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Despite this, Tina has not followed suit with her threats. According to a message exchange with a member of the Daniel Larson subreddit, Tina had reached out to the Denver police However, they were unable to intervene, as Daniel had not made any direct threats against Grace [[August 29th Meltdown|at the time]]. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref> | Despite this, Tina has not followed suit with her threats. According to a message exchange with a member of the Daniel Larson subreddit, Tina had reached out to the Denver police However, they were unable to intervene, as Daniel had not made any direct threats against Grace [[August 29th Meltdown|at the time]]. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/11f5ymh/tina_is_not_that_hard_to_get_ahold_of/</ref> | ||
Even so, this interaction with Grace's mother was | Even so, this interaction with Grace's mother was a focal point of multiple videos and community posts for some time. Daniel posted multiple videos where he appeared emotional, often crying and/or apologizing to the VanderWaal family while repeatedly addressing the 'allegations' against him. However, his responses were inconsistent; at times, Daniel acknowledged his actions, while at other times, he dismissed the allegations as unfounded rumors.{{Citation Needed}} | ||
Two weeks later, Tina left a comment on one of Daniel's live-streams, urging him to stop his obsessive posting. | |||
{{Quote|God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP}} | {{Quote|God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP}} | ||
Upon receiving this message, Daniel | Upon receiving this message, Daniel repeatedly responded to Tina, pressing her with questions, to which she replied: | ||
{{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | {{Quote|I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.}} | ||
Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, | Daniel responded to these posts by asking even more for forgiveness, stating that things got, "...fucked up," because of his "...past friendships," and insisting he is misunderstood. He has not received a response. <gallery widths="150" heights="150"> | ||
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Months later, on March 26, 2023, an exasperated Tina left a comment on Daniel's YouTube short, titled "the vanderwaal's told me that I am safe from all legal trouble if I stay in contact with them." She denied this claim and warned Daniel that he was close to being arrested. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9trlCmh5TCU</ref> | |||
{{Quote|Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us. | {{Quote|Great!!!! Stop talking about Grace and all of us. | ||
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Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense.}} | Now you’re going to be safe…… I have talked to the FBI Daniel, this is truly not a joke and you are moving in the direction of being arrested for a very serious offense.}} | ||
Daniel responded 10 times, begging her for a second chance | Daniel responded 10 times, begging her for a second chance and crying. Tina ignored these messages. However, the next day, Tina posted on Daniel's community tab post, with a link to his Cash App. Tina warned his followers that they were participating in committing a crime. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P9y_V5Gm7wZJgDGt4zh6Q/community?lb=UgkxArnK9ibIcus0BlgS-lvLwyzpnUjVRcPz</ref> | ||
{{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | {{Quote|Anyone that contributes to this cash app and helps Daniel get to my daughter is assisting in committing a crime. I hope you know that. It is a recorded record and you will be held accountable. This is serious. Stop thinking people’s lives are a joke.}} | ||
Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He | Daniel would respond, idiotically "siding" with Tina and ignoring the severity of the situation. He continued to make similar posts that day. As of 2024, this remains the last verifiable message Tina has sent to Daniel regarding Grace. | ||
=== Grace Rape Troll === | === Grace Rape Troll === | ||
[[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]] | [[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]] | ||
Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace | Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number belonging to someone who claimed to be Grace VanderWaal; the identity of the person behind this number remains unknown. | ||
In these | In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals. Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him. | ||
The messages | The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults'''''—seemingly desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed. | ||
Whenever this fake Grace | Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref> | ||
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