November 19th Jail Call (Lil Sippy)
Daniel called Lil Sippy on November 19, 2024 and explained his situation and his tensions with Clark.[1]
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Lil Sippy: Oh, ok cool. Daniel: I got it like- got it like, early early last week. Lil Sippy: Alright, nice! Daniel: But yeah, but anyways um, yeah. I would like the book that is the $16-ish dollar one. The first one. Lil Sippy: OK, cool. Daniel: Um, I don’t know if it- is it the lyric book or the full songbook? Lil Sippy: I think it’s a book on how to play the song on piano, and- well, I think one of them’s piano and the other is *burp * ukulele. Daniel: OK, then yeah. Um, I want the one that’s the ukulele. Lil Sippy: OK, cool. Hopefully they still have that in stock. Um… Daniel: *chuckles * I’m so sorry. I- so, you know what I mean. Bob, well not Bob, but Griffin and you are targeting each other, *laughs *and you know what I mean by that, right? You’re- he’s saying bad things about you, you’re saying bad things about him, and I’m to a point where it’s like, I really don’t know which- what is which, so I’ve decided I’m just gonna kind of leave that alone and kind of just leave it. Lil Sippy: Yeah, I just- I’m just trying to do what’s in your best interest and help you out. I do have some news about Grace though. She was spotted in uh, Florida with a- uh, have you heard of the uh, dubstep artist, uh, Ava Braun? She’s from Berlin, Germany. Daniel: Um, the dubstep artist, uh, who? Ava… Lil Sippy: Ava Braun. Daniel: Ava bronze, she was spotted with in Florida? Lil Sippy: Yeah, and Ava Braun was wearing a “Free Daniel Larson” shirt. Daniel: And, and… OK, and so Ava bronze, right, was wearing a “Free Daniel Larson” shirt and it’s posted. Lil Sippy: And she- yeah, and she was hanging out with Grace VanderWaal. They were both at the beach together, I think it was yesterday or the day before in TMZ. Daniel: And they were at the beach and they were hanging- OK, my lawyer, my f-, excuse my language, but my fucking public defender, *laughs * I hate to cuss him out, but he is not talking to me about what’s going on with my mother after I’ve repeatedly asked him like, what’s going on? Nobody other than you has talked to me about what’s going on with my mother. Lil Sippy: Yeah, it was weird, I was trying to find, ‘cause people were saying “oh, she’s” Daniel: It’s- yeah, well Donna, first of all, is my mother’s sister. She always talked about her. So I’m like, you know that Donna- Lil Sippy: You know Donna? Daniel: I know her, yeah. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: I know her personally, I’ve met her in person. It was like, over 5-10 years ago before I- before my grandmother passed in uh, 2018, 2019, somewhere in there. But um, I uh- I just haven’t even heard from my mother since, really. And Bob was stopping me from talking to him- talking to my mother, so that is another problem. Lil Sippy: That’s weird. Daniel: Um, I’ve asked Bob for her numerous of times, he’s refused and I said, “do you know what’s going on with my mother?” and he’s like, “no” and he said that somebody keeps reaching out to him claiming to be mother, this was in 2023 and he told me that he was- he is refusing to talk to her because he can’t confirm if it’s her or not. Lil Sippy: Yeah, it’s just weird to me that the only evidence of her being dead is the Facebook posts. There’s no obituaries, you know, normally when someone dies… Daniel: And… there’s no way- right. It would be like, updated somewhere so I wonder if like- she just disappeared or what? Like it’s creepy. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Do you s- Daniel: Nobody knows what has happened to her, and not only that, um, so Griffin yesterday, right, told me that he was in Florida as well, but no joke. He told me he was in Florida as well. So, if Grace was spotted in Florida as well, that makes sense. That is- Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Lil Sippy: Do you still think that he is Jacob Sartorius or that he is trying to steal Grace from you? Daniel: Possibly I- I’m to a point, well another is Griffin did tell me that I could believe he’s against me, it doesn’t bother him. Lil Sippy: Well, he might be. Daniel: Like, I’ve called him out numerous of times, he said that like, he says I can believe what I believe, and yeah I hate to say it, but I believe he is still not telling the full truth, he’s either Jakob VanderWaal, Grace’s brother, or he is um, Jacob Sartorius because that would only make sense, and I do believe that yes, there’s evidence that Grace might be coming to see me very soon about the relationship and stuff. Griffin, last I talked to him, he was saying that he wants me out by the 25th of this month. Well, um, I don’t know if that’s going to happen or what, so my anxiety is going skyrocketing through the roof because of it. Lil Sippy: And you haven’t been- you’ve been trying to call your lawyer and he isn’t answering at all? Daniel: And I’ve tr- well I’m being told by the jail I can’t. They’re refusing to even contact him for a actual meeting for a sit-down meeting or anything, they're just straight-up refusing to even talk to him to even schedule it. Lil Sippy: Well, I think you should probably- it’s probably about time to sue the jail if they’re denying you access to your lawyer. Daniel: Right, and I agree. And I have the suing paperwork, um, I just don’t- I don’t know how to fill it out because I’m not a lawyer. That’s the only problem. Lil Sippy: You don’t think somebody else on the pod might know how and could help you fill it out? Daniel: Possibly. I would have to go around and