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It may seem as though the supposed death of Grace brought about a repentful era in the Larson arc. However, this did not last for long. Eventually, Daniel discovered that Grace had not died, and thus resumed his regular obsessive posting about her.   
It may seem as though the supposed death of Grace brought about a repentant moment in this particular arc. However, the moment did not last long. Daniel soon  discovered that Grace had not died, and thus resumed his regular obsessive posting about her.   


==== "[[Tyrone]]" ====
==== "[[Tyrone]]" ====
[[File:GraceTyrone 1.png|thumb|"Tyrone just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder"]]
[[File:GraceTyrone 1.png|thumb|"Tyrone just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder"]]
[[File:GraceTyrone 2.png|left|thumb|552x552px|Daniel, alluding to the hospital Grace was apparently staying at, was being shot up.]]
[[File:GraceTyrone 2.png|left|thumb|552x552px|Daniel, alluding to the hospital Grace was apparently staying at, was being shot up.]]
Happening during the July 24th freak-out, Daniel beleived that Grace was being attacked by an individual named "[[Tyrone]]", who was setting out to kill her, claiming he had "..just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder". Following this, Daniel's community tab was filled with a staunch air of paranoia, as he beleived Grace had both died and was still alive in the hospital whilst Tyrone sought to kill her.  
During the July 24th freak-out, Daniel believed that Grace was being attacked by an individual named "[[Tyrone]]", who was setting out to kill her, claiming he had "..just shot Grace VanderWaal in the abdomen and shoulder". Following this, Daniel's community tab was filled with a staunch air of paranoia, as he believed Grace had both died and was still alive in the hospital whilst Tyrone sought to kill her.  


During one bought of delusion, Daniel beleived that Tyrone was shooting up the hospital Grace was staying at, and it got to the point where there was a "standoff".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15e3dul/this_is_actually_very_entertaining/</ref> The reason for any of these posts has yet to be confirmed, presumably only being fueled by delusion and various [[trolls]] engendering his paranoia.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15exd9u/photos_of_tyrone_graces_attacker_have_been_leaked/</ref>
During one bought of delusion, Daniel believed that Tyrone was shooting up the hospital Grace was staying at, and it got to the point where there was a "standoff".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15e3dul/this_is_actually_very_entertaining/</ref> The reason for any of these posts has yet to be confirmed, presumably only being fueled by delusion and various [[trolls]] engendering his paranoia.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/15exd9u/photos_of_tyrone_graces_attacker_have_been_leaked/</ref>


=== Daniel's (Failed) Trek from Colorado to New York ===
=== Daniel's (Failed) Trek from Colorado to New York ===
While in contact with Daniel, another account claiming to be Grace told him that she had just had sex with another man. Daniel, fueled by delusions, rage and obsession, decided to hike from Colorado to New York in a futile attempt to win her back, rambling on TikTok during the night while on his hike.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14a8u2n/an_old_underrated_moment_imo_after_a_fake_grace/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14ab7s3/continuation_from_my_previous_post_daniel_keeps/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14adymh/the_not_so_thrilling_conclusion_to_daniels_big/</ref>
While in contact with Daniel, another account claiming to be Grace told him that she had just had sex with another man. Daniel, fueled by delusions, rage and obsession, decided to hike from Colorado to New York in a futile attempt to win her back, rambling on TikTok during the night while on his hike.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14a8u2n/an_old_underrated_moment_imo_after_a_fake_grace/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14ab7s3/continuation_from_my_previous_post_daniel_keeps/</ref> <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14adymh/the_not_so_thrilling_conclusion_to_daniels_big/</ref>


In these Tiktoks, Daniel claimed that he had, "...officially fucked up," with Grace to the point that she had broken up with him. In a rare moment of clarity, Daniel said that Grace was her own person and that she could date whoever she wanted to. Daniel’s reason for going to New York was to win back Grace’s love from whomever she was apparently having sex with. He tried to guilt trip her in these videos by saying that he had a, "...[h]eart disease from heartbreak," and in unnecessary, but presumably fake details about how hard his childhood was.  
In these TikToks, Daniel claimed that he had, "...officially fucked up," with Grace to the point that she had broken up with him. In a rare moment of clarity, Daniel said that Grace was her own person and that she could date whoever she wanted to. Daniel’s reason for going to New York was to win back Grace’s love from whomever she was apparently having sex with. He tried to guilt trip her in these videos by saying that he had a, "...[h]eart disease from heartbreak," and details about how hard his childhood was.  


