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| issue = '''Do NOT attempt''' to contact anyone involved in the investigation against Daniel or contact Daniel while he is in jail. Individuals associated with Daniel, especially '''[[Management]]''', have been investigated by law enforcement due to their involvement with Daniel. Bear this in mind and keep yourself safe.
| issue = '''Do NOT attempt''' to contact anyone involved in the investigation against Daniel or contact Daniel while he is in jail. Individuals associated with Daniel, especially '''[[Management]]''', have been investigated by law enforcement due to their involvement with Daniel. Bear this in mind and keep yourself safe.
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}} {{Quote|I'm on the bus now to Boulder Colorado||author=[[Daniel]]'s last Community Tab post before being arrested}}[[File:DanielMugshot4.png|thumb|Why the long face? ]]
}} {{Quote|I'm on the bus now to Boulder Colorado||author=[[Daniel]]'s last Community Tab post before his arrest}}[[File:DanielMugshot4.png|thumb|Why the long face? ]]
The '''Second Jail Arc''' is the current arc, during which Daniel is imprisoned for federal crimes.
On '''April 30, 2024,''' [[Daniel]] was [[Daniel and the Law|'''arrested''']] and placed into Jefferson County Detention Facility. At the time of his arrest, the charges against him were undisclosed, with the listed reason being "courtesy housing for another agency." The following day, Daniel was transferred to the Clear Creek County Jail, where his mugshot was soon taken. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1cirs5b/the_federal_mugshot/</ref>  
 
On '''April 30, 2024,''' [[Daniel]] was [[Daniel and the Law|'''arrested''']] and placed into Jefferson County Detention Facility. At the time of his arrest, the charges against him were undisclosed, with the listed reason being "courtesy housing for another agency." The following day, Daniel was transferred to the Clear Creek County Jail, where his mugshot was soon taken. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1cirs5b/the_federal_mugshot/</ref>    


Initially, it was believed that Daniel's arrest was related to multiple probation violations, as in the days leading up to his arrest, Daniel [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|defrauded a Buffalo Wild Wings]], and admitted to viewing [[Pedophilia|exploitive material of children]].<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> However, according to a call made to his manager, [[Clark]], Daniel was arrested for the several terroristic threats he had made over the past year. These claims were later backed by documents which revealed that Daniel had been charged with seven counts of threats, carrying a maximum sentence of 65 years.     
Initially, it was believed that Daniel's arrest was related to multiple probation violations, as in the days leading up to his arrest, Daniel [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|defrauded a Buffalo Wild Wings]], and admitted to viewing [[Pedophilia|exploitive material of children]].<ref>[[:File:Daniels Admission.png]]</ref> However, according to a call made to his manager, [[Clark]], Daniel was arrested for the several terroristic threats he had made over the past year. These claims were later backed by documents which revealed that Daniel had been charged with seven counts of threats, carrying a maximum sentence of 65 years.     
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This was the fifth time Daniel had been arrested in 2024 alone, with the most recent occurring [[April 2nd Arrest|just 28 days prior to this]]. Unlike previous arrests, Daniel is ineligible for bond, and given the severity of the charges, there is a possibility he will never be granted bond. After his arrest, Daniel's contact with the outside world has been through sporadic phone correspondence, which suspended for nearly four months until September. He is currently in [[Jail Communications|contact with Clark and Lil Sippy]] through phone calls, letters and email; he calls Lil Sippy regularly.     
This was the fifth time Daniel had been arrested in 2024 alone, with the most recent occurring [[April 2nd Arrest|just 28 days prior to this]]. Unlike previous arrests, Daniel is ineligible for bond, and given the severity of the charges, there is a possibility he will never be granted bond. After his arrest, Daniel's contact with the outside world has been through sporadic phone correspondence, which suspended for nearly four months until September. He is currently in [[Jail Communications|contact with Clark and Lil Sippy]] through phone calls, letters and email; he calls Lil Sippy regularly.     


