December 13th Jail Call
On December 13, 2024, three days after being transferred to Cimarron Correctional Facility, Daniel called Clark and informed him that he is there awaiting transfer to Springfield. [1] This was the first out of two calls that took place at Cimarron Correctional Facility.
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Daniel: Hello? Clark: Hi, Daniel! Daniel: Hey. Um, what time… Clark: Jeez, what the he- Daniel: Uh, what times are good for me to call? Clark: Um, I’m back in the States now so pretty much anytime. Sorry, I was trying to figure out the credit card thing and everything, ‘cause your calls haven’t cost money recently, but these ones do and I didn’t know you were gonna be in Oklahoma so I’m confused on that as well so, but I’m here now. Daniel: OK, so I’m in Oklahoma, um, because they don’t transfer direct. Clark: OK, OK. Daniel: Um, I went on a private jet with the feds, OK? Um, from Denver to Oklahoma with about 200 people on the plane, um, it’s like a private commercial jet. Clark: Jeez! Daniel: And there was like, 20 officers on the plane but, and they were I guess trained also as flight attendants but they were actual like, fed officers, um, and the flight was an hour, hour and a half. I landed in Oklahoma City and then I got here to Cimarron Correctional Facility, and I’m gonna be here until the flight- until I guess they can schedule, ‘cause there’s only three planes for the feds. When the next plane goes from Cimarron to Springfield, then that’s the plane I’m gonna be on. Clark: OK, that makes sense. Yeah that’s what some people were talking about online, that you’re just in a holding and then they’ll move you to Missouri in the next couple days. Daniel: Yeah, so I finally got a hold of Bob, OK? Once again, I’m not gonna be talking about him because he doesn’t want that. Clark: OK. Daniel: Um, so… first of all, you know the reason why I made the threats. Um, I don’t want to keep talking about that. I’m kind of pissed off *chuckles * at kind of everybody in a way because I felt like everybody was just talking and not actually doing or owning up to what they were saying. You see what I’m saying? Clark: Yeah. Yeah, I agree, I agree. Daniel: So, I felt like I had to make the threats to be able to get off the streets, and I realized that I shouldn’t have done it, I don’t think I can be held accountable for the threats because it was court ordered by probation that I was on; the misdemeanor probation for housing, and my probation officer kept holding it off which he shouldn’t have done. Clark: That’s true. Daniel: Um, so I do blame probation in a way. Um, but I was also knowing the situation with Tina and Grace, and then you, and I wanted to really kind of set my foot down and really say, “look, I care about this probably more than people think I do, I care about the relationship, I care about my future, I don’t wanna be on the streets anymore.”, and that’s why I kind of had to- I felt like I had to draw the line to bring everybody together. Clark: Yeah, no, that makes sense. Daniel: And, um… well, thank you. Um, I do realize that there might have been trolling in the past or whatever, I’m kind of pissed of my family. I’m not gonna mention names, I’m just kind of pissed off at my biological- [video cuts] Daniel: -some of my friends for blaming people without really knowing anything and then them blaming other people and family without really knowing any information, because it’s not getting us anywhere, and I think we live in a already judgmental world and we don’t need more of that. Clark: No, I 100% agree with you. Everything was just kind of going crazy and then when the feds got involved, and then of course you have a Reddit that’s constantly posting your every move, where you are, what you’re doing, making things- Daniel: And- right, and I don’t think Bob even realized that it was really that, and I don’t think he realized that fans were actually showing up at the locations. He thought that, or just, you know, there. Wherever I was. I think he was thinking I was actually posting my location which I wasn’t doing when I was with him. Clark: Yeah. That’s true. Daniel: Um, so I think there was a big family miscommunication going on and they just didn’t believe me. Um, but anyways I- my public defender did say when I first got arrested that I wouldn’t know anything about Tina or Grace or further information until I get deemed competent. Clark: OK. Daniel: OK? I wish it wasn’t that way, I really do, but it doesn’t look like it’s gonna go anywhere until I get deemed competent. Clark: Which should hopefully happen sooner or later, I mean, you’re on medication now, you’re sounding a lot better, just- I would just, I mean, keep it up and they’re gonna- they have to. Daniel: Well, that’s r- yeah, but the crazy thing is I haven’t even started the medication yet. Clark: Oh, shoot. *laughs * Daniel: *laughs * I know, right? Like, just because I’m off the streets, I’m doing better. Clark: That's true. Daniel: Like, I hate to say it that way, but it’s all because I’m off the streets and I’m getting food. Like, I was close to dying. My body was shutting down. Clark: Is the dis- that’s true. Is this facility better than the other one or is it worse or?
