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Daniel and Clark talk about what Daniel does during his time while incarcerated.
Daniel and Clark talk about what Daniel does during his time while incarcerated.


==== October 23 ====
==== [[October 23rd Jail Call|October 23]] ====
On October 23, 2024, Daniel called Lil Sippy from jail. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbeJFIdxce4</ref> Daniel reveals that he has run out of money and cannot send letters or emails, and Sippy gives Daniel advice for if he does get released. Daniel also claims that he will be focusing on his music and acting after being out, and not listening to the trolls.
Daniel reveals that he ran out of money, and claims that he will be focusing on music once released, and Lil Sippy gives advices to Daniel.


=====Transcript=====
==== [[October 24th Jail Call|October 24]] ====
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Lil Sippy was already on the phone when Daniel calls. They discuss Bob being sick and his concerns, and Daniel's housing concerns.


{{blue|Automated voice: You may begin speaking now.}}
==== [[October 26th Jail Call|October 26]] ====
Daniel's delusions notably deteriorate, as he tells Lil Sippy that Taylor Swift invited him to perform on the Eras Tour.


{{green|Lil Sippy: Hello?}}
=====[[October 30th Jail Call|October 30]]=====
Daniel is frustrated by the lack of communication from his attorney, and Lil Sippy tells him to stop dwelling on Tina and Grace. They discuss the threats, and how Daniel hung out with [[Dylan Clark]] at a homeless shelter.


{{red|Daniel: Hello? Hey-uh.}}
==== [[Halloween Jail Call|October 31]] ====


{{green|Lil Sippy: What's up?}}
Daniel explains to Lil Sippy how Bob has been inconsistent with financial support, and says that he is ruining his life. He also wants an earlier release to gain stability before the holidays, which did not happen.
 
{{red|Daniel: Um, hey, so I can talk for a little bit right now if you're available.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK, yeah it's fine.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK, *sighs* so I haven't been able to check my emails because I'm completely out of money again, so I'm kind of waiting until I can get more, so I can't check the emails, I can't really send any mail, um, because I'm completely out. Um...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Well, what about the phone? How can- you can't... can you call on the phone though?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Phone calls are free.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh, that's nice. Um, they don't have indigent packets or anything?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I... I guess they do, but that's for people that don't get money and I do. So, yeah...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK. Who's been putting money on your books? Bob?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yes.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: But, he's not gonna be able to do much more because he believes I should be out, and he's running out of money fast. But anyways, um, so... everything that you are saying about, um, Interscope Records sending me the- well, trying to get me on contact along with Columbia Records, Taylor Swift being involved, all of that is true because Clark- Clark was saying, aka Griffin, was saying exactly the same thing. My family, uh Bob, and my disability housing services that I was in, they never believed any of it. So if this is all real, then this is major because I shouldn't even be in custody.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: *coughs* So, you're not gonna do the verse on the Taylor Swift song from jail?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I... I can't unfortunately. I have to wait on all music until I'm out of custody.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh, why's that?}}
 
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{{red|Daniel: ...and that he was a big, big factor in everything.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: He got me in contact, and I think he even for a while was trying to date Grace behind my back. But, I don't...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: How... h- that's what I don't understand! How dare he! Trying to steal YOUR girlfriend!}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I... I don't know. I don't know at all, but it really really kind of fucked up everything. }}
 
{{green|Clark: That's insane! So he was just trying to be your friend because he knows that Grace is in love with you, and he was trying to get it in with Grace that way?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I... I guess, yeah. I think he saw the light that was Grace was in love with me, and he tried to use me to get to her.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: That's insane.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I think. I don't think anything really happened, I don't know, but I do know that there was a bunch of issues along that line.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Wow. *coughs* Any updates from Grace lately?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I don't have her number. I don't have any of her contact, everything is on straight up hold.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Like, like my lawyer just... I haven't spoken to my lawyer since I've last told you that I did, everything is fucked. So like, I haven't heard any new updates. All my updates are from you and you only. So that's how bad things are right now.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK. Yeah, have you, uh... um, I'm trying to think. OK, you sent me- you sent me the one letter that I never, I don't think I got back to you on.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: It was: can I ask you a few questions? Is the clit the same hole females pee from? No, uh, they pee from their urethra. Is a gag reflex normal when you're about to cum? I don't think so, no. Is pre-cum thick and sticky like regular cum?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Say that again? I'm have a really hard time hearing you.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Well, do you- don't you remember the letter you-}}
 