At the time, it was believed that Daniel's manager, [[Clark]], had been apprehended by authorities at his job due to his association with Daniel over the previous 10 months. It was soon revealed that Clark, as well as other members of Daniel's [[management]], were investigated by authorities seeking information about the threats Daniel had made. Afterward, Clark officially resigned from being Daniel's manager, and admitted to lying about his entire existence to Daniel. This aforementioned call was speculated to have been the last contact Daniel has had with the outside world, but this would soon be proven false, as Clark continued to communicate with him months later.     
At the time, it was believed that Daniel's manager, [[Clark]], had been apprehended by authorities at his job due to his association with Daniel over the previous 10 months. However, it was soon revealed that Clark and members of Daniel's [[management]] were investigated by authorities who sought information about threats Daniel had made. Afterward, Clark officially resigned from being Daniel's manager, and admitted to lying about his entire existence to Daniel. This aforementioned call was speculated to have been the last contact Daniel has had with the outside world, but this would soon be proven false, as Clark (and [[Lil Sippy|others]]) continued to communicate with him months later.     


This is one of the most significant events in Daniel's life, considering that he is currently at risk of being imprisoned for up to 65 years if found guilty on all charges. Many see this as the final blow, with his [[Plot Armor|plot armor]] truly breaking. This has become the most publicized aspect of Daniel's life thus far, as multiple social media accounts and news articles have covered the situation as it unfolded.<ref>https://www.dexerto.com/tiktok/tiktoker-daniel-larson-to-remain-in-jail-due-to-mental-illness-2722839/</ref><ref>https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/daniel-larson-facing-federal-charges-and-arrest-for-bomb-threats-to-white-house-fact-checking-viral-claim-article-109829139</ref> The Second Jail Arc stands as the longest period of Daniel being incarcerated, followed by the [[November 6th Arrest]].   
This is one of the most significant events in Daniel's life, considering that he is currently at risk of being imprisoned for up to 65 years if found guilty on all charges. Many see this as the final blow, with his [[Plot Armor|plot armor]] truly breaking. It has also become the most publicized aspect of Daniel's life thus far, as multiple social media accounts and news articles have covered the situation as it unfolded.<ref>https://www.dexerto.com/tiktok/tiktoker-daniel-larson-to-remain-in-jail-due-to-mental-illness-2722839/</ref><ref>https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/daniel-larson-facing-federal-charges-and-arrest-for-bomb-threats-to-white-house-fact-checking-viral-claim-article-109829139</ref> The Second Jail Arc stands as the longest period of Daniel being incarcerated, followed by the [[November 6th Arrest]].   


On May 31, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution]]. He is currently held in a mental health facility for evaluation, and has been institutionalized since July 19 after being found incompetent to stand trial.  
On May 31, Daniel was transferred to [[wikipedia:Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Englewood|Englewood Federal Correctional Institution]]. He is currently held in a mental health facility for evaluation, and has been institutionalized since July 19 after being found incompetent to stand trial.  
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==Background==
==Background==
[[File:DanielArrestWarrent.png|thumb|Warrant for Daniel's arrest. |383x383px]]
[[File:DanielArrestWarrent.png|thumb|Warrant for Daniel's arrest. |383x383px]]
During the summer of 2023, a Secret Service agent named [[Daniel MacDougall]] began investigating Daniel following several terroristic threats he had made, namely one in which he threatened to blow up the White House. This threat in particular came right off of the heels of Daniel having had a [[7/11 incident|destructive meltdown]] in a Walmart after having his [[Dog Arc|dog]] taken from him. Following this, Daniel would have multiple meetings with MacDougall, including one notable encounter where he met with MacDougall and an associate of his.<ref>https://archive.org/details/p1Kq9L756V8</ref>  
During the summer of 2023, a Secret Service agent named [[Daniel MacDougall]] began investigating Daniel following several terroristic threats he had made, namely one in which he threatened to blow up the White House. This threat in particular came right off of the heels of Daniel having had a [[7/11 incident|destructive meltdown]] in a Walmart after having his [[Dog Arc|dog]] taken from him. Following this, Daniel would have multiple meetings with MacDougall, including one notable encounter where he met with MacDougall and an associate of his.<ref>https://archive.org/details/p1Kq9L756V8</ref>[[File:DanielLastpost.png|left|thumb|Daniel's last post before his well-deserved arrest. ]]Despite being repeatedly warned by a legitimate Secret Service agent to cease making threats against people, businesses, and government agencies, Daniel refused, continuing to make threats, even making threats against MacDougall himself.<ref>[[April 6th Meltdown]]</ref> As a result, a case was built against Daniel, which eventually led to his arrest. Law enforcement interrogated both Clark, his then-manager, and members of Daniel's management to verify the threats he had made over the years. These testimonies provided the final pieces of evidence necessary to arrest Daniel.   
 
