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== Prior Events == | == Prior Events == | ||
Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violated a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref> | Sometime in December 2021, Grace's brother Jakob VanderWaal had messaged Daniel, confronting him and telling him to leave the family alone, with the threat of a criminal case if he violated a restraining order.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/do_you_guys_think_grace_is_even_aware_of_who/</ref> Daniel, who was in the hospital after seeing these messages, began to have a meltdown and hit his head violently.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/18dsd5s/has_anyone_seen_the_jakob_vanderwaal_msgs_that/</ref> | ||
== | == Correspondence with Daniel == | ||
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]] | |||
=== Instagram DMs === | |||
On or around July 23, 2022, Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace. The "Graces" in question were actually catfishes made up by trolls. | On or around July 23, 2022, Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace. The "Graces" in question were actually catfishes made up by trolls. | ||
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Daniel would mention this comment in the first call during [[Jail Arc 2]]. | Daniel would mention this comment in the first call during [[Jail Arc 2]]. | ||
== YouTube Comment == | === YouTube Comment === | ||
On August 13, 2022, the YouTube account [https://www.youtube.com/@waalstudio_art "Waal Studio"] left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago; however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. Frustrated, she warns Daniel once again to stop mentioning Grace (and her family), stating that the other accounts under her name are trolls. | On August 13, 2022, the YouTube account [https://www.youtube.com/@waalstudio_art "Waal Studio"] left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago; however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. Frustrated, she warns Daniel once again to stop mentioning Grace (and her family), stating that the other accounts under her name are trolls. | ||
{{Quote|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}} | {{Quote|"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."}} | ||
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I am so sorry for everything"}} | I am so sorry for everything"}} | ||
== Contact with Fan == | === Contact with Fan === | ||
On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram, asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he was talking about Grace a lot and had delusions that he would definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref> | On December 5, 2022, a Reddit user reached out to Tina on Instagram, asking if she was aware of Daniel and warning her that he was talking about Grace a lot and had delusions that he would definitely meet her. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref> | ||
{{Quote|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}} | {{Quote|"Are you aware of Daniel Larson?"}} | ||
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The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read and did not reply to the message. | The next day, the user warned her out of concern for the VanderWaal family due to his unhealthy obsession with Grace. <blockquote>{{Quote|"I'm sorry to reach out to you like this. It seems like it's getting out of hand. I'm very concerned with your safety as well as the rest of the family. This man posts every day how he wants to get in contact with you and a woman named Grace in the family. I watch him on YouTube and he is very convinced he is going to meet everyone."}}</blockquote>Tina responded the next day, revealing that she did, in fact, contact the FBI about him.<blockquote>{{Quote|"There is nothing we can do. I have talked to the Denver Police and the Denver and local FBI. They say we have no recourse unless he makes actual threats."}}</blockquote>The next morning, the user sent a screenshot with Daniel being VERY confident that he will date Grace and that she will regret it if she does not date him. Tina left the user on read and did not reply to the message. | ||
== Second YouTube Video == | === Second YouTube Video === | ||
On March 26, 2023, 7 months after Tina's last response, Daniel Larson NYC posted a short titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." He says that Tina and Dave told him he was safe from the FBI and police if he stayed in contact with them. However, Tina, using the Waal Studio account, is clearly angry and scolds him to stop talking about the family once again with the threat of being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> It is also possible she was warned about Daniel making a trip to New York City in the coming weeks, for fear he would find Grace. | On March 26, 2023, 7 months after Tina's last response, Daniel Larson NYC posted a short titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." He says that Tina and Dave told him he was safe from the FBI and police if he stayed in contact with them. However, Tina, using the Waal Studio account, is clearly angry and scolds him to stop talking about the family once again with the threat of being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> It is also possible she was warned about Daniel making a trip to New York City in the coming weeks, for fear he would find Grace. | ||
{{Quote|"Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us. | {{Quote|"Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us. | ||
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{{Quote|"Please help I really really am trying. Please just understand this is serious and I just want you to understand what I am going through. Please give me a chance. I turned of my TikTok comments. I can't stop crying today"}} | {{Quote|"Please help I really really am trying. Please just understand this is serious and I just want you to understand what I am going through. Please give me a chance. I turned of my TikTok comments. I can't stop crying today"}} | ||
== YouTube Community Tab Posts | === YouTube Community Tab Posts === | ||
==== First Interaction ==== | |||
On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help with donations, using a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace: | On March 27, 2023, Daniel Larson NYC posted on his community tab to help with donations, using a Cash App link. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref>Tina, using the Waal Studio account from above, warned his followers that they are assisting in committing a crime, assuming the Cash App was to help him get to Grace: | ||
{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | {{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | ||
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Tina ignored all these comments. | Tina ignored all these comments. | ||
=== Final Interaction === | ==== Final Interaction ==== | ||
On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025. | On the same day, Daniel posted, "I gave Waal studios my phone number". <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxPKKbsqqa0916NDAJJ_JDsUjyukyk5QW1</ref>Tina would respond, annoyed and in disbelief. This is also the last message Tina ever sent to Daniel before her death in October 2025. | ||
{{Quote|"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."}} | {{Quote|"No Daniel you didn’t. I’m never going to get through to you am I? It is mind boggling to me how you can rationalize anything and everything."}} | ||