{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Do you remember the letter you sent with all the questions? }}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, that was fully me. Other people are sending letters from, uh, the jail as well.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: With your name on them?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yes.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: And they- they weren't like authorized by you? You didn't tell them to write them?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: They- Well, they were helping write the letters but they just, like, I- they were sending letters behind my back as well. I don't know 100% what they were saying, um, other people have, like, I told them, "Hey, can you write my letter for me?", they would write it, and then they would just, you know, from there just send it. So, I don't know what everything-}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Why did they- why don't you write your own letters?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Just because, like, I'm.. don't have a lot of time. Like, I'm trying to get a hold of my lawyer, like I said, I haven't even heard from him. Um, I'm either you know, just really busy and... just things are not working at all. Like, I haven't heard anybody. I haven't heard anything from anybody.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: *overtalking* OK, so the- the questions...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: So, I'm like, I've been filing reports, I've been doing like, nothing but like, trying to figure out even what's going on.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: The questions in that letter weren't from you?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: No, I- I haven't received any of your letters other than just the one that had the picture of, or the three pictures or whatever, I think five something of Grace?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. OK, um...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: That was the only one I got.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: So the update I have for you for your case is that your, -your judge is probably going to... the judge said that she's probably gonna dismiss your case if you're not moved to Springfield by the end of December.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK? Right.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Because there's a 4-month period that they're authorized to like, um, evaluate you? And it doesn't start until you've moved to Springfield, but basically, it-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, and, and... well, I also have information on that. I was supposed to be moved before November.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah you were, but they don't have like the bed date. They have- they don't have enough room for you in the psych part of MCFP Springfield, um...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: But their lawyer's basically saying that your trial rights are being violated. Um... yeah}}
 
{{red|Daniel: They are! My case should be dropped! I've been wanting to take my case to speedy trial already, and I've been told I can't!}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Your lawyer...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: So my case should be fully dropped by now!}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, your lawyer tried to argue to get it dropped right now, and the judge said that she's not gonna drop it right now, but if you still haven't been transferred by the end of the December, she will probably drop the case completely.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK, that's good news...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: But then if you DO end up getting transferred before the end of the year, you have to be at Springfield for four months to get evaluated and the case won't dropped, so just hope that you don't get transferred.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, I've been taking, I guess therapy here. Um, I just started a sign- I just signed up for therapy here at this jail too, which is supposed to count, uh, for therapy. So maybe I don't even have to get transferred, because I'm just doing therapy here.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Well, it's not really therapy that they're trying to do, they're trying to evaluate you to see if you're gonna, if you're likely to become competent anytime soon.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right. Right, and, I don't know what that entails. My, my-uh... public defender is saying all it is is just uh, therapy, but that's what he's saying.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. If, if- So you'll be there for like, four months, and then if the doctors don't think you're likely to, uh, become competent anytime soon, then they're gonna try to civilly commit you under Colorado state law.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yup, so my advice to you when you get out, just stay off the Internet as much as you can, or stay off- I guess, stay off- stay away from the people on Reddit, bro, because I've noticed-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do, is just kind of lay low. I've already made that decision.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, the people- it's such a big dichotomy, big difference. You look at the TikTok people, the TikTok fans of you, they love you. You look on Reddit, they hate you.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: It's all hate. It's ALL hate.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: So, and these are the-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And then, also, one more thing. Grace is supposed to be looking at houses and uh, getting houses for us, or a house for us in Colorado. And she was supposed to do that back earlier this year. I don't have any updates, I don't know if she's even done that.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK, well good for you, that I hope you move in with Grace. Um, if you do or if you don't, you know, I'm just saying it would be a good idea to just, *sighs* to not put any personal information on the internet like you were before. 'Cause you were kinda-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Alright.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: You know what I mean? You know what I'm trying to say?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, no, I agree.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I'm just trying to help you because...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I- I feel like I shouldn't even be transferred to the psychiatric place because I've already talked to psych here, and they said like, I don't even really want to be posting my life on social media, I just wanna do straight up music, and...}}
 