Clark: Oh shoot *chuckles * Daniel: *wheezes * But it’s like, you know when you go to like, a park and there’s like the cabins or whatever where the restroom is? Clark: Yeah, yeah. Daniel: Or like, a shower at a sporting field. Clark: Oh, OK OK. Daniel: It’s like that. Concrete floor that’s dirty as hell, one toilet that’s about the same as like an actual porta potty um, or county jail, but the window is just one big gigantic window for the ceiling, um, so I can see out. Um, besides that, I mean it’s set up like- like kind of like Denver would be, Denver County Jail, but it’s run way worse. Um, and then the county is worse, so here is better Clark: Yeah, I mean the cool thing is… there’s a tornad- oh. Jeez. Well the good thing is that, I know you like sto- you wanted to like, look at storm chasing and all that, well Oklahoma’s got a lot of tornadoes, I know that. Daniel: *laughs * Yeah, I know. Um, unfortunately I won’t be to do that while I’m in custody. Clark: That’s true, but you should be get- I mean, you’ll get out. I have faith in your lawyer and everything, I mean you’re right, you didn’t have any way of making those threats actually happen, it was just you of- freedom of speech of saying things, and you were stressed. Daniel: Freedom of speech, right. And I didn’t see even the government really helping. I didn’t see it, and so the fact I even like asked for help so many times- [video cuts] Daniel: -on holds, somebody should have done something. Clark: That- yeah. Instead, everyone was just worried about getting you arrested or trolling when someone like you got the- they failed you, the housing- disabilities failed you, they all just gave up on you I guess. Daniel: Well, it’s that and I also know that Tina was in contact with disability housing way back, and then I randomly got arrested and they ditched me, they kicked me out for some reason and I think I freaked out because I got randomly got arrested not knowing like, exactly what was going on. I was on a walk and I came home and nobody was there, and the police showed up around the corner and said, “you’re trespassing on private property” and I’m like “uh, no, this is my house” and they went up and, you know how I used to have the karaoke machines? Clark: *chuckles * Oh yeah, yeah. Daniel: They were playing the- they were playing my karaoke machine and my music in the garage with the doors closed and everything and they refused to answer for the deputies, you see what I’m saying? Clark: Yeah, that’s bullshit. Daniel: But the deputies could hear my music and they were like, “OK, well we have no other option, but there is a warrant for your probation and we’re coming to get you. It’s a PR bond.” They took me, I stayed the night, I got released on the PR bond and went back to the house, and Reva told me, which was my case manager um, at DDRC- told me to go ahead and try to get in because they don’t- they can’t just kick me out. Little did I know, the entire company that the housing people were through, um, not Reva but the entire housing company a day later came forward while I was sleeping on the street night, they came forward and said they had a full-blown restraining order against me. Clark: Jeez! Daniel: And I was like, “a restraining order? For what?” Clark: Yeah, that’s bullshit. Daniel: Because- and apparently it was because they called in. I was trespassing on private property, and my stuff still is at that house. I was never able to get it. Clark: Yeah, I mean- oh I guess you talked to Bob. Did he say anything about your mom? Is she OK, or…} Daniel: So *sighs *, it does sound like my d- my mother is passed away. Um, it does sound like it’s confirmed. Um, I don’t know anything legally as far as it, but um, it does- it, it’s- last I’ve heard from my mother, she was paralyzed as we know, and she was going blind. Clark: Yeah. Daniel: So it was clear that her body over- everything was malfunctioning. Clark: Yeah, no it- Daniel: Um, I don’t wanna hold up the phone and, you know, ‘cause it’s costing. Clark: Yeah. Daniel: When I get to Springfield though, the calls are going to back to being free. Clark: OK, perfect. Daniel: Um, and I’m- it’s set up like a hospital, but it’s completely, um, I’ll have, pretty much for my understanding almost all day, any time of day I can call, so we can like, set up like, actual times, whatever works best. Clark: OK. OK. OK, perfect and then is- do you think they have like, video calls there or no? Daniel: I don’t know, but I will give you permission to come visit. Clark: OK, OK. Daniel: Um, I do have to be careful because I mean, just because of your past with you trolling and- I don’t even wanna say you were trolling because I don’t think you were. Um, like I said, I think people are being over judgmental, with very little information just because you were leaking phone calls, I mean- that’s- you’ve already apologized. Clark: Yeah, exactly. Daniel: Um, and if you get held accountable for it, I don’t- you know, I’m to a point to where it’s like, I’m not gonna be affected. You see what I mean? That’s on you, I’ve already said that. Um, but I just wanna let you know, I’m doing OK. The only bad thing is I’m starting to get used to being in institutional life. Clark: Oh yeah. Daniel: Uh, because I’m in a cell so much, I’m just used to that cell life and that’s the only thing that’s not good right now. That, and of course me and Grace because I’m concerned about that because, like literally I just- we already know I care a lot about her and just, our relationship ad our tour that we were planning. I don’t know why Tina keeps of course, doing this flip-flopping is what I’m calling it at this point, flip-flopping back and forth. Clark: Yeah. Daniel: Um, and I also don’t know why Dave is being so silent about everything. Um, and it- Clark: Yeah, it’s kind of weird, and I mean in Springfield I think will change your, uh, since you won’t be in a cell there, it’s more of a hospital so maybe you won’t feel as institutionalized. Daniel: Well I’ll be institutionalized, but it’s gonna be a little different. Clark: Yeah, yeah. OK Daniel: Um, it does look like I’m gonna be in custody at least another six months, maybe a little bit more, but I’m to hoping to get- Automated voice: You have one minute remaining.
Clark: Alright, yeah, we’ll just keep fighting. Daniel: Yeah, anyways, um, keep me updated if you hear anything else about Grace and what’s going on. Clark: OK. Daniel: If you can, let her know what’s going on. Um, I don’t know if you can or not. But I’m gonna go, um, feel free to um, talk to my lawyer if you need anything, OK? Clark: OK. See you Daniel, stay safe. Daniel: Alright, bye.
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