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'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (Born January 15th, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> whom [[Daniel Larson]] has had an obsession with since as early as 2021, despite her being notably underage. Daniel's obsession with Grace began during his hyper-fixation with fame and his desire to date a celebrity, namely during the time when he would watch America's Got Talent with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]], during his childhood. Ever since then, Daniel has been attracted to her, despite at the time of his infatuation, being [[Pedophilia|underage]]. Daniel is [[Pedophilia|physically attracted]] to Grace and ever since his infatuation with her started, he has decided, without her knowledge or consent, that they are dating. This 'relationship' would progress quickly due to Daniel's delusions (mostly fed by fake managers and trolls), leading to his posts on his [[Social Media Accounts|numerous social media accounts]] regarding her becoming far more explicit in nature, including but not limited to Daniel divulging sexual fantasies about Grace and the various unspeakable acts he'd commit towards her if he were to come into contact with her.
'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (Born January 15th, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> whom [[Daniel Larson]] has had an obsession with since as early as 2021, despite her being notably underage. Daniel's obsession with Grace began during his hyper-fixation with fame and his desire to date a celebrity, namely during the time when he would watch America's Got Talent with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]], during his childhood. Ever since then, Daniel has been attracted to her, despite at the time of his infatuation, being [[Pedophilia|underage]]. Daniel is [[Pedophilia|physically attracted]] to Grace and ever since his infatuation with her started, he has decided, without her knowledge or consent, that they are dating. This 'relationship' would progress quickly due to Daniel's delusions (mostly fed by fake managers and trolls), leading to his posts on his [[Social Media Accounts|numerous social media accounts]] regarding her becoming far more explicit in nature, including but not limited to Daniel divulging sexual fantasies about Grace and the various unspeakable acts he'd commit towards her if he were to come into contact with her.


Daniel, well aware that Grace was only 17 at the start of his obsession, made various posts claiming that he would "wait until Grace is 18". Daniel has claimed to be in either a romantic or sexual relationship with Grace depending on his feelings (or delusions) at the time. If romantic, he claimed that Grace was his girlfriend. If sexual, he explains the various explicit sexual acts he'd do to her. Even so, no matter what he is feeling, It is extremely disturbing no matter what. Daniel still tries to claim that he does not like Grace for sexual reasons, but because he "wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref> This is very obviously untrue.
Grace has never publicly acknowledged Daniel, but according to messages from her mother, Tina VanderWaal, she wants nothing to do with him, which is highly believable. Grace is often impersonated by trolls, who use her identity to gain Daniel's trust. Daniel is easily fooled by this due to either his sickening lust for her or his obvious mental issues. On multiple occasions, Daniel has made a fool of himself by talking to these trolls and sending revealing, and even illegal, material to them. Even when acknowledging that there are multiple people pretending to be Grace to gain his trust, he never manages to completely acknowledge that these people are actually trolls, lest he have to accept that Grace and her family are absolutely horrified by Daniel and want nothing to do with him.  
 
Despite the fact he likely has internalized the real VanderWaal's are extremely scared of him, he still reposts photos of Grace on Instagram and is still known to comment on her various platforms.  
 
== The Start ==
[[File:DanielGrace.png|thumb| Daniel Vs. The Girl he thinks he's dating. He still thinks he can get with her.|left]]
 


Beginning on May 12th, 2021, Daniel claimed, though obviously untrue, that he and Grace had some sort of collaboration in the works that would be coming out soon. Eventually, he made a TikTok announcing that he was dating her. Things escalated quickly from there. Daniel, on several occasions, recorded himself telling random strangers on the streets that he was dating her. More disturbingly, Daniel recorded multiple videos of himself moaning and whispering in a sensual manner that was supposedly for her. He posted hysterical videos about her allegedly "breaking up" with him. Although Daniel would make several apologies for the multiple sexually charged videos he made about her, he would continue with this undeniably disgusting behavior. Regardless of malicious [[Manipulators|trolls]] tricking and persuading him into thinking that he was dating Grace, and ultimately engendering his delusions of being with her, Daniel went above and beyond to show his unbridled obsession with her.
Beginning on May 12th, 2021, Daniel claimed, though obviously untrue, that he and Grace had some sort of collaboration in the works that would be coming out soon. Eventually, he made a TikTok announcing that he was dating her. Things escalated quickly from there. Daniel, on several occasions, recorded himself telling random strangers on the streets that he was dating her. More disturbingly, Daniel recorded multiple videos of himself moaning and whispering in a sensual manner that was supposedly for her. He posted hysterical videos about her allegedly "breaking up" with him. Although Daniel would make several apologies for the multiple sexually charged videos he made about her, he would continue with this undeniably disgusting behavior. Regardless of malicious [[Manipulators|trolls]] tricking and persuading him into thinking that he was dating Grace, and ultimately engendering his delusions of being with her, Daniel went above and beyond to show his unbridled obsession with her.


