October 8th Jail Calls
On October 8, 2024, Daniel called now-acquainted Lil Sippy twice. Lil Sippy uploaded both calls the next day.
The first call is most notable for Daniel claiming to have been in contact with Chief Keef and Lil Durk.
The second call features Lil Sippy showing Daniel the recording of the detective reading his search history, leaking some alarming searches. Daniel also explains meeting someone claiming to be Jakob VanderWaal, his concerns about Clark, and supposed music theft by World of T-Shirts.
First Call
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Automated voice: This call will be recorded and subject to monitoring at any time. To accept this call, press 5. To block this call and all future calls, press 7. To reject- *Lil Sippy presses 5* You may begin speaking now. Lil Sippy: Hello! Daniel: Uh, hello? Lil Sippy: What's going on? [echo can be heard on Daniel's end] Daniel: Hey, so what did you find out? Lil Sippy: Find out about what? Daniel: Um, your email that you sent me this morning told me to call back, and um- that you found out new information. Lil Sippy: About Grace? Daniel: Yes. Lil Sippy: That was- that wasn't this morning, that was the old email from yesterday morning, but I don't- Daniel: Oh, OK. Lil Sippy: I don't have new information on Grace, but I do have information that um, so basically, these- you know, you know that um, your music has been all over the radio, right? Daniel: I did not know that it's all over the radio, no. Lil Sippy: They've been play- it's not just the US, I guess they've been playing it even in, uh- like China and places like that. Um, but especially the one song, what's it, Roaring Thunder? Daniel: Yeah, yeah. I- I know. Lil Sippy: It's all over the radio, it's all in the clubs and stuff, uh, and basically these- I don't why, but I'm getting a lot of uh, feedback. It's- my voice is echoing on the phone for some reason, but... um, I don't know if you've ever heard of them, but there's these very famous rappers *coughs* called uh, Chief Keef and Lil Durk, and they just went on the Joe Rogan podcast, and they said- they basically said how much they want to, uh, collab with you... Daniel: Oh, wow! Yeah, Lil Durk? Both went on a broadcast wanting a collaboration? Lil Sippy: They wanna do uh, a collaboration, like an EP... Chief Keef and- yeah, have you ever heard of them? Daniel: Yeah, I have. Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: I've actually- I used to have contact with him. Lil Sippy: Really? Daniel: So, that confirms things even more. That's crazy. Lil Sippy: Well they said, they basically went on Joe Rogan, they said they wanna help you. Ever since King Von died, um, O'Block has been so poor and they want to collab with you to help save O'Block and at the same time, you know, Chief Keef is connected with Donald Trump. Chief Keef performs at Trump rallies, I don't why, I guess to try the younger vote. Daniel: Yeah, that explains the Donald Trump situation, because Keef Chief, you're right, he performs at the Donald Trump rallies. Lil Sippy: Yeah, so basically on the podcast, like they were saying that, um, they want to collab with you. They want to hop on a remix of Roaring Thunder, and they also want to do a collab album, but they can't get in contact with you to get the permission to do the remix and to get you on the collab album, and they- Daniel: Because I'm in, I'm in jail. *chuckles* Lil Sippy: Yeah, but I would think they would be able to get in contact with a manager or something, what label are you signed to? Daniel: I- so right now, I was supposed to be signed with Columbia Records, but I'm in here on threats, and I also made threats towards their record label. *sighs* Uh.. Lil Sippy: So they dropped you as a client? Daniel: Yeah, because I never actually signed a contract. Grace was signing, I guess, the contract on my behalf because I asked her to, but I didn't know if it was actually done yet or not, because I was told by Grace I didn't need to sign a contract since I was dating her. It's automatic. Lil Sippy: But has- has Grace been in contact with Chief Keef and Lil Durk? Daniel: I... I don't know. Since I've been arrested, I have not heard any information and my lawyer, like I said yesterday, has even told me that I'm not in contact rith (with) Grace, I'm not dating her. My lawyer's trying to turn me AGAINST what isn't going on, so I don't know. I didn't- I knew that my song Roaring Thunder was on the radio