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{{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has already dealt with enough, so please be respectful.|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY member of her family}}{{Transcript Needed}}{{Stub}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|DOB=January 15, 2004|Gender=Female}} | {{Contact|They have stated multiple times that they want absolutely no contact with Daniel or anyone associated with him. Grace has already dealt with enough, so please be respectful.|subject=Grace VanderWaal or ANY member of her family}}{{Transcript Needed}}{{Stub}}{{Infobox|image=Grace VanderWaal 07 22 2018 -9 (44221314270).jpg|name=Grace Avery VanderWaal|Alignment=Obsession of Daniel|DOB=January 15, 2004|Gender=Female|Arcs=}} | ||
'''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (Born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> who [[Daniel Larson]] has an obsession with since he was roughly 17. Daniel's obsession with Grace began when he saw her perform on ''America's Got Talent'' while watching the show with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]]. | '''Grace Avery VanderWaal''' (Born January 15, 2004) is an American singer, songwriter, and actress<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_VanderWaal</ref> who [[Daniel Larson]] has an obsession with since he was roughly 17. Daniel's obsession with Grace began when he saw her perform on ''America's Got Talent'' while watching the show with his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]]. | ||
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=== The Likee Meltdown === | |||
''Main Article: [[Likee Meltdown]]'' | ''Main Article: [[Likee Meltdown]]'' | ||
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It may seem as though the true and honest death of Grace brought about a repentant moment in this particular arc. However, the moment faded quickly as Daniel soon discovered that Grace had not died, and thus resumed his regular obsessive posting about her (and sexting "her" in private DMs). | It may seem as though the true and honest death of Grace brought about a repentant moment in this particular arc. However, the moment faded quickly as Daniel soon discovered that Grace had not died, and thus resumed his regular obsessive posting about her (and sexting "her" in private DMs). | ||
=== [[Tyrone]] === | |||
[[File:GraceTyrone 1.png|thumb|"Tyrone just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder"]] | [[File:GraceTyrone 1.png|thumb|"Tyrone just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder"]] | ||
[[File:GraceTyrone 2.png|left|thumb|552x552px|Daniel, alluding to the hospital Grace was apparently staying at, was being shot up.]] | [[File:GraceTyrone 2.png|left|thumb|552x552px|Daniel, alluding to the hospital Grace was apparently staying at, was being shot up.]] | ||
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As the stream goes on, Daniel stays up through the entire night, to the point where you can see the sun rising in the video, determined to get to Grace. He continues to make wild claims during this walk, along with some karaoke. This walk ended with Daniel returning to Denver as he either got tired from walking or learned that the Grace he had been speaking with was a troll. | As the stream goes on, Daniel stays up through the entire night, to the point where you can see the sun rising in the video, determined to get to Grace. He continues to make wild claims during this walk, along with some karaoke. This walk ended with Daniel returning to Denver as he either got tired from walking or learned that the Grace he had been speaking with was a troll. | ||
[[File:PregnantGrace.png|thumb| | [[File:PregnantGrace.png|thumb|319x319px|Grace "pregnant" with Jacob's baby.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15t743z/jacob_sartorius_got_grace_pregnant/</ref>]] | ||
=== The Grace and Jacob Sartorius Love Affair === | === The Grace and Jacob Sartorius Love Affair === | ||
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== Contact == | == Contact == | ||
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]] | [[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]] | ||
While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is | While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is extremely plausible that Grace simply does not want to give any of these people attention, mainly Daniel, as he feeds off of it. Some believe that Grace has stopped posting to her initial TikTok account due to Daniel (along with followers of his) harassing her via the comment section, although this is unconfirmed. | ||
=== Jakob VanderWaal | === Jakob VanderWaal === | ||
Daniel's obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him in December 2021. He confronted him, telling him to stop talking about her. Daniel, who was already in the hospital at the time of these messages, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref> | Daniel's obsession caused Grace's brother, Jakob, to message him in December 2021. He confronted him, telling him to stop talking about her. Daniel, who was already in the hospital at the time of these messages, had a meltdown and violently hit his head in response. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/uby3wb/comment/i69h1by/?context=3&share_id=iNjjLtleVCZQ_tmCa8FbK&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1</ref> | ||
=== [[Tina VanderWaal]] | === [[Tina VanderWaal]] === | ||
Daniel's obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022. | Daniel's obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022. | ||
Tina, through Instagram, demanded that Daniel stop making contact with her family, especially her daughter, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Tina then claimed to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refused to stop making videos and posts about Grace she would | Tina, through Instagram, demanded that Daniel stop making contact with her family, especially her daughter, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Tina then claimed to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refused to stop making videos and posts about Grace, she would take unspecified legal action and get Daniel arrested. | ||
Daniel responded to her messages by stating that he understands, and, more importantly, will be commiting suicide that night. He, of course, does not; and most likely threatened suicide to guilt-trip her or gain attention. | Daniel responded to her messages by stating that he understands, and, more importantly, will be commiting suicide that night. He, of course, does not; and most likely threatened suicide to guilt-trip her or gain attention. | ||
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{{Quote|Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP}} | {{Quote|Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP}} | ||