Daniel seems to hold Grace in particularly high regard. Thus, Grace is oftentimes the primary victim of Daniel's harassment and delusions. Every once in a while, posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram would be filled to the brim with comments from Daniel as if he were having a conversation with her in real time. Furthermore, in any TikTok posts that Daniel made that regarded Grace, he would tag her, which would result in her notifications being filled with nothing but Daniel. One of Daniel's TikTok accounts was suspended for his constant harassment towards her.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>[[File:DanielGrace.png|thumb| Daniel Vs. The Girl he thinks he's dating. He still thinks he can get with her.|left]]During one particular delusion, Daniel, seemingly because he is without access to his phone, posts on TikTok for people to get him information. Based on the content of these videos, he is under the impression that there has been some kind of accident and that the VanderWaal family, whom he believes were in contact with him up until this point, is refusing to give him information regarding something he claims to have happened to Grace. Throughout the video, Daniel hits himself and threatens to end his own life. He did not follow through with his threats.
Daniel, well aware that Grace was only 17 at the start of his obsession, made various posts claiming that he would "wait until Grace is 18". Daniel has claimed to be in either a romantic or sexual relationship with Grace depending on his feelings (or delusions) at the time. If romantic, he claimed that Grace was his girlfriend. If sexual, he explains the various explicit sexual acts he'd do to her. Even so, no matter what he is feeling, It is extremely disturbing no matter what. Daniel still tries to claim that he does not like Grace for sexual reasons, but because he "wants to have a chance" with her.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/123yv4y/daniel_denies_pedophilia/</ref> This is very obviously untrue, and furthermore, everything Daniel says about Grace should be taken with a huge grain of salt as he has a penchant for lying and internalizing his delusions.  


On the 4th of July 2021, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of both Dave, Grace's father, and Grace VanderWaal. In this video, Daniel believed that Grace had simultaneously committed suicide and suffered a heart attack. Before Daniel addresses the supposed deaths, however, he cried and apologized for sexting minors and sending Grace, or whoever he thought was Grace, pictures of his genitalia. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy, which is honestly laughable considering what he does on a daily basis.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref>  
Daniel seems to hold Grace in particularly high regard. Thus, Grace is oftentimes the primary victim of Daniel's harassment and delusions. Every once in a while, posts made by Grace on TikTok or Instagram would be filled to the brim with comments from Daniel as if he were having a conversation with her in real time. Furthermore, in any TikTok posts that Daniel made that regarded Grace, he would tag her, which would result in her notifications being filled with nothing but Daniel. He does this on almost every TikTok account he has, to the point where one of Daniel's TikTok accounts was suspended for his constant harassment towards her.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyEUscOr6A&feature=youtu.be</ref>


Eventually, Daniel discovered that Grace had not died, and continued his regular obsessive posting about her as if nothing had ever happened. Grace has never publicly acknowledged Daniel, but according to messages from her mother, Tina VanderWaal, she wants nothing to do with him, which is highly believable. Grace is often impersonated by trolls, who use her identity to gain Daniel's trust. Daniel is easily fooled by this due to either his sickening lust for her or his obvious mental issues. On multiple occasions, Daniel has made a fool of himself by talking to these trolls and sending revealing, and even illegal, material to them. Even when acknowledging that there are multiple people pretending to be Grace to gain his trust, he never manages to completely acknowledge that these people are actually trolls, lest he have to accept that Grace and her family are absolutely horrified by Daniel and want nothing to do with him.  
As of 2023, Daniel shows no signs of stopping his borderline obsession with her, constantly falling for trolls claims about Grace, and people who pretend to be Grace to get him to do egregious and quite frankly disturbing things. Even though as of recent his Grace-posting has seemed to dwindle, it has never truly died down or went away.  


