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{{Quote|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.|4=Tina | {{Contact|Although Tina has passed away, she and the family made it clear multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. They have dealt with Daniel's harassment for years.|subject=any of the VanderWaal family members}} | ||
{{Quote|Stop saying my daughter's name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her.|4=Tina, in response to a myriad of messages from Daniel}} | |||
'''Tina VanderWaal''' ( | '''Tina Marie VanderWaal''' (born February 22, 1972 - October 20, 2025)<ref>https://www.andersonfhsc.com/obituaries/tina-vanderwaal</ref> was the mother of the singer-songwriter [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] stalked and harassed due to his belief that they were in a romantic relationship. | ||
Daniel | Tina has had multiple correspondence with Daniel over both Instagram and YouTube, making it clear that neither she, Grace or their family want anything to do with him and advising him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help.]] These attempts to get Daniel to leave Grace alone were ultimately fruitless, mainly due to a combination of being fed lies by trolls impersonating Tina, and his absolute refusal to admit that the VanderWaals are not in his life. | ||
Tina passed away on October 20, 2025, at 53, after a years long battle with breast cancer. | |||
== Prior Events == | == Prior Events == | ||
Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he | Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violated a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref>[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]] | ||
== DMs with Daniel == | == DMs with Daniel == | ||
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{{Quote|Please message me as soon as you can}} | {{Quote|Please message me as soon as you can}} | ||
She responded | She responded the next morning firmly, saying: | ||
{{Quote|"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "}} | {{Quote|"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "}} | ||
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{{Quote|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}} | {{Quote|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}} | ||
This comment also | This comment also refers to the incident mentioned above, where Tina replied to one of Daniel's texts. | ||
Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded | Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours, begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded to one reply, which was Daniel asking: | ||
{{Quote|"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"}} | {{Quote|"Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?"}} | ||
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{{Quote|"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."}} | {{Quote|"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."}} | ||
Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens | Later, Daniel would continue to reply dozens of times. They were ignored by Tina. | ||
{{Quote|"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused | {{Quote|"I understand I just want to say I'm sorry and I can explain everything and help. Everything got messed up because of my past friendships. I'm sorry miss understude. I fucked up! And I want to help in any way to show you who I really am. I really do have your entire family and your daughter in best interest. It hurts me too to see this like this. I just really care and I am a fighter and with no support I got confused | ||
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== Contact with Fan == | == Contact with Fan == | ||
On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he | On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram, asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he was talking about Grace a lot and had delusions that he would definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref> | ||
{{Quote|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}} | {{Quote|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}} | ||
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{{Quote|Yes I am}} | {{Quote|Yes I am}} | ||
The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read | The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read and did not reply to the message. | ||
== Second YouTube Video == | == Second YouTube Video == | ||
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=== First Interaction === | === First Interaction === | ||
On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help | On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help with donations, using a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace: | ||
{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | {{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | ||
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Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still | Despite Tina's warnings, Daniel never acknowledged them due to his delusions. He still frequently mentions Tina and Grace, and even talked about trying to get them to help him bail him out during the [[Jail Arc]]. However, the messages she sent to Daniel are very clear that Tina wanted absolutely nothing to do with him at all. | ||
== References == | == References == | ||