Halloween Jail Call
Daniel called Lil Sippy on October 31, 2024. [1] He believes Bob is ruining his life.
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Automated voice: To block this call- *Lil Sippy presses 5* You may begin speaking now. Lil Sippy: What's good! Hello? Daniel: Hey! I don't have long to talk, I only have about two minutes I can talk. [video cuts] Daniel: Yeah, and then also I tried to talk to Bob earlier today about me and my release, seeing if he can, or seeing if I can get out in November instead of December because if I get released in December, let's just say, then I'm not gonna have time before Christmas to get my new state ID and to get back on my feet, even though I have money in my bank account now because I've been in custody. Lil Sippy: Yeah. *coughs* Daniel: And Bob was trying to say on the phone that like, yeah I have money in my bank account but I'm still going to need help financially because it's not, um, it's not a lot of money, it's like one month of an apartment... Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: ...which he needs to realize, right? And I don't think a lot of people realize this, I don't even think my fanbase realizes this. When I was traveling across the United States, even though Bob paid for like, the big airplane tickets and stuff like that, I was paying, I was paying for the Greyhound tickets, I was paying for food, I was paying for hotels, I was paying the majority and I, uh- this year I've lost so much money that I've not been making because I've been in custody, it's no longer a joke. I was- if I was out right now, all year I would have probably been in like, the upper uh... six digits in my income by now, like no joke because that's how much I was making. Lil Sippy: Oh wow. Like a mil- looks like, like hundreds of thousands of dollars? Daniel: Yeah, hundreds of thousands of dollars because I was making, I was making like, back in 2022 when Bob wasn't even helping, I was making the most money. Lil Sippy: *coughs* OK. Daniel: And as soon as I asked Bob to try to help get me in an apartment, even one month and he denied it, we argued and he ended up saying he was going to pay for hotel rooms. Well, Lil Sippy: Well, I mean Grace like, Grace has a lot of money, why don't you- you don't think Grace would pay for anything? Daniel: Tina won't let her. Lil Sippy: Oh man, Tina again. OK Daniel: Tina just won't- Tina won't do anything and Tina won't let Grace help, it's been an issue. Lil Sippy: It's crazy. Daniel: The thing is, I'm to a point I am, my life is being destroyed by Bob at this point, and I don't think he realizes it. Lil Sippy: Bob is destroying your life? I thought Bob was helping you. Daniel: He was helping me previously but it's to a point that he's saying things that without enough information, and talking to people behind my back like my lawyer, and I'm already deemed incompetent, if you know what I mean. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: I- I'm to a point I feel like nobody even cares, you know? People just want me and my career over and I would have been doing fine if Bob would've just, you know, got the apartment one month way back last year because when I started going from the street to the hotel, to the street to the hotel... Lil Sippy: Yeah. ...my fans were confused, And it's similar to the news, right? When the fans are confused or the world is confused, they don't know what to believe and so eventually, people fall off the board, you know, people fall off the market. Lil Sippy: Yeah. One sec.. Daniel: And you have to- you have to something built that the fans can believe, and right now Bob is completely destroying that reputation. Lil Sippy: Bob is destroying a reputation? What has he been doing? Daniel: He's- like I said, he's been paying for the hotel rooms, he's been putting money on my books, he's now to a point where he's arguing about- Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Daniel: Now to a point to where he's arguing about the amount that he's putting on my books and saying that like, he can't do it that much more, it- it's to a point I was doing better financially and being able to support myself when he wasn't helping at all, when he was just a friend. Lil Sippy: Wow. Daniel: And- and I feel like that financial aspect when he was paying for the hotel rooms and now to the point where he's saying, "I don't know if, you know, 'cause you're going to need financial help", no I don't, because if I was making enough in 2022 to be able to travel across the United States, I definitely had enough money to get on my feet. Lil Sippy: So, I thought- but you're saying you're making money while you're in jail now, right? Daniel: Only because of him and my music distribution. If was out this year, this entire year, I would've made probably... I want to say six to seven songs by now. I was already, um, in my bank account I had $100 saved and I only needed 100 more and I was averaging 100 in saving a week to be able to get into the recording studio. I only needed 200 more, that's only two weeks. Lil Sippy: Well, that's just the studio. You gotta think about housing too, though. Daniel: Right, but I was saying that like, I would've already had housing by now with the amount that I would have been making. