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[[File:Daniel Dog.jpg|thumb|An image of Music from the Longmont Humane Society's Facebook page.|377x377px]]
[[File:Daniel Dog.jpg|thumb|An image of <s>Music</s> Zola, from the Longmont Humane Society's Facebook page.|377x377px]]
On July 9, 2023, [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]] adopted a dog from [https://www.longmonthumane.org Longmont Humane Society] in Longmont, Colorado, naming her Music (formerly Zola). Daniel's reasoning for adopting this dog was his want for "security". He repeatedly claimed Music to be a "guard dog", when all the dog was in fact a regular housepet. Daniel's announcement of the adoption sparked intense outrage in the [[R/Daniellarson|Daniel Larson subreddit]] and other communities, with many users demanding the dog to be returned to the shelter due to Daniel's inability to financially support himself, let alone an animal. [[December 10th Incident|Daniel's violent tendencies]] towards people and property made Music a potential target in Daniel's next [[Meltdowns|meltdown.]] 
On July 9, 2023, [[Daniel Larson]] adopted a dog from [https://www.longmonthumane.org Longmont Humane Society] in Longmont, Colorado, which he then after named Music (formerly Zola). Daniel's reasoning for adopting this dog was his want, and furthermore, delusion, for "security". He repeatedly claimed Music to be a "guard dog", when, in reality, Zola was a regular house pet with no such capabilities.  


Not long after Daniel adopted <s>Zola</s> Music, a rescue mission was planned in a Discord server ran by the user Goated Mines and many other members of the /r/Daniellarson subreddit. Two days later on July 11th, WeenWeenMusic, or Ween, rescued Music from Daniel.   
Daniel's announcement of the adoption sparked intense outrage in the [[R/Daniellarson|Daniel Larson subreddit, /r/Daniellarson]] and other communities, along with sparking controversy as to if it was justified to take a homeless man’s dog, and questions regarding its legality.
 
Many users demanded the dog to be returned to the shelter due to factors such as Daniel's inability to financially support himself, a lack of a constant food source or shelter, his mental illnesses, and the general negligence he continues to exhibit. It was a reasonable fear, as Daniel cannot take care of himself, let alone an animal. Additionally, people feared that [[December 10th Incident|Daniel's violent tendencies]] towards people and property made Music a potential target in Daniel's next [[Meltdowns|meltdown,]] and could result in Daniel hurting the dog in a fit of rage, like he’s done to many others (namely, [[Bob Proctor]]). 
 
Not long after Daniel adopted <s>Zola</s> Music, many rescue missions were carried out by people such as [[Ox]], however the most notable one was carried out in a Discord server ran by YouTuber Goated Mines, and many other members of the /r/Daniellarson subreddit, such as Flexburger. Two days later on July 11th, WeenWeenMusic, or Ween, rescued Music from Daniel.   


Since the rescue, Daniel has expressed a desire to adopt a new animal several times. Despite this desire, he has not tried to adopt another animal.   
Since the rescue, Daniel has expressed a desire to adopt a new animal several times. Despite this desire, he has not tried to adopt another animal.   
== Background ==
== Background ==
Many weeks before the adoption occurred, Daniel stated that he wanted to adopt a dog. Many people considered the odds of Daniel ever adopting any sort of animal to be very slim, as Daniel cannot properly care for himself and is currently [[Homeless Arc|homeless.]] On many occasions, he has said that he has security and a team of people dedicated to protecting him. Daniel wanting to adopt a dog to protect him matches these delusions. 
Many weeks before the adoption occurred, Daniel stated that he wanted to adopt a dog. Many people considered the odds of Daniel ever adopting any sort of animal to be very slim, as Daniel cannot properly care for himself, and his [[Homeless Arc|homelessness would definitely play a factor in barring him from adopting any type of animal.]]   
During this time, Daniel had a [[Management|manager]] by the name of Warren, although at the time little was known about this person. Warren probably told Daniel to keep his (i.e. Daniel's) location a secret, mostly. This can be inferred from the amount of times Daniel was found lying about his location to throw people off of his scent. Additionally, Daniel was still using Cameo, which gave him plenty of money to adopt a dog. 
[[File:Longmont Worker Testimony.png|thumb|401x401px|A long Reddit post made by a worker of the Longmont Humane Society.|left]]On July 9th, 2023, Daniel adopted Music, a German Shepard mix, from the Longmont Humane Society, an animal shelter in Longmont, Colorado. It is not know how long Daniel was in Longmont, Colorado. Daniel's main reason for getting a dog was for it to act as security as a "guard dog". While Daniel was allowed to adopt and walk out of the shelter with her, workers and bystanders were concerned about Daniel getting a dog. [[File:Longmont Facebook Comment.png|thumb|A concerned bystanders comment who claims to have seen Daniel whilst adopting Music. ]]There was an attempt by Humane Society employees to slow down the adoption process, but they ultimately allowed Daniel to take Music with him. In a Reddit AMA post published on July 11th, 2023, a worker at the Longmont Humane Society admits that the animal shelter did not do any sort of background check on Daniel, and that people adopting animals lying about their living conditions was common at the shelter. They were horrified to find out who Daniel really was, presumably finding out about his colorful history online. Although they were disgusted with the way many members of the subreddit treated the workers and Longmont Humane Society as a whole, as most of the workers received low pay (or no pay at all) and only chose to stay there out of genuine love for animals, who now had to deal with several emergency service calls which resulted in first responders allegedly showing up because of swatting attempts or false bomb threats. Please note that a lot of the previous paragraph is unconfirmed.