As the stream goes on, Daniel stays up through the entire night, to the point where you can see the sun rising in the video, determined to get to Grace. He continues to make wild claims and blatant lies during this walk, along with some karaoke here and there. However, this walk ultimately ended with Daniel, not even 48 hours later, turning back to Denver as he either got tired from walking, or possibly learned that the Grace whom he had been speaking with the whole time was a troll.
As the stream goes on, Daniel stays up through the entire night, to the point where you can see the sun rising in the video, determined to get to Grace. He continues to make wild claims and blatant lies during this walk, along with some karaoke here and there. However, this walk ultimately ended with Daniel, not even 48 hours later, turning back to Denver as he either got tired from walking, or possibly learned that the Grace whom he had been speaking with the whole time was a troll.
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''Main Article: [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Jacob_Sartorius#Delusions Jacob Sartorius#Delusions]''
''Main Article: [https://daniellarson.wiki/index.php/Jacob_Sartorius#Delusions Jacob Sartorius#Delusions]''


[[July 24th Freak-out|On July 24th]], Daniel became convinced that Grace (who he had beleived he had been dating up until that point) had broken up with him because things were, "..moving too slow", and had son gotten together with American [[Social Media Accounts|social media]] personality and [[Music Career|singer]], [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon beleive that Jacob had went on to impregnate Grace and ordered her assasination with a person named "Tyrone", all at the same time. Daniel's story when it came to Jacob rapidly changed in a matter of what could be minutes, at one point saying that Jacob was harassing him, and then Grace.  
[[July 24th Freak-out|On July 24th]], Daniel became convinced that Grace (who he had believed he had been dating up until that point) had broken up with him because things were, "..moving too slow", and had son gotten together with American [[Social Media Accounts|social media]] personality and [[Music Career|singer]], [[Jacob Sartorius]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZZNwQ2ldycA</ref> Daniel would soon believe that Jacob had impregnated Grace and ordered her assassination by a person named "Tyrone", all at the same time. Daniel's story regarding Jacob rapidly changed, at one point claiming that Jacob was harassing him, then Grace.  


This eventually culminated into Daniel throwing his dinner into a river because of his anger at Grace dating Jacob instead if him. This irrational behaviour sparked anger within the community, although Daniel continued, genuinly believing that Grace was, in fact, with Jacob, and not him.  
This eventually culminated into Daniel throwing his dinner into a river because of his anger at Grace dating Jacob instead if him. This irrational behavior sparked anger within the community, although Daniel continued, genuinely believing that Grace was, in fact, with Jacob, and not him.  


== Contact ==
== Contact ==
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=== Tina VanderWaal ===
=== Tina VanderWaal ===
Daniel's obsession eventually caused Tina Vanderwaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022. Although, it was not on the best of terms. Tina, through Messenger, demanded that Daniel stop making contact with her family, more specifically her daughter, and that all of Daniel's actions and feelings are in his own mind, calling out his obvious [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illnesses and delusions]]. Something to note is that she claimed to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refused to stop making videos and posts about Grace she would presumably make the issue a legal matter and possibly get Daniel arrested. This has still not happened and shows no sign of happening. Presumably, this was said in an attempt to get Daniel to stop. Following this, Daniel responds by stating that he understands but will be ending his life that night. He does not, most likely saying it as a way to guilt-trip her or gain attention.                 
Daniel's obsession eventually caused Tina VanderWaal, Grace's mother, to message him on July 25, 2022. Tina, through Facebook Messenger, demanded that Daniel stop making contact with her family, more specifically her daughter, and that all of Daniel's actions and feelings are in his own mind, calling out his [[Daniel Larson's health|mental illness and delusions.]] Something to note is that she claimed to be in contact with the police, and if Daniel refused to stop making videos and posts about Grace she would presumably make the issue a legal matter and possibly get Daniel arrested. This has still not happened and shows no sign of happening. Presumably, this was said in an attempt to get Daniel to stop. Following this, Daniel responds by stating that he understands but will be ending his life that night. He does not, most likely saying it as a way to guilt-trip her or gain attention.                 


