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As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace showed no signs of stopping.  He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of trolls impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in graphic and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content such as [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. While his Graceposting had eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween.     
As of 2024, Daniel's obsession with Grace showed no signs of stopping.  He continues to fall for trolls’ claims about her and follows the instructions of trolls impersonating Grace, often leading him to engage in graphic and disturbing actions, including the creation of NSFW content such as [[The Toothbrush Incident]]. While his Graceposting had eased up, it never truly died down or stopped. Daniel's most recent head-canon was that he and Grace were periodically breaking up and getting back together, or getting an apartment, with no inbetween.     


Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to. However, considering th    
Although these delusions do appear to be what Daniel is genuinely thinking, [[Flexburger]] has said in the past during a AMA that Daniel does not truly believe that he is dating Grace. Instead, it is said he wants to believe it, and likes having someone to sext and talk to.   


== Grace and [[Pedophilia]] ==
== Grace and [[Pedophilia]] ==
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== Contact ==
== Contact ==
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]]
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Grace's mom responding to what is most likely thousands of messages from Daniel|545x545px]]
Grace is aware of Daniel and has rarely publicly acknowledged him despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.                     
While Grace is aware of Daniel's existence, she has very rarely publicly acknowledged him, despite hundreds of comments and posts by Daniel and his [[trolls]]. It is highly likely that she chooses not to acknowledge them, particularly Daniel, as he thrives on attention. Some speculate that Grace stopped posting on her original TikTok account due to harassment from Daniel and his followers in the comment section, though this remains unconfirmed. She actively filters out comments on her social media that mention Daniel or references to him.                     


=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
=== Jakob VanderWaal ===
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In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals.  Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.   
In these messages, "Grace" made bizarre claims, stating that she was at the White House, being sexually assaulted by her father, and had been impregnated by multiple individuals.  Daniel believed this to be genuine and attempted to convince "Grace" to move to Denver, where she could press charges against her father and live with him.   


The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults,''''' seemingly desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.   
The messages initially showed Daniel expressing genuine concern for "Grace’s" well-being, asking how he could help. However, the conversation quickly took a disturbing turn, with Daniel proceeding to ask "Grace" '''''what it felt like to be raped and what she thought about during the assaults'''''—seemingly desperate to imagine her engaging in intercourse. Daniel later claimed that he asked these questions to gather information for use in court, though this is highly unlikely, as no legal action followed.   


Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>   
Whenever this fake "Grace" spoke about the alleged assaults, they claimed the incidents were being recorded and uploaded to a social media or pornographic website, which led Daniel to express interest in finding and viewing the supposed footage. Following this exchange, he made multiple videos stating that he had contacted the police regarding the situation. Given his history of misusing emergency services, it is likely that he did, in fact, call the authorities. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref>   
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Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.  
Nearly a year later, on June 20, 2025, Grace disabled the comments on all of her TikTok posts following another wave of harassment, which included quotes, references to Daniel, and users asking her to "free her boyfriend". <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@gracevanderpeepee</ref> She continues to delete such comments.  


=== 2025 TikTok Comments ===
=== Second TikTok Comment ===
On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote|I do not like this reference}}
On November 23, 2025, on a post on Grace's alternate account, ''@user4602508883137,'' a user commented,{{Quote|i thought this was grace vanderwaal for a second and almost morphed into daniel larson}}This account did not have the filters in place like her main account. Grace typically ignores or deletes comments with references to Daniel, but replied to this one, emphasizing her aversion; <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/1r0vofz/grace_vanderwall/#lightbox</ref>{{Quote|I do not like this reference}}Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.
Grace was already dealing with her mother's death at this time, which occurred the month before.


In another post, a user asked, <ref>https://www.tiktok.com/@user4602508883137/video/7575810850477427998</ref>
{{Quote|are we aware of daniel larson}}
She replied;
{{Quote|Yes it makes me uncomfortable}}
However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''
However, the overall message is clear: Grace and her family want NOTHING to do with Daniel. '''DO NOT contact the VanderWaals about Daniel Larson.'''
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Matan Even pls interview Grace so we get her side of the story about Daniel*


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