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{{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.|subject=Grace VanderWaal | {{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has endured years of harassment from both Daniel and his trolls, and has actively taken measures to stop it. She has already dealt with enough trolling and the death of her mother, so please be respectful.|subject=Grace VanderWaal, any of her family members or her boyfriend}}{{Stub}}{{Quote|...being a fan of a pedo that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success|4=Grace's first official comment on Daniel, 2024.}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|imageDesc=Photo example on how Daniel sees Grace.|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel|DOB=January 15, 2004|Nationality=American|Race=White|Gender=Female|Parents=[[Tina VanderWaal]] (Mother), Dave VanderWaal (Father)|Arcs=}} | ||
'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since his late teens. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> | '''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, who [[Daniel Larson]] has exhibited a persistent infatuation and unhealthy obsession with since his late teens. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> | ||
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On April 17, 2024, Grace publicly addressed Daniel in a comment on her TikTok account, calling him a "pedophile who has haunted her life". She subsequently filtered out mentions of his name from her comment sections. Messages to her mother indicate that Grace and her family do not wish to have contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. In response to continued references to him in the comment sections, Grace later disabled comments on her TikTok account entirely. | On April 17, 2024, Grace publicly addressed Daniel in a comment on her TikTok account, calling him a "pedophile who has haunted her life". She subsequently filtered out mentions of his name from her comment sections. Messages to her mother indicate that Grace and her family do not wish to have contact with Daniel or anybody associated with him. In response to continued references to him in the comment sections, Grace later disabled comments on her TikTok account entirely. | ||
Despite being told off by her mother, Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently, in late 2024, during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he still expressed his love for her in phone calls, even while incarcerated, and talked about her possibly bailing him out. | Despite being told off by her mother, Tina VanderWaal, thousands of people online, and even Grace herself, Daniel still deludes himself into believing he is truly dating Grace. Most recently, in late 2024, during the [[Second Jail Arc]], he still expressed his love for her in phone calls, even while incarcerated, and talked about her possibly bailing him out. When Daniel was released in 2026, he used his care provider's YouTube account to make comments on her videos. Despite being on medication and relatively calmer, he still desires to date Grace. During an [[September 1st Interview|interview]] with a fan, he encouraged Grace to contact him. | ||
Despite repeated warnings from countless people online, her mother Tina, her brother Jakob, and even Grace herself, Daniel continued to believe he was in a relationship with Grace. His delusions have persisted into his [[Second Jail Arc|incarceration]] due to many interactions with trolls. As of | Despite repeated warnings from countless people online, her mother Tina, her brother Jakob, and even Grace herself, Daniel continued to believe he was in a relationship with Grace. His delusions have persisted into his [[Second Jail Arc|incarceration]] due to many interactions with trolls. As of 2026, Daniel's head-canon is wanting to let go of his past, and get back with Grace. | ||
== Origins == | == Origins == | ||
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As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace showed no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of trolls impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in graphic and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content such as [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. While his Graceposting had eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. | As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace showed no signs of stopping. He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of trolls impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in graphic and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content such as [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. While his Graceposting had eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween. | ||
Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. | Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. | ||
== Grace and [[Pedophilia]] == | == Grace and [[Pedophilia]] == | ||
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However, the most recent time Daniel mentioned Grace was in a letter in March 2025, stating she was involved in the case, and has not mentioned her since. | However, the most recent time Daniel mentioned Grace was in a letter in March 2025, stating she was involved in the case, and has not mentioned her since. | ||
== Post-Release == | |||
When Daniel was released from prison in July 2026, he was on medication and was much calmer, but his obsession with Grace persisted. Daniel used his care provider's YouTube account to make comments on her music videos. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1vey49s/all_of_daniel_larsons_current_comments_under_one/</ref> | |||
== Contact == | == Contact == | ||
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=== Jakob VanderWaal === | === Jakob VanderWaal === | ||
Daniel's extreme obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him | Daniel's extreme obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him on or around January 1, 2022. He confronted Daniel, telling him to leave her and their family alone, and were considering putting a restraining order against him with the threat of building a criminal case. Daniel had an intense reaction to this confrontation, as he went to the hospital and at one point, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref> | ||
=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] === | === [[Tina VanderWaal]] === | ||
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{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | {{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | ||
Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. Tina replied multiple times in this thread, telling him to take control of his life, calling out all his delusions and telling him for the final time to stop harassing Grace. This is the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel regarding Grace. | Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. Tina replied multiple times in this thread, telling him to take control of his life, calling out all his delusions and telling him for the final time to stop harassing Grace. This is the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel regarding Grace before her death in October 2025. | ||
=== Grace Rape Troll === | === Grace Rape Troll === | ||
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Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments. | Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments. | ||
=== | === 2025 TikTok Comments === | ||
On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote|I do not like this reference}}Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before. | On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote|I do not like this reference}} | ||
Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before. The same day on another post, a comment asked, | |||
{{Quote|are we aware of daniel larson}} | |||
She bluntly replied, <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@user4602508883137/video/7575810850477427998</ref> | |||
{{Quote|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}} | |||
On January 6, 2026, through another post she made, a user commented; | |||
{{Quote|betwee daniel larson and now this, girl you deserve compensation for everything you've been through}} | |||
Grace replied, further adding to the notion that Daniel is part of the reason why she is struggling; | |||
{{Quote|I’m definitely at a breaking point!}} | |||
In recent months, Grace has opened up about her own struggles with mental health issues and her time in rehabilitation. The death of her mother and continued comments about Daniel contributed to her declining mental health and also led to the cancellation of her upcoming Europe tour. <ref>https://larsonleak.net/leakweek/grace-vanderwaal-is-struggling-and-we-want-her-to-be-okay</ref> | |||
However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.''' | However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.''' | ||