May 1st Jail Call
On May 1, 2024, one day after Daniel was arrested, he was placed in Clear Creek County Jail and made his first call to Clark. In this call, Daniel drops the bombshell that he has been charged with 7 counts of interstate communication of threats, and is now deemed a flight risk.
The call was uploaded on May 2, 2024.
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Automated voice: ...call, please hang up and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To consent to this recorded call, press 1. To disconnect... *Clark presses 1* Automated voice: Thank you for using [REDACTED]. You may start the conversation now. Daniel: Hello? Clark: Dan? Jesus Christ, Daniel! Daniel: Hey, can you hear me? Clark: Yeah, I can hear you. How are you bud? Daniel: Oh my God, um... I'm doing okay.*Clark stutters*Daniel: Um, the feds pretty much got me. Clark: The feds got you? Daniel: Like... yeah. This time the feds got me, and Bob told me that it wasn't going to happen and he didn't believe me. And, I went to probation yesterday and sure enough, the feds were there and they charged me with seven counts of, um, threats- from threats that I made. Clark: Seven counts of threats?! Daniel: Yup, under- under federal court. Clark: Holy shit! Daniel: Yeah. Clark: So this... shit! Uh... Daniel: And... and not only that, the feds apparently are looking into Bob for his finances and the feds are also, on top of that, now looking into my bank statements to see the real amount he was giving me. Clark: So they think Bob was also committing fraud as well? Daniel: They think that he's committing fraud. Clark: Shit! Holy sh- [video cuts] Daniel: ...money through his bank account or is he giving you cash and you're putting it into your bank, and I said both. Clark: Shit! And why, why did they take you up to [REDACTED]? Are you in [REDACTED] or [REDACTED]? Daniel: I am in flippin' [REDACTED] of all places. Clark: What the hell? Yeah I- because I missed your call last night because I didn't have my, uh, debit card or my credit card with me and I was like, alright, I'll just have to wait till tomorrow. Everyone said that... Daniel: Right. Don't worry. Don't worry about that. It's okay. Clark: OK. Daniel: Um, I did also talk to the public defender. Um, I have court on Monday. Clark: OK. Daniel: OK, and it IS federal court... Clark: *gasps, whispers* Fuck... Daniel: ...they were saying that I was a flight risk and all the garbage that they're gonna say, but, it's okay. Clark: Yeah. Daniel: But they're looking at trying to put me in, um, like, basically higher security housing. Clark: Geez! Daniel: So, it would basically be basic housing, you know, just like *unintelligible*. [video cuts] Daniel: Um, they're saying that yes, I would be facing prison time if convicted but my public defender was saying that with me being homeless five years and being out in the cold, whether to point till I feel like I'm gonna die, and I'm panicking. When I panic, I say things that I don't mean- Clark: True. Daniel: ...and I didn't mean the threats, I don't know how to make explosive stuff like that, they said that, well, you know, that is true, you know that is- I DEF shouldn't have said. So... Clark: Wow, that is- that is, that's perfect to say. I would listen to your public defender because he's 100% right. There's no way you could actually make a bomb or do anything that you said. Daniel: Right, and I don't have a violent history, like, anything like that. Clark: Exactly. Daniel: My- the main concern the judge said is that it's one step away from doing so, and that's their concern if I get back out. And they're also concerned that if I get back out I will go back on social media and continue to make threats. Clark: Holy crap... Daniel: And... right. And that's what the judge said, and you know what? I'm okay doing a little bit of time, you know? I would rather show I'm gonna be good, you know than, create more issues, right? Clark: Oh yeah, I agree. I mean, you're- Daniel: Umm... Clark: You did well with your 27 days, so. Daniel: Right. [video cuts again] Daniel: ...call you. Clark: OK. Daniel: OK, I'm gonna get Grace's number, I'm gonna get Tina's. My public defender also said that they were gonna reach out to Grace. Clark: OK. Daniel: So they might reach out to you, they might reach out to Grace, but I did tell them that yes, we are engaged, and they're going to try to reach out to her. Clark: OK. *inhales, sighs* Daniel: Um, because they've wanted to let her know that like, I'm okay, and you know, they wanted to see what she wants as well. Clark: So, are the- are the, are the charges like threats against the government or something like those? Daniel: It's... I guess they're considering- they're calling it interstate threats. Clark: OK. Daniel: They're saying that it's threats and interstate threats. Clark: Geez... Daniel: They're not calling it like, terrorist threats, they're not saying anything like that. But they are saying, their biggest concern is apparently DDRC, they had to fully evacuate. Clark: *chuckles in shock* Geez! Daniel: And they're saying that that was a big concern. So... Clark: Oh, after like, comments you made one time they had to evacuate like the whole building or something? Daniel: Yup, and they brought in bomb-sniffing dogs. Clark: *chuckling* Jesus Christ! Daniel: Because like DDRC gets, took it so- [video cuts, Clark inhales] Daniel: Which I mean, proves kind of how stupid they are, you know, because they know me so well that like, they know I'm not gonna do that, but *chuckles* kind of ridiculous as you can see! Clark: *chuckles* Yeah, like why would they even waste their time? They know who you are! Daniel: Right. Right. Like, they know who I am, I don't know why they're gonna waste their time and then... and not only that, the FBI is saying things about you, um, and not only you, but now a Discord server that I know you're not even in! *coughs* Clark: Wh- what were they... Jesus Christ, this is a whole mess now! Daniel: Yeah, so the feds are just trying to get me, you know, like they're- they're trying to call me crazy when this is like, no, because this is what I did and it hap- [video cuts] Clark: I agree! Why would you lie, and- I mean, was it MacDou- MacDougall that, MacDougall that picked you up or was it different secret service? Daniel: Believe it or not, it was MacDougall, MacDougall and he did actually say that like, in the end, he doesn't really care that I did the threats against him, which yes, is a concern and I shouldn't have done it, you know. But he said in the end, that he cares and still- you know, 'cause if he cared, he wouldn't cut contact. *laughs* It's kind of ridiculous, if you ask me! Clark: Yeah, it's like, I guess he's trying to do his job, but then he knows you so well, he knows the threats aren't- shouldn't be considered real. Daniel: Right. He knows, he knows that they're not real threats, and then he knows as well, you know like... his concern as well was like, he asked me to stop the first time and I didn't. Clark: True. Daniel: And I guess that is his point. Clark: And he did ask, he did ask me to stop saying that I was an actual lawyer before, because I was still a law student and he did get mad about that. That was a thing that started the whole thing for me. Daniel: Well, yeah, and I mean, you first got contact, right? It was under crazy circumstances. Clark: Yeah. Daniel: Like, you were lying for safety. Clark: True. Daniel: At this point, I feel like people need to announce the truth of what's really going on. Clark: Oh no- I, I agree. It's all gonna come out anyway in the trial, so. Daniel: Right, and I mean Tina, cuz I mean Daniel MacDougall- Dougall, also told me about, um... Tina's... um, comment, and said like, "Didn't Tina say don't contact Grace anymore?" and I'm sitting there going like, that's months ago, years ago, and since then, Tina is now understanding of what's going on. Clark: Geez, so yeah, that Instagram comment from a while ago? Daniel: But anyways, what I' m gonna do is I'm gonna call you back tomorrow... Clark: OK. Daniel: OK, um, we might need to figure out a way to put money on my books. Clark: OK, I can help with that. [call ends] |