Despite the fact he likely has internalized the real VanderWaal's are extremely scared of him, he still reposts photos of Grace on Instagram and is still known to comment on her various platforms.  
== Delusions ==
 
=== The Death(s) of Grace VanderWaal ===
 
==== The Likee Meltdown ====
For some reason, Daniel has had multiple delusions of Grace being in harm, in the hospital, or even dying. The reason for this is still unknown, although he is most likely fed these ideas by trolls and various fake Graces.
 
During one particular delusion, Daniel, seemingly because he is without access to his phone, posts on Likee, a TikTok clone that he stayed on during a period of time when he got banned from TikTok, for his followers to get him information. Based on the content of this videos, he is under the impression that there has been some kind of accident and that the VanderWaal family, whom he believes were in contact with him up until this point, is refusing to give him information regarding something he claims to have happened to Grace. Throughout the video, Daniel hits himself and threatens to end his own life. He did not follow through with his threats. Additionally, Daniel says that if he doesn't get into Contact with the VanderWaal family immediantly, he would allegedly be homeless and on the streets.<ref>https://archive.org/details/the-likee-meltdown</ref> This was a sign, although small, of things to come.
 
==== "Rest In Peace Dave and Grace VanderWaal" ====
Later, On the 4th of July 2021, Daniel uploaded a video to YouTube mourning the supposed deaths of both Dave, Grace's father, and Grace VanderWaal. In this video, Daniel believes that Grace had simultaneously commit suicide and suffered a heart attack. Before Daniel addresses the supposed deaths, however, he starts to cry hysterically, admitting and apologizing for sexting minors and sending Grace, or whoever he thought was Grace, pictures of his genitals. He promised to repent for the bad choices he had made and honor her legacy, which is honestly laughable considering what he does on a daily basis.<ref>https://archive.org/details/daniel-larson-mourning-grace-and-dace-vanderwaal</ref>
 
After the live stream ended, Daniel posted to his TikTok admitting he was a pedophile, for Graces "funeral", admitting that Grace was one of the minors he had supposedly sexted, with golden lines such as "I have sexted minors, 13 years old.. well I'm gonna be honest, 12 years old".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14fgywu/13_years_old_well_im_gonna_be_honest_12_years_old/</ref> The video ends with Daniel saying that he planned to move on by not doing things such as this anymore and putting in the work to become a better person for her, especially after her "death".
 
In a strange way, this delusion of thinking that Grace had passed away, but wanted Daniel to carry on her legacy, while Daniel also wanting to repent for his crimes against God and humanity managed to make him sound genuinely sorry for the bad choices he had made when it came to her, almost as if truly self aware. But as always, this did not last for long. 
 
Eventually, Daniel discovered that Grace had not died, and continued his regular obsessive posting about her as if nothing had ever happened without a second thought.   
 
=== Daniels Trek from Colorado to New York ===
 
 
While in contact with a another fake Grace account, Daniel was informed by this fake Grace that "she" had supposadly had sex with another man. Daniel, fueled by delusions, rage and obsession, decided to hike from Colorado to New York in a futile attempt to win her back, rambling and saying a series of various wild things on TikTok during the night while on his hike.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14a8u2n/an_old_underrated_moment_imo_after_a_fake_grace/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14ab7s3/continuation_from_my_previous_post_daniel_keeps/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14adymh/the_not_so_thrilling_conclusion_to_daniels_big/</ref>
 
In these Tiktoks, Daniel claimed that he had "officially fucked up" with Grace to the point she had broken up with him, sounding remarkably sober and in a rare moment of clarity, even saying that Grace was her own person and that she could date whoever she wanted to, and it was her choice if she wanted to date Daniel or not. Daniels reason for going to New York was to win back Graces love from whoever the fake Grace said she wa apparently having sex with, and trying to guilt trip her in these videos by saying that he had as "Heart disease from heartbreak" and in unneccesary, but preusumably fake, detail about how hard his childhood was.
 