The worker urged people to stop harassing the Humane Society, as they were actively working to fix the situation and initially were not aware of who Daniel was at the time of Music's adoption. Following the incident with Daniel, the society firmly states that background checks are now under serious review and that Daniel had been permanently banned. From what the shelter claimed later on, many people of Daniel's stature passed through and are perfectly capable of caring for dogs.<blockquote>'''''No, no background checks. There have been issues in the past with people lying about their living circumstances, but with more minor things (like whether their landlord allowed the specific dog breed, or the amount of space in the home) and the result was only that the dog was eventually returned when the adoptee belatedly realized that you can't accommodate a hundred-pound dog in a studio apartment. As far as I know, no one has yet had the audacity to just straight-up lie about having a home when they're homeless.'''''
On many occasions, he has said that he has security and a team of people dedicated to protecting him. Daniel wanting to adopt a dog to protect him matches these delusions. During this time, Daniel had a [[Management|manager]] by the name of Warren, although at the time little was known about this person. Warren probably told Daniel to keep his (i.e. Daniel's) location a secret, mostly. This can be inferred from the amount of times Daniel was found lying about his location to throw people off of his scent. Additionally, Daniel was still using Cameo, which gave him plenty of money to adopt a dog. 
[[File:Longmont Worker Testimony.png|thumb|401x401px|A long Reddit post made by a worker of the Longmont Humane Society.|left]]On July 9th, 2023, Daniel adopted Music, a German Shepard mix, from the Longmont Humane Society, an animal shelter in Longmont, Colorado. However, it is not know how long Daniel was in Longmont. Daniel's reasoning for getting a dog was for Music to act as security, more specifically as a "guard dog". While Daniel was allowed to adopt and walk out of the shelter with her, workers and bystanders were concerned about Daniel getting a dog, but nobody truly tried to stop him.  [[File:Longmont Facebook Comment.png|thumb|A concerned bystanders comment who claims to have seen Daniel whilst adopting Music. ]]There was an attempt by Humane Society employees to slow down the adoption process, but they ultimately allowed Daniel to take Music with him. In a Reddit AMA published on July 11th, 2023 by a worker at the Longmont Humane Society, they admit that the animal shelter did not do any sort of background check on Daniel.  


'''''Additionally, if it turns out that a "stray" brought to the shelter is owned and doesn't show any physiological signs of mistreatment or neglect, the animal must be returned to the owner after the recovery fee is paid. That unfortunately includes cases where the owner is homeless, living in their car, senile, etc. Remember that in the United States, companion animals are chattel. An animal doesn't legally belong to the shelter until they've been living there for a certain amount of time. When an animal finishes that wait period, they become "emancipated" and are then in the shelter's custody.'''''
The worker goes on to explain that people adopting animals lying about their living conditions was common at the shelter, and from what the shelter claimed later on, many people of Daniel's stature passed through and were perfectly capable of caring for dogs. This incident was simply a technical issue on their part.  


'''''I can assure you that the procedure is now under serious review. Also, the fact that Larson lied on his adoption form could potentially be grounds to dissolve the contract under which Zola was adopted to him.'''''<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/comment/jrlxqf9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref></blockquote>The adoption fee was likely around $100, which Daniel was easily able to afford due to his [[Cameo Arc|Cameo]].
After being informed of who Daniel was, they were horrified. Even with this information, they still expressed disgust with the way many members of the subreddit, and presumably people from other platforms, treated the workers and Longmont Humane Society as a whole. The worker went on to claim that most workers received low pay, or no pay at all, and only chose to stay there out of genuine love for animals, and now had to deal with several emergency service calls which resulted in first responders showing up due to swatting attempts, or false bomb threats. '''While extremely plausible, it’s worth noting that these events are unconfirmed, and should be taken with a grain of salt until further information proving these claims came forward.'''  


