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{{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY of her family members}}{{Stub}}{{Quote|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success|4=Grace's first (and probably only) official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel|DOB=January 15, 2004|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Female|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)|Arcs=}}

'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with her since his late teens. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref>   

A common pastime for Daniel was watching the show America's Got Talent with his grandmother. When Grace performed on the show in 2016, Daniel became obsessed with her. While not confirmed, Nancy supposedly told Daniel that he might one day perform on stage with Grace. Since then, Daniel has believed that he is part of Grace's life, despite her being 12 at the time and him being 17.  

Daniel first mentioned Grace online a few times in 2020; in one instance in November, he claimed that he would be collaborating with Grace on a Zoom meeting, which he was likely told by management at the time. When his Pinterest account was discovered, it was full of photos of her from her childhood.

Daniel, fully aware that Grace was under 18, made multiple posts claiming that he would, "...wait until Grace is 18." His claims about their relationship have shifted depending on his delusions at the time. When viewing it as romantic, Daniel refers to Grace as his girlfriend. When perceiving it as sexual, he has described explicit acts he wishes to engage in with her. Daniel even released a song about his "relationship" with her, with the most repeated word being "sex". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIBaMTLODM</ref>  

Daniel continues to insist that his obsession with Grace is not sexual, claiming instead that he simply "...wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref>  However, everything Daniel says about Grace should be taken with a huge grain of salt, as he has a tendency to internalize his delusions.                   

</gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard and has frequently targeted her with his obsessive behavior, similar to other figures he has fixated on, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram were frequently inundated with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a direct conversation with her in real time. Daniel repeatedly mentioned and tagged her in his own TikTok videos, causing her notifications to be dominated by his messages. This behavior persisted across nearly all of his TikTok accounts, eventually leading to the suspension of one due to repeated harassment. Shortly after, Grace filtered out terms in her comments, such as "Daniel Larson," "Mr. President," and "Danderson" from her TikTok comments to prevent further interaction. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>     

As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace shows no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of individuals impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in egregious and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content like [[The Toothbrush Incident]].  

Even during the [[Jail Arc]]'','' Daniel has mentioned Grace in phone conversations with Clark, seemingly believing that she might bail him out. While his Graceposting has eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. He still thinks about Grace while [[Second Jail Arc|incarcerated for federal crimes]], however the most recent time he mentioned her was in a letter in March 2025, saying that she was involved in the case. He has not mentioned her since.  

== Delusions ==

During one of his delusional episodes, Daniel, seemingly without access to his phone, posted on Likee, a short video creating platform he used while banned from TikTok, in despair and asking his followers to retrieve information from the 'VanderWaal Team'.

 

Daniel appeared to believe that an unspecified accident had occurred and that the VanderWaal family, whom he was convinced had been in contact with him, was withholding information about Grace. Throughout the video, he hit his head and made threats against his own life. This incident was particularly notable as it marked the first time Daniel had a meltdown online.

Despite his claims, he did not act on his threats, and once the episode subsided, he returned to his usual behavior. Daniel said that if he did not get into contact with the VanderWaal family, he would end up homeless. Though relatively minor at the time, this episode foreshadowed more severe delusional behavior in the future.

[[File:PregnantGrace.png|thumb|319x319px|Grace "pregnant" with Jacob's baby.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15t743z/jacob_sartorius_got_grace_pregnant/</ref>]]

[[July 24th Freak-out|On July 24th]], 2023, Daniel became convinced that Grace, whom he believed had been in a relationship with him until this point, had broken up with him as things were, "..moving too slow". Shortly after, he became fixated on the idea that she had started dating American social media personality and singer [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon believe that Jacob had impregnated Grace, and ordered her assassination by "[[Tyrone]]", all at the same time. Daniel's narrative regarding Jacob rapidly changed, at one point claiming that Jacob was harassing him, and later insisted that he was targeting Grace instead.  

=== Second TikTok Comment ===

On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote|I do not like this reference}}Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.