As the video goes on, Daniel stays up through the entire night, to the point where you can see the sunrise in the video, determined to get to Grace no matter what or how much it takes. He continues to make wild claims and blatent lies during this walk, along with some karaoke. This walk ended with Daniel, not even 48 hours later, turning back to Denver as he either he got tired from walking, or possibly learning that the Grace who he had been speaking to the whole time was a troll.  


== Contact ==
== Contact ==
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]]
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]]
While it is highly likely she is aware of his existence, Grace has never publicly acknowledged Daniel despite thousands of spamming attempts and posts by Daniel and hundreds of [[trolls]] in both her TikTok and Instagram comments, most likely to not give any of these people attention which is undeniably the best route she can take. Because of this, it is theorized that Grace no longer posts to her TikTok because of this harassment.                 
While it is likely she is aware of his existence, Grace has never publicly acknowledged Daniel despite thousands of spamming attempts and posts by Daniel and hundreds of [[trolls]] in both her TikTok and Instagram comments, most likely to not give any of these people attention which is undeniably the best route she can take. Because of this, it is theorized that Grace no longer posts to her TikTok because of this harassment.                 


However, this obsession culminated into Daniel being contacted on July 25th 2022 by Grace's mother, Tina VanderWaal. Although, it was not on the best of terms. Tina, through Messenger, demands that Daniel stop making contact with her family, especially her daughter, and that all of Daniel's actions and feelings are in his own mind, calling out his obvious mental illnesses and delusions. Along with this, she claims to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refuses to stop making videos about her daughter, she would presumably press the issue to becoming a legal matter. This has still not happened and shows no sign of happening, presumably only being said in an attempt to get Daniel to stop which is not unreasonable, especially coming from the mother of a person who's been stalked by a mentally ill pedophile for almost half of her life. Following this, Daniel responds by stating that he understands but will be ending his life that night. He does not, most likely saying it as a way to guilt-trip her or gain attention.                 
However, this obsession culminated into Daniel being contacted on July 25th 2022 by Grace's mother, Tina VanderWaal. Although, it was not on the best of terms. Tina, through Messenger, demands that Daniel stop making contact with her family, especially her daughter, and that all of Daniel's actions and feelings are in his own mind, calling out his obvious mental illnesses and delusions. Along with this, she claims to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refuses to stop making videos about her daughter, she would presumably press the issue to becoming a legal matter. This has still not happened and shows no sign of happening, presumably only being said in an attempt to get Daniel to stop which is not unreasonable, especially coming from the mother of a person who's been stalked by a mentally ill pedophile for almost half of her life. Following this, Daniel responds by stating that he understands but will be ending his life that night. He does not, most likely saying it as a way to guilt-trip her or gain attention.                 
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This was the last message Grace sent before their exchange ended.  
This was the last message Grace sent before their exchange ended.


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There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he won't internalize it and blame it on trolls, or his past management, or literally use anyone he's met in his past as the scapegoat for Graces undeniable hatred for him. Because of Daniels delusions, he will go on to keep on thinking that Grace loves him and that everyone else is a liar, virtually unable to face the facts. Grace is within her full right to hate Daniel, when he's been sexually attracted to her since he was well past the age of 18 (the most egregious videos made of her were made when he was in his 20's, and when she was 17, mind you) and especially when he's done but terrorize her and her family, and inciting harassment whenever he comments on any of her posts.  
There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he won't internalize it and blame it on trolls, or his past management, or literally use anyone he's met in his past as the scapegoat for Graces undeniable hatred for him. Because of Daniels delusions, he will go on to keep on thinking that Grace loves him and that everyone else is a liar, virtually unable to face the facts. Grace is within her full right to hate Daniel, when he's been sexually attracted to her since he was well past the age of 18 (the most egregious videos made of her were made when he was in his 20's, and when she was 17, mind you) and especially when he's done but terrorize her and her family, and inciting harassment whenever he comments on any of her posts.