<blockquote>'''<big>"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of [''sic''] you don't stop making disturbing videos. You [''sic''] followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "</big>'''  -'''<big>Tina VanderWaal confronting Daniel.</big>'''  </blockquote>This interaction with Grace's mother was the focus of multiple videos and community posts for quite some time after. Daniel posted multiple videos crying and/or hysterically apologizing to the VanderWaal family, continuously addressing the, 'allegations' against him, which fluctuated from admitting his misdeeds, to pretending that they had never happened at all and were just rumors.       
<blockquote>'''<big>"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of [''sic''] you don't stop making disturbing videos. You [''sic''] followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "</big>'''  -'''<big>Tina VanderWaal confronting Daniel.</big>'''  </blockquote>This interaction with Grace's mother was the focus of multiple videos and community posts for quite some time after. Daniel posted multiple videos crying and/or hysterically apologizing to the VanderWaal family, continuously addressing the, 'allegations' against him, which fluctuated from admitting his misdeeds, to pretending that they had never happened at all and were just rumors.       


In an act of what can only be described as pity, mixed with empathy, Tina made a comment on one of his live-streams, begging him to stop his obsessive posting about her and her family, once again.  
Tina made a comment on one of Daniel's live-streams, begging him to stop his obsessive posting about her and her family.  
<blockquote><big>'''"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone [who is] communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP." -Tina VanderWaal'''</big>   
<blockquote><big>'''"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone [who is] communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP." -Tina VanderWaal'''</big>   


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=== Grace Rape Troll ===
=== Grace Rape Troll ===
[[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]]
[[File:Grace Rape Troll Messages.jpg|thumb|Messages the troll sent to Daniel.]]
Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace Vanderwaal, the person behind this number has yet to be identified. In the texts that the fake Grace sent, they claimed that they were currently at the White House, and was being raped by her father, Dave VanderWaal, along with being gang banged and impregnated by a multitude of people. Daniel, believed this to be genuine. Trying to understand it all, Daniel attempted to convince 'Grace' to move out to Denver, where he was staying at the time, so that she could press charges on her father and live with him instead. What is important to note is that the messages start off with Daniel genuinely caring for 'Grace's' well being and asking what he can do to help. This did not last long however, as Daniel proceeded to ask 'Grace' what it felt like to be raped, and what she thought about during it, so Daniel could presumably get off to it, absolutely desperate to imagine what Grace performing intercourse, even if nonconsensual, would look like. He claimed to have asked these questions in order to use the information gathered by them in court.   
Sometime in late 2021, Daniel texted a number who claimed to be Grace Vanderwaal, the person behind this number has yet to be identified. In the texts that the fake Grace sent, they claimed that they were currently at the White House, and was being raped by her father, Dave VanderWaal, along with being gang banged and impregnated by multiple people. Daniel believed this to be genuine. Daniel attempted to convince 'Grace' to move out to Denver, where he was staying at the time, so that she could press charges on her father and live with him instead. What is important to note is that the messages start off with Daniel genuinely caring for 'Grace's' well being and asking what he can do to help. This did not last long however, as Daniel proceeded to ask 'Grace' what it felt like to be raped, and what she thought about during it, so Daniel could presumably get off to it, absolutely desperate to imagine Grace performing intercourse. He claimed to have asked these questions in order to use the information gathered by them in court.   