{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: ...some acting, so I could get back into my acting stuff.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: But I don't wanna post my everyday life. I ended up doing that to stay alive while homeless. I don't wanna- I don't wanna just keep doing that because that's what the issue is.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. Definitely.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And then, also apparently, there's deepfakes going around of me. That's a big scary thing too.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: *coughs* Yep, there's deepfakes, there's um, you know, there was that- I think I just figured out that that, that recording of Bob was fake. Bob was never making money off of your like, Daniel Larson costumes, that was made by trolls.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I- I think it is. I think it's all fake, and I think it was made to try to throw me off to get me arrested.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, so I feel like a lot of the threats came from anger, from trolls. And you were kind of enabling the trolls by posting everything online..}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: ...and if you would've just not, if you would just stay silent on the internet... *coughs* or you could still post, just don't pay attention to the comments and stuff. Um, and don't post anything personal.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: You'd be fine, but you- you kind of post like, where, you know, what restaurant you're at, and then they call the restaurant and try to say that you're gonna run around naked or something? You know?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right! Well, pfft, yeah like, why would fans or, not really fans but haters of my fanbase, right? Call restaurants and tell them I'm gonna run through the restaurant nude, naked. Like, that- that makes no sense.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Well, I would suppose it's because they're jealous of your relationship with Grace, but I don't know.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I think they are!}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I think they are jealous of my relationship with Grace, and they're just trying to create bigger issues.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: But anyways, *sighs* I just thought I would give you a call. Um, also can you send me, um, what we were talking about yesterday on the phone. Can you just... or??}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: The- you want the address and the phone number of the CEO of Interscope Records?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, I need like, the actual, like, proof so I could show my lawyer.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK, I can, uh... I can try to get you that guy's number. Um, I still have some more photos of Grace and JoJo, and Emma. I don't know what to send you, I know you wanted some Taylor Swift, and uh, Ariana Grande, but I'm probably just gonna send you the rest of the ones. I have a lot more of Grace and JoJo Siwa, and... uh, and Emma Watson, I'll just probably send those until we're out of those, if you want.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK. Alright. And then..}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: What do you do with the pictures? Do you put them up on your wall, or?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I just, *sighs* I kind of put them up on my wall, stuff like that.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Then you can just, hang them on your wall with toothpaste, that's what I did when I was in jail, just put them, put them on the wall with toothpaste.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, I gotta- I gotta go, I don't have much more time, there's a line for the phone, and I'm only out till 3 today.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: But, it's good to know that if I don't get transferred, then they'll drop the case by December?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, end of December, yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: The end of December, 'cause that would be great if I could be with family.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. Bob and them? I would hope that.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: My family. Like, the first. Yeah, the first month, or the first Christmas at least in a couple months, or a couple years.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Definitely.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: That would be great because, I just haven't been with them at all. *other inmates can be heard yelling the background*}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, so anyway, have a good day, and I'm hoping the best for you. That's the updates I have. Um, but yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK. Alright, I appreciate it. Thank you.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: You're welcome. Bye now.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Bye.}}
 
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==== October 24 ====
Daniel and Lil Sippy had a brief phone conversation on October 24, 2024. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j7iJp9Yy4I</ref> Lil Sippy was already on the phone with another caller when Daniel calls him.
 
=====Transcript=====
 
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{{green|*Lil Sippy is on the phone with another caller, when his phone beeps as}} {{red|Daniel}} {{green|calls from jail.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy (to other caller): Hey, I'm getting uh- I'm getting another call if you wanna call me back in like, 15 minutes? *answers Daniel's call*}}
 
{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. You will not be charged for this call. This call is from}} {{red|Daniel Larson.}} {{blue|This call will be recorded and subject to monitoring at any time. To accept this call, press 5. To block this call...}} {{green|*Lil Sippy presses 5*}} {{blue|Automated voice: You may begin speaking now.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Hello?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: What's up bro? What's going on?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Hey! I don't have much time to talk, but, um, I was able to talk to Bob, um... and he is concerned about me possibly getting released. Uh, my case dropped, or whatever. He is saying that it would be best if I could try to get to where they drop it in November, so I'm not [[Speech Impediment|crite]] (quite) sure how we can try to figure out how we can you know, get that, but...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I don't think they're gonna drop it in November, honestly.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I don't think- I don't think they will either, but he's concerned about if I drop the case, then I'm not getting the help with housing. I'll be right back on the streets, and case management here says I have to be sentenced to be able to get the resources, otherwise it's a court order.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: There's other...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: So everything is kind of, he said, she said.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: You don't have to be locked up to get affordable housing though.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right. Right. And, uh-}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, I- so you said Bob is worried about the case getting dropped in November instead of December?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Well, well he wants the case to get dropped in November. He says I'm innocent. Um, it's also a point to where he's pissed off at [[Tina VanderWaal|Tina]], he's the complete opposite of the VanderWaals. He's pissed off at Tina for not moving with Grace- or Grace moving to Colorado, not owning up to their word, and I'm kind of the monkey in the middle, which is what led to this entire situation with me even being in custody.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Uh, Bob was going to try to help get me housing, um, a long time ago.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Hey- where does Bob live? Where's Bob?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: He's in Denver.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Denver? So, *groans* it'll- has... he hasn't come to visit you at all?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Nope. Um...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Have you tried to get him on your visiting list?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, and he's also sick right now so he can't even visit. He's sick with something. I don't know what, but he's unable to even really do much right now.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Is he going to get better?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, I know he's gonna get better. Um, we're trying to figure out what it even is, I don't think he's went to the doctor or anything. He says it's like a common cold, but he doesn't...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: It's just, to me it just feels like you're gonna get moved to Springfield soon, so you would probably want to visit him. I don't know- do- if, when he gets better, will he be able to visit you in Springfield or is that too far of a drive?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: That's way too far of a drive, like, at that point, I don't even think he would be that much of a help anymore. He does not want me being transferred whatsoever. He says I'm innocent and he needs the case dropped. And he's blaming everything on Tina and Grace.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: How- how do you know that you're talking to the real Bob and not a troll pretending to be Bob.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Because I- I've, like I said, I've been with him in person.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK. Um...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Like... but he's just blaming 100% everything, I've shown him actual texts before I got arrested of what Grace was-}}
 
