1976 – October 2024), name commonly mispelled as '''Elizabeth''', was the ex-lover of [[Travis Larson]], adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] and [[Family#Daniel William Shimer|Daniel William Shimer]], and most notably, the mother of [[Daniel Larson]] and his late siblings, [[Family#Joyetta and Olivia Larson|Joyetta and Olivia Larson.]]
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 In 1990, Elisabeth enrolled in YPIA (Young Peoples Institute of Arts and Academics), where she graduated from in 1993.<ref name=":0">https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484481132561%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> From 1995 to 2004, Elisabeth enrolled in Antelope Valley College, graduating in Music and Performing Arts.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484427799233%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref> Not long after enrolling in AVC, Elisabeth would meet [[Travis Larson]], who, not long after, would help conceive Daniel with, to which she'd give birth on November 15th, 1998.[[File:Daniel's Mother Greiving.png|thumb|500x500px|Daniel's mother grieving the deaths of Joyetta and Olivia.]]
-Later on, on March 27th, 2001, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She'd soon give birth to Daniels only siblings, twin girls [[Family|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]], though the twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>
+Later on, on March 27th, 2001, Elisabeth would conceive children with Travis once more. She'd soon give birth to Daniels only siblings, [[Family|Joyetta and Olivia Larson]]. The twins passed away the following day due to RH incompatibility.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0MnyaEcaQ2RWSmKDwvt26jKSZw7xEZRMYiBkFQAV3EENY8vvYHxxfFuLFWcn8FYual</ref>
-Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to Youtube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need, Elisabeth more so, as at this time, she was in a wheelchair. But not long after, she would have no custody over him, as [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] would be taken away by the state of Colorado and begin living in foster care, and eventually the [[Tennyson Center]]. While the reason stated for Daniel being taken away was due to neglect, it is unconfirmed as to what Elisabeth (or Travis) did to him. [[File:Elisabeth's Tweets.png|thumb|328x328px|Elisabeth, tweeting about her "music career"]]Daniel has stated that his mother “couldn’t take care of him anymore,”{{Citation Needed}} and given the fact that at this time Elisabeth was disabled and in a wheelchair, it is very likely that her disability impacted her ability and to care for him, resulting in neglect. Even so, it is hard to tell what is true about Elisabeth and what is not, due to Daniel constantly going back and forth on whether he was abused or not. This seems likely, though, as in 2010, Travis and Elisabeth had parted ways. According to one of Elisabeths facbeook posts, this occured after Travis told Elisabeth to stay away from Daniel, as he'd "never get better". With this absence, it most likely added an extra factor of difficulty to parenting Daniel.
+Elisabeth would move to [[Colorado Springs|Colorado]] in 2009, when Daniel was 11.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F100000130337751%2Fposts%2F348916081789400%2F</ref> According to YouTube comments, her reasoning for moving to Colorado was due to the greater mental and physical health support, which both her and Daniel would need. By this time, Elisabeth was in a wheelchair due her years-long battle with lupus, compounded by several rounds of chemotherapy and immunosuppressants.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref>
+But not long after, she would have no custody over him, as [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] would be taken away by the state of Colorado and begin living in foster care, and eventually the [[Tennyson Center]]. While the reason stated for Daniel being taken away was due to neglect, it is unconfirmed as to what Elisabeth (or Travis) did to him.[[File:Elisabeth's Tweets.png|thumb|328x328px|Elisabeth, tweeting about her "music career"]]Daniel has stated that his mother “couldn’t take care of him anymore,”{{Citation Needed}} and given the fact that at this time Elisabeth was disabled and in a wheelchair, it is very likely that her disability impacted her ability and to care for him, resulting in neglect. Even so, it is hard to tell what is true about Elisabeth and what is not, due to Daniel constantly going back and forth on whether he was abused or not. This seems likely, though, as in 2010, Travis and Elisabeth had parted ways. According to one of Elisabeths facbeook posts, this occured after Travis told Elisabeth to stay away from Daniel, as he'd "never get better". With this absence, it most likely added an extra factor of difficulty to parenting Daniel.
 With her new husband, James Avey, who she'd get engaged to on January 1st, 2011, she would co-own their business, [[Avey Incubator Inc]] in 2010, which sold animal incubators.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Ftimeline%2Fstory%3Fut%3D32%26wstart%3D-2051193600%26wend%3D2147483647%26hash%3D255484311132578%26pagefilter%3D3%26ustart%3D1</ref>
 [[File:ElisabethNewHusband.png|left|thumb|284x284px|Elisabeth, and James Avey. ]]
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 Sometime after Daniel was adopted by Nancy, Elisabeth was soon given access to see him once more, though the exact date is unknown. She had also made a tribute video to Joyetta and Olivia, wherein she sang "Angels", sharing various pictures of them after birth. Elisabeth shows an intense love for both of these children, although by the time the video had been posted, it had been well over a decade after their births, presumably showing more love for them than Daniel.
