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{{Contact|Elisabeth has effectively disowned Daniel, and harassing her for information about Daniel has proved unsuccessful. Even the most dedicated of trolls have stopped trying to contact her.}}{{Videos Need Archiving}}{{Quote|My son is my heart....I would sacrifice everything for him that is in my life..........I LOVE YOU MY BIG BOY...................|Elisabeth, about a young [[Daniel Larson|Daniel]].}} | |||
{{Infobox|image=ElisabethShimer.jpeg|imageDesc=Notice her distinct lack of eyebrows.|name=Elisabeth Shimer|Alignment=Daniel Larson’s mother}} | {{Infobox|image=ElisabethShimer.jpeg|imageDesc=Notice her distinct lack of eyebrows.|name=Elisabeth Shimer|Alignment=Daniel Larson’s mother|Nationality=American|Race=White|Parents=Nancy Shimer (1947– 2019), Daniel William Shimer (1943–2015)}} | ||
'''Elisabeth Lee Avey''' (formerly '''Shimer''') is the ex-lover of [[Travis Larson]], adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] the mother of [[Daniel Larson]], as well as his late siblings, Joyetta, and Olivia Larson. | '''Elisabeth Lee Avey''' (formerly '''Shimer''') is the ex-lover of [[Travis Larson]], adoptive daughter of [[Nancy Shimer]] the mother of [[Daniel Larson]], as well as his late siblings, Joyetta, and Olivia Larson. | ||
Though Daniel's father has remained a rather unpopular figure in the Daniel Larson community, the same cannot be said for Elisabeth, who has remained consistently disliked by | Though Daniel's father has remained a rather unpopular figure in the Daniel Larson community, the same cannot be said for Elisabeth, who has remained consistently disliked, even by Daniel, who has dubbed her an “idiot”. However, this should be taken with a grain of salt, as Daniel's definitive opinion on her is not clear, main due to his [[Daniel Larson's health|delusions]] and other factors in his life. | ||
Elisabeth is a very unknown character in the Daniel Larson story, and it is impossible to know whether anything she or Daniel says about her is true. Daniel has accused Elisabeth of being neglectful and abusive, which is somewhat substantiated due to the fact that Daniel was relocated and sent to the [[Tennyson Center]] during his childhood. Despite this fact, Elisabeth has, in turn, accused him and remained adamant that Daniel was the abusive one, hitting her and his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]]. Despite these constant accusations of abuse, Elisabeth’s behaviors seem to have rubbed off onto Daniel, as [[Discography|much like her son]], she too has an interest in music that most likely rubbed off onto Daniel during his childhood. | Elisabeth is a very unknown character in the Daniel Larson story, and it is impossible to know whether anything she or Daniel says about her is true. Daniel has accused Elisabeth of being neglectful and abusive, which is somewhat substantiated due to the fact that Daniel was relocated and sent to the [[Tennyson Center]] during his childhood. Despite this fact, Elisabeth has, in turn, accused him and remained adamant that Daniel was the abusive one, hitting her and his grandmother, [[Nancy Shimer]]. Despite these constant accusations of abuse, Elisabeth’s behaviors seem to have rubbed off onto Daniel, as [[Discography|much like her son]], she too has an interest in music that most likely rubbed off onto Daniel during his childhood. | ||
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On Elisabeth's Twitter account, she would frequently post about going to a music studio to work on her original songs, although these claims of having a music "career" and having "fans" are obviously untrue.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12isgoq/now_we_see_where_he_gets_his_musical_career_and/</ref> This most likely rubbed off on Daniel, which influenced him to want to start a career in music, although this has yet to be confirmed. | On Elisabeth's Twitter account, she would frequently post about going to a music studio to work on her original songs, although these claims of having a music "career" and having "fans" are obviously untrue.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/12isgoq/now_we_see_where_he_gets_his_musical_career_and/</ref> This most likely rubbed off on Daniel, which influenced him to want to start a career in music, although this has yet to be confirmed. | ||
== | === Later life, and poor health === | ||
Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, which caused her multiple health related issues. Lupus is an incurable genetic autoimmune disease that is found predominantly in women, where the body's immune system mistakenly attacks healthy tissue in many parts of the body, causing inflammation, joint damage, organ damage, and brain damage that can cause other disorders.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref> | Since Elisabeth was roughly 20 years old, she had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of lupus, which caused her multiple health related issues. Lupus is an incurable genetic autoimmune disease that is found predominantly in women, where the body's immune system mistakenly attacks healthy tissue in many parts of the body, causing inflammation, joint damage, organ damage, and brain damage that can cause other disorders.<ref>[https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain. https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/lupus#:~:text=Lupus%20occurs%20when%20the%20immune,circulating%20blood%20cells%2C%20and%20brain.]</ref> | ||