ask, and I don’t know if anybody would know how to. Um, but yeah I did actually get two stamps, so I could mail it out anytime starting today. I could mail out the paper. Um, also, um, I- so I got my minutes for the phone renewal today, so I can call whenever we need. Lil Sippy: Good. Daniel: Um, if there’s an emergency or whatever, I have phone access. Um, the, I guess- so the last thing I’ve talked to Griffin, right, the very last thing I said to him was, so we know I’m innocent, we know because the VanderWaals are witnesses, everything. I asked him if he knew if Grace is even working on getting the apartment in Colorado. He told me that Tina is kind of being a problem right now, the courts are not cooperating with the VanderWaals, and there’s- Tina’s concerned about legal obligations moving forward. Well, and then- Lil Sippy: From… from… Daniel: Hold on, one second. Then Griffin said as well in that same phone call that he wants to try to get me out by the 25th. I’m to a point to where all I know is that on the 25th, something could happen. I don't know what it is, um it’s weird. But I believe something is gonna happen around the 25th. Lil Sippy: Well, from what I heard, Grace wants you out but Tina and the court system are not cooperating with her. Daniel: Well, it’s- that’s probably because Tina is not cooperating. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: Um, that’s probably the issue is if Tina would just come forward at this point and agree like, we made a mistake, you know this guy was homeless and he was being told lies, you know? Then I’m pretty sure the courts are gonna be a lot more lenient. Lil Sippy: I don’t- it’s- Daniel: Um, I just don’t know the full truth- Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Daniel: I don’t know the truth, and I’m surprised, like Grace isn’t just… you know, trying to get a hold of me at this point. If she’s wearing “Free Daniel Larson” shirts and everybody is in contact with her wearing those and all this crazy stuff going on, I don’t know why she just doesn’t, you know, she’s not a minor so she can be her own legal guardian, she should be. She should just 100% be herself and just call me or try to get a hold of me. I don’t know, but it’s weird and it- things are not looking good. It looks like I’m expected to be transferred sometime in December to Springfield if I don’t hear back from Tina, and it’s not looking good right now. Lil Sippy: Well, the 25th is less than a week away, and then we’ll see if Griffin is lying to you or not when the 25th comes around, but I’m sure the VanderWaals have a lot to do with your case, but I think the government is, well if you take a step back and look at it, you were doing so good, you were about to sign a several million dollar record deal, people were saying you should run for president when you’re old enough, you were so successful and then I think the government just said, this guy is too successful, we need to, you know, cut him down enough. Yeah Daniel: No, I agree. I agree, I think I was becoming way too successful too fast and just like, Trump, pretty much where they just are like, nope, we don’t want this guy, he’s gaining too much power too quickly, and the government just tries to screw things up and that’s exactly what happened. There’s nothing on my end that says that I should still be in custody, and even my legal paperwork in my legal discovery, it says, um, the legal presumption of the- on my indictment, it says the legal presumption of detention is NOT, and NOT is highlighted, NOT applicable to this defendant, meaning I should have never, and they still went ahead and held me. Lil Sippy: But they still… yeah. You should at least get a bond so we could bond you out, but they won’t even give you bond! Daniel: I don’t think they’re gonna do a bond, and if they do a bond, I’m pretty sure they’re gonna try to take all of my record label money and keep me homeless. Lil Sippy: Yeah. I don’t know. It’s a big- it’s very confusing. I think the main thing we should focus on right now is the relationship with Grace and making sure that nobody messes up your relationship with Grace. Daniel: That’s what needs to happen, yeah. Another thing is Griffin keeps saying that he’s gonna come visit me and that Grace is coming too. Lil Sippy: I know, he lives in St. Louis, so that’s pretty far. Daniel: Yeah, well St. Louis is the same state of Missouri which is scary too, because he’s like, “I’m gonna come visit you when you’re in Springfield”, and I’ve been told by several people that not to trust him, including Bob. But the thing is, if he’s in contact with Tina, you see what mean? And he’s trying to help out, or helping out with whatever. I don’t wanna lose that contact because he’s helping. I’m in a rock and a hard place. Lil Sippy: Definitely. I think- uh, I don’t know. Are you gonna allow him to visit you in Springfield, he might have something up his sleeve. Daniel: I- to be honest, I don’t trust him. I don’t trust him with that. I trust Grace, and I trust, um, I trust Bob and maybe Tina. Lil Sippy: Yeah, tell them to have Grace visit you. Daniel: But I’m to a point I’m losing trust in just, the entire legal system at this point on top of some family. Lil Sippy: Yeah, I would just tell Griffin, have Grace visit you alone instead of him and Grace, just send Grace. Daniel: Yeah, but anyways I gotta- I gotta go, OK? The phone’s about to cut out, I’m gonna try to get a hold of him next and see what’s going on, OK? Lil Sippy: OK, give me- keep me updated. Have a good night. Daniel: Alright. Alright, bye. Lil Sippy: Bye.
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