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File:Danieldenying2.png|Daniel denying his pedophilic attraction to Grace. | File:Danieldenying2.png|Daniel denying his pedophilic attraction to Grace. | ||
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</gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard. Grace is oftentimes the primary victim of Daniel's delusional harassment like other figures, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram would be filled to the brim with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a conversation with her in real time. Daniel would mention Grace in TikTok videos and tag her, which | </gallery>Daniel holds Grace in particularly high regard. Grace is oftentimes the primary victim of Daniel's delusional harassment like other figures, most notably [[Bob Proctor]]. Posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram would be filled to the brim with comments from Daniel, as if he were having a conversation with her in real time. Daniel would mention Grace in TikTok videos and tag her, which resulted in her notifications filling up with nothing but Daniel. He did this on almost every TikTok account he has, to the point where one of Daniel's TikTok accounts was suspended for his constant harassment towards her.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref> | ||
As of 2024, Daniel shows no signs of stopping his obsession with her. He is still constantly falling for trolls' claims about Grace, along with agreeing with the orders of people who pretend to be Grace, who get him to do egregious and disturbing things, which cause the production of NSFW videos like the [[Pencil incident|Pencil Incident]]. Even though his Graceposting has eased up, it has never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's current head-canon is that he and Grace are periodically breaking up and getting back together, with no inbetween. | As of 2024, Daniel shows no signs of stopping his obsession with her. He is still constantly falling for trolls' claims about Grace, along with agreeing with the orders of people who pretend to be Grace, who get him to do egregious and disturbing things, which cause the production of NSFW videos like the [[Pencil incident|Pencil Incident]]. Even though his Graceposting has eased up, it has never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's current head-canon is that he and Grace are periodically breaking up and getting back together, with no inbetween. | ||
Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. | |||
== Delusions == | == Delusions == | ||
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On the Fourth of July, 2021, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of Grace's father, Dave, and Grace herself. | On the Fourth of July, 2021, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of Grace's father, Dave, and Grace herself. | ||
In this video, Daniel believed that Grace had simultaneously | In this video, Daniel believed that Grace had simultaneously committed suicide and suffered a heart attack. Before Daniel addressed their deaths, he began to cry, hysterically apologizing for sexting minors and sending Grace (or whoever he thought was Grace) pictures of his genitals. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref> | ||
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It may seem as though the true and honest death of Grace brought about a repentant moment in this particular arc. However, the moment faded quickly as Daniel soon discovered that Grace had not died, and thus resumed his regular obsessive posting about her. | It may seem as though the true and honest death of Grace brought about a repentant moment in this particular arc. However, the moment faded quickly as Daniel soon discovered that Grace had not died, and thus resumed his regular obsessive posting about her (and sexting "her" in private dms). | ||
==== [[Tyrone]] ==== | ==== [[Tyrone]] ==== | ||
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== Contact == | == Contact == | ||
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]] | [[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]] | ||
While it is likely that Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has never publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is likely that Grace simply does not want to give any of these people attention, mainly Daniel, as he feeds off of it. Some believe that Grace has stopped posting to her TikTok due to Daniel's (along with many others) harassment, although this is unconfirmed. | While it is extremely likely that Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has never publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is likely that Grace simply does not want to give any of these people attention, mainly Daniel, as he feeds off of it. Some believe that Grace has stopped posting to her TikTok due to Daniel's (along with many others) harassment, although this is unconfirmed. | ||
=== Tina VanderWaal === | === [[Tina VanderWaal]] Contact === | ||
Daniel's obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022. | Daniel's obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022. | ||
Tina, through Instagram, demanded that Daniel stop making contact with her family, especially her daughter, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Tina then claimed to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refused to stop making videos and posts about Grace she would make the issue a legal matter and get Daniel arrested. Tina's threats haven't been followed through, and | Tina, through Instagram, demanded that Daniel stop making contact with her family, especially her daughter, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Tina then claimed to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refused to stop making videos and posts about Grace she would make the issue a legal matter and get Daniel arrested. Tina's threats haven't been followed through, and it has been called into question if this was simply an empty threat or something she actually did. | ||