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== Relationships == | == Relationships == | ||
{{Stub}} | {{Stub}} | ||
=== Travis === | |||
=== Nancy === | |||
=== Daniel === | |||
==Elisabeth on Daniel== | ==Elisabeth on Daniel== | ||
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In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities (beyond autism, including schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them. What is interesting to note is that Elisabeth speaks of Daniel going to jail following him physically assaulting both her and his grandmother. | In the comments, Elisabeth would go into further detail on a number of topics relating to Daniel, including Daniel's various disabilities (beyond autism, including schizophrenia and bipolar disorder), his history of physical violence against both her and [[Nancy Shimer]], the interpersonal relationship between the three of them. What is interesting to note is that Elisabeth speaks of Daniel going to jail following him physically assaulting both her and his grandmother. | ||
However, it should be noted at this point that the relationship between Daniel and his mother is very strained. It is therefore questionable whether one can believe her comments. | |||
[[File:Elisabeth Final Comment.png|thumb|345x345px|Elisabeth elaborating on her relationship with Nancy.]] | |||
Following this comment, Elisabeth made her third, and last comment on Papa Guts video, where she elaborated on her relationship with her mother, Nancy Shimer, where she claimed that Nancy had not liked her moving away, which resulted in Nancy spreading lies about Elisabeth. Additionally, Elisabeth reaffirms the claims about Daniel's mental health issues. | However, it should be noted at this point that the relationship between Daniel and his mother is very strained. It is therefore questionable whether one can believe her comments. | ||
{{Quote|I'm Danny's mom and yes we have moved here for the services. He doesn't just have autism he has severe bi polar and shizophrenic. He has beaten me and my mom... he has lied and has fantasies about so many things. He does not want to listen to authority...he is not famous but wants to beleive he is.he does what he wants and if you dont let him he gets violent..if you want more information contact me|Elisabeth, in Papa Guts comment section.}}[[File:Elisabeth Final Comment.png|thumb|345x345px|Elisabeth elaborating on her relationship with Nancy.]] | |||
Following this comment, Elisabeth made her third, and last comment on Papa Guts video, where she elaborated on her relationship with her mother, Nancy Shimer, where she claimed that Nancy had not liked her moving away, which resulted in Nancy spreading lies about Elisabeth. Additionally, Elisabeth reaffirms the claims about Daniel's mental health issues. | |||
{{Quote|This was all a lie ...she just didn't like me moving away so she spread lies. And yes she did pass away in 2018.I love my son but he does have many mental issues and can be very violent at times ...he beat me and my mother before she died and had beaten her for 10 years straight...after she got custody of him...yes he should have stayed there. My mom let him get away with everything and gave him everything that's why he is the way he is... I wouldn't put up with his behavior}} | |||
Although it is uncertain if Elisabeth can be trusted as a reliable narrator due to her tumultuous history with Daniel, the YouTube account which posted the comments has been verified as belonging to her.[[File:Shakybby.jpg|thumb|Example of a troll pretending to be his mother|left|432x432px]] | |||
== Other Social Media Accounts == | == Other Social Media Accounts == | ||
While there are various social media accounts that can be verifiably identified as Elisabeth, there are also several TikTok and social media accounts with her name, but none of them have been verified, as most are run by people using her photos to impersonate her. Most of them re-upload videos from her YouTube channel to try and add validity, but some have caught the communities attention by leaving comments on Daniel's videos. But what is important to note is that '''none of these accounts are real''', as most of them have been created very recently and have no information to prove that they are the real, authentic Elisabeth. | While there are various social media accounts that can be verifiably identified as Elisabeth, there are also several TikTok and social media accounts with her name, but none of them have been verified, as most are run by people using her photos to impersonate her. Most of them re-upload videos from her YouTube channel to try and add validity, but some have caught the communities attention by leaving comments on Daniel's videos. But what is important to note is that '''none of these accounts are real''', as most of them have been created very recently and have no information to prove that they are the real, authentic Elisabeth. | ||