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{{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it.|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success|4=Grace's first (and probably only) official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel|DOB=January 15, 2004|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Female|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)|Arcs=}} | {{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success|4=Grace's first (and probably only) official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel|DOB=January 15, 2004|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Female|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)|Arcs=}} | ||
'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since he was around 17 years old. | '''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since he was around 17 years old. | ||
Ever since, | Daniel saw Grace performing on ''America's Got Talent'' while watching the show with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]]. Ever since, he has had an unhealthy obsession, despite Grace being [[Pedophilia|underage]] for the majority of it. Since his infatuation with her started, Daniel has convinced himself that he is a part of her life. This perceived "relationship" progressed rapidly over time, influenced by Daniel's own delusions, which were further strengthened by interactions with [[Management|managers]], [[trolls]], and those pretending to be Grace. | ||
Starting in 2021, Daniel's posts regarding Grace on his [[Social Media Accounts|numerous social media accounts]] became increasingly explicit. In many of these posts, Daniel would talk in graphic detail about his sexual fantasies involving her, describing the various inappropriate acts that he would like to do with her. When engaging with trolls impersonating Grace, Daniel has almost always referenced images of her from her childhood. | |||
Grace, and to a lesser extent, her family, were frequently impersonated by trolls, who used her identity to deceive Daniel and gain his trust. On multiple occasions, Daniel has engaged with these trolls | Grace, and to a lesser extent, her family, were frequently impersonated by trolls, who used her identity to deceive Daniel and gain his trust. On multiple occasions, Daniel has engaged in conversations with these trolls that involve disturbing and often inappropriate topics. Despite being misled by numerous individuals pretending to be Grace, he continues to fall for these deceptions. Tina, Grace's mother, confronted Daniel multiple times from the harassment. | ||
On | On April 17, 2024, Grace publicly acknowledged Daniel in a comment on her TikTok, ''@gracevanderpeepee,'' calling him a pedophile who has haunted her life.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6ut1b/the_real_grace_called_daniel_a_pdo/?sort=new</ref> Additionally, Grace has filtered out any mention of Daniel's name from her comment sections, adding further weight to the notion that she is aware of him and despises him. Furthermore, messages attributed to her mother suggest that Grace and her family wish to have no contact with him. More recently, she disabled all of her TikTok comments after the comment sections were flooded with Daniel references. | ||
Despite being told off by her mother Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently in the [[Second Jail Arc]] | Despite being told off by her mother, Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently, in late 2024, during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he still expressed his love for her in phone calls, even while incarcerated, and talked about her possibly bailing him out. | ||
== Origins == | == Origins == | ||
Daniel has been obsessed with Grace ever since she performed on America's Got Talent in 2016. He has stated that watching the show was a common pastime with his grandmother. | Daniel has been obsessed with Grace ever since she performed on America's Got Talent in 2016. He has stated that watching the show was a common pastime with his grandmother. Although of questionable validity, his grandmother is documented to have said that Daniel might one day perform with Grace on stage. Since then, Daniel has believed that they were in a romantic relationship, despite him being 17 and [[Pedophilia|Grace being 12]] at that time. | ||
Daniel mentioned Grace a few times in 2020 | Daniel mentioned Grace a few times in 2020; in one instance in November, he claimed that he would be collaborating with Grace on a Zoom meeting, which he was likely told by management at the time. | ||
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Starting on May | Starting on May 11, 2021, Daniel began claiming that he and Grace had a collaboration in progress that would be coming out soon. Later, he escalated these claims by stating on TikTok that he and Grace had started dating. Things escalated quickly from there. Daniel's fixation intensified as he began telling strangers on the street that he was in a relationship with her. More disturbingly, Daniel recorded multiple videos of himself moaning and whispering in a sensual manner for Grace's viewing pleasure, and even worse, recorded himself having an orgasm ('''NSFW!)''' <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/zcrw51/someone_sent_me_this/</ref> while whispering her name.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/13kpc3t/this_message_is_for_grace_uhhhhh_ohhhh_mmmmm_oh/</ref> In stark contrast to his lustful posts regarding Grace, Daniel has also posted hysterical videos about her 'breaking up' with him, calling her a bitch, and using various other expletives.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11pt54u/you_are_a_fucking_bitch_grace]</ref> Although Daniel has issued multiple apologies for the sexually charged videos he made about Grace, he has continued this behavior. While malicious trolls have played a role in deceiving and reinforcing his belief that he was in a relationship with her, his actions have repeatedly demonstrated an intense and persistent obsession with her.[[File:DanielGrace.png|thumb| Daniel mogs Grace with his Greek God-esque Jawline.|left]] | ||