{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: He's a witness.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, um, OK. Yeah, I just looked it up and it looks like Denver to Springfield flight, I mean- I'm sorry, a drive is like 11 and a half hours?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And he would never do that. He's not that type of person. He doesn't even care. Um, it's- it's a mess, I mean, like, my safety is being completely violated in here, it's already been violated, I've filed multiple reports. I don't even have shampoo anymore, I- well I haven't had shampoo in over a couple months. The- there's like, literally stuff inside the jail like, lights that are constantly out. Our sale is like, everything is just falling apart, so who knows. Like- like I said, things are just really, really up and down, more down than up. *chuckles* You know?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Did you get, did you get my email I sent you though?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I did, um, I'm still waiting on Bob to even send me the money. He's complaining about it, so...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK. Um, well, so...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I can't even get enough money on my books to even pay fines right now, if I got any.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I'm trying, like I said to- I'm trying everything I can, but I'm just not being given a chance and I've never been given a chance, which sucks. Like, it's ridiculous.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, I know, I know you were talking about before that you have to get all the numbers approved, but I feel like, um, if it's your lawyer's number, you shouldn't have to get it approved. You should probably just be able to call it without getting it approved. If it doesn't work, you could probably just put in a request slip to the CO saying, hey this is my lawyer's number.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, um... just so... just to let you know, I do have to go on lockdown, there is one more thing. Um, can you send me like, the- in like a, um... Grace's or her mother's contact or something?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I can try to get that for you, yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK, yeah, 'cause I can see, I don't know who I will ask, but I can see here at the jail if it's approved or not, and I'll be able to verify that.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Grace and- Grace and um, Tina's number approved or the lawyer's number?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yes, Grace and Tina, and I guess Columbia Records.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK, I got- uh, I already got the Columbia Records info, try to find Tina's info for you if I can.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK, I- I gotta go, I gotta go they're putting me on lockdown.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Alright, have a good night bro.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Alright, bye.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Bye.}}
 
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==== October 26 ====
Daniel and Lil Sippy had a phone conversation on October 26, 2024. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27l34IL6Y0</ref> Daniel's delusions appear to be getting worse, as he claimed that Taylor Swift wanted him to come on her Eras Tour, but he declined.
 
=====Transcript=====
 
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{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. You will not be charged for this call. This call is from}} {{red|Daniel Larson.}} {{blue|This call will be recorded and subject to monitoring at any time. To accept this call, press 5. To bl-}} {{green|*Lil Sippy presses 5*}} {{blue|Automated voice: You may begin speaking now.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Hello?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: (Hel)-lo? Hey!}}
 
[video cuts]
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, I think that uh, Clark aka Griffin because he got me in contact with Grace originally, which um, somewhere along the line he-uh-e, started trolling.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: So, I believe that he was trying to, um, troll me to end up getting to Grace, so Grace could end up dating him instead of me.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I se- yeah, that makes sense.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I could see, I could see that making sense.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Uh, Tina has always been... I guess one day she's OK, one day she's another. I- I think she didn't quite believe or understand what was going on, as they wanted to help, but they didn't know how, and then Grace was already like, oh, let's move on with the relationship, and I think in the end, she was moving too quickly and I was moving to quickly.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Hm. I mean, that makes sense. It- yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: If that makes sense, and then Tina wasn't even really notified, so she was notified last-minute, and they were like, oh, now we have to figure out what we're gonna do, and I don't think they even knew what to do.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Mhm, yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: But I- um, and then, also, um, another strange thing Griffin did, I don't even know if this was really him or what. But when I was in contact with Tina and Grace somewhere along the line, I got my number leaked, my phone number.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Mhm.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And, um... a bunch of underaged celebrities started messaging me. So I believe that Griffin aka Clark, was- was trying to something that they, he shouldn't have done and tried to get me into legal trouble. I don't know. But-}}
 
