October 30th Jail Call

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Daniel called Lil Sippy in the late morning hours of October 30, 2024. [1]

Daniel discusses the lack of communication with his public defender, as he said in every call since September. He shifted the conversation to Interscope and LBI, which Lil Sippy was not familiar with. He says he will not be transferred anytime soon, as he spoke with a caseworker, social worker, and nurse at the jail, who all confirmed he won't be transferred by December 31. Lil Sippy advises him to stop dwelling on Tina and Grace, and Daniel agrees, adding that Grace is an adult and can do anything she wants. They discuss the threats, to which Daniel attributes to being "terrified and confused while homeless", and how he was hanging out with Dylan Clark in a homeless shelter.

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Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. You will not be charged for this call. This call is from Daniel Larson. This call will be recorded and subject to monitoring at any time. To accept this call, press 5. *Lil Sippy presses 5* Automated voice: You may begin speaking now.

Lil Sippy: Yo, what's up?

Daniel: *as his line connects* (Hel)-lo?

Lil Sippy: Hello?

Daniel: Hey, this is Daniel.

Lil Sippy: What's going on?

Daniel: Hey...

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Daniel: ...CEO.

Lil Sippy: Nice. Were you able to get, uh, your lawyer's number approved?

Daniel: Not- well, it should be, I put it in the computer this morning for the phones. Um, it should be either tonight or tomorrow.

Lil Sippy: OK, cool.

Daniel: Um, do you know at all, like... I know Interscope Records was in contact with me previously and wanted to hire me. Do you know at all what's going on with Columbia Records at all? Because I was also in contact with them and Grace's entertainment management, LBI.

Lil Sippy: Most- you mean BMI?

Daniel: L, uh... LBI.

Lil Sippy: It's LBI? I haven't heard of LBI, I've heard of BMI, not LBI, but um...

Daniel: Weird, OK.

Lil Sippy: I can, hold on. Let me look up what is- let me try to look up what is LBI.

Daniel: LBI Entertainment.

Lil Sippy: *types into phone* LBI... Entertainment. Oh, it came up. OK, huh. Interesting.

Daniel: And they are Grace's management from my understanding, and I've been in contact with them for the past like, five years.

Lil Sippy: Oh, OK. Yeah, BMI is Broadcast Music Incorporation so I guess, I don't know, I was getting them mixed up. But, yeah, I don't think I've head anything about uh... Columbia besides what you told me, that it's Grace's label and stuff.

Daniel: OK.

Lil Sippy: And I guess Interscope and Columbia are fighting over you and you know, they- *gets interrupted*

Daniel: Yeah, I know that.

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Lil Sippy: Alright. Have you been talking to, uh, your lawyer or anything- anybody lately, or no?

Daniel: Nope... I haven't heard anything. But anyways, besides that, I mean, really no progress no nothing at the jail. It's the same it was last week and the week before, and the week before that.

Lil Sippy: You just gotta wait to go to Springfield. Once you get to Springfield, you know, you have four months to do there and then..

Daniel: Well, that's IF I get transferred, because if I don't by the end of Novem- or the end of December, right? End of December, then my case gets dropped, right?

Lil Sippy: Yeah, that's what the judge said, the judge said she'll probably drop your case at the end of December if you're not moved to Springfield by then. Well if you-

Daniel: OK, 'cause I was, I was talking to the jail and they don't have me next on the list either, and they don't know when the next bus is and I'm not even on that list.

Lil Sippy: But if you do end up- all I'm saying is if you do end up going to Springfield, you'll be there for, I think four months.

Daniel: Yeah. I do know that if I get transferred there I'll be there for four months. But there, I talked to the jail here, and I talked to the case worker and the social worker here at the jail, and they're all just saying that I'm not being transferred yet and I'm not anywhere close on the list.

Lil Sippy: I think in the court papers I was looking at, it said, uh, sometime in November is their estimate, so. It didn't say when or whatever.

Daniel: Well, I would have- I would have to see the nurse first because the nurse sees all people a week prior to them being transferred, and the nurse that like, I'm nowehere near on the list. So...

Lil Sippy: So maybe towards the end of November is what they mean, I don't know. It just says November on the-

Daniel: Well, the end of November is Thanksgiving.

Lil Sippy: Yeah.

Daniel: And they're not gonna be doing transfers at Thanksgiving. If anything, it would be the first or second week in December, or it would be this next bus and they don't even have the next bus on the list because of all the... I guess all the election stuff, they're delaying it, and I guess Boeing as well is having issues because the people that do transfers are Boeing.