because I heard it one time on a Denver radio station, 101.1, which is like- (gets cut off) Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Daniel: It's an iHeartRadio variety station, I've heard it one time this year on there, and I also heard Grace on there, um, doing I guess something where she was talking about a collaboration. Lil Sippy: OK, but you haven't talked to Grace since you've been in uh, been locked up this time? Daniel: I have not spoken to Grace in... probably around a year, maybe more? I- I'm not sure, I'm still trying to get confirmation on who was who. Lil Sippy: Do you think she's kinda over you at this point, or what do you think's going on? Daniel: I- I don't know what's going on with my lawyer. Um, last I heard is he... Lil Sippy: I'm talking about Grace. Is Grace still in love with you? Daniel: Yeah! Yeah, so Grace was, um... back when I was in contact with her mother... Tina, Grace's mother, told me to stop contact with her daughter, and I said, do you realize that, um, Grace has been in contact with me all along? And Tina said, OK, well Grace is with me right now, let me check. So she checked with Grace and found out that it was actually true and then at that time, I've been in contact with Tina on and off ever since... until I got arrested. Lil Sippy: Yeah they- Yeah they've been really putting uh, Grace's name through the dirt for... *coughs* I guess, 'cause they're jealous, they're- I think they're mad that you're famous and that Grace is in love with you and that they're not famous and they don't get any girls, but they've been really trying to make up bad rumors about Grace saying she's a white supremacist, and just crazy stuff, and it's all- Daniel: *interrupting* Yeah, I know, I've heard a lot as well about like, other controversy going around that, but it's confirmed it's not true, so. Lil Sippy: OK. Daniel: But anyways, um, I appreciate you letting me know that. Do you what time, or like, estimated, like what month it says I'm supposed to get transferred to... Lil Sippy: Yeah, December. Daniel: It says November? Lil Sippy: No, December. Daniel: December, so Lil Sippy: That's what- that's just the estimate, that's what the, um, what's it called? Like, the stuff that the, the documents the prosecution. So like, I guess the psych ward part of MCFP Springfield, *coughs* um, like, they only have a limited, finite uh, amount of beds for, so- and I guess they're full right now, and basically like, based on how many people are leaving right now, um, they estimate that like... You're on the waitlist, and they estimate that um, like your spot in the waitlist will, to be transferred will be in December, but it could be earlier, could be later, just depending on how many people get transferred out of Springfield's psych ward. It's actually like a prison, but- but it's a psych ward within a prison. Um... so, it could be earlier, it could be later, but the- the estimate that the prosecution gave was December. Daniel: Right, OK. And, another thing is, so my lawyer, my public defender told me that I don't have to necessarily get on medication. If I don't want to, there's like other resources and classes I will take that will count towards my court. But... Lil Sippy: But yeah, that's probably true, but don't you- if you get on medication, it would probably look better for you to be found competent. Daniel: Right, I was on actually on medication, on and off when I was making a lot of the, a lot of the threats. So that was not like, the medication I was on is a big factor on why I made the threats, because it didn't... Lil Sippy: *interrupts* So do you think... do you think that it's uhh, you were just on the wrong meds? Are you open to taking different meds? Daniel: I don't think it was on the wrong meds, I think that, um... I think that like, there's certain medication where it's like, it tries to slow down my mind racing, the issue is if my mind slows down too much, then I just can't think at all, I can't even perform because I can't think. And then there's other medications where it's like a mood stablilizer, but the thing is, if I can't feel my feelings, you see what I mean? Then... Lil Sippy: Yeah. Daniel: I'm not happy. Lil Sippy: What about- what about any- have they put you on any anti-psychotics? Daniel: No, they haevn't, and um, I don't even know if my medication or my health will even work with those, because I've never been asked anything about it. Like, I've been, going to psychiatry at the... Lil Sippy: OK, you might want to talk to them about, um, anti-psychotic medications. That might be able to- that might be a better fit than the mood stabilizers. Daniel: OK. Alright, and then, also... I guess my lawyer, my public defender, nobody is telling me why I am getting transferred, like as far as the psych eval, I knew that. But like, as far as what's going to make me competent, nobody is telling me and like I said, nobody's talking with me about my case. [Call lasts for another few minutes, mostly Daniel reiterating about Grace] |