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{{red|Daniel: Yeah, they tried to get me in contact with Issy Simpson from America's Got Talent, um, Charlotte Summers from Britain's Got Talent, um, and a bunch of others including JoJo Siwa and Taylor Swift.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Well, JoJo Siwa's an adult.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Well, JoJo Siwa is an adult, Taylor Swift's an adult, Ariana Grande is an adult, but that could also explain the collaboration Taylor Swift wants to do, 'cause she wanted me on her Eras Tour and I turned it down, because I was homeless. And I really shouldn't have done that, I straight up told her like, I can't confirm anything because you're not, you know, showing yourself on camera, you're not doing anything, and so I don't know if I can confirm who you are. *coughs*}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Ye.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And so I turned it down, and sure enough, I found out like a month later, her Eras Tour was actually a real thing and I was like "what the hell?"}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: That's crazy.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: So I was not given all the information and I was, there was some other weird stuff going on where it was like, um... which I guess isn't really a bad thing, but um, Darci um, wanted to be on Grace's tour at some point.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh, wow!}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Like Grace's uh, a rold (world) tour that Grace wanted to do or something.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, I'm pretty sure-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I don't know, but it was weird and there was a bunch of other celebrities that wanted to go, but they were all underaged and the tour wasn't supposed to be for like, another 2-3 years. So, it was all mixed up.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, if you would have accepted- if you would have went on tour with Taylor Swift though, I'm pretty sure they would've given you housing.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Uh, if I- right. If I would have just agreed to the Taylor Swift tour, I'm pretty sure that they would've. But also, I- you know that video I told you about, Bob and the phone call where he's like saying, you know, fuck Daniel, I hate him. Um, I'll make sure I give him a little bit of money to him at a time, but not all.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And he claimed it- he claimed it was photoshopped or AI.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I believe that that is actually real, and the reason I believe it is real is back in 2023, around the time that it says that Grace was in contact with me and Tina. Bob took me to the bank and told me to stay in the car while Bob went inside and transferred money into my account. He's never done that before, that was the only time he's ever done that, and surprisingly enough, that one time he didn't want me going in because he didn't want to see something or whatever, right? Or me to see something. And, um, it wasn't till that afternoon when I asked him while I was in the car like, "Hey, why didn't you let me go inside?", and he didn't say a thing. He was just- he was silent and I just shut my mouth completely. But he's never done that, he's always wanted me to go into the bank with him. So I believe he might have signed the contract on my behalf without my permission.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I don't know, Bob- it seems like Bob really cares about you a lot. I don't know if he would do something like that.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And he, I don't- right, and I don't know 'cause I don't have evidence. That's the thing, I don't have evidence to say he did or didn't. But...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Didn't- don't you think if he was stealing from you, the feds doing all their investigation on you would have picked on that too, and he would have got in trouble?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I think they would, and I think they also would've picked up on Griffin and they never did, so. But anyways, I'm getting locked down for the night. I will be out again tomorrow, and I will try to either call you depending on if I have time, or I'll call the label.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I'll... I'll..}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I'll send you an email instead, alright?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Alright, have a good night.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: You too. Bye.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Bye.}}
 
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==== October 30 ====
Daniel called Lil Sippy in the late morning hours of October 30, 2024. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJP57EdTpI8</ref>
 
Daniel discusses the lack of communication with his public defender, as he said in every call since September. He shifted the conversation to Interscope and LBI, which Lil Sippy was not familiar with. He says he will not be transferred anytime soon, as he spoke with a caseworker, social worker, and nurse at the jail, who all confirmed he won't be transferred by December 31. Lil Sippy advises him to stop dwelling on Tina and Grace, and Daniel agrees, adding that Grace is an adult and can do anything she wants. They discuss the threats, to which Daniel attributes to being "terrified and confused while homeless", and how he was hanging out with [[Dylan Clark]] in a homeless shelter.
 