While the shelter did not allow homeless people to adopt, Daniel lied on his application saying that he lived in an RV, which allowed him to adopt Music as they took Daniel by his word. Even more confusingly, Music was later found to have [https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/giardia-in-dogs Giardia], a parasitic infection that affects the digestive system. Daniel would later claim that he got dry food for her, but no video or photo evidence of this would ever surface, which lead community members to question the validity of this. Daniel initially did not post about Music at all, only having her posted when a fan named Keith, who was in the area. He had taken a video while Daniel was seated at a Jimmy Johns, where he's seen talking to Daniel about his new "guard dog" while taunting [[World of T-Shirts|Joshua Block]]. After this fan interaction, Daniel would start posting videos of Music, which immediately sparked shock in the community when they realized that this was not someone else's dog, but a dog he had adopted himself.  {{#evt:
The worker urged people to stop harassing the Humane Society, as they were actively working to fix the situation, and, beforehand, they were not aware of dangerousness of the situation at the time of Music's adoption. Following the incident with Daniel, the society firmly stated that background checks were now under serious review, and confirming that Daniel had been permanently banned.
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Additionally, if it turns out that a "stray" brought to the shelter is owned and doesn't show any physiological signs of mistreatment or neglect, the animal must be returned to the owner after the recovery fee is paid. That unfortunately includes cases where the owner is homeless, living in their car, senile, etc. Remember that in the United States, companion animals are chattel. An animal doesn't legally belong to the shelter until they've been living there for a certain amount of time. When an animal finishes that wait period, they become "emancipated" and are then in the shelter's custody.
 
I can assure you that the procedure is now under serious review. Also, the fact that Larson lied on his adoption form could potentially be grounds to dissolve the contract under which Zola was adopted to him. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14x7n02/comment/jrlxqf9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3]|2=Longmont Humane Society worker, responding to a comment.}}
The adoption fee was likely around $100, which Daniel was easily able to afford due to his then active [[Cameo Arc|Cameo]]. While the shelter did not allow homeless people to adopt, Daniel lied on his application saying that he lived in an RV, which allowed him to adopt Music as they took Daniel by his word. Even more confusingly, Music was later found to have [https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/giardia-in-dogs Giardia], a parasitic infection that affects the digestive system. Daniel would later claim that he got dry food for her, but no video or photo evidence of this would ever surface, which lead community members to question the validity of this. Daniel initially did not post about Music at all, only having her posted when a fan named Keith, who was in the area. He had taken a video while Daniel was seated at a Jimmy Johns, where he's seen talking to Daniel about his new "guard dog" while taunting [[World of T-Shirts|Joshua Block]]. After this fan interaction, Daniel would start posting videos of Music, which immediately sparked shock in the community when they realized that this was not someone else's dog, but a dog he had adopted himself.  {{#evt:
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Daniel cited that his reason for adopting Music was for her to act “as a guard dog”, seemingly believing that she was trained as such and would protect him. Daniel also frequently referred to her as a male. This may seem like an insignificant error, however a dog's gender is actually important information, mostly for medical reasons such as if it has to receive shots or any significant medical treatment.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/live/k5rBVbJmEd4?feature=share</ref>
Daniel cited that his reason for adopting Music was for her to act “as a guard dog”, seemingly believing that she was trained as such and would protect him. Daniel also frequently referred to her as a male. This may seem like an insignificant error, however a dog's gender is actually important information, mostly for medical reasons such as if it has to receive shots or any significant medical treatment.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/live/k5rBVbJmEd4?feature=share</ref>


Daniel severely underfed Music, only giving her small amounts of food and water. In a reply to a comment on his YouTube channel, Daniel had noted that Music was not an, "...extreme cuddle bug," referencing that she had not wanted to touch or be near him. <blockquote>
Daniel severely underfed Music, only giving her small amounts of food and water. In a reply to a comment on his YouTube channel, Daniel had noted that Music was not an, "...extreme cuddle bug," referencing that she had not wanted to touch or be near him.  
 
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Yes he [''sic''] has[.] I have [purchased] a water bowl [for her] yesterday for $4 from PetSmart and I got her everything we need right now[.] I was watching [her] last night and [''sic''] just [to see] how she was acting[.] I am thinking [about] getting [her] like a small blanket to use as like a [''sic''] extra type of cover so things don't get in her eyes[.]
Yes he [''sic''] has[.] I have [purchased] a water bowl [for her] yesterday for $4 from PetSmart and I got her everything we need right now[.] I was watching [her] last night and [''sic''] just [to see] how she was acting[.] I am thinking [about] getting [her] like a small blanket to use as like a [''sic''] extra type of cover so things don't get in her eyes[.]