Despite this, Tina's threats haven't been followed. According to a message exchange with a member of the Daniel Larson subreddit, Tina had reached out to the Denver police, however, they were unable to do anything as ([[August 29th Meltdown|at least at the time]]) Daniel had not made any threats against Grace.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref> | |||
Even so, this interaction with Grace's mother was the focus of multiple videos and community posts for some time after. Daniel posted multiple videos crying and/or apologizing to the VanderWaal family, continuously addressing the 'allegations' against him. However, Daniel fluctuated between admitting to his misdeeds to pretending that they had never happened at all, and were all unsubstantiated just rumors.{{Citation Needed}} | |||
Following her messages, Tina made a comment on one of Daniel's live-streams, begging him to stop his obsessive posting. | Following her messages, Tina made a comment on one of Daniel's live-streams, begging him to stop his obsessive posting. | ||
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{{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | {{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | ||
Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, claiming things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and that he's misunderstood. He has not received a response. | Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, claiming things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and that he's misunderstood. He has not received a response. <gallery widths="150" heights="150"> | ||
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On March 26 2023, Tina would message Daniel once again on YouTube, on a short called "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." Tina denied this and responded, warning Daniel he was close to being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> | |||
{{Quote|Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us. | |||
Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense.}} | |||
Daniel responded 10 times, begging her for a second chance, and crying. Tina ignored these messages. However, the next day, Tina would post on Daniel's community tab on a post with his Cash App. Tina warned his followers that they were participating in committing a crime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref> | |||
{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | |||
Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He would also continue to make similar posts. As of 2024, that was the last message that Tina has verifiably sent to Daniel about Grace. | |||
=== Grace Rape Troll === | === Grace Rape Troll === | ||
[[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]] | [[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]] | ||
Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace Vanderwaal; the person behind this number has yet to be identified. | Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace Vanderwaal; the person behind this number has yet to be identified. | ||
In these texts, "Grace" claimed that she was, oddly enough, at the White House, getting sexually assaulted by her father along with being impregnated by multiple other people. Daniel believed this to be genuine, responding by attempting to convince "Grace" to move out to Denver | In these texts, "Grace" claimed that she was, oddly enough, at the White House, getting sexually assaulted by her father along with being impregnated by multiple other people. Daniel believed this to be genuine, responding by attempting to convince "Grace" to move out to Denver so that she could press charges on her father and live with Daniel. | ||
The messages started off with Daniel genuinely caring for "Grace's" wellbeing, asking what he can do to help, to Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped, and what she thought about during it''''', absolutely desperate to imagine Grace performing intercourse. He claimed to have asked these questions in order to use the information gathered by them in court, although this is obviously unlikely as nothing happened following this. | The messages started off with Daniel genuinely caring for "Grace's" wellbeing, asking what he can do to help, to Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped, and what she thought about during it''''', absolutely desperate to imagine Grace performing intercourse. He claimed to have asked these questions in order to use the information gathered by them in court, although this is obviously unlikely as nothing happened following this. | ||
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=== Messages with u/TMZ_News === | === Messages with u/TMZ_News === | ||
[[File:TMZGRACE.png|thumb]] | [[File:TMZGRACE.png|thumb|482x482px]] | ||
While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace tells them that they she has never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to be in contact with him, emphatically stating her hatred for him and desire for him to keep her name out his mouth. | While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace tells them that they she has never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to be in contact with him, emphatically stating her hatred for him and desire for him to keep her name out his mouth. | ||
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=== TikTok Comment (Official Acknowledgement) === | === TikTok Comment (Official Acknowledgement) === | ||
On April 17, 2024, it was revealed that Grace is, in fact, aware of Daniel. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6vhdt/screen_recording_of_real_grace_account_calling/</ref> On a post of her TikTok account, a user commented, | |||
On April 17, 2024, it was revealed that Grace is, in fact, aware of Daniel. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1c6vhdt/screen_recording_of_real_grace_account_calling/</ref> On a post of her TikTok account, a user commented, | |||
{{Quote|Is laniel darson featured?}} | |||
Grace had comment filtered "Daniel Larson" on her posts on TikTok due to the harassment. She replied, | |||
{{Quote|If ur trying to be a musician with [REDACTED BAND NAME] being a fan of a p*do that's haunted my life and continue to twist the blade with harassment isn't really a great road to success}} | |||
This comment confirms that Grace is indeed aware of Daniel, and clearly does not want anything to do with him, mentioning that he has haunted her. Daniel saw the comment as said on his Community Tab <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQD2h4-5DteNbgocGSjL7tw/community?lb=UgkxMQ2PXdR0vZry_MLEFxBs63rrcW3KX3Rk</ref>, but he continues to have delusions about her thinking she loves him, when in reality she does not. | |||
== References == | == References == | ||