Additionally, whenever this fake Grace would talk about allegedly getting raped, they said that it was being recorded and uploaded to some type of social media or pornographic website. It is noteworthy that Daniel wished to know where he could find this footage.  
Additionally, whenever this fake Grace would talk about allegedly getting raped, they said that it was being recorded and uploaded to some type of social media or pornographic website. It is noteworthy that Daniel wished to know where he could find this footage.  


After this, Daniel went on to make multiple videos about this, claiming that he had called the police to deal with this matter, and considering his past actions, he most likely did call the authorities.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref> Additionally, he claimed that Grace said in their texts that the Secret Service was fully aware of her being raped in the White House and were doing absolutely nothing to help. Daniel also claimed that 'Grace' wanted to date him because of her supposed, but obviously untrue, desire to get away from her father. This situation ended with the fake Grace presumably stopping contact with Daniel once they had successfully trolled him.     
After this, Daniel went on to make multiple videos about this, claiming that he had called the police to deal with this matter, and considering his past actions, he likely did call the authorities.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/qfbeco/daniel_called_the_cops_on_the_white_house_theres/</ref> Additionally, he claimed that Grace said in their texts that the Secret Service was fully aware of her being raped in the White House and were doing absolutely nothing to help. Daniel also claimed that 'Grace' wanted to date him because of her supposed desire to get away from her father. This situation ended with the fake Grace stopping contact with Daniel once they had successfully trolled him.     


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[[File:TMZGRACE.png|thumb]]
[[File:TMZGRACE.png|thumb]]


While Daniel himself may not have had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News, as previously mentioned, allegedly reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him at any point in time.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace, of course, tells them that they she has never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to be in contact with him, emphatically stating her hatred for him and desire for him to keep her name out his mouth. <blockquote>
While Daniel himself has not had contact with Grace, on June 21, 2023, u/TMZ_News allegedly reached out to Grace to ask if she knew who Daniel was and if she had ever been in contact with him at any point in time.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/14esr38/my_conversation_with_grace/</ref> Grace tells them that they she has never been in contact with Daniel and never plans to be in contact with him, emphatically stating her hatred for him and desire for him to keep her name out his mouth. <blockquote>
<big>'''I know who he is, but I have never contacted him and don't have want anything to do with him. He's the worst thing that has ever happened to my career. Every time I search my name I see pictures of that dirty pedophile. My posts get spammed with comments about that freak Daniel. I hate him and I wish he would just stop talking about me. - Graces first message to TMZ_News'''</big></blockquote>
<big>'''I know who he is, but I have never contacted him and don't have want anything to do with him. He's the worst thing that has ever happened to my career. Every time I search my name I see pictures of that dirty pedophile. My posts get spammed with comments about that freak Daniel. I hate him and I wish he would just stop talking about me. - Graces first message to TMZ_News'''</big></blockquote>


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There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he won't change. Because of Daniel's delusions, he will likely go on thinking that Grace loves him and that everyone else is a liar. This response, if it is authentic, would only inspire him to keep trying as his efforts have proven successful in making her aware of him.   
There is a very high chance that even if Daniel sees these messages, he won't change. Because of Daniel's delusions, he will likely go on thinking that Grace loves him and that everyone else is a liar. This response, if authentic, would only inspire Daniel to keep trying as his efforts have proven successful in making her aware of him.   


It is highly likely that these messages are fake. This same user had already doctured Grace's Instagram in order to trick Daniel, thus any other media coming from U/TMZ_news should be taken with a grain of salt. Until more evidence comes out, it is safe to assume that the exchange pictured above is doctured. However, the point still stands that Grace and her family want nothing to do with Daniel now, or ever.   
It is likely that these messages are fake. This same user had already doctored Grace's Instagram in order to trick Daniel, thus any other media coming from U/TMZ_news should be taken with a grain of salt. Until more evidence comes out, it is safe to assume that the exchange pictured above is doctured. However, the point still stands that Grace and her family want nothing to do with Daniel now, or ever.   


== References ==
== References ==
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