Second Call
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Automated voice: You may begin speaking now. Lil Sippy: Hey Daniel! Daniel: Hey, I got new information from uh, Griffin- Clark. Lil Sippy: OK, what was that? Daniel: So apparently, the, so there was a time where I met up with somebody who was in contact with him. When I met up with the guy in downtown Denver, who was staying at the Brown Palace, he accidentally told me that his name was Jakob VanderWaal, Grace's brother, and then immediately he said oops, and then told me some random name. Lil Sippy: So was he Grace's brother? Daniel: Yeah, somebody met up with me in downtown Denver back in 2023 claiming to be Grace's brother. Lil Sippy: And they- Daniel: But then told- then- all of a sudden told me that it wasn't like, oops, at- like, pretty much said the word 'oops' as if he forgot like that he shouldn't tell me. Lil Sippy: So he was the real, um... Daniel: I believe he was the real Jakob VanderWaal, but was told not to say it and he accidentally did. Lil Sippy: But was he spying on you or something? Daniel: He might've been spying. Lil Sippy: Oh my god... Daniel: And not only that, I still don't have any information from Clark or Griffin on the actual relationship, but I exposed him for, well I think I exposed him for hanging up calls on me, and um, whenever I say something that is true, he goes- he either hangs up on me or he doesn't answer the next day or tells me, hey I'm busy, I need you to call back the next day. Lil Sippy: You said Clark does? Daniel: Clark does. So it seems like he's doing things behind the scenes. Lil Sippy: Yeah, he's- I wouldn't trust Clark. But, um, there's been a new video that I don't think is real it might be real, I don't think it is. But they basically said that someone suck into one of your court dates and recorded, uh, I guess someone was reading your search history off- they say it's your search history and it's got over 60 million views on TikTok. Uh, do you wanna hear it? Daniel: Yeah, no. I've actually - so I am aware that people have been sneaking into court, I am more than aware of it. Lil Sippy: But they said that... just let me show you, let me- let me have you listen to it, they say that this- that this is the detective reading off your search history. Detective (from recording): So there's, um... "fucking Puerto Rican", there is (very disturbing searches)... HIV positive... choking... going onto page 5... Daniel: OK... can you hear me??? Daniel: Yeeha, is that real or... Daniel: I- so I do have insider information that is also pretty sketchy, I was supposed to have court two different times and both times I was told it got cancelled after I was already taken out. And my lawyer- Lil Sippy: So do you think they've been having court without you? Daniel: I believe they might have been having court without me, none of that is true and I don't know why they're saying that. I think my- I think... Lil Sippy: Huh. Do you think's actually- do you think that's actually from a court date of yours or is that just fake? Daniel: I- I don't know, but I do recognize the voice being... Lil Sippy: Do you wanna hear the rest of it? Daniel: I don't- I don't know, but if- Automated voice: This call is from a federal prison. Daniel: It might be real, because I do know that one of the judges sounded similar, so I don't know but I do know that the actual court itself was leaked. Lil Sippy: OK. {{red|Daniel: But what I can say is like, people are like, hacking my email. I believe Daniel MacDougall was trying to get actual access to my email, and was trying to like, stop my relationship. I believe people are trying to stop my relationship with Grace, and people are, people are trying to hack account to do so. Lil Sippy: *overtalking* I think they- I think um, what's the dude's name? He goes by World of T-Shirts, isn't his name like Joshua or something? Daniel: Yes, and also I've