Despite being repeatedly warned by a legitimate Secret Service agent to cease making threats against people, businesses, and government agencies, Daniel refused, continuing to make threats, even making threats against MacDougall himself.<ref>[[April 6th Meltdown]]</ref> As a result, a case was built against Daniel, which eventually led to his arrest. Law enforcement interrogated both Clark, his then-manager, and members of Daniel's management to verify the threats he had made over the years. These testimonies provided the final pieces of evidence necessary to arrest Daniel.   
[[File:DanielLastpost.png|left|thumb|Daniel's last post before his well-deserved arrest. ]]
On April 25th, a warrant was issued for Daniel's arrest. This was thought to be due to Daniel having violated his probation multiple times, even before the issuing of said warrant. This notion was only exacerbated by the fact that only two days after this warrant was issued, he was [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]] of a Pumphouse restaurant by authorities on April 27,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1cgq1rg/footage_of_the_pumphouse_incident/</ref> defrauded a [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|Buffalo Wild Wings]] the next day, and on his YouTube community tab, claimed to have viewed explicit material of children.  
On April 25th, a warrant was issued for Daniel's arrest. This was thought to be due to Daniel having violated his probation multiple times, even before the issuing of said warrant. This notion was only exacerbated by the fact that only two days after this warrant was issued, he was [[List of places that have banned Daniel|kicked out]] of a Pumphouse restaurant by authorities on April 27,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1cgq1rg/footage_of_the_pumphouse_incident/</ref> defrauded a [[Buffalo Wild Wings ejection|Buffalo Wild Wings]] the next day, and on his YouTube community tab, claimed to have viewed explicit material of children.  


On the evening of April 29, Daniel became inactive on every one of his [[Social Media Accounts|social media accounts]], with his last post stating that he was on the bus back to Boulder.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxsS17QYOV0UL9Eka2f4uORLmzDC1YXhJQ</ref> [[File:April30thBookingInfo.png|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."|left|321x321px]]Daniel is well known for making terroristic threats via social media and is speculated to have made over 100 of these threats since 2021. This habit of threat-making appeared to escalate in the weeks preceding his arrest. A prime example of this trend can be seen in the [[April 6th Meltdown]], in which Daniel repeated the phrase "bomb you!" and "kill you!," where he is also seen threatening to vandalize several government buildings. Even more, Daniel [[January 26th Hospital Incident|threatened to carry out a mass shooting against a hospital]] after having been kicked out for loitering in January of the same year.
On the evening of April 29, Daniel became inactive on every one of his [[Social Media Accounts|social media accounts]], with his last post stating that he was on the bus back to Boulder.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxsS17QYOV0UL9Eka2f4uORLmzDC1YXhJQ</ref> [[File:April30thBookingInfo.png|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."|left|323x323px]]Daniel is well known for making terroristic threats via social media and is speculated to have made over 100 of these threats since 2021. This habit of threat-making appeared to escalate in the weeks preceding his arrest. A prime example of this trend can be seen in the [[April 6th Meltdown]], in which Daniel repeated the phrase "bomb you!" and "kill you!," where he is also seen threatening to vandalize several government buildings. Even more, Daniel [[January 26th Hospital Incident|threatened to carry out a mass shooting against a hospital]] after having been kicked out for loitering in January of the same year.


These threats would not serve him well in the long run, as the Colorado Police Department was slowly build a case against him, charging him with seven counts of threats, which carries a maximum sentence of '''65 years'''.       
These threats would not serve him well in the long run, as the Colorado Police Department was slowly build a case against him, charging him with seven counts of threats, which carries a maximum sentence of '''65 years'''.       
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==Legal Proceedings and communications==
==Legal Proceedings and communications==
See also: [[Jail Communications]]{{SpecialMessage|Message=Some scans of court documents may be in low quality. Help us out by getting higher quality/clearer scans.}}[[File:JaredPublicDefender.png|left|thumb|Daniel's public defender, Jared Westbroek. ]]
See also: [[Jail Communications]]{{SpecialMessage|Message=Some scans of court documents may be in low quality. Help us out by getting higher quality/clearer scans.}}[[File:JaredPublicDefender.png|left|thumb|Daniel's public defender, Jared Westbroek. |274x274px]]
Shortly after being incarcerated, Daniel had phone conversations with [[Clark]]. Following two serious phone calls, communication from Daniel to the outside world ceased for four months. In September, Clark resumed his calls, and [[Lil Sippy]] began to have regular contact with Daniel through phone calls, letters, and emails.  
 