=====Transcript=====
 
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{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. You will not be charged for this call. This call is from}} {{red|Daniel Larson.}} {{blue|This call will be recorded and subject to monitoring at any time. To accept this call, press 5.}} {{green|*Lil Sippy presses 5*}} {{blue|Automated voice: You may begin speaking now.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yo, what's up?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: *as his line connects* (Hel)-lo?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Hello?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Hey, this is Daniel.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: What's going on?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Hey...}}
 
[video cuts]]
 
{{red|Daniel: ...CEO.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Nice. Were you able to get, uh, your lawyer's number approved?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Not- well, it should be, I put it in the computer this morning for the phones. Um, it should be either tonight or tomorrow.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK, cool.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Um, do you know at all, like... I know Interscope Records was in contact with me previously and wanted to hire me. Do you know at all what's going on with Columbia Records at all? Because I was also in contact with them and Grace's entertainment management, LBI.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Most- you mean BMI?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: L, uh... LBI.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: It's LBI? I haven't heard of LBI, I've heard of BMI, not LBI, but um...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Weird, OK.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I can, hold on. Let me look up what is- let me try to look up what is LBI.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: LBI Entertainment.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: *types into phone* LBI... Entertainment. Oh, it came up. OK, huh. Interesting.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And they are Grace's management from my understanding, and I've been in contact with them for the past like, five years.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh, OK. Yeah, BMI is Broadcast Music Incorporation so I guess, I don't know, I was getting them mixed up. But, yeah, I don't think I've head anything about uh... Columbia besides what you told me, that it's Grace's label and stuff.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: And I guess Interscope and Columbia are fighting over you and you know, they- *gets interrupted*}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, I know that.}}
 
[video cuts]
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Alright. Have you been talking to, uh, your lawyer or anything- anybody lately, or no?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Nope... I haven't heard anything. But anyways, besides that, I mean, really no progress no nothing at the jail. It's the same it was last week and the week before, and the week before that.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: You just gotta wait to go to Springfield. Once you get to Springfield, you know, you have four months to do there and then..}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Well, that's IF I get transferred, because if I don't by the end of Novem- or the end of December, right? End of December, then my case gets dropped, right?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, that's what the judge said, the judge said she'll probably drop your case at the end of December if you're not moved to Springfield by then. Well if you-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: OK, 'cause I was, I was talking to the jail and they don't have me next on the list either, and they don't know when the next bus is and I'm not even on that list.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: But if you do end up- all I'm saying is if you do end up going to Springfield, you'll be there for, I think four months.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah. I do know that if I get transferred there I'll be there for four months. But there, I talked to the jail here, and I talked to the case worker and the social worker here at the jail, and they're all just saying that I'm not being transferred yet and I'm not anywhere close on the list.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: I think in the court papers I was looking at, it said, uh, sometime in November is their estimate, so. It didn't say when or whatever.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Well, I would have- I would have to see the nurse first because the nurse sees all people a week prior to them being transferred, and the nurse that like, I'm nowehere near on the list. So...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: So maybe towards the end of November is what they mean, I don't know. It just says November on the-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Well, the end of November is Thanksgiving.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And they're not gonna be doing transfers at Thanksgiving. If anything, it would be the first or second week in December, or it would be this next bus and they don't even have the next bus on the list because of all the... I guess all the election stuff, they're delaying it, and I guess Boeing as well is having issues because the people that do transfers are Boeing.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see what happens, it's all we can do at this point.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, so we're just playing this waiting game right now, and beside that I mean...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: It sucks, but that's...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: It sucks.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: ...that's all it is. I tried-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yup. I mean, at this point I think everybody prefers my case gets dropped, but we can't- we don't have any power over that,, so...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: If it's so tough for you to deal with... if Tina's being such a, you know, idiot and making stuff so hard for you, why don't you just like, forget about Grace for now and just focus on yourself?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I- *sighs* I agree, I mean, I think- I think me and Tina just got off on the wrong foot and because I was homeless, I just wasn't thinking straight. And um, I think if she was able to talk to me now, things would be completely different.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: OK.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Um, I mean, at this point, all it is is just a waiting game and see what happens.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, I doubt that Grace will do anything um, to contact you while you're in jail.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I mean, if- if she does, it's up to her.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: It's up to her. I mean, she's her own adult...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: And she can give you- she can, yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: She's her own person, so in the end it's up to her.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: But people-...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Tina doesn't want her to, she needs to realize that like, if she wants to talk to me, she can talk to me. It doesn't matter what Tina says, she's not-}}
 
{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: She's not a minor anymore.}}
 
{{Lil Sippy: Yeah, but-}}
 
[video cuts]
 