Lil Sippy: Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see what happens, it's all we can do at this point.

Daniel: Yeah, so we're just playing this waiting game right now, and beside that I mean...

Lil Sippy: It sucks, but that's...

Daniel: It sucks.

Lil Sippy: ...that's all it is. I tried-

Daniel: Yup. I mean, at this point I think everybody prefers my case gets dropped, but we can't- we don't have any power over that,, so...

Lil Sippy: If it's so tough for you to deal with... if Tina's being such a, you know, idiot and making stuff so hard for you, why don't you just like, forget about Grace for now and just focus on yourself?

Daniel: I- *sighs* I agree, I mean, I think- I think me and Tina just got off on the wrong foot and because I was homeless, I just wasn't thinking straight. And um, I think if she was able to talk to me now, things would be completely different.

Lil Sippy: OK.

Daniel: Um, I mean, at this point, all it is is just a waiting game and see what happens.

Lil Sippy: Yeah, I doubt that Grace will do anything um, to contact you while you're in jail.

Daniel: I mean, if- if she does, it's up to her.

Lil Sippy: Yeah.

Daniel: It's up to her. I mean, she's her own adult...

Lil Sippy: And she can give you- she can, yeah.

Daniel: She's her own person, so in the end it's up to her.

Lil Sippy: But people-...

Daniel: Tina doesn't want her to, she needs to realize that like, if she wants to talk to me, she can talk to me. It doesn't matter what Tina says, she's not-

Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison.

Daniel: She's not a minor anymore.

Template:Lil Sippy: Yeah, but-

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Daniel: ...does.

Lil Sippy: Yeah, TikTok...

Daniel: It- I mean, at this point, I know what's going on. I know everything on what's going on, I understand it. I mean, I believe it's all just, a bunch of bullshit and I really should be released from custody.

Lil Sippy: Yeah.

Daniel: And I need to be able to be given a chance, but I- I just can't get back out without a safety regulation or something. I have to, you know, really try to figure out how things are gonna work once I get out. That's kind of where things are now.

Lil Sippy: You think you have problems controlling your anger?

Daniel: Not, not really. I mean, when I was homeless... I mean being out in like 20 degree weather, I mean of course I'm not gonna be doing that great. *sighs* I mean...

Lil Sippy: Yeah, but...

Daniel: My anger overall, I mean, I don't really have anger issues. I can take a lot of stress.

Lil Sippy: Yeah, but you don't think that sometimes you get angry and you do stuff without thinking, like make threats or something, that you-

Daniel: No, uh no, I made the threats because I was terrified and I was confused on why the record labels weren't paying me. And Bob kept telling me that I wasnever in contact with the record labels and I was never in contact with Grace, and I was being told that by the FBI too.

Lil Sippy: Do you trust Bob now?

Daniel: I... to be honest, I really don't. I only trust the facts that I have, the proof that I have.

Lil Sippy: Yeah.

Daniel: That's what I trust, because I am the only person that lived that situation, and I was the one that was actually receiving the texts, and was receiving the things that I know now. You see what I mean?

Lil Sippy: Yeah, I see what you mean. What was going...

Daniel: So, and so I made the threats, I made the threats to try to get help. I was on M1 holds, mental health holds.

Lil Sippy: Yeah.

Daniel: I went to, um, homeless shelters and apparently the police are saying, another thing is the police in reports of my legal discovery, were saying that I was hanging out with D- Dylan Clark, or Daylen Clark, right?

Lil Sippy: Oh, yeah I remember.

Daniel: The guy in Boulder and how he made threats as well or whatever?

Lil Sippy: Yeah.

Daniel: I was- I was at a homeless shelter with him. I had no choice to, you know, be surrounding him. He was surrounding me because we were at the homeless shelter together and I'm getting judged by the police for that. That's ridiculous!

Lil Sippy: Yeah, it's messed up. You just gotta make sure your lawyer doesn't let them use that against you in court, um...

Daniel: Right, and the same thing, they're using the fact that like, I was in disability services already and using people in disability services to target me is absolutely ridiculous. That's targeting not only me, that's targeting them too. That's not OK.

Lil Sippy: That's crazy. Why- so why did you always on YouTube, why would you always respond-

Daniel: I -just to let you know, I gotta go. The call's about to break up and lunch is here.

Lil Sippy: Ok, alright, have a good-

Daniel: I'll try to talk to you here in a little bit, or um, in a couple days, alright?

Lil Sippy: Alright, just call me when you get the chance. Have a good lunch.

Daniel: Alright, you too. Bye

Lil Sippy: Alright, bye.