=== First Jail Communication ===
Shortly after being incarcerated, Daniel had a phone conversation with [[Clark]], his then manager, on May 1. As mentioned in these calls, Daniel was assigned a public defender due to him [[Daniel Larson's Finances|not having the means]] to obtain a lawyer. His attorney was soon identified as '''Jared Scott Westbroek.''' According to Daniel, his public defender is attempting to argue that Daniel could not have carried out any of his threats as he lacked the resources to do so, therefore he should be released.  


As mentioned in the calls with Clark, Daniel was assigned a public defender due to him [[Daniel Larson's Finances|not having the means]] to obtain a lawyer. His attorney was soon identified as '''Jared Scott Westbroek.''' According to Daniel, his public defender is attempting to argue that Daniel could not have carried out any of his threats as he lacked the resources to do so, therefore he should be released.  
=== Second Jail Communication ===
On May 6, motivated by the interaction he had with law enforcement at his workplace, Clark [[Jail Communications#May 6|called]] Daniel, revealing that his entire existence was a lie, and everything he had done up to the point was a fallacy. This call is the most serious out of all of them, with Clark referring to it as the "most important call of his life." This would be the last call Daniel would have for nearly 4 months.


===Motion for Daniel's release===
===Motion for Daniel's release===
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</gallery>[[File:NotGuilty.png|thumb|TLDR; He's not getting out. ]]
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===May 10 court appearance ===
===May 10 court appearance ===
[[File:BobClarkText2.png|left|thumb|"Nothing was accomplished."]]
[[File:BobClarkText2.png|left|thumb|"Nothing was accomplished."|286x286px]][[File:NotGuilty.png|thumb|TLDR; He's not getting out. ]]Daniel appeared in court for an arraignment on May 10, 2024, and pleaded not guilty to all charges. Due to his not guilty plea, Daniel was not released from jail. Daniel was given a new trial date, set to July 15, which was stated in the Order of Detention following the trial.  According to Bob, Daniel stated that, "nothing was accomplished" following the hearing's conclusion.  
Daniel appeared in court for an arraignment on May 10, 2024, and pleaded not guilty to all charges. Due to his not guilty plea, Daniel was not released from jail. Daniel was given a new trial date, set to July 15, which was stated in the Order of Detention following the trial.  According to Bob, Daniel stated that, "nothing was accomplished" following the hearing's conclusion.  


In texts to Clark, Bob tells him that he would be held until a mental health evaluation was conducted (which Daniel will most definitely fail). Additionally, Bob states that Daniel says the the "appearance got leaked," although it is unclear as to what Daniel meant by this.   
In texts to Clark, Bob tells him that he would be held until a mental health evaluation was conducted (which Daniel will most definitely fail). Additionally, Bob states that Daniel says the the "appearance got leaked," although it is unclear as to what Daniel meant by this.   
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=== September 7 Clark Communication ===
On September 7, 2024, Clark [[Jail Communications#September 7|called]] Daniel for the first time in nearly 4 months. Daniel seems to have forgotten nearly everything they had spoken about in their last call, as he speaks about his delusion of being in contact with the Vanderwaal family. More importantly, Daniel divulges details of his current legal situation, most notably that he was going to be transferred to a psychiatric facility in a different state sometime in the near future, and that he had been in protective custody for up to 2 months at that point.


===September 25 Report & Transfer Request ===
===September 25 Report & Transfer Request ===
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===Canceled & Future Hearings===
===Canceled & Future Hearings===
Daniel had a competency hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024, but it was ordered to be vacated, and he was to be reevaluated sometime at the end of November. <ref name=":0" /> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e55plg/update_competency_hearing_set_for_9232024/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e52a09/only_3_counts_of_7_now/</ref> However, this re-evaluation seems unlikely.
Daniel had a competency hearing scheduled for September 23, 2024, but it was ordered to be vacated, and he was to be reevaluated sometime at the end of November. <ref name=":0" /> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e55plg/update_competency_hearing_set_for_9232024/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1e52a09/only_3_counts_of_7_now/</ref> However, this re-evaluation seems unlikely.
=== Lil Sippy Jail Communications ===
In additional correspondence from jail to [[Lil Sippy]], another convicted criminal Daniel had acquainted himself with, Daniel provided updates on his current situation and experiences. Daniel would continue to double down his [[delusions]], threaten to sue the US Government, talk about how he thought Bob was ruining his life, asking Lil Sippy sexual questions over mail, and demanding his release from jail. Additionally, Daniel admits that he had not spoken to his lawyer since early August 2024.


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