Daniel responded to her messages by stating that he understands, and, more importantly, will be commiting suicide that night. He, of course, does not; and most likely threatened suicide to guilt-trip her or gain attention. | Daniel responded to her messages by stating that he understands, and, more importantly, will be commiting suicide that night. He, of course, does not; and most likely threatened suicide to guilt-trip her or gain attention. | ||
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{{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | {{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | ||
Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, claiming things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and that he's misunderstood. He has not received a response. As of | Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, claiming things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and that he's misunderstood. He has not received a response. As of 2024, this was the last message that Tina has verifiably sent to Daniel.<gallery widths="250" heights="250"> | ||
File:Image.png|Gallery of all of Tina's comments to Daniel/His responses. Read from right to left. | File:Image.png|Gallery of all of Tina's comments to Daniel/His responses. Read from right to left. | ||
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Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace Vanderwaal; the person behind this number has yet to be identified. | Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace Vanderwaal; the person behind this number has yet to be identified. | ||
In these texts, "Grace" claimed that she was, oddly enough, at the White House, getting sexually assaulted by her father along with being impregnated by multiple other people. Daniel believed this to be genuine, responding by attempting to convince "Grace" to move out to Denver (where he resided | In these texts, "Grace" claimed that she was, oddly enough, at the White House, getting sexually assaulted by her father along with being impregnated by multiple other people. Daniel believed this to be genuine, responding by attempting to convince "Grace" to move out to Denver (where he resided at the time) so that she could press charges on her father and live with Daniel. | ||
The messages started off with Daniel genuinely caring for "Grace's" wellbeing, asking what he can do to help, to Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped, and what she thought about during it''''', absolutely desperate to imagine Grace performing intercourse. He claimed to have asked these questions in order to use the information gathered by them in court, although this is obviously unlikely as nothing happened following this. | The messages started off with Daniel genuinely caring for "Grace's" wellbeing, asking what he can do to help, to Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped, and what she thought about during it''''', absolutely desperate to imagine Grace performing intercourse. He claimed to have asked these questions in order to use the information gathered by them in court, although this is obviously unlikely as nothing happened following this. | ||
Whenever this fake Grace would talk about allegedly getting raped, they said that it was being recorded and uploaded to some type of social media or pornographic website. Daniel wanted to know where he could find this footage. After this, Daniel went on to make multiple videos claiming that he had called the police to deal with this matter. Considering his past behavior, and history of wasting emergency services, he likely did call the authorities.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref> | Whenever this fake Grace would talk about allegedly getting raped, they said that it was being recorded and uploaded to some type of social media or pornographic website. Daniel wanted to know where he could find this footage. After this, Daniel went on to make multiple videos claiming that he had called the police to deal with this matter. Considering his past behavior, and history of wasting emergency services, he likely did actually call the authorities.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref> | ||
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There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he won't change. Because of Daniel's delusions, he will likely go on thinking that Grace loves him and that everyone else is a liar. This response, if authentic, would only inspire Daniel to keep trying as his efforts have proven successful in making her aware of him. | There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he won't change. Because of Daniel's delusions, he will likely go on thinking that Grace loves him and that everyone else is a liar. This response, if authentic, would only inspire Daniel to keep trying as his efforts have proven successful in making her aware of him. | ||
However, it is likely that these messages are fake. This same user had already faked posts from Grace's Instagram in order to trick Daniel, thus any other media coming from U/TMZ_news should be taken with a grain of salt. Until more evidence comes out, it is safe to assume that the exchange pictured above is faked. | However, it is extremely likely that these messages are fake. This same user had already faked posts from Grace's Instagram in order to trick Daniel, thus any other media coming from U/TMZ_news should be taken with a grain of salt. Until more evidence comes out, it is safe to assume that the exchange pictured above is faked. | ||
However, the overarching fact remains that Grace and her family want ''nothing'' to do with Daniel. '''Do not contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.''' | However, the overarching fact remains that Grace and her family want ''nothing'' to do with Daniel. '''Do not contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.''' | ||
== References == | == References == | ||