Daniel, fully aware that Grace was under 18, made multiple posts claiming that he would, "...wait until Grace is 18." His claims about their relationship have shifted depending on his delusions at the time. When viewing it as romantic, Daniel refers to Grace as his girlfriend. When perceiving it as sexual, he has described explicit acts he wishes to engage in with her. Daniel even released a song about his "relationship" with her, with the most repeated word being "sex". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIBaMTLODM</ref> | Daniel, fully aware that Grace was under 18, made multiple posts claiming that he would, "...wait until Grace is 18." His claims about their relationship have shifted depending on his delusions at the time. When viewing it as romantic, Daniel refers to Grace as his girlfriend. When perceiving it as sexual, he has described explicit acts he wishes to engage in with her. Daniel even released a song about his "relationship" with her, with the most repeated word being "sex". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIBaMTLODM</ref> | ||
Daniel continues to insist that his obsession with Grace is not sexual, claiming instead that he simply "...wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref> However, everything Daniel says about Grace should be taken with a huge grain of salt as he has a tendency to internalize his delusions. | Daniel continues to insist that his obsession with Grace is not sexual, claiming instead that he simply "...wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref> However, everything Daniel says about Grace should be taken with a huge grain of salt, as he has a tendency to internalize his delusions. | ||
{{Quote|I just wanted a chance and I need help! I was never givin a chance and every single time I tried to contact you i get threatened. I really like your daughter for who she is and not for sexual reasons. The trolls want everyone to think it's for sexual reasons. I just wanted to stand out and have a chance with her! I know the competition she has. We are all human and we do sexual activities though. But that doesn't make me a pedophile if I have never even done anything and everyone uses me because I don't have protection. I'm sorry for everything being crazy}}<gallery> | {{Quote|I just wanted a chance and I need help! I was never givin a chance and every single time I tried to contact you i get threatened. I really like your daughter for who she is and not for sexual reasons. The trolls want everyone to think it's for sexual reasons. I just wanted to stand out and have a chance with her! I know the competition she has. We are all human and we do sexual activities though. But that doesn't make me a pedophile if I have never even done anything and everyone uses me because I don't have protection. I'm sorry for everything being crazy}}<gallery> | ||
File:Danieldenying2.png|Daniel denying his pedophilic attraction to Grace. | File:Danieldenying2.png|Daniel denying his pedophilic attraction to Grace. | ||
File:Danieldenying.png | File:Danieldenying.png | ||
</gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard and has frequently targeted her with his obsessive behavior, similar to other figures he has fixated on, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram were frequently inundated with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a direct conversation with her in real time. Daniel repeatedly mentioned and tagged her in his own TikTok videos, causing her notifications to be dominated by his messages. This behavior persisted across nearly all of his TikTok accounts, eventually leading to the suspension of one due to repeated harassment. Shortly after, Grace filtered out terms in her comments such as "Daniel Larson," "Mr. President," and "Danderson" from her TikTok comments to prevent further interaction. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref> | </gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard and has frequently targeted her with his obsessive behavior, similar to other figures he has fixated on, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram were frequently inundated with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a direct conversation with her in real time. Daniel repeatedly mentioned and tagged her in his own TikTok videos, causing her notifications to be dominated by his messages. This behavior persisted across nearly all of his TikTok accounts, eventually leading to the suspension of one due to repeated harassment. Shortly after, Grace filtered out terms in her comments, such as "Daniel Larson," "Mr. President," and "Danderson" from her TikTok comments to prevent further interaction. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref> | ||
As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace shows no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of individuals impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in egregious and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content like [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. | As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace shows no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of individuals impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in egregious and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content like [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. | ||
