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'''Tina VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> - October 20, 2025) was the mother of the 22-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] was stalking and harassing due to his unhealthy obsession with her. Daniel messaged her multiple times, only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him, told him to stop harassing Grace, and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help]], to which Daniel [[Self Harm|threatened suicide]] to guilt-trip.

Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violated a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]

She responded the next morning firmly, saying:

This comment also refers to the incident mentioned above, where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts.

Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded to one reply, which was Daniel asking:

Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens of times. They were ignored by Tina.

On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram, asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he was talking about Grace a lot and had delusions that he would definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref>

The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read and did not reply to the message.

On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help with donations, using a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace:

On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025.

Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still frequently mentions Tina and Grace, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina wanted absolutely nothing to do with him at all.