heard things before I got arrested from him, saying that he was going to... do- I don't know, but what he said was that he was going to try to mess things up. Lil Sippy: I think he's, um, I think he's trying to do something to basically steal your music, well it's obviously trying to steal your music, but I think he's trying to steal Grace through stealing your music. He just dropped this song and it sounds exactly like Roaring Thunder, I mean the cadence is exactly the same, you line them up on a DAW, they- you know, the cadence is, it's uncanny. Daniel: Holy crap! So you're saying somebody might be impersonating me. No, that's right. No. Lil Sippy: He's- he's not even impersonating you, he's taking your song and trying to take it as his own, and people have been accusing of that and he went on the No Jumper podcast with Adam22, and Adam22 brought up the allegations, and World of T-Shirts said he never even knew you! He's like, I haven't heard of Daniel Larson! Daniel: Holy... what the fuck? That's *unintelligible* Lil Sippy: But- but everyone knows that in the old deleted videos that you and him even met! Daniel: I was with him, yes! Lil Sippy: So... Daniel: What the fuck?! Lil Sippy: He's like, Daniel Larson, the name sounds familiar, I might have heard of him, but... Daniel: No, this explains everything. Like, I'm a victim of everything! I shouldn't even be in custody altogether! No wonder my mental health was affected, because I knew something was up when it came to my music stuff. Lil Sippy: It's crazy. *coughs* Daniel: But, also what I needed to let you know is apparently, Clark aka Griffin said he was going to meet up with me when I get to Missouri because he lives two hours away. You know him? Lil Sippy: Where does he live? Daniel: I- apparently Missouri. Lil Sippy: Oh, OK. Daniel: And- and so if I go to Missouri, and I meet up with him, I don't know if that's a threat in a way, or not. But he's- he says that he's going to meet up with me. Lil Sippy: Why would he be threatening you? Daniel: Like I said, I don't know if it is or not. But like I said, I know that like, he said he's going to meet up with me. Lil Sippy: Well, don't you think he's meaning he might try to get on your visiting list? Daniel: That's what he's trying to do. Lil Sippy: So why would that be a threat though? Daniel: Because I like, I don't know if he's trustable or not, like, he's clearly, clearly *unintelligible* story. Lil Sippy: *overtalking* I mean, I don't think Clark is trustable. Didn't he trick you into thinking you were going to college? Daniel: Yes. Lil Sippy: So, I wouldn't trust somebody like that. Daniel: And now he's saying that the VanderWaals are fake, but yet everything he's saying is right with my legal discovery. So, there's- weird things going on. Lil Sippy: I thought you said- I thought you said that your legal discovery bro, I thought you said your legal discovery confirmed that you were in contract with the VanderWaals, and it was all real! Daniel: Yes, and Clark got me in contact. Clark aka Griffin got me in contact with the VanderWaals. Lil Sippy: OK. Daniel: That's how it all started. Lil Sippy: Mkay. Well, just try to keep yourself calm. How have- how have you been getting along with the other guys on the tier? Daniel: I've been doing fairly good. Um, I mean, I'm just super concerned about what's going on with my lawyer because, if I got arrest- well, if- if I got attacked or something, because he hasn't gotten back to me in months, it's more of like, I don't know if he would even care if I got, you know, assaulted or something, if he would even get notified. It's just a safety concern towards me. Lil Sippy: You said that, um... they're not- but I thought you said that they're not even letting you call him. Daniel: They're not even letting me, exactly. I actually talked to the case manager here at the jail who's the person supposed to be scheduling, and he moved the date out. I cannot call for more than two weeks now, because he's going on vacation. Lil Sippy: So there's only special days that you can contact him? Daniel: Yeah. Anyways, I gotta go, they're locking me down for the night. Lil Sippy: Alright, have a good night. Um, you gonna call tomorrow? Daniel: Um, but this is crazy information that you're giving me. I recognize the voice from being the court. Lil Sippy: OK, you gonna call tomorrow? Daniel: I'm gonna try to call tomorrow. Lil Sippy: Alright, have a good night, bro. Daniel: Alright, bye. |