{{red|Daniel: ...does.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, TikTok...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: It- I mean, at this point, I know what's going on. I know everything on what's going on, I understand it. I mean, I believe it's all just, a bunch of bullshit and I really should be released from custody.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And I need to be able to be given a chance, but I- I just can't get back out without a safety regulation or something. I have to, you know, really try to figure out how things are gonna work once I get out. That's kind of where things are now.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: You think you have problems controlling your anger?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Not, not really. I mean, when I was homeless... I mean being out in like 20 degree weather, I mean of course I'm not gonna be doing that great. *sighs* I mean...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, but...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: My anger overall, I mean, I don't really have anger issues. I can take a lot of stress.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, but you don't think that sometimes you get angry and you do stuff without thinking, like make threats or something, that you-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: No, uh no, I made the threats because I was terrified and I was confused on why the record labels weren't paying me. And Bob kept telling me that I wasnever in contact with the record labels and I was never in contact with Grace, and I was being told that by the FBI too.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Do you trust Bob now?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I... to be honest, I really don't. I only trust the facts that I have, the proof that I have.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: That's what I trust, because I am the only person that lived that situation, and I was the one that was actually receiving the texts, and was receiving the things that I know now. You see what I mean?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, I see what you mean. What was going...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: So, and so I made the threats, I made the threats to try to get help. I was on M1 holds, mental health holds.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I went to, um, homeless shelters and apparently the police are saying, another thing is the police in reports of my legal discovery, were saying that I was hanging out with D- [[Dylan Clark]], or Daylen Clark, right?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh, yeah I remember.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: The guy in Boulder and how he made threats as well or whatever?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I was- I was at a homeless shelter with him. I had no choice to, you know, be surrounding him. He was surrounding me because we were at the homeless shelter together and I'm getting judged by the police for that. That's ridiculous!}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, it's messed up. You just gotta make sure your lawyer doesn't let them use that against you in court, um...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, and the same thing, they're using the fact that like, I was in disability services already and using people in disability services to target me is absolutely ridiculous. That's targeting not only me, that's targeting them too. That's not OK.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: That's crazy. Why- so why did you always on YouTube, why would you always respond-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I -just to let you know, I gotta go. The call's about to break up and lunch is here.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Ok, alright, have a good-}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I'll try to talk to you here in a little bit, or um, in a couple days, alright?}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Alright, just call me when you get the chance. Have a good lunch.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Alright, you too. Bye}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Alright, bye.}}
 
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==== October 31 ====
 
Lil Sippy and Daniel called again on Halloween. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar_ffGKM9HA</ref>  Daniel believes Bob is ruining his life.
 
===== Video =====
 
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar_ffGKM9HA</youtube>
 
===== Transcript =====
 
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{{blue|Automated voice: To block this call-}} {{green|*Lil Sippy presses 5*}} {{blue|You may begin speaking now.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: What's good! Hello?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Hey! I don't have long to talk, I only have about two minutes I can talk.}}
 
[video cuts]
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, and then also I tried to talk to Bob earlier today about me and my release, seeing if he can, or seeing if I can get out in November instead of December because if I get released in December, let's just say, then I'm not gonna have time before Christmas to get my new state ID and to get back on my feet, even though I have money in my bank account now because I've been in custody.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. *coughs*}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And Bob was trying to say on the phone that like, yeah I have money in my bank account but I'm still going to need help financially because it's not, um, it's not a lot of money, it's like one month of an apartment...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: ...which he needs to realize, right? And I don't think a lot of people realize this, I don't even think my fanbase realizes this. When I was traveling across the United States, even though Bob paid for like, the big airplane tickets and stuff like that, I was paying, I was paying for the Greyhound tickets, I was paying for food, I was paying for hotels, I was paying the majority and I, uh- this year I've lost so much money that I've not been making because I've been in custody, it's no longer a joke. I was- if I was out right now, all year I would have probably been in like, the upper uh... six digits in my income by now, like no joke because that's how much I was making.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh wow. Like a mil- looks like, like hundreds of thousands of dollars?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, hundreds of thousands of dollars because I was making, I was making like, back in 2022 when Bob wasn't even helping, I was making the most money.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: *coughs* OK.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And as soon as I asked Bob to try to help get me in an apartment, even one month and he denied it, we argued and he ended up saying he was going to pay for hotel rooms. Well,}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Well, I mean Grace like, Grace has a lot of money, why don't you- you don't think Grace would pay for anything?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Tina won't let her. }}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh man, Tina again. OK}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Tina just won't- Tina won't do anything and Tina won't let Grace help, it's been an issue.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: It's crazy.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: The thing is, I'm to a point I am, my life is being destroyed by Bob at this point, and I don't think he realizes it.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Bob is destroying your life? I thought Bob was helping you.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: He was helping me previously but it's to a point that he's saying things that without enough information, and talking to people behind my back like my lawyer, and I'm already deemed incompetent, if you know what I mean.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I- I'm to a point I feel like nobody even cares, you know? People just want me and my career over and I would have been doing fine if Bob would've just, you know, got the apartment one month way back last year because when I started going from the street to the hotel, to the street to the hotel...}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|...my fans were confused, And it's similar to the news, right? When the fans are confused or the world is confused, they don't know what to believe and so eventually, people fall off the board, you know, people fall off the market.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. One sec..}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And you have to- you have to something built that the fans can believe, and right now Bob is completely destroying that reputation.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Bob is destroying a reputation? What has he been doing?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: He's- like I said, he's been paying for the hotel rooms, he's been putting money on my books, he's now to a point where he's arguing about-}}
 