-===Later life, and poor health===
-Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, an incurable genetic autoimmune disease found predominantly in women, which caused her multiple health related issues.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref> While Travis lived happy life with his new wife and child(ren), the same probably cannot be said for her.
-As of March 10th, 2010, Elisabeth has been put on chemotherapy and immunosuppressants due to her lupus, which eventually left her wheelchair-bound.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid02s8UAJC62RxL7SuCvYSnEcRNePmbR4QnBgTEBvWk7MmQxpxPMXaN4sQ3f1hrpRsA8l</ref> In 2015, she went into partial assisted living, where her health would continue to deteriorate further which is evidenced by her posting on Facebook about her being in and out of the hospital on a daily basis.<sup>[See discussion page, '''<u>do not cite</u>''']</sup>
+Sometime in 2015, Elisabeth went into partial assisted living, where her health would deteriorate further, evidenced by her posting on Facebook about herself being in and out of the hospital on a daily basis.<sup>[See discussion page, '''<u>do not cite</u>''']</sup>
-{{Quote|Well saw the Dr today....He says I don't have MS........but I do have Lupus in the aggressive state........I already knew that though ...have had it since I was 20 years old.......He put me back on chemo and immunosuppressents.....to keep me stable.........still have the ear infection and pneumonia......... he said it will take some time to get well...........}}
+On February 8th, 2016, Elisabeth posted on Facebook that she is paralyzed from the breastbone down, causing her to be in a wheelchair permanently.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0JtMbBhGNdBew78Qi6SyKKBNiPPMESAGtkUhjbrYViPSBdQue765qeJWpVZFK8C5Bl</ref> This should be remembered, as her being in a wheelchair would not prove to be positive within the coming years.
-On February 8th, 2016, Elisabeth posted on Facebook that she is paralyzed from the breastbone down, causing her to be in a wheelchair permanently.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdannybob98%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0JtMbBhGNdBew78Qi6SyKKBNiPPMESAGtkUhjbrYViPSBdQue765qeJWpVZFK8C5Bl</ref> This should be remembered, as her being in a wheelchair would not prove to be positive within the coming years.
+[[File:ElisabethDeath.png|thumb|277x277px|Facebook posts from Donna]]
 === Death ===
-Elisabeth died in October 2024 at the age of 46 due to unknown circumstances. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1gqk77t/rip/</ref>
+Elisabeth died in October 2024 at the age of 47 due to unknown circumstances. The circumstances of her death are widely debated, with many attempting to contest that Daniel's mother had truly passed.
+Elisabeth's death was initially made known by Daniel's biological aunt, Donna Mcelroy. It is widely believed that Donna is Elisabeth's sister from her biological family. This relationship is reinforced by past posts made by Donna which Elisabeth commented on. In a Facebook post made in August 2024, Donna made it known that she had not heard from Elisabeth in nearly two years, before posting in October of same year, announcing Elisabeths death and asking for further information regarding it.
+As of 2025, it is still unknown what caused Elisabeths death. Additionally, the status of her husband is also unknown.
 == Custody Battle for Daniel ==
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 {{Quote|I'm Danny's mom and yes we have moved here for the services. He doesn't just have autism he has severe bi polar and shizophrenic. He has beaten me and my mom... he has lied and has fantasies about so many things. He does not want to listen to authority...he is not famous but wants to beleive he is.he does what he wants and if you dont let him he gets violent..if you want more information contact me|Elisabeth, in Papa Guts comment section.<ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>|author=Elisabeth <ref>https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/File:Elisabeth_Comment_1.png</ref>}}
 Suffice to say, she had absolutely no more love for Daniel and had grown to despise him, despite being the only (biological) family she has still left.
-==Other Social Media Accounts==
-[[File:Shakybby.jpg|thumb|Example of a troll pretending to be his mother|367x367px]]While there are various social media accounts that can be verifiably identified as Elisabeth, there are also several TikTok and social media accounts with her name, but none of them have been verified, as most are run by people using her photos to impersonate her. Most of them re-upload videos from her YouTube channel to try and add validity, but some have caught the communities attention by leaving comments on Daniel's videos. But what is important to note is that '''none of these accounts are real''', as most of them have been created very recently and have no information to prove that they are the real, authentic Elisabeth.
-When seeing an account claiming to be Elisabeth or any of Daniel's other family members, take it with a grain of salt, as it is mostly likely run by [[trolls]] or impersonators.
 == Gallery ==
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 File:Elisabeth1.png|Now it's clear where Daniel gets it from.
 File:Elisabeth2.png|Her real parents have got to be siblings.
-File:Elisabeth3.png|Mrs. Larson in the modern day.
+File:Elisabeth3.png|Mrs. Larson not long before she died.
 File:Elisabeth4.png|Look at that double chin.
 </gallery>