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: I've used the calculator in the jail, I've added everything up. The amount Bob was giving me versus what I can make and then the hotel rooms versus what I can make, and then the hotel rooms vs. the apartment, the apartment would have been a whole lot cheaper. Lil Sippy: So... so it's Bob's fault that you're in jail too though, right? Daniel: It's yes and no. I want to say that he's a big factor in my fan base falling apart because he was keeping me homeless at the time, and when my fans started seeing me on the streets vs the hotel back and forth, I was losing fans. Lil Sippy: Yeah. So, if he would've just... Daniel: That's a big factor in all the manipulation towards me. Lil Sippy: So, if Bob would've just stepped up to the plate and given you enough money for housing, then... Daniel: My fans probably would not have thought I was crazy and would not have manipulated me. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: When the fans saw that I was being on the street homeless and I was getting hotel rooms, everybody was asking me. Fans were coming up to me saying, "Where are you getting this money? Is Bob giving it to you?" and I said yes. And then at that point, it just got worse and then over time, fans were thinking I wasn't capable of anything and they didn't know that the money Bob was giving to me, a majority of it, I was saving behind Bob's back, and as soon as Bob found out, he would stop paying me. He would stop paying for hotels and then I would be back on the street, and then I would end up losing followers again. Lil Sippy: And it all makes sense now, it does. You make a good argument for it all being, uh, Bob's fault. You know, I never looked at it from that angle before. Daniel: Right, and in the end- in the end, Grace was just telling me like, "Hey, you need to do this, you need to do that. You need to get this done." I was trying to do that all along, and Bob and the FBI agents were telling me I was never in contact with Grace. Lil Sippy: *overtalking* Well why do you think they were telling you that? Daniel: I feel like if Bob would've known as well that if Grace was in contact all along and was able to verify it, Bob would have gotten the apartment. Lil Sippy: What do you think their motives for telling you that uh, Grace- you were never in contact with Grace's... well, why would they tell you that? Daniel: *sighs* I think it was because Tina, I think Tina just didn't really like me because I was homeless and she wanted somebody for Grace that could actually take care of her as well, and somebody mature. Lil Sippy: But I don't think Grace really cares about any of that. Grace just, uh, I think it feels like she wants you. She doesn't care about somebody rich or what anything like that. Daniel: I'm saying that from Tina's perspective. Lil Sippy: Yeah, OK. Yeah. Daniel: But, but yeah I- I think everything is messed up. I've been listening to the news and I've been seeing how um, uh, the entire trash America thing on TV right now on Fox News, trash America. Lil Sippy: Oh, yeah. Daniel: And Trump in the tri- pickup truck. Lil Sippy: Yeah, Trump- [video cuts] Lil Sippy: ...that he was doing well. Yup. Daniel: Yeah, well the crazy thing is I feel that way about America right now. I literally, I'm just to a point to where it's like, everybody in my life at the time, the VanderWaals should've stepped up, Bob should've just went and got the hotel, I mean the apartment, not the hotel room, but just went and got the apartment, paid one month, that's 30 days of my fans and getting spotted in public I could have saved up money for the next month. And instead I was paying for $100 to $200 for a hotel room a day, and an apartment is only $2000 a month. Lil Sippy: Yeah. You can get cheaper apartments than that, but yeah. Daniel: Right, you can get cheaper apartments, so I'm just saying that is extreme manipulation financially when it comes to my fanbase. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: And I don't think Bob realized. But anyways, I gotta go, they're locking us down. Lil Sippy: Alright, have a good night man. Daniel: Alright, bye. Lil Sippy: Alright, bye. |