Even during the [[Jail Arc]]'','' Daniel has mentioned Grace in phone conversations with Clark, seemingly believing that she might bail him out. While his Graceposting has eased up, it has never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's | Even during the [[Jail Arc]]'','' Daniel has mentioned Grace in phone conversations with Clark, seemingly believing that she might bail him out. While his Graceposting has eased up, it has never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. He still thinks about Grace while [[Second Jail Arc|incarcerated for federal crimes]], however the most recent time he mentioned her was in a letter in March 2025, saying that she was involved in the case. | ||
Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. | Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. | ||
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''Main Article: [[August 29th Meltdown]]'' | ''Main Article: [[August 29th Meltdown]]'' | ||
On August 29, 2023, an already on-edge Daniel who had already spent a night on the streets, was being contacted by a troll pretending to be Grace, trying to | On August 29, 2023, an already on-edge Daniel, who had already spent a night on the streets, was being contacted by a troll pretending to be Grace, trying to provoke him by making threats towards him, such as that "Tyrone would butt-fuck him until he dies", calling him a pedophile, and telling him to have sex with Bob. Daniel became upset on his Community Tab page, making threats and attempting to text 9-1-1 a screenshot of his conversation. However, Daniel uploaded and deleted a YouTube short, calling her the [[Self Defense Word|N-word]], and saying how he will always hate her. Later, Daniel went live on YouTube in a full-blown meltdown, repeatedly punching himself in the head, slamming his head into a wall, and wishing death upon Grace. | ||
== Contact == | == Contact == | ||
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]] | [[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]] | ||
While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. | While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has very rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him. | ||
=== Jakob VanderWaal === | === Jakob VanderWaal === | ||
Daniel's obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him in December 2021. He | Daniel's extreme obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him in December 2021. He confronted Daniel, telling him to leave her and their family alone, and were considering putting a restraining order against him with the threat of building a criminal case. Daniel had an intense reaction to this confrontation, as he went to the hospital and at one point, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref> | ||
=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] === | === [[Tina VanderWaal]] === | ||
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{{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | {{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | ||
Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, stating that things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and insisting he is misunderstood. He has not received a response. <gallery widths="150" heights="150"> | Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, stating that things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and insisting he is misunderstood. He has not received a response. In direct messages with a fan, Tina stated that the family had contacted the FBI, but had no recourse unless Daniel made threats. <gallery widths="150" heights="150"> | ||
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{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | {{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | ||
Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. This is the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel regarding Grace. | Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. Tina replied multiple times in this thread, telling him to take control of his life, calling out all his delusions and telling him for the final time to stop harassing Grace. This is the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel regarding Grace. | ||
=== Grace Rape Troll === | === Grace Rape Troll === | ||
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While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace responded by stating that she had never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to do so. She emphatically expressed her hatred for him and her desire for him to stop mentioning her name. | While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace responded by stating that she had never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to do so. She emphatically expressed her hatred for him and her desire for him to stop mentioning her name. | ||
{{Quote|I know who he is, but I have never contacted him and don't | {{Quote|Have you ever been in contact with Daniel Larson? Do you know who he is?}}{{Quote|I know who he is, but I have never contacted him and don't want anything to do with him. He's the worse things that's ever happened to my career. Every time I search my name I see pictures of that dirty pedophile. My posts get spammed with comments about that freak Daniel. I hate him and wish he would just stop talking about me.}} | ||
They replied to Grace with condolences for both her and her family, offering to stop messaging Grace about Daniel. | They replied to Grace with condolences for both her and her family, offering to stop messaging Grace about Daniel. {{Quote|Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. If you want I'll leave your family alone and quit asking y'all questions about Daniel.}} | ||
{{Quote|No, it's okay I understand that you're just trying to help. It's nice having someone to talk to about the problem and I can tell | {{Quote|No, it's okay I understand that you're just trying to help. It's nice having someone to talk to about the problem and I can tell you're a nice guy.}} | ||
This was the last message Grace sent before their exchange ended. | This was the last message Grace sent before their exchange ended. | ||