{{blue|Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Now to a point to where he's arguing about the amount that he's putting on my books and saying that like, he can't do it that much more, it- it's to a point I was doing better financially and being able to support myself when he wasn't helping at all, when he was just a friend.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Wow.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And- and I feel like that financial aspect when he was paying for the hotel rooms and now to the point where he's saying, "I don't know if, you know, 'cause you're going to need financial help", no I don't, because if I was making enough in 2022 to be able to travel across the United States, I definitely had enough money to get on my feet.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: So, I thought- but you're saying you're making money while you're in jail now, right?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Only because of him and my music distribution. If was out this year, this entire year, I would've made probably... I want to say six to seven songs by now. I was already, um, in my bank account I had $100 saved and I only needed 100 more and I was averaging 100 in saving a week to be able to get into the recording studio. I only needed 200 more, that's only two weeks.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Well, that's just the studio. You gotta think about housing too, though.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, but I was saying that like, I would've already had housing by now with the amount that I would have been making.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I've used the calculator in the jail, I've added everything up. The amount Bob was giving me versus what I can make and then the hotel rooms versus what I can make, and then the hotel rooms vs. the apartment, the apartment would have been a whole lot cheaper.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: So... so it's Bob's fault that you're in jail too though, right?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: It's yes and no. I want to say that he's a big factor in my fan base falling apart because he was keeping me homeless at the time, and when my fans started seeing me on the streets vs the hotel back and forth, I was losing fans.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. So, if he would've just...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: That's a big factor in all the manipulation towards me.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: So, if Bob would've just stepped up to the plate and given you enough money for housing, then...}}
 
{{red|Daniel: My fans probably would not have thought I was crazy and would not have manipulated me.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: When the fans saw that I was being on the street homeless and I was getting hotel rooms, everybody was asking me. Fans were coming up to me saying, "Where are you getting this money? Is Bob giving it to you?" and I said yes. And then at that point, it just got worse and then over time, fans were thinking I wasn't capable of anything and they didn't know that the money Bob was giving to me, a majority of it, I was saving behind Bob's back, and as soon as Bob found out, he would stop paying me. He would stop paying for hotels and then I would be back on the street, and then I would end up losing followers again.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: And it all makes sense now, it does. You make a good argument for it all being, uh, Bob's fault. You know, I never looked at it from that angle before.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, and in the end- in the end, Grace was just telling me like, "Hey, you need to do this, you need to do that. You need to get this done." I was trying to do that all along, and Bob and the FBI agents were telling me I was never in contact with Grace.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: *overtalking* Well why do you think they were telling you that?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I feel like if Bob would've known as well that if Grace was in contact all along and was able to verify it, Bob would have gotten the apartment.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: What do you think their motives for telling you that uh, Grace- you were never in contact with Grace's... well, why would they tell you that?}}
 
{{red|Daniel: *sighs* I think it was because Tina, I think Tina just didn't really like me because I was homeless and she wanted somebody for Grace that could actually take care of her as well, and somebody mature.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: But I don't think Grace really cares about any of that. Grace just, uh, I think it feels like she wants you. She doesn't care about somebody rich or what anything like that.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: I'm saying that from Tina's perspective.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, OK. Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: But, but yeah I- I think everything is messed up. I've been listening to the news and I've been seeing how um, uh, the entire trash America thing on TV right now on Fox News, trash America.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Oh, yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And Trump in the tri- pickup truck.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah, Trump-}}
 
[video cuts]
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: ...that he was doing well. Yup.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Yeah, well the crazy thing is I feel that way about America right now. I literally, I'm just to a point to where it's like, everybody in my life at the time, the VanderWaals should've stepped up, Bob should've just went and got the hotel, I mean the apartment, not the hotel room, but just went and got the apartment, paid one month, that's 30 days of my fans and getting spotted in public I could have saved up money for the next month. And instead I was paying for $100 to $200 for a hotel room a day, and an apartment is only $2000 a month.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah. You can get cheaper apartments than that, but yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Right, you can get cheaper apartments, so I'm just saying that is extreme manipulation financially when it comes to my fanbase.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Yeah.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: And I don't think Bob realized. But anyways, I gotta go, they're locking us down.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Alright, have a good night man.}}
 
{{red|Daniel: Alright, bye.}}
 
{{green|Lil